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LA Times ignores Obama adviser's explanation for initial unemployment projection

June 09, 2009 2:11 pm ET
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SUMMARY: The LA Times reported that Obama advisers had predicted "that with the stimulus spending, the U.S. unemployment rate this year would not exceed 8%. It now stands at 9.4%." But the Times did not note an adviser's explanation for the initial projection.

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In a June 9 article, the Los Angeles Times reported that "an early target" of gauging the impact of the stimulus has been "missed," adding that the current unemployment "figure is higher than [economic advisers] Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein had said it would be even if the stimulus package had not been adopted." As the Times reported, in a January 9 report, Romer and Bernstein had predicted "that with the stimulus spending, the U.S. unemployment rate this year would not exceed 8%. It now stands at 9.4%." However, at no point did the article report that during a June 8 press briefing, Bernstein responded to a question about the initial projection by saying: "[W]hen we made our initial estimates, that was before we had fourth-quarter results on GDP, which we later found out was contracting on an annual rate of 6 percent, far worse than we expected at that time."

Moreover, the Times did not merely leave out that point, it also uncritically quoted economist Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, baselessly suggesting that the "stimulus plan was harmful." The Times quoted Hassett stating: "The actual unemployment rate is worse than their baseline -- suggesting that their stimulus plan was harmful. And yet, despite that, they're asserting it has been successful. That shows an incredible amount of gall."

By contrast, in a June 8 article, The New York Times reported Bernstein's remarks on his initial estimates:

Mr. Bernstein, addressing reporters on Monday at a contentious White House briefing, conceded that his forecast had been "clearly too optimistic." He said it had not taken into account figures from the fourth quarter of last year, because those numbers were not available at the time. But he said unemployment would be higher were it not for the economic recovery package.

"Job losses would have been deeper," Mr. Bernstein said. "The unemployment rate would have been -- by our estimate, by the end of next year would have been between one and a half and two points higher than it otherwise will be."

From Bernstein's June 8 press briefing:

Q Yes. In January you and Dr. Romer issued your recommendation for the stimulus. It turned out to be rather optimistic, I think it's fair to say. You said without the stimulus, the unemployment rate would be just over 8 percent. Obviously it's 9.4 percent. How do you explain that, and have you factored in whatever overly optimistic view you had then when you talk about 600,000 jobs now?

MR. BERNSTEIN: The answer to the second part of your question is yes, and I'll elaborate then in a second. On the first part of the question, when we made our initial estimates, that was before we had fourth-quarter results on GDP, which we later found out was contracting on an annual rate of 6 percent, far worse than we expected at that time.

To elaborate a bit on the second part of your question, the important thing to realize is that our estimate, whether it's 600,000 jobs over the second hundred days or 3.5 million over the life of the plan, that's the difference between what we believe would occur in the job market in the absence of this plan and what we actually observe in the job market. In the absence of the -- were this plan not to be implemented as I've described and as Dr. Romer and I articulated back then, in the absence of the plan, job losses would have been deeper from whatever level they started. Job losses would have been deeper, the unemployment rate would have been, by our estimate, by the end of next year would have been 1.5 and 2 points higher than it otherwise will be.

So those estimates that we are touting today and the estimates that you hear us talk about, that's the difference between what would have happened to the job market, the unemployment rate were this plan not in effect, and the actual outcomes of jobs. And that gap, that difference between actual and the expectation, absent the plan, that's where the estimates come from.

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Q Jared, getting back to Jake's question. When you put together the report in January you projected with the stimulus an unemployment rate of about 8 percent right now. It's a percentage and a half point higher than that. Why did that happen, and what should the country conclude from the inability to be able to properly calculate in January, whatever it is that happened in the economy that made you miss the mark by 1.5 percentage points?

MR. BERNSTEIN: Well, first of all, let's be very clear about this point. Our forecast at that time was right in the middle of every other forecast, and in fact, if we had had a forecast that was much worse than that, we would have been an outlier. We also would have been correct, it turned out. But the point is that the contraction of the economy in the fourth quarter -- you should recall back then that was -- the magnitude of that contraction was far larger than was expected. And so at the time our forecast seemed reasonable. Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic.

