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Wash. Times reverses meaning of Obama's comments, falsely claiming he "admitted" doctors will bear brunt of spending cuts

June 16, 2009 1:27 pm ET
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SUMMARY: In a June 16 editorial, The Washington Times reversed the meaning of a comment President Obama made in his speech before the AMA, falsely claiming he "admitted" to the AMA that savings from health-care reform will be "coming off your backs."

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In a June 16 editorial, The Washington Times doctored a quote by President Obama in his speech before the American Medical Association (AMA) to support its false claim that Obama "admitted" to the AMA that savings from health-care reform will be "coming off your backs." The Times wrote of Obama's June 15 speech, "[T]he president reiterated his promise to save '$313 billion in Medicare and Medicaid spending.' His line was greeted by stony silence from the AMA. Mr. Obama understood why and even admitted, 'Today's Medicare rates will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs.' " In fact, Obama said: "Now, I know that there's some concern about a public option. Even within this organization there is healthy debate about it. In particular, I understand that you are concerned that today's Medicare rates, which many of you already feel are too low, will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs. And these are legitimate concerns, but they're ones, I believe, that can be overcome" (emphasis added).

Obama then said the following:

OBAMA: With reform, we will ensure that you are being reimbursed in a thoughtful way that's tied to patient outcomes, instead of relying on yearly negotiations about the Sustainable Growth Rate formula that's based on politics and the immediate state of the federal budget in any given year.

And I just want to point out the alternative to such reform is a world where health care costs grow at an unsustainable rate. And if you don't think that's going to threaten your reimbursements and the stability of our health care system, you haven't been paying attention. So the public option is not your enemy; it is your friend, I believe.

From Obama's June 15 remarks at the AMA conference:

OBAMA: You will have a chance, under what we've proposed, to take part in what we're calling a Health Insurance Exchange. This Exchange will allow you to one-stop shop for a health care plan, compare benefits and prices, and choose a plan that's best for you and your family -- the same way, by the way, that federal employees can do, from a postal worker to a member of Congress. You will have your choice of a number of plans that offer a few different packages, but every plan would offer an affordable, basic package. Again, this is for people who aren't happy with their current plan. If you like what you're getting, keep it. Nobody's forcing you to shift. But if you're not, this gives you some new options. And I believe one of these options needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market so that force -- so that we can force waste out of the system and keep the insurance companies honest.

Now, I know that there's some concern about a public option. Even within this organization there is healthy debate about it. In particular, I understand that you are concerned that today's Medicare rates, which many of you already feel are too low, will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs. And these are legitimate concerns, but they're ones, I believe, that can be overcome. As I stated earlier, the reforms we propose to reimbursement are to reward best practices, focus on patient care, not on the current piecework reimbursements. What we seek is more stability and a health care system that's on a sounder financial footing.

And the fact is these reforms need to take place regardless of whether there's a public option or not. With reform, we will ensure that you are being reimbursed in a thoughtful way that's tied to patient outcomes, instead of relying on yearly negotiations about the Sustainable Growth Rate formula that's based on politics and the immediate state of the federal budget in any given year.

And I just want to point out the alternative to such reform is a world where health care costs grow at an unsustainable rate. And if you don't think that's going to threaten your reimbursements and the stability of our health care system, you haven't been paying attention. So the public option is not your enemy; it is your friend, I believe.

From the June 16 Washington Times editorial:

Boos and awkward silences marked President Obama's speech at Monday's American Medical Association meeting in Chicago, and for good reason.

Not only did he refuse to support caps for malpractice suits, but he said his administration would undercut how much doctors make. In Monday's AMA address and another speech on Saturday, the president reiterated his promise to save "$313 billion in Medicare and Medicaid spending." His line was greeted by stony silence from the AMA. Mr. Obama understood why and even admitted, "Today's Medicare rates will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs."

The government is good at "saving" money by simply reimbursing Medicare and Medicaid providers for less than their cost. It is essentially a tax that the government imposes -- a tax that doctors and hospitals pay for staying in business. But this tax raises doctors' and hospitals' costs, forcing them to charge private patients more to compensate for the lost Medicare and Medicaid revenue.

