Fox News still trafficking in birth certificate theories
SUMMARY: A Fox Nation headline advanced the falsehood that President Obama has not released a copy of his birth certificate.
A May 28 headline on The Fox Nation -- Fox News' purportedly bias-free website -- asked: "Should Obama Release Birth Certificate? Or Is This Old News?" But contrary to The Fox Nation's question, the Obama campaign released a copy of President Obama's birth certificate, posting it on the campaign's Fight the Smears website. It also reportedly provided the original document to FactCheck.org, whose staff concluded in an August 21, 2008, post that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship." The Hawaii Department of Health also repeatedly confirmed that the birth certificate on record with the state is valid and proves that he was born in the state of Hawaii.
From The Fox Nation:
The Fox Nation's birth certificate headline linked to a video of WorldNetDaily correspondent Les Kinsolving asking White House press secretary Robert Gibbs to "releas[e] a certified copy of his long-form birth certificate." In the video, Gibbs notes that Obama's birth certificate is available for anyone to view and that "this question in many ways continues to astound me." From the White House press briefing:
KINSOLVING: One question concerning what the president said in his speech on Thursday.
Quote, "I ran for president promising transparency, and I meant what I said. This is why whenever possible, we will make information available to the American people so they can make informed judgments and hold us accountable," end of quote.
Do you remember that statement?
GIBBS: I can confirm that he said that.
KINSOLVING: Good. In consideration -- in consideration of this very good promise of transparency, why can't the president respond to the petitioned request of 400,000 American citizens by releasing a certified copy of his long-form birth certificate, listing hospital, physician [inaudible] -- 400,000 --
GIBBS: You're looking for the president's birth certificate?
KINSOLVING: Yeah.
GIBBS: It's on the Internet, Lester.
KINSOLVING: No, no, no -- the long-form, listing his hospital and physician.
GIBBS: Lester, this question in many ways continues to astound me.
The state of Hawaii provided a copy, with a seal, of the president's birth. I know there are apparently at least 400,000 people that continue to doubt the existence of and the certification by the state of Hawaii of the president's birth there.
But it's on the Internet, because we put it on the Internet, for each of those 400,000 to download. I certainly hope, by the fourth year of our administration, that we'll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy.
Thanks, guys.
During the 2008 campaign, Fox News hosted WND staff writer Jerome Corsi, who claimed that the Obama campaign "has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website."
As Media Matters for America has documented, The Fox Nation previously advanced a dubious WND report that "Obama actually delayed [the] pirate rescue" of Capt. Richard Phillips from Somali pirates. WND has a history of advancing baseless smears and conspiracy theories about Obama, such as false theories about his birth certificate and the discredited account of a man who claimed he "took drugs [and] had homo sex with Obama."
Speaking of transparency, when is Fox *news* going to out itself for what it really is- a Big Freaking Joke?
But it would be a bad thing for Africa.
It's also likely that if you're talking about the possibility that someone was born in one of their parent's home countries that there's going to be another race involved. Unless the country in question is Canada, Russia, or one of several European countries, you can be fairly sure that there's going to be another skin color involved in that story. So to some degree, the aspects of race and location of birth are naturally connected.
NEWS FLASH!: It ain't gonna work! The usurper and traitor will be exposed!
You should visit some of the rightwing sites. They are downright frightening with their sheer idiocy. Conspiracy, conspiracy, racism, not so veiled threats (next time Obama is in your town, "exercise" your 2nd Amendment rights type of lunacy) etc.
So the nonsense by prsmith is actually lightweight by comparison.
Okay, not really.
Obama hasn't fought for a single minute on a single birth certificate case. His lawyers haven't paid a penny on it anywhere. A right wing website simply invented a dollar figure that he paid for legal fees. Then as other right-wingers cited it, they kept upping the number. Soon zero became millions, and every drop of it was completely unsourced.
It's how conservatives see truth.
Go on, get back down there into the basement. Time for your nap, crawl back into your cot, the adults are in charge. Nighty-night.
Pleaseeeeee do us all a favor......take you freaking medication NOW!!!!!!
Actually, pr, I think Obama should produce the so-called doctor who delivered him. And if it turns out the doctor is dead then that's just proof of how far this vast conspiracy is willing to go.
At the very least, Obama needs to produce his birth placenta for examination. What, he doesn't have his placenta? That's so typical of usurpers and traitors.
Keep up the good work, pr. America needs more people like you to keep the rest of us amused.
So, if anyone buys into the fake birth certificate theory, he or she also has to accept the notion that Mr. and Mrs. Obama, knowing that there'd be a need for it forty or fifty years into the future, had the foresight to create a fake newspaper announcement. To me a conspiracy that convoluted seems implausible.
That's something I've asked about before as well. It makes virtually no difference whether you're born out of the country or in the country. He would still be an American citizen. The only thing it would affect is his eligibility for the Presidency. And race relations weren't in the same place as they are today. Given the time period, it makes it even more bizarre to think that there was some attempt to make it seem like he was born in Hawaii when he really wasn't, because it would be hardly conceivable that a black man would be electable within his lifetime. Nobody could possibly imagine that the effort was worth the trouble.
You just gave Ol' Fathead a new talking point.
Like it or not, they're our kids, and we have to take care of them. But people who deal with modern conservatives on a daily basis and who try to be patient with them are blessed. They have the patience of Job and the internal fortitude of Jonah.
I believe there are still real, decent Conservatives. The current day Republicans have hijacked the term conservative, just like they succeeded in making liberal a dirty word.
They played on message and not on substance.
However, the public now, mostly, sees it and that is why you have liberals winning in elections and real conservatives distancing themselves from Republican party.
This phenomenon, though anecdotal, is apparent even on this web site. There used to be Tommys, Jeters and a few more whose ids I do not remember. They would WITH everything and most times would not retract, but you could see that they saw the other side.
These days, all we are left with is people who agree with each other and posters who just hurl insults at the President and disappear.
Everyone knows FactCheck.org is liberal front group. Liberals are always using facts in nefarious ways to tear down America.
Fox employees around and demand and answer to the question of why FOX continues its Libelous ways.
Jim Suiter
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser
Also, one does not need two natural-born parents to be a citizen.
Please know what you are talking about before you start spouting nonsense here.
Whaaat? Do you know what you're talking about?