Beck hosts "disenfranchised Democrat" ... who's also apparently an anti-Obama conspiracy theorist
SUMMARY: Glenn Beck hosted "disenfranchised Democrat" Nancy Armstrong, whose blog features numerous posts advancing the falsehood that President Obama has not released a valid copy of his birth certificate.
On the June 15 edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck hosted Nancy Armstrong -- whom he described as a "disenfranchised Democrat" who "has a blog called MsPlacedDemocrat.com" -- in order to assert that it wasn't "only Republicans" who have hosted tea parties. One topic that didn't come up during the discussion is the numerous posts on Armstrong's blog advancing the falsehood that President Obama has not released a valid copy of his birth certificate.
For instance, a December 29, 2008, post titled "51 Things We Know About Obama And None Of Them Are Important!" asks, "Where is his [Obama's] 'real birth certificate and selective service registration?" A March 23 post reads:
Dr Orly Taitz, both a lawyer and naturalized citizen has personally taken on the issue of Obama's eligibility. There is nothing wrong with her questioning this issue because Obama has literally hidden every evidence of his past. What has he hidden? All school records, passport records, employment records ( forget his stupid story about ice cream and an ice cream shop....I believe it is another one of Obama's lies.) and his REAL birth certificate.
Armstrong's site has also linked to various articles trafficking in birth certificate theories, including in a March 5 post that took excerpts from a WorldNetDaily.com article quoting a "U.S. soldier on active duty" who wrote that Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility. ... In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."
As Media Matters for America has noted, the Obama campaign released a copy of President Obama's birth certificate, posting it on the campaign's Fight the Smears website. It also reportedly provided the original document to FactCheck.org, whose staff concluded in an August 21, 2008, post that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship." The Hawaii Department of Health also repeatedly confirmed that the birth certificate on record with the state is valid and proves that Obama was born in the state of Hawaii.
Media Matters recently documented Fox News' purportedly bias-free Fox Nation website pushing the birth certificate conspiracy theory.
It's a shame that shillary supporters/teabagger terrorists are so afraid of truth and reality.
Amazing that Fox News allows these sort of crack pot conspiracy theories to be a mainstream part of their programs.
Washington
Adams
Jefferson
And so on, and so forth. They were born in the colonies of England. Yes? No?
Anyway, Obama was born in Hawaii.
Virginia, Massachusetts and Virginia... And Hawaii, of course, but no - ALL presidents were in fact born on US Soil.
John McCain was born on a military base in Panama. Does that mean he was not eligible to become President of the United States?
I never had any qualm with McCain being born in Panama. No big deal.
For example. Say a Gitmo prisoner killed a guard. Obviously, for the record, this would be a horrible thing and I hope it never happens. But if it did, under what law(s) would that prisoner be tried?
The Bush Administration specifically claimed that US laws do not apply to Gitmo because it is not "US soil." That's why the prison was built there.
By that "logic," John McCain can not be President of the United States.
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;"
The first President actually born in "The United States" was Martin van Buren.
The Birth Certificate thing must not be working at all for them because there is a new conspiracy going around that is based on the same theme of Obama not be duly elected and the real president. Now they are saying that Acorn rigged the election and ginned up Obama's numbers. this is the first I've heard this one. I heard it a couple times on Washington Journal this morning.
I've never heard it before or read it in comments anywhere.
I was going to say that I think we've discovered the actual identity of MissDee. There's certainly a similarity in mindset, at any rate.
Personally, I'm delighted to hear that this lady is a former Democrat. She raised our level considerably when she left it.
Innaccurate is more like it.
Larry Johnson was never affiliated with PUMA and "disenfranchised Democrat" is a nutter that has nothing to do with the mainstream PUMA coalition.
PUMA is a coalition of liberal Democrats who don't support Barack Obama.
If you want to find out the truth about PUMA check out The Confluence where it started.
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The notion that Obama's birth certificate is phony is so far off in lunatic fringe land that anybody who claims it is true can, and should, be written off as ridiculous.
...employment records ( forget his stupid story about ice cream and an ice cream shop....I believe it is another one of Obama's lies.)
Could the Ice Cream Shop Scandal be Obama's Watergate?
It's pretty sad that Fox Nooz has guest commentators who are a rung or two below even the wackiest con posters here.Except for the occasional rogue fruitcake, I think even the most gullible trolls have figured this one out.
