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June 12, 2009 8:45 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Several conservative media figures attacked Paul Krugman over a recent column in which he wrote that "right-wing extremism is being systematically fed by the conservative media and political establishment."

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Several conservative media figures attacked New York Times columnist Paul Krugman over his June 12 column. In the column, Krugman wrote that "right-wing extremism is being systematically fed by the conservative media and political establishment" and went on to state that "the likes of Fox News and the R.N.C. ... have gone out of their way to provide a platform for conspiracy theories and apocalyptic rhetoric, just as they did the last time a Democrat held the White House." Media Matters for America documented numerous examples of such rhetoric in an April 13 report titled "Emerging Culture of Paranoia."

On the June 12 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, during a discussion of the Holocaust museum shooting, co-host Willie Geist said, "Both sides exploiting this. For sure. Here's Paul Krugman in this morning's New York Times, on the op-ed page." After Geist read a portion of Krugman's column, co-host Joe Scarborough said people who write him "use Paul Krugman as their shield for their left-wing hate. This is because Paul Krugman, like a lot of I would say extremists on the right, they only see their side. They have a close-minded worldview. And so Paul Krugman uses this tragedy, uses this death to try to knock down his opponents on the right."

During a discussion of Krugman's column on the June 12 edition of The Neal Boortz Show, host Neal Boortz asserted: "He's talking about all of the right-wing -- the conservative opposition to the programs of Barack Obama. You know what he refers to it as? It's all hate. It's all hate." After a caller responded, "It's not hate," Boortz stated, "You and I both know that. We know that. But the liberals, they're very effective at indoctrination and brainwashing techniques."

And on the June 12 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck, Beck said of Krugman's column: "[H]e's linked conservatives now to conspiracy theorists. In other words, this isn't about me. It's not about Bill O'Reilly. This is about you. You -- you're crazy. You're a conservative? Oh my -- they're watching you, aren't they? Is that that black helicopter there? I mean, they're just trying to make you feel like a crazy person. Why? To silence you." As Media Matters documented, during his June 12 radio program, Beck "demand[ed] a retraction" for Krugman's assertion in the column that Beck had "warned viewers that the Federal Emergency Management Agency might be building concentration camps as part of the Obama administration's 'totalitarian' agenda (although he eventually conceded that nothing of the kind was happening)." But Beck had previously said that he couldn't "debunk" the FEMA conspiracy theory.

From the June 12 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: In today's New York Times, that, yes, is still in business today, Paul Krugman took some nasty shots at me, Bill O'Reilly, and some other commentators saying, quote: "For the most part, the likes of Fox News and the RNC haven't directly incited violence." Uh, really? I mean, is that saying that in some small part, we have?

He also said, quote: "And at this point, whatever dividing line there was between mainstream conservatism and the black helicopter crowd seems to have been virtually erased." OK, OK. All right. So, he's linked conservatives now to conspiracy theorists. In other words, this isn't about me. It's not about Bill O'Reilly. This is about you. You -- you're crazy. You're a conservative? Oh my -- they're watching you, aren't they? Is that that black helicopter there?

I mean, they're just trying to make you feel like a crazy person. Why? To silence you. Tonight, here's "The One Thing." If offering opinions on the news can be linked to hate and extremism, then Paul Krugman should be in the cell right next to me, and on the other side will be Bill O'Reilly. Oh, and Paul? We can talk for years. Oh, yes, we can.

From the June 12 broadcast of Cox Radio Syndication's The Neal Boortz Show:

BOORTZ: Well, we -- maybe we believe some of the worst press about -- I mean, Paul Krugman has an article today. What is it, New York Times? He's talking about all of the right-wing -- the conservative opposition to the programs of Barack Obama. You know what he refers to it as?

CALLER: What?

BOORTZ: It's all hate. It's all hate.

CALLER: It's not hate. It is not hate.

BOORTZ: No, no. You and I both know that. We know that. But the liberals, they're very effective at indoctrination and brainwashing techniques.

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    • Author by mybrotherskeeper (June 12, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
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      Once again, Paul Krugman, almost alone in our national media, said what needed to be said. He was absolutely correct.

