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Doocy twisted Biden remark to falsely claim administration backtracking on job creation

June 15, 2009 11:43 am ET

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SUMMARY: Steve Doocy falsely claimed Joe Biden backtracked from the administration's stated goal of saving or creating 3.5 million jobs -- over two years -- via the stimulus bill, saying, "Joe said that's probably closer to 600,000." In fact, Biden said the administration predicted that the stimulus package would create or save 600,000 jobs "in the next 100 days."

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On the June 15 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy falsely claimed that comments Vice President Joe Biden made during a June 14 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press constituted the Obama administration backtracking from its stated goal of saving or creating 3.5 million jobs through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Doocy stated, "[O]ver the last couple of weeks, we've been talking about the very rosy projection that if they passed the stimulus, 3.5 million jobs would be created or saved, and yesterday, Joe said that's probably closer to 600,000." In fact, the figure Biden cited is not at odds with the administration's prediction. During the interview, Biden said the administration predicted that the stimulus package would create or save 600,000 jobs "in the next 100 days"; when Obama signed the recovery act, he stated that it "will save or create more than 3.5 million jobs over the next two years."

During his Meet the Press appearance, host David Gregory asked Biden: "A hundred days after it was signed, the president said 150,000 jobs had been created or saved. Can you explain where that number comes from?" Biden responded:

BIDEN: Yes, look, there's an econometric model that economists have been using for decades to correlate the economic circumstances of the nation with the creation of jobs. It is a model no one has questioned. It's a model the Council of Economic Advisers have used to come up with that 150,000 jobs. But in fact -- and by the way, I think we're going to create another 600,000 jobs in the next 100 days, because, now, this thing is beginning to roll out.

We actually have let these contracts, the governors with -- who have money for road contracts and so on, they're now just putting spades in the ground, just hiring people. And so, I don't know anybody who's argued with the model that we've used. But the key here for us is not whether or not we're going to argue about how many jobs, you know, there are out there; it's whether or not are we, in fact, producing employment for people? And it's undeniable.

From the June 15 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: Joe Biden over the weekend revealed he would like to be president. How great is that? He also revealed that while they rushed that whole stimulus package through the House and the Senate so that we could start spending all that money -- and we're still waiting on that -- apparently people overestimated just exactly what good it would do and how many jobs it would save. Listen to the vice president just yesterday.

BIDEN [video clip]: No one realized how bad the economy was. The projections, in fact, turned out to be worse, but it was -- we took the mainstream model as to what we thought and everyone else thought the unemployment rate would be. ... Everyone guessed wrong at the time the estimate was made about what the state of the economy was at the moment this was passed.

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): I don't think everyone guessed wrong. There were plenty of people who came out against the stimulus package. So I'm not sure that that's an accurate statement that everyone got it wrong that unemployment would, in fact, go to 9.4 percent, and many economists believe it will continue to go higher.

At this point, I'm also wondering if the president will be calling the vice president in today for a very important meeting and say that we need to get on the same page when we talk about the stimulus, because I'm not so sure that Obama would want Joe Biden saying that the stimulus has not produced as many jobs as they thought it would.

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): And the problem with the stimulus package is we needed it right away. We needed the $787 billion right away or we were going to -- the whole country was just going to go into the side of a mountain. We've only spent 44 billion of the 787 billion. Now, the majority of the country, according to a Rasmussen poll, does not want us to spend the rest.

DOOCY: Right.

KILMEADE: They've had it. And there's two areas that Barack Obama is hitting under 50 percent, and that is American people's confidence in Barack Obama with the budget deficit -- 48 percent disapprove of the way he's handling the budget deficit --

DOOCY: Right.

KILMEADE: -- and just about the same amount disapprove of the way he's handling spending. And the stimulus package plays into that --

DOOCY: Sure.

KILMEADE: -- and that could be trouble for the White House.

DOOCY: See, I think the White House sent Joe Biden out over the weekend to say, look, we're not going to have the president deliver the bad news. We're going to have Joe Biden do it. And keep in mind -- and Gretch talked about the unemployment, you know, pass it -- it'll never get past north of 8. Now, it's at 9.4 percent. But over the last couple of weeks, we've been talking about the very rosy projection that if they passed the stimulus, 3.5 million jobs would be created or saved, and yesterday, Joe said that's probably closer to 600,000.

But keep in mind, that metric of jobs saved does not exist. The Labor Department doesn't track it, and we've heard from a number of commentators and former members of administrations, they say that number is just made up. It's political spin.

From the June 14 edition of NBC News' Meet the Press:

GREGORY: I want to come back to the issue of foreign policy, a lot to discuss there, but I want to go to the other big test for this administration, and that is, of course, the economy. You are in charge of monitoring the stimulus --

BIDEN: That's right.

GREGORY: -- $800 billion stimulus. A hundred days after it was signed, the president said 150,000 jobs had been created or saved.

BIDEN: That's right.

GREGORY: Can you explain where that number comes from?

