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Media reports on polling reinforce public's view of deficit, rather than informing it

June 18, 2009 8:06 pm ET

SUMMARY: Media reports on polls indicating public concern over the federal budget deficit did not report the view among prominent economists that the government's response to recession should be spending and not deficit reduction.

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Recent reports by The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, CBS, and NBC on their polls indicating public concern over the federal budget deficit did not report the view among prominent economists that the government's response to recession should be spending and not deficit reduction. Indeed, Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman, among others, attributes the reversal of the economic recovery under way during the New Deal to pressure on President Franklin D. Roosevelt to balance the budget. Rather than note that many economists dispute the notion that the government's top priority now should be reducing the deficit, these media outlets reported only the public's fear and concern on the subject. And given their failure even to mention that prominent economists do not share the public's view on economic priorities, it follows that they made no mention of the media's role in creating this public perception as well as their role now in reinforcing it through their flawed reporting.

In a February 15 op-ed, economist Mark Zandi dismissed concerns about the increased deficit spending needed to finance the stimulus package, arguing instead that the package was "too small":

There are concerns that the stimulus plan's $789 billion price tag is too large. To pay for it we will have to borrow the money, adding significantly to the government's debt load. But without a stimulus, the depression would undermine tax revenue and fuel more government spending, producing even larger deficits and debt burdens.

It is fortunate that we are still the global economy's triple-A credit; even though this calamity began in the United States, global investors still prefer the safety of U.S. Treasury bonds. We will thus be able to borrow the money at record-low interest rates.

Indeed, my most significant criticism of the current stimulus plan is that it is too small.

Our struggling economy will produce nearly $1 trillion less than it is capable of this year and will underperform again by at least as much in 2010. The $789 billion in spending and tax cuts to be distributed over those two years is not going to fill this expected hole in the economy. I would thus not be surprised if policymakers are forced to consider a second stimulus plan soon.

Nonetheless, when combined with other aggressive policy steps, including efforts to shore up the financial system and stem foreclosures, this fiscal-stimulus plan will go a long way toward relieving the current economic crisis.

Media Matters for America has written extensively about the media's advancement of conservative views on the economy and attacks on progressives through their flawed coverage of the recession and efforts to address it. The reporting of the poll questions offers further examples:

  • On June 18, the Journal reported that Obama "faces new concerns among the American public about the budget deficit and government intervention in the economy" and that "[a] solid majority -- 58% -- said that the president and Congress should focus on keeping the budget deficit down, even if takes longer for the economy to recover." The Journal added that the "results come after weeks of Republican hammering of Mr. Obama for spending too much" -- an argument, according to the Journal, that appears "to be resonating with some voters" -- and that "[t]he president and his advisers appear to be aware of the peril they face over the deficit." Yet the Journal did not report that prominent economists view the recession and job loss as a far more immediate problem than the deficit and stress that spending -- not deficit reduction -- in the short run is what is necessary to turn the economy around.
  • The previous night, Chuck Todd discussed the NBC/Journal poll results on NBC's Nightly News and said: "[T]he honeymoon's coming to an end for President Obama, but it's not personal, it's professional, as now the public appears to be judging the president on some of his actions. And right now, there's a growing concern about the budget deficit." He later added, "A substantial majority, 58 percent, say the government should focus more on controlling the budget deficit than on boosting the economy." While commenting on what the poll might signify for Obama, at no point did Todd note that many economists disagree with the view by a majority of respondents that the deficit should be a higher priority than "boosting the economy."
  • Also on June 17, Harry Smith reported on the CBS Evening News that "there are questions about some of [Obama's] economic ideas, according to the CBS News/New York Times poll out tonight." Smith added, "60 percent said the president has no plan for dealing with the skyrocketing deficit," but did not provide the view of economists that the deficit should not be the chief concern in the short term.
  • Similarly, a June 17 Times article reinforced the poll results by saying they present a problem for Obama rather than providing the view of economists that the deficit should not be the chief concern in the short term. The Times cited economists only to report that "the towering federal budget deficit ... is expected to push the national debt to levels that many economists say could threaten the economy's long-term vitality." The Times reported:" As Mr. Obama finishes his fifth month in office and assumes greater ownership of the problems he inherited, Americans are alarmed by the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been doled out to boost the economy. A majority said the government should instead focus on reducing the federal deficit."

Responding to the poll results, Salon.com's Andrew Leonard made a similar point, noting the prevalence of deficit-based attacks made by conservatives. Leonard wrote that attacks by conservatives on Obama over his "big spending" -- rather than the views by prominent economists about the need for spending during a recession -- seem to be "having an effect," as evidenced by the poll numbers:

Keynesians everywhere are wincing. Deficit reduction during an economic contraction, they will argue, runs the risk of deepening the contraction, causing greater human suffering, and prolonging the point at which the economy starts to recover. That's what happened in 1929, and we really don't want to go there again. There's also a good chance that a fiscal austerity regime could, in the long run, even make future deficits bigger -- because an even weaker economy means less tax revenue and greater social welfare spending (if the government continues to do things like pay for unemployment benefits.)

Our best evidence for this, say the Keynesians, comes from both the outset of the Great Depression, and midway through Roosevelt's second term, in 1937, when the president gave in to deficit hawks and attempted to rein in government spending, a move that is widely seen as crippling the recovery that had at long last gotten under way.

To most Americans, however, that's ancient history, and it's not the kind of thing you hear too often on the cable news talk shows. What you do hear, every single day, from every Republican in Congress and every right-wing pundit, is an unceasing reiteration of rabid concern about Obama's big spending. The poll numbers would seem to indicate that GOP talking-points discipline is having an effect. (Although the data is contradictory, as the polling also shows that most Americans blame the Bush administration for the deficit, and not Obama.)

As Media Matters documented, during the debate over the economic stimulus plan, numerous conservative media figures attacked Obama by comparing his spending proposals to those of the New Deal and claiming that the New Deal was ineffective or harmful. But according to several prominent economists, Roosevelt did not go far enough to end the crisis and his attempts to balance the budget hindered recovery.

From the New York Times/CBS poll conducted June 12-16:

Which comes closer to your own view? The federal government should spend money to stimulate the national economy, even if it means increasing the budget deficit, OR The federal government should NOT spend money to stimulate the national economy and should instead focus on reducing the budget deficit.

Stimulate the economy: 41
Reduce budget deficit: 52
DK/NA: 7

So far, do you think the Obama Administration has developed a clear plan for dealing with the current budget deficit, or hasn't it developed one yet?

Has developed clear plan: 30
Has not developed clear plan: 60
DK/NA: 10

From the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll conducted June 12-15:

Which of the following two statements comes closer to your point of view?

Statement A: The President and the Congress should worry more about boosting the economy even though it may mean larger budget deficits now and in the future.
Statement B: The President and the Congress should worry more about keeping the budget deficit down, even though it may mean it will take longer for the economy to recover.

Statement A/Worry more about boosting the economy: 35
Statement B
/Worry more about keeping budget deficit down: 58
Depends (VOL): 2
Not sure: 5

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    • Author by the Grey Path (June 18, 2009 11:53 pm ET)
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      Ok, let's do a little math:

      Stimulus spending of $789b - budget cuts of $