What I will say, though, and I don't want to lose sight of this, is that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, in our view, according to our analysis, will lead to an unemployment rate by the end of next year of 1.5 to 2 points lower than would otherwise be the case. And that is the direct result of the kinds of programs and projects we're talking about today, putting literally millions of people back to work who in the absence of this program would not be getting fully employed.

From the June 9 Los Angeles Times article, "Obama confronts doubts on stimulus, vows faster spending":

Results of the stimulus spending are difficult to measure, and so far the promised federal money has been slow in coming. As of May 29, just over 100 days since Obama signed the bill into law, only about 6% of the funds had been spent.

And on the jobs front, an early target was missed: Two of the president's top economic advisors put out a report Jan. 9 predicting that with the stimulus spending, the U.S. unemployment rate this year would not exceed 8%. It now stands at 9.4%. That figure is higher than Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein had said it would be even if the stimulus package had not been adopted.

"A lot of this is hokum. All along, [Obama's] job numbers have kept changing according to the political environment," said Peter Morici, a professor of international business at the University of Maryland.

Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative-leaning think tank in Washington, put it even more bluntly: "The actual unemployment rate is worse than their baseline -- suggesting that their stimulus plan was harmful. And yet, despite that, they're asserting it has been successful. That shows an incredible amount of gall."

Guesstimates

Obama has said the stimulus package has saved or created 150,000 jobs already and continues to pay off. Those numbers appear to be elastic, though: On a Sunday-morning news show, his senior advisor David Axelrod said the plan "has produced hundreds of thousands of jobs."

Any figure involves guesswork, the administration has conceded.

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    • Author by mk3872 (June 09, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
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      It's nice to be on the conservative side of issues when you have the power of News Corp and think tanks like AEI to lie out their a**.

      They very well know that the GDP numbers were modified and that there is absolutely NO evidence that the stimulus was harmful.

      This is just political posturing masquerading as actual economics.

      It is shameful.
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      • Author by anotheramerican (June 09, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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        mk wrote:
        This is just political posturing masquerading as actual economics.
        It is shameful.

        I agree. Obama should be ashamed. :-)
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 09, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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          Yeah... things sure would be better off WITHOUT all that gov't money putting people back to work, so that they can pay off debt, and start buy thing (read: supporting the private sector) again.

          Yet one more con who should have paid better attention back in Macro Econ 101. Apparently these guys think money falls from the sky to anyone who just works hard, but not for the gov't. Of course they alos believe that humanity magically appeared one day in an enchanted garden with a mystical tree and talking snake living in it, so I guess there's no limit to the amount of utter fantasy they'll accept.
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          • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
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            None of us have any idea, and PhD economists disagree on everything from how the New Deal helped or hurt, to economic cycles, to supply vs. demand side, to monetary policy, etc etc. Since you're a liberal and president is also, I guess you've got the insight that even the most well-learned economists don't have as a group.
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            • Author by loonz (June 09, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
                 
              How could the New Deal hurt?
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              • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
                   
                Short-term it almost certainly couldn't have hurt. Long-term vs. other kinds of reforms, who knows? There's definitely legitimate arguments on both sides, neither of which can be definitely proven! That was my point.
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                • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 11, 2009 8:21 am ET)
                     
                  Weak, dude. Wrong, in fact. You guys alwasy pull out this "legitimate arguments on both sides, neither of which can be definitely proven" BS on every issue in a lame attempt to elevate your contrarianism to actual theory and science. You argue the same way on Global Warming, and did the same on Tobacco and lung cancer a generation ago. ENOUGH. The New Deal HELPED, and it was ultimately the best policy. There is no "real debate" on this. Just because you've got a handful of conservative idealogues trying to make this inane point in order to support their philosphy DOES NOT mean that there is "debate" or that's it's "proven." And before you go talking about PhD's, you should realize that there ARE in fact quite a bit that the ALL agree on. There is a difference between not agreeing on everything and not agreeing on anything. And not every opinion is equally educated, important, or supported by fact and/or theory.
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        • Author by anotheramerican (June 09, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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          The following from the WSJ illustrates my point perfectly.

          "The expression 'create or save,' which has been used regularly by the President and his economic team, is an act of political genius," writes Mr. Mankiw. "You can measure how many jobs are created between two points in time. But there is no way to measure how many jobs are saved. Even if things get much, much worse, the President can say that there would have been 4 million fewer jobs without the stimulus."