BIDEN: Yes, look, there's an econometric model that economists have been using for decades to correlate the economic circumstances of the nation with the creation of jobs. It is a model no one has questioned. It's a model the Council of Economic Advisers have used to come up with that 150,000 jobs. But in fact -- and by the way, I think we're going to create another 600,000 jobs in the next 100 days, because, now, this thing is beginning to roll out.

We actually have let these contracts, the governors with -- who have money for road contracts and so on, they're now just putting spades in the ground, just hiring people. And so, I don't know anybody who's argued with the model that we've used. But the key here for us is not whether or not we're going to argue about how many jobs, you know, there are out there; it's whether or not are we, in fact, producing employment for people? And it's undeniable.

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    • Author by shaggles (June 15, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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      Nice. How can these people get away with flat out lying like this? It's shocking and it's not just Fox. Even the supposed liberal media does this kind of thing too.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (June 15, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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        I'm just wondering how in the world any objective person could read/listen/watch the comments of these three and consider it "Fair and Balanced" "We report/You Decide" journalism? All three of these wacko's opine each and every day about each and every story they cover, and each and every time the opinions are conservative.

        It just amazes me that people actually say that they watch Fox because it's fair. They complain about liberal bias in the media and act as if conservative bias is not a bad thing. What we can be thankful for is that despite Fox being ratings leader in Cable News, their viewership is still a very small % of the population. O'Reilly loves to brag about his ratings as does Beck. What O'Reilly or Beck don't brag about is that their viewership is roughly 1% of the total population. That means 99% of the population either doesn't know who he is or doesn't care what he has to say. I guess that's something to take solace in....right?
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        • Author by Prospect (June 15, 2009 1:03 pm ET)
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          I watch Fox News for the same reason I watch WWE. Because even though most of it's fake and scripted.... it's funny to watch.
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          • Author by pezzimiztix (June 15, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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            why such high ratings and other left media outlets....like all of them - are practically bankrupt? nytimes, mslsd, etc, etc...
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            • Author by Craig (June 15, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
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              Why is McDonald's the world's most popular restaurant? Do they have the best food?
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            • Author by loonz (June 15, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
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              That only proves there's about a couple of million of people on the fringe in this country.
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            • Author by solon (June 16, 2009 6:55 pm ET)
                 
              The networks DWARF Fox ratings. Do you EVER know what you are talking about? I guess you do. Whatever Rush TELLS you to talk about.
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      • Author by pezzimiztix (June 15, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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        how can obama claim that he saved 150,00 jobs when over 1.5 million have lost their jobs under his watch? does that make sense to you?
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        • Author by Craig (June 15, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
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          Yes, I was able to understand mathematics of that complexity by the second grade.
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        • Author by smarshall1432997 (June 16, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
             
          Maybe when former Pres. Bush had his one on one with Pres. Obama back in December 2008, Bush gave Obama heads up of more job losses coming. These job losses appeared to be increasing so rapidly that the next couple of months would total over 5 million people umemployed. Well, Pres. Obama took action with the help of fellow Democrats and the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Stimulus Bill) was signed. Within weeks of signing this Bill, Pres. Obama noticed the unemployment numbers were "NOT" rapidly increasing as Bush had stated. And, there appeared to be 150,000 difference from Bush's total....and "wa la" 150,000 jobs saved since signing the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Stimulus Bill). Makes sense to me. Now, what about you?
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        • Author by solon (June 16, 2009 6:56 pm ET)
             
          Adult education. Look into it
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    • Author by LuvLuLu (June 15, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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      I watched MTP on Sunday and David Gregory's right-leaning bias was clearly on display.

      We have seen similar challenges to the $150,000 number here - it's on the rightwing talking points, apparently, and Gregory asked that very question.

      It's an estimate, just like other administrations have estimated the number of jobs they have created! It's based upon years of study and special expertise in this arena. It's not like the Obama Administration pulled it out of an orifice.

      If you read Krugman's column from this weekend, you'll see why this talking point is out there. They want us to say that we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and therefore we should stop this extra spending since it's not necessary any more. That would be foolish, but that's what the right wants us to do.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/opinion/15krugman.html?_r=1
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    • Author by mfinn7314 (June 15, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
         
      Of course you have to keep in mind that Doocey is abviously intelligence and/or education impaired. If that isn't obvious in his on-air "communication skills", I don't know what is.
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      • Author by eddiebear2 (June 15, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
           
        http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/joe-tries-to-spin-but-ends-up-twisting-in-the-wind/#comment-184810

        Joe was correct!
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    • Author by hongdb (June 16, 2009 6:58 am ET)
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      I'm just not confident that we can attribute ill-intent to Doocy. He strikes me as a genuine, solid-gold imbecile. Is there evidence demonstrating that all of his "misstatements" err on his/FNC's partisan side? That'd help establish some baseline sentience; without that, I'm afraid he deserves our pity more than our scorn. Watching him--even in the briefest of clips--makes me squirm with shame, as if I am deriving entertainment from the feeble-minded. Which, to all intents, purposes and evidence, I am.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 16, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
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        Exactly my reaction to the clueless eedjit. I can't believe he's allowed out in public without adult supervision, much less that he's holding a job where he has to use words. It's painful to watch. Guilty pleasures I can take (actually I love them). Guilty shame, not so much.
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