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    • Author by mk3872 (June 16, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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      Well, of course, accuracy and quality journalism are not exactly the hallmarks of Moonie's conservative red meat rag.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 16, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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        I find it ironic that the right, which waxes hysterical about "one world government," reads a rag put out by a guy who intends, by his own admission, to lead just that. Not to mention that Sum Jung Moon owns the Bushes (at least the limbs the Saudis don't own.)
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      • Author by HughG (June 16, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
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        True, but sometimes their gall is absolutely astonishing.
        I'm sure people will read their take and goto work, telling everyone, "Barack said it!" The lie is halfway around the world before the truth has put its shoes on.
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    • Author by shaggles (June 16, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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      Wow. They didn't even bother putting the elipses in. That would've been something at least. I don't know how much Medicare and Medicaid pay but I do know they are not alone in paying less than the doctors standard rate for procedures. Insurance companies do the exact same thing. In fact every criticism I've heard of a public health care option has been something that insurance companies alreasy do.
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      • Author by molliebeatrice (June 16, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
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        Exactly! The issue/problem that the greedy insurance companies have is that now they will have competition with the Public Option. This competition will MAKE the insurance companies keep their rates COMPETITIVE with the public rates, or else lose their "customers". Good!
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    • Author by whattodo (June 16, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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      So, I am beginning to understand this website. The idea is to argue every little, meaningless slip of the tongue, or minute misquote. Hey Media Matters, why not address the fact that this administration attaches the word "CRISIS" to ever issue that they are intent on jamming down our throat? That seems like A BIG LIE. And something worth addressing. Now, in regards to the "healthcare crisis", let's discuss. So the Obama admin claims there is a crisis of 47 million uninsured. OK, some may say that is inflated, but, lets look at the numbers THAT EVERYONE AGREES to. Of the 47 million, 10-15 million are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Not immigrants, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. My parents were immigrants and to lump the two together is insulting to me and every immigrant who was law abiding and did the right thing. So, why should I be paying for illegal immigrants healthcare? And if this is passed, what is stopping EVERY latino from coming over the border? They aren't secured. At least North Korea knows how to protect their borders. Now, back to the numbers. Of the remaning roughly 35 million, about 7-10 million come from people who CHOOSE NOT to have insurance. These are people who make over 75,000 a year, and have decided not to pay for health insurance. That leaves about 25-28 million people (some say it is as low as 18 mil), who are poor, and receiving emergency care. So, I ask you lemmings, where is the "CRISIS"? And what is it about private insurance, in a capitalist society that is not working? If we simply put caps on lawsuits, it would all go away. But, you lemmings hear crisis and bow to this guy. It is quite scary. Soon it is going to be a crisis unless the government takes over everything. And before you start assaulting me, I am no Bush fan, and he spent alot as well. However, Bush went from 6-10 tril in 8 years. Obama is going from 10-20 tril in ONE YEAR. Do not say that over spending is overspending. There are degrees to overspending, and Obama is putting Bush to shame.
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      • Author by didi (June 16, 2009 5:08 pm ET)
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        Minute misquote?

        They changed the entire meaning of Obama's statement.

        And tell me what the Bushites pushed through without saying there was a crisis. Remember the WMDs? How bout forest fires that "necessitated" the need for the "Healthy" Forests Initiative? Remember that hit?

        Need more? How bout the crisis that they solved by allowing the federal government into Terri Schiavo's end of life decision?
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      • Author by sluggo (June 16, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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        ...simply put caps on lawsuits and it would all go away...


        Magical thinking.

        Try a few Facts.


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      • Author by solon (June 16, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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        Your delusions are impressive
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      • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 16, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
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        I'd just like to say that while I favor much stricter immigration control and severe controls on benefits/services available to those who aren't citizens, illegal immigration is a completely separate issue to a public option.
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      • Author by Texas Aggie (June 16, 2009 8:38 pm ET)
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        Do you really want to know whattodo? Try thinking. Try getting your facts straight. Try being rational. It will take practice, apparently a lot of practice, but you can do it.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 17, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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        So, I am beginning to understand this website.
        You're not even on the same continent as understanding this website.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (June 17, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        whattodo:

        I am beginning to understand your thinking. When faced with reality that you don't like, you retreat to Republican talking points, make ridiculous claims that have no basis in fact, call people names, and bring up irrelevant things like illegal immigrants to bolster your "facts." And you think we should act like your commentary is legitimate because...
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (June 17, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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        whattodo wrote:
        At least North Korea knows how to protect their borders.

