NBC's Guthrie falsely suggests AMA represents "the nation's doctors"
SUMMARY: Savannah Guthrie falsely suggested that the American Medical Association represents all of "the nation's doctors." In fact, the AMA represents about 29 percent of licensed U.S. doctors, according to the AMA's own figures.
During the June 15 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, NBC News White House correspondent Savannah Guthrie falsely suggested that the American Medical Association (AMA) represents all of "the nation's doctors." In fact, the AMA -- which reportedly stated to Congress that it opposed "a public health insurance option" before backtracking from that position -- represents about 29 percent of licensed U.S. doctors, according to the AMA's own figures. Moreover, other doctors' groups, including the National Physicians Alliance and Physicians for a National Health Program, support some form of additional public insurance, as The Washington Post's Ezra Klein has noted.
During her appearance on Morning Joe, Guthrie referred to the AMA as "the nation's doctors" and "the doctors." Discussing a June 15 AMA meeting Obama plans to attend in Chicago, Guthrie stated: "He has to sell his plan, obviously, to the audience before him, which is the nation's doctors, but also the larger audience, and certainly an audience in Congress." Guthrie added, "And the doctors, in particular, are on record as opposing this notion of having a public plan, a government-sponsored insurance plan, alongside all the private plans that we are all familiar with. ... At the same time, there is no question that he really wants a public option to be part of whatever health-care reform looks like, and this is something the doctors oppose."
However, contrary to Guthrie's description of the AMA as "the nation's doctors" and "the doctors," the AMA does not represent the majority of doctors in the United States. According to its 2008 annual report, the AMA "is a national professional association of physicians with approximately 236 thousand members," and the AMA's online physician locator -- which states that it provides "basic professional information on virtually every licensed physician in the United States" -- includes "more than 814,000 doctors." A March 2005 USA Today article similarly reported that "[t]he nation now has about 800,000 active physicians." Based on the AMA figures, the association represents slightly less than 29 percent of licensed physicians in the United States.
As Klein noted in a June 11 washingtonpost.com blog entry, the National Physicians Alliance supports "a public plan," and Physicians for a National Health Program is in favor of a "single-payer" system of health care.
From the June 15 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
GUTHRIE: He has to sell his plan, obviously, to the audience before him, which is the nation's doctors, but also the larger audience, and certainly an audience in Congress. This is going to be a big week for health care, a lot of moving parts. And the doctors, in particular, are on record as opposing this notion of having a public plan, a government-sponsored insurance plan, alongside all the private plans that we are all familiar with.
This is something the president clearly supports, even though there's a lot of talk around here that the administration is flexible. At the same time, there is no question that he really wants a public option to be part of whatever health-care reform looks like, and this is something the doctors oppose.
Now there was a little bit of a clarification of that; the AMA later wrote a letter to the editor saying, well, we're open to other alternatives. But it's clear that they and a lot of folks in Congress, not just Republicans, some Democrats even, are fiercely opposed to this public plan option. That's going to be one of the biggest fights when it comes to health care reform this summer -- that, and of course, how to pay for it.















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Is this what we call a slow day in the "conservative misinformation" business?
She referred to "the audience before him, which is the nation's doctors...And the doctors, in particular, are on record as opposing this notion of having a public plan..."
She referred to AMA members as "the nation's doctors."
Most doctors rightly oppose the 'public option.' If the U.S. government becomes the 'competition' to private insurance, there soon will be no private insurance. The government has already screwed up the medical field beyond belief, why would any sane person want to give them more power?
Second, competition is not at the consumer level but at the consumers employer's level. The employer has powerful incentives to NOT provide coverage....ask GM.
Last the government does not compete. They crush. Ask Sallie Mae and NelNet about government 'competition' and government efforts to 'level the playing field'.
Why is no one proposing a tax free account that your employer must place at your control to do as you see fit (10% of your wage, above and beyond your wage--ex you get 10.00/hr, and and additional 1.00/hr for health care) and your get to keep any excess (vs the government as it works now) tax free...then there would be real consumer competition including providers...a la lasik.
And I have no idea what you're talking about in your last paragraph.
shouldnt every one receive their full income?
shouldnt health savings accounts be yours to keep instead of earning money for the government?
if you dont understand the issues in play.....say 'baaaa'
Obama was booed during his speech to the AMA when he said he would not take up tort reform. Why should we have tort reform in a free society?
God, we certainly hope so. It's time they go the way of the buggy whip manufacturers.
Private insurers are almost as inefficient as the government. They survive because there is no no real competition.
Any well run government plan would prove it and drive them out of business.
That is why, IMO.
That is why the Republicans oppose anything public funded. In every sphere of my life (in Mass.), the only choice I have are private companies (influential Capitalists) 'competing' for my business except there is no real competition.
1. If I want cable, I cannot get anything but Comcast. Only comcast provides the cable service in town.
2. If I want a a land line phone, nothing but Verizon.
3. If I want electricity, only choice is Mass Electric.
4. If I want gas heating, only choice is Baystate gas and they say I have to pay for running the pipe from where ever it currently is, to my home.
Free market, competition, Capitalism etc. have not been useful to me.
regarding 1, you are wrong...there is dish network and direct tv
regarding 2, only if you need a land line--lots of options with cell phones and voip
regarding 3...yep we need deregulation
regarding 4..what about electric, oil and wood?
How about this for starters - they know what they are talking about!
Unlike the Barney Franks and Barry Obamas and Chuck Grassleys of this world - who have never run a business (except maybe to assist in protection for a male brothel), and have no idea of how to go about making a business profitable.
While Grassley's Iowa neighbors have made a living from farming, Grassley has made millions as a simple farmer from Iowa. He started of as a conservative but has become a 'statist.' And he thinks he knows better than doctors about medical care! The arrogance and stupidity of our 'ruling elite' is so profound as to be breathtaking.
Debunked talking point on Barney Franks duly noted.
Taking business's advice, actually allowing them to write the legislation that controls their professional activities, has brought us to this sorry state in so many differant professions. The middle class has taken so many hits in the last eight years+, what hit me again, it feels so good!
Doctors do not have much of a say today on what care their patients recieve.
Your recitation of medical business CEO's talking points, not so breathtaking. Just more Straussian rhetoric. Of no benifit to the average american.
Much of medicine in the U.S. was charity until the feds got involved. As a child, I was hospitalized for 6 months in a Catholic hospital. As they checked me out, a nun asked my Dad to come to the office. He asked what he owed, and they asked what he could pay - and that was the bill! They would take his farm today, but it is illegal to do what they did then.
Governmental intrusion made charity an impossibility. It made the cost of health care prohibitive, and before it is over the government will have completely strangled the best health care system in the world.
www.docsforapublicplanoption.org
We are a diverse group of healthcare professionals and students of the health professions that support the choice of a public health insurance plan as an essential component of comprehensive health care reform this year.