      I am beginning to wonder if future historians will refer to an American Cultural Revolution in which our core values were distorted and fundamentally damaged by the irrational and uninformed -- not to mention hateful -- Right.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (June 13, 2009 1:19 am ET)
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        I thought Krugman was actually pretty mild-- just summing up the obvious.
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        • Author by juliajayne (June 13, 2009 8:16 pm ET)
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          Paul Krugman is a righteous dude. More people need to speak up about this, and I'm glad he had the cohones to do it, knowing he would get attacked by the usual suspects.

          Now if the so called "real" conservatives would grow a set, they might be able to get their party back. The Daddy party needs some real daddies (or better yet Mommies) to give them a kick in the collective butts and tell them to stop getting coerced by the dumb as dirt brigade on their teevees.
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          • Author by jeter2 (June 15, 2009 10:15 am ET)
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            Krugman a righteous dude?

            Aw darlin, don't get carried away...he's just another partisan columnist. Though he does occasionally hit the mark. Hey they all do. Occasionally.

            The Daddy party needs some real daddies (or better yet Mommies) to give them a kick in the collective butts and tell them to stop getting coerced by the dumb as dirt brigade on their teevees

            Now can I choose one of the Mommies for the Republican party? No not Sarah[yuck]...I want Mika!! ;-)
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            • Author by thejbomb65 (June 15, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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              well his average to me holds alot more weight.....given that he has been pretty right oh yeah and he has something that most neo con idiots don't a Nobel Prize.....yeah thats someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about
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            • Author by juliajayne (June 15, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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              Ha! My complete treasure, I'm glad you wear boxers for the titanium cohones it took to make THAT remark. (tighty whiteys would be too small) Yeah, right, Paul Krugman, partisan hack..........as if. Pfft!

              And I know you jest about having the vanilla bean, Mika, being able to kick the Repubs backside. A surefire Rosie the Riveter, that one...........NOT! I've seen more fight from a wet noodle. :-0)
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (June 15, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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              Dear Jeter baby, I gave you a thumbs up. But only for comedic value. ;-0)
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 13, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
        11 3
        brotherskeeper,Amen to that. These RIGHT WING talking heads can sure dish it out but are like little babys in that they cant take any return critisism.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 15, 2009 10:24 am ET)
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        Germany's does. ;)
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    • Author by Blue Fielder (June 12, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
      14 4
      Boortz calling something hate? The irony, it drips and stains the carpet.
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    • Author by mk3872 (June 13, 2009 2:36 am ET)
      9 3
      Black helicopters? They're coming for you?

      I am not sure what is more offensive? Glenn Beck or the fact that the MSM think this guy is just AWESOME?
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    • Author by ex-punk (June 13, 2009 3:37 am ET)
      11 3
      If Beck, Boortz and the rest of the lot were truly mature human beings, they would apologize but they don't. Instead they stay in denial and fuel the flames. Anyone could see this comming. I guess they don't want to lose the wacko vote. Yet this is what happens when you tell a lie and have to cover it up with a million others. You create dangerous situations.
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    • Author by ernie1241 (June 13, 2009 11:23 am ET)
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      There is an effort by people like Rush Limbaugh to connect James W. Von Brunn to LEFT wing ideology. Actually, Rush Limbaugh's comments are part of a larger attempt by some elements within the right-wing (particularly the John Birch Society) to propose that we accept a new formulation or understanding of a political spectrum.

      The basic premise of the new spectrum is that history proves that government is evil and dangerous and always diminishes freedom and facilitates tyranny. Therefore, the more government activism or intervention -- the less freedom exists in society.

      Consequently, they propose acceptance of a new spectrum which places anarchy [no government] on the extreme right and totalitarian dictatorships [total government] on the extreme left.

      Then----groups we currently consider extreme right (such as Birch Society) place themselves in the CENTER of the new spectrum because they claim to favor "limited government".

      It is a rather transparent attempt to pretend that everything despicable, dishonorable, frightening and dangerous originates exclusively from the LEFT side of the spectrum whereas everything decent, honorable, moral, and desirable may be found exclusively in the center and center-right side of the spectrum.

      Furthermore, the new "middle" or "center" (Birchers et al) propose that liberalism, socialism, communism, fascism, nazism are ALL forms of "collectivism" or "statism" (aka PRO-government activism) and, consequently, they inevitably produce tyranny -- therefore, not much point in making fastidious distinctions between or among them.