        That's right, people are falling all over themselves to get into North Korea. You're an idiot.

        whattodo also asks: Where is the crisis?
        How about all the bankruptcies caused by health care expenses by people who already have insurance? Please read up on it.
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      • Author by tjmccool2284 (June 17, 2009 2:18 pm ET)
           
        I know you just dumped your little screed and ran away and aren't interested in anything that would counter your paranoia, but have you ever considered that Canada, the UK, France etc. are able to cover everyone? They do that for half the cost of our system that doesn't cover everyone and overall they get better healthcare, life expectancy and less cost.
        The problems here include doctors who are paid a fee for service, and then book more patients, leading to more revenue. They aren't paid for outcomes which would reduce costs.
        Yes, tort reform would help but only if it's coupled with license reform. If a doctor loses a suit, he loses his license for a time.
        Pharmacy companies have gotten a windfall form ust Medicare Part D, thanks to GW and company.
        Insurers get to set prices and select patients, they have an incentive not to pay and to delay payment (cash flow anyone?) as well as refuse service.

        The public option may be a well-meaning attempt to start a process of reform, but it's a sop to insurers, doctors and drug companies. Single payer, now, is the only solution.

        Oh, and Obama is not increasing the national debt from 10T to 290T in one year. You have nothing right, not even that. Grow up.
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    • Author by sluggo (June 16, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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      So the Washington Times editorial staff has a problem with telling the truth when writing editorials. This was more than just a "minor slip" and clearly shows their active disregard for the truth.

      My question is why would anyone be convinced by reading an editorial written by people with such little regard for the truth?
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    • Author by bullwinkle (June 16, 2009 5:52 pm ET)
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      But this tax raises doctors' and hospitals' costs, forcing them to charge private patients more to compensate for the lost Medicare and Medicaid revenue.


      Um...pardon me, but isn't it a fact that 40% or more of what we pay for our insurance coverage RIGHT NOW goes to cover the costs of uninsured patients who come to the hospital ER, often having let their problem grow into a much more expensive treatment mode because they had no coverage?
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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (June 16, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
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      The legitimate concerns are going to be overcome because the public option will pay differently than medicare, lol.

      I actually believe we need pay per outcome vs. pay per test/procedure. It will cut into specialists pay (I'm an "OFYNAMG specialist, I order a billion tests for each patient and I make a brazillion bucks a year) but will likely raise the pay for general practitioners, which we are lacking of severely right now.

      It will probably force (although it will save them money) private insurance to pay the same way too, since I assume doctors won't be able to refuse the public option coverage.

      I would also favor deregulation of the private companies (in terms of what they offer and where they offer it, etc) after this occurs, so that they can decide how to be most competitive on the market.

      President Obama, please please please hire the best healthcare-industry CEO available to run this. It needs to be efficient, cost-effective, fast, and reliable...a failure like medicare or SS would be a disaster of epic preportions, and we could lose an entire generation of doctors in the process.
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    • Author by johnrod10 (June 16, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
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      That is what he said, isnt it? "Coming off your backs". Oh, but thats not what he meant when he said it. Kinda like when Glenn Beck said he "Didnt say anything like that" about the "FEMA camps" and everyone starting calling him a liar. What Krugman did to Beck by using a quote to change the entire meaning of what he said is exactly what the Times did to Obama here. The only differnce is, the idealogs dont have a problem when this dirty little trick when its done to a guy like Beck...OOPS...I think i may have broken the rules by pointing that out.
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      • Author by solon (June 17, 2009 2:01 am ET)
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        No it isnt what he said. He said it was a concern. I am concerned with anyone who thinks Beck is more than a nutbag hatemonger and a fool. Anyone who takes him seriously needs the help of a mental health professional. Seek help FAST.
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        • Author by johnrod10 (June 17, 2009 5:38 am ET)
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          He said, and I quote, "Coming of your backs". That IS what he said. What he MEANT when he said it is that this is a legitimate concern but it can be overcome. Now, the TIMES took the quote and twisted it, not taking into consideration what he meant when he said it. The point is, as MMFA has pointed out, you dont get to take a quote and paint a picture of somebody without taking into consideration what they MEANT when they said it...What do you think??
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 17, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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            He said, and I quote, "Coming of your backs".
            Actually, he didn't say that. You blew the quote. And, even if he did say that, you have taken four words, not even a complete sentence, and extrapolated an entire strawman universe out of it.

            Now, in your post, you said, and I quote, "is a". From that, You must mean that your post "is a" complete misunderstanding of every concept that was actually mentioned in the comment containing the snippet you pulled out at random to try and make a point you had no clue about.

            Wow. Making stuff up is much easier than research. Now I know why the neo-morons do it.
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            • Author by johnrod10 (June 17, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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              "He didn't say that"??? I copied and pasted directly from the MMFA article above! I'm not extrapolating anything. I pointed out the fact the TIMES article took those 4 words and spun them to change what the President actually meant when HE used them. I agree w/ MMFA. But, I also pointed out that Krugman did the same thing to Beck when he said "I didnt say anything like that" about the "FEMA camps". Krugman did to Beck what the TIMES did to Obama. It's as simple as that. Nothing made up. Sorry...
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (June 17, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
                   
                Holy crapola! Next time before you post, please read the entire quote:

                And these are legitimate concerns, but they're ones, I believe, that can be overcome"

                Simpleminded is no way to go through life, son.