          Mr. Obama's comments yesterday are a perfect illustration of just such a claim. In the months since Congress approved the stimulus, our economy has lost nearly 1.6 million jobs and unemployment has hit 9.4%. Invoke the magic words, however, and -- presto! -- you have the president claiming he has "saved or created" 150,000 jobs. It all makes for a much nicer spin, and helps you forget this is the same team that only a few months ago promised us that passing the stimulus would prevent unemployment from rising over 8%...

          ... During a March hearing of the Senate Finance Committee, Chairman Max Baucus challenged Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on the formula.

          "You created a situation where you cannot be wrong," said the Montana Democrat. "If the economy loses two million jobs over the next few years, you can say yes, but it would've lost 5.5 million jobs. If we create a million jobs, you can say, well, it would have lost 2.5 million jobs. You've given yourself complete leverage where you cannot be wrong, because you can take any scenario and make yourself look correct."

          Now, something's wrong when the president invokes a formula that makes it impossible for him to be wrong and it goes largely unchallenged. It's true that almost any government spending will create some jobs and save others. But as Milton Friedman once pointed out, that doesn't tell you much: The government, after all, can create jobs by hiring people to dig holes and fill them in."...

          http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451592762396883.html
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          • Author by mk3872 (June 09, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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            The WSJ "op-ed" quoted today as well by MMFA is 2 ex-Bushies telling us that the Obama admin should be ashamed for using the soft "created or saved jobs" line and that the Bush admin would NEVER stoop so low.

            But, alas, they sure did AND they are caught lying about it.

            There are WSJ Murdoch-owned right-wing op-eds, NOT news stories.

            To then claim that it was the Stim that caused 9.4% unemployment as opposed to forecasted 8% is incredibly dishonest because the reason is actually that the GDP numbers were adjusted AFTER the bill was passed.
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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              Of course, you don't deal with whether the "save" clause is right and honest or not, because if Bush did it, it's ok if Obama does.
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              • Author by loonz (June 09, 2009 4:51 pm ET)
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                I don't see anything wrong with it. If funds are sent to a particular state and that state uses it to stop or reduce the number of layoffs then those are jobs saved.
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                • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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                  You missed the point completely, unless you're being uber-naive that any government could/would literally continue to pay people to stay doing jobs when there employers are no longer doing so.
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                  • Author by loonz (June 09, 2009 5:12 pm ET)
                       
                    It doesn't really matter if you use "saved" or "new employment". I'm on a construction project right now that's about to end and I may be laid-off. If city construction starts revving up due to the stimulus my job will be saved and my colleagues on the bench will be employed again.
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          • Author by loonz (June 09, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
               
            You can measure it quantitatively. Let's say a government paid for construction project hires a number of unemployed workers (engineers, architects, surveyors, safety personnel, inspectors, maintenance and construction workers). All the different construction trades need equipment from supply houses which would induced employment there. The local shops now have more customers which will induced employment there. All that employment induces more new employment because we have more people purchasing goods and services. Someone should be able to come up with an approximate number of jobs created by each government project.

            The only reason why unemployment figures continue to rise is that the private sector is shedding more jobs than the government can create basically undercutting the government's effort. Why doesn't the private sector keep people on or even start hiring again to create the same effect as government job creation?
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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              It would have to be a massive statistical study, full of quantitative and qualitative analysis, to come up with whether one particular action "saved" a job or did not.

              Because you don't know. It's the future.
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              • Author by LuvLuLu (June 10, 2009 10:49 pm ET)
                   
                Actually, people whose job it is to study this stuff do know, and they have said that Obama's stimulus has saved/created a bunch of jobs!
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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 09, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
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      The lesson here, kids, is that it's ok to predict the future without all the information available (because hey, it's the future), and you're not responsible or culpable if you're wrong. Besides being a presidential economic advisor, you can also look into meteorology, because the same basic principle applies.
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      • Author by loonz (June 09, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
           
        They said they were wrong because they inadvertently used the wrong numbers. And the government predicts the future all the time because they need the information to produce legislation. That's what the CBO is for.
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    • Author by hm1342 (June 10, 2009 1:23 am ET)
         
      It would be nice if the President and his economic advisers could pinpoint exactly which jobs have either been saved or created, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. It's just more political misdirection.
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