      I recently completed a report which reveals the RIGHT-WING ideas, personalities, and organizations which impacted and motivated James W. Von Brunn.

      My report is based, primarily, upon first-time-released FBI files and documents and may be seen here:

      http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/vonbrunn
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 13, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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      Of course they're going to blast him for his column, because it implicates them in being complicit with peddling a culture of shoddy conspiracy theories and hate against liberals, and you know, he's pretty right on the money.

      Look at the guest lists of some of these shows, and tell me that they're dealing with mainstream conservatives. They're not, unless of course, the fringe is becoming the norm, and I still think that it's not.

      Why don't real conservatives step up, denounce this crap, and take back their party?
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      • Author by phredicles (June 13, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
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        They're not, unless of course, the fringe is becoming the norm, and I still think that it's not.

        Why don't real conservatives step up, denounce this crap, and take back their party?


        I hope you're right. I'm not so sure myself. I think a lot of people who normally would be considered conservatives have been driven out of the conservative establishments, handing control of the asylum to the lunatics. The divide appears to be the 26%-ers vs. everybody else. However, the 26%-ers are receiving far too much deference in the government and press.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 13, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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          I hope that I'm right as well, it's just that the 26 percenters are the folks who are the loudest, and who are also the ones on TV, Radio, and other various media.

          I think that conservatives, both moderates, and regular old fashioned conservatives, are out there, and they are the majority, but the loudmouths are the ones who are being heard.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 13, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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            I don't know, magnolia. I think it became pretty clear during the Clinton years and especially the impeachment period that the far-right was now the mainstream in the Republican party. And, I'm sorry to say it has only gotten worse since then.
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            • Author by magnolialover (June 13, 2009 7:05 pm ET)
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              I can completely and totally see that point. I mean, during the entire 8 years of W. Bush, we (meaning liberals) were painted as having BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome), and some of us did have it. Thing is, we never expressed it in such violent terms, or never talked about "taking back our country through any means necessary". We wanted to win in 2004, but not at the expense of our values. We never talked about people we disagreed with as "having blood on their hands", and so on and so forth.

              Due to the swell of media sources since the Clinton years (internet, blogs, 24/7 news getting bigger, and so on), the roar is louder. I don't remember any left wing pundits / columnists in the media who were so ANGRY about Bush as the right, in general, are about Obama. And we're only a couple of hundred days into his first term.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 13, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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        "Why dont real conservatives stand up and take back their party?" Because they are scared of the noisey fringe element that is in control.
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    • Author by jmh (June 13, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
      13 2
      Quoth Thee Glen Beck: "At some point you have to take a gun"

      I think Beck should be arrested
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      • Author by jmh (June 13, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
        11 2
        please see MMFA article: Right-wing media and the fringe: A growing history of violence (and denial)

        for the above quote
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (June 14, 2009 7:01 am ET)
        2 1
        It is not just Americans he uses his fear tactics on to incite mistrust and hate for Obama. He would also like unstable countries to believe President Obama is not trust worthy. Watch his May 12, 2009 interview with Georgian President Saakashvili. I think it is treason!
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    • Author by jbrantow (June 13, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
      11 2
      Glenn Beck is still the overweight, insecure bully that he was in grade school. He has to resort to making faces and over acting his talking points. What a pathetic character.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (June 13, 2009 3:14 pm ET)
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      What I love more than anything else is how the corporate owned media figure-heads are all flipping out as if the DHS report was specifically talking about them.

      There is absolutely no reason that I can consider as to why Fox-Noise, Rush, Savage, and other talking heads would even think that the report was about them...

      Oh wait...

      This is right-wing corporate owned media we are talking about here...

      Never-mind!

      As for Paul Krugman... I've used him as a source in two separate essays in school... I personally feel that no essay on the economy is complete without his name being somehow part of it.
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    • Author by marco21 (June 13, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      Krugman just held up the mirror and now conservative media figures are complaining about their crappy appearance. Sorry guys and girls. Run a brush through your mess. Clean it up.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (June 13, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
      7 2
      MMFA's transcription didn't do Beck justice - that was heavily watered down
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    • Author by night-n-day (June 13, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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      The same people that equate ALL Muslims with the terrorist ideology of Muslim terrorists suddenly find it "outrageous" to equate terrorist acts committed by conservatives with ALL conservatives, even when the justification of those terrorist acts are fed by the top voices of the conservative movement.

      Anyone who thinks the "liberal media" wouldn't be having a field day if leftwing terrorists had attacked twice in the past week the way rightwing conservative terrorists have attacked Americans twice in the last week is as delusional as the people who believe the national media is "liberal".

      In a week where 2 conservative terrorist attacks on America have taken place, what is the top political story in the mainstream media? David Letterman making a joke about Sara Palin, a person who is a joke to all but the rightwing and their MSM.
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      • Author by oscar the grouch (June 14, 2009 1:25 am ET)
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        I saw a lot more in MSM on Tiller and the Holocast Museum killings than Letterman and the Arkansas soldier shootings. Guess it depends on where you look for your news and what you consider MSM.
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      • Author by oscar the grouch (June 14, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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        And on the flip side, those who make sure we know that all Muslims are not terrorists are trying to blame all "right wing terrorism" on the "vast right wing".
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        • Author by solon (June 14, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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          No. No we arent. The report itself was about rightwing extremists. If the right threw a fit about that it is because they themselves identified with that description. What is being said here is that too many of the screechmonkeys on the right like Beck are pandering TO them. I dont see anything that indicts the entire right and I never DID see any such accusation
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      • Author by HughG (June 14, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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        Just a clarification here: while Beck and Boortz and the other rabid right-wingers claim that he did, Krugman didn't equate terrorist acts committed by conservatives with all conservatives. He said that some conservatives, treated as mainstream by the media, set the tone for terrorist acts by extremist nutcases by their inflammatory rhetoric. He explained who he was talking about and gave examples of their outrageous speech.

        Krugman is one of the few liberal columnists who tell it like it is without being afraid that the cons will dismiss him as the librulmedia. I'm glad he is where he is; if he were part of the Obama Administration, he wouldn't be so free to tell the truth.
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 13, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
      14 3
      and they say the liberal media has such a big megaphone... and we got ONE, count em, ONE liberal criticizing the right and the conservatives jump all over him with no help from the rest of the left or further criticism.
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 13, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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      everything beck and boortz criticized liberals for being and doing is exactly what the far right has always been known to be doing. pot meet kettle.
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    • Author by sandyg (June 13, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
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      Actually, I think Paul K. hit the nail pretty much squarely on the head. Today's hoard of rightwing ideologoues remind me of the crowd of propogandists spawned in the 1920's, by Joseph Goebbels in Germany.
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    • Author by jct405 (June 13, 2009 5:48 pm ET)
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      It might help to consider first that Beck, O'Reilly and Limbaugh are entertainers. Their motivation is to grab their audience and grow it. Attract viewers. Sell eyeballs to advertisers. Books. Videos. Etc.

      These are not stupid people. They know that in their world there is no such thing as bad publicity. Limbaugh is exposed as a Vicodan addict and his viewership increases.

      No different with Dave Letterman. Alex Rodriguez knocking up Bristol Palin? Cruel and unusual. Hilarious delivery. But mean. Right? Poor kid. Imagine what she goes through.

      As to the question whether Von Brunn was incited by Glenn Beck, Von Brunn was insane. Timothy McVeigh was obviously insane. It seems unlikely that a rational provocation can be drawn.
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    • Author by katanga (June 13, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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      This is a joke...Right this Paul Krugman guy is the most hateful reporter out there...99% of the media is way out in left field A handful of reporters are conservative and that's a conspiracy?
      tell that to the average New Yorker they might believe the NY Times
      a city in which every other criminal carry's a gun yet the honest citizen has no 2nd amendment rights. yeah chuck shumer is your kind of guy..along with rangel and hillary...a real fine bunch!!
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    • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 13, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
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      Oh God, I just accidentally imagined Krugman and Becky Dull sharing an actual cell.

      BECK: Paul, I feel like saying to you, PROVE you are not bogarting the cigarettes."
      KRUGMAN: Those aren't cigarettes, Glenn. They're rat feces. I've been telling you that for a week. And stop that fake sobbing.
      BECK: I'm sorry! I just love my self-inflicted dragon tattoo... and I fear for it!
      KRUGMAN: Then maybe you shouldn't have used Bill's dinner knife for it.
      O'REILLY: Hey, I need that back, I got a falafel care package. Oh, and Glenn, your wife sent you another water bottle of Grey Goose.
      [Cut to end theme music]
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    • Author by solon (June 14, 2009 1:30 am ET)
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      I wonder what rightwing jerk just comes in and gives every liberal a thumbs down no matter what they say?
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      • Author by laughing kookaburra (June 14, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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        Probably from the same crowd that inhabits the yahoo buzzup site...they love the thumbs down on anything short of savage weiner nation rants.
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      • Author by njguy93 (June 15, 2009 12:57 am ET)
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        Take your pick. Does it really matter? They are all sad figures. The best they can do is the thumbs down thing or some non-sensical post which is laughable and easily debunked. As I said in another thread, they are emblematic of modern-day conservatism. Sad, really.

        THANK YOU.
        njguy93@yahoo.com
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      • Author by jeter2 (June 15, 2009 10:08 am ET)
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        I wonder what rightwing jerk just comes in and gives every liberal a thumbs down no matter what they say?

        Hey Solon, I tell ya what, you find out who the dozen [or more] leftwing moonbats are that give every Conservative a thumbs down no matter what they say, & since you're one of my Lib buds I'll investigate who is responsible on my side for this thumbing down crap ;-)

        Seriously though, I think this thumb up & down stuff is foolish & it was bound to be misused.
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    • Author by Ribelin2000 (June 14, 2009 8:38 am ET)
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      You know, these conservatives who keep insisting that there's no connection between right-wing rhetoric and the violence that has been going on recently are flat-out hypocrites. For years they have been accusing liberals of inciting violence. For example, they went after Al Sharpton, saying that his "white interlopers" remark led to Freddie's Fashion Mart being burnt to the ground. If Sharpton is responsible for that, then how are O'Reilly and Bernard Goldberg NOT responsible for the acts of violence that are connected to THEIR demagoguery?
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    • Author by Zed (June 14, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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      Krugman is a great bloke.
      We from Europe look at his and other positive outbreaks in the US with hope and optimism.
      Keep it up, guys!
      Bring all those black helicopters down!
      They are disgrace for the whole civilised world!
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    • Author by didi (June 14, 2009 8:24 pm ET)
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      BOORTZ: No, no. You and I both know that. We know that. But the liberals, they're very effective at indoctrination and brainwashing techniques.
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      Comeon Neal, what do you think your job is? Pretty funny that the propagandists don't know they are propagandists.
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    • Author by njguy93 (June 15, 2009 1:09 am ET)
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      Willie Geist said both sides were exploiting the Holocaust Museum shooting. Then he uses Paul Krugman as an example. That is absurd beyond belief. Krugman correctly points out that several irresponsible media figures have been spewing inflammatory rhetoric since even before Obama got elected, and that helps to contribute to the tone and to the environment that can ultimately set the stage for these right-wing terrorist attacks. That isn't exploiting, that's stating the obvious.

      The ones who are exploiting this are the frauds on conservative talk radio and television who say asinine things like Obama criticizing Israel contributed to the attack on the Holocaust Museum. Somehow, this idiocy found its way to the White House Briefing Room, via Ann Compton of ABC NEWS, who actually asked the utterly asinine and absurd question of whether or not Barack Obama visiting Buchenwald actually may have been responsible or may have contributed to what happened at the Holocaust Museum. The fact that the question somehow found its way to the White House Briefing Room is a disgrace and that was a sad day and a sad moment for America.

      THANK YOU.
      njguy93@yahoo.com
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    • Author by maddymort7289 (June 15, 2009 1:31 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck not inciting violence? What about his statement about wanting to kill Michael Moore? I'm sure there are many other examples. Somebody should string all the Beck clips together.

      It seems to me there is a difference between the "liberal" shows such as Olbermann and the Hannity/O'Reilly/Limbaugh. Olbermann/Maddow tend to talk about specific people and incidents. Hannity/Limbaugh/O'Reilly making sweeping generalizations "them" (liberals, anyone not Republican/Conservative) against "us/you" (Conservatives) in apocalyptic terms.



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