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                • Author by johnrod10 (June 18, 2009 5:46 am ET)
                     
                  Fog, Maybe you should get a clue about what I'm talking about before responding with personal attacks. My point was that those four words, "Coming off your backs" were used by the Washington Times to twist what the President meant by leaving out the next part. If you would have read my entire post above, you would have seen this quote from me: "What he MEANT when he said it is that this is a legitimate concern but it can be overcome." Please dont make me correct you again, its very annoying. BTW, im not your son...
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (June 18, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
                       
                    Your post was quite confusing. I guess you need to explain yourself better as well as I need to read your posts 3 or 4 times to understand what you meant.

                    And feel free to correct me anytime. I'm not perfect.
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          • Author by solon (June 17, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
               
            I think he said THIS

            "Now, I know that there's some concern about a public option. Even within this organization there is healthy debate about it. In particular, I understand that you are concerned that today's Medicare rates, which many of you already feel are too low, will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs.

            So your quote was out of context. I also think Beck is an idiot, a hatemonger and in desperate need of a Haldol/Thorazine cocktail. The MMFA article on his show was not dishonest in the way your post was. Beck DID give legitimacy to the whole are there FEMA camp tinfoil hat nonsense. MMFA did NOT twist his words.
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      • Author by Brabantio (June 17, 2009 8:10 am ET)
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        BECK: They understand freedom. We don't even understand freedom anymore. We are a country that is headed towards socialism, totalitarianism, beyond your wildest imagination. I have to tell you, I'm doing a story tonight that I wanted to debunk these FEMA camps. I'm tired of hearing -- you know about them?

        STEVE DOOCY (co-host): Sure.

        BECK: I'm tired of hearing -- I wanted to debunk them. Well, we've now for several days done research on them. I can't debunk them. And we're going to carry the story tonight.

        KILMEADE: I don't know anything about them, so --

        BECK: It is -- it is our government. If you trust our government, it's fine. If you have any kind of fear that we might be headed towards a totalitarian state, look out, buckle up. There is something going on in our country that is -- ain't good.

        ----

        Krugman:"Here we have a network where, like it or not, millions of Americans get their news -- and give it daily airtime to a commentator who, among other things, warned viewers that FEMA might be building concentration camps of the Obama administration's "totalitarian" agenda." (all emphasis mine)

        I don't know how you can claim that he wasn't warning people that FEMA might be building these camps when he said that and when he had Ron Paul on talking about what a legitimate concern it was. Whether he said he personally believed it was happening or not, he's still giving an absurd story legitimacy. If he genuinely wanted to debunk the story, he shouldn't have mentioned it at all until he actually had the research done, as opposed to talking about how we're heading towards totalitarianism and then saying "I can't debunk them".
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    • Author by whattodo (June 17, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
         
      See, this is EXACTLY what I mean. People nitpick some (admittedly over the top) comments, however, they never addres the POINT!!! The main point of the post was that the 47 million that Obama uses to define his "CRISIS" are garbage. Why did I mention illegals in the post, BECAUSE HE INCLUDES ILLEGALS IN THE 47 Mil number. So, attack my comments, and accuse me of being a republican, I am not. I voted for Obama. Typcal liberals, they coninue to bring up Bush in responses they do not like, but, that has NOTHING to do with me. Bush was AWFUL. Has Bush set the bar for good and bad when defining a Presidency? God, I hope not. If so, I want to be President, I bet I would be defined as good as well. We need to get better. And in regards to mentioning other Government run health care programs. . . bad idea. Here is an interesting truth. Where are the most heart surgeries performed in the United States? You will never guess, so. . . .Buffalo. Why? Because everyone goes over the border for surgery, becasue it is bad in Canada. And, 90% of the population in Canada pays for additional care, above and beyone the basic program, because the basic program is awful. We do not need a government program. Nothing that the government does, is done well. Look at Medicare/Medicaid. It is a mess. What makes you think they will do this well. Let alone, WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR ILLEGALS HEALTHCARE? I am al for giving the porr healthcare, but, the numbers they have realeased are ridiculous. this program will bankrupt the country even more than it is.
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    • Author by johnrod10 (June 18, 2009 5:50 am ET)
         
      This is me giving myself 2 thumbs up.
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