I think the Republicans tried to steal the election with their tried-and-true method of tampering in a few key states. They just got overwhelmed by the number of Obama voters.
If they were ever Democrats at all, they were most likely modern versions of the old Dixiecrats, racist Southerners who had defaulted to the Democratic party because they were still pi$$ed off at Lincoln over the Civil War.
Most of those bigots have already been recruited by the Republican Southern Strategy, but there are still a few stragglers contaminating the fringes of the Democratic party. If they leave, I say good riddance.
Just playing Devil's advocate.
I think people can of course change. I have no doubt about it. I have seen it from an ex girlfriend of mine. At the time we were dating, it was early 2003, and we were both rampant anti Iraq war and we didn't like much of what Bush was doing. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, she's pro torture now, pro republican, and has done a complete 180 on her previous beliefs. Which, I don't have a problem with, and she considers herself a reformed democrat who "saw the light", whatever that means.
You can recognize an actual liberal by noting that they like some aspects of liberalism.
Watch to see if they offer a coherent explanation for their switch. From my experience, most often, they do not.
We have a 'former Democrat' in Boston, McPhee, who claims she was a former Democrat till she heard McCain speak. It seems, he said to the terrorists, we will follow you to hell, and she became a McCain supporter.
Of course, she was always playing the right wing talking points during last years' elections. Wright, Ayers etc.
Bottom line, if you are seeing, hearing, reading a former anyone in public media, be suspect.
Who took away her right to vote?
As far as the issue itself, I haven't seen a copy of my original birth certificate since I was about 8 (I'm 45 now) and I have never, ever, seen a selective service record. I recall vaguely signing up for that when I was 18 but I'll be damned if I have a copy of it. It's not exactly something to go about framing.
'First, we must strengthen our unique American civilization. Let me be clear, I am not a citizen of the world. I think that the entire concept is intellectual nonsense and stunningly dangerous. There is no world sovereignty, there is no world system of law - there is in fact no circumstance under which I would like to be a citizen of North Korea, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Cuba, or Russia. I am a citizen – I am a citizen of the United States of America.' - Newt Gingrich
Barack Obama is a citizen of the World.
His father was Kenyan and never became a U.S. citizen.
Obama has a birthright to Kenya/Great Britain and as a child became a citizen of Indonesia.
Our Forefathers feared foreign influence finding it self into our Government so they made it a requirement for the President to be a "natural born citizen".
The only way to prevent this foreign influence that our Forefathers feared would be to define a "natural born citizen" as someone born to two U.S. citizens.
In 1797 (a decade after the Constitution was adopted), the English translation of Emmerich de Vattel’s, Law of Nations was revised to include the term “natural born citizen”. The revised English translation helps to clarify the meaning of “natural born citizen”, as English-speaking people generally understood it towards the end of the 18th Century:
The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. … I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. (Vattel, Law of Nations, Book 1, Chapter 19)
I'm just wondering.
Aside from that, Obama has stated, categorically, time and again, the of course, first and foremost, he is a proud citizen of the United States. What's wrong with wanting to get along with everyone else in the world who are our friends?
Obama was never an Indonesian citizen, he always kept his American citizenship.
The only ties Obama has to Kenya is his biological father, who he had contact with about twice, his entire life, and he has some blood relatives there, that's it.
Obama was born in Hawaii, and therefore, refardless of his parentage, is a natural born US citizen.
Why don't you get that?
Thanks to MagnoliaLover, and all on this discussion !
P.S., who ever 'enfranchised' this loser Armstrong as a Democrat ? Someone must have, since she claims to now be 'disenfranchised'?
I've been a Democrat since JFK, and never received a franchise !
LoL
2) Your claim that Obama is anti-Isral and pro-muslim is also dead wrong. He is not continuing the disastrous policies of Bush, which is good for everybody, particularly in the United States. Remember, Bush and Co. did NOT keep us safe. The biggest security failure in U.S. history occurred on their watch. They disregarded their own intelligence organizations
Obama is getting it right.
I'm just curious who convinced you that we are a christian nation. You do realize we allow all religions and no religion here, right? If we were truly a christian nation then we would be a theocracy. There are theocracies in the world, we are just not one of them. We do not have ayatollahs running our political system. I guess if we are a christian nation our mullahs or ayatollahs would be who...Pat Robertson maybe?
Or are you just here to sell your book? What is it about Obama that you do not know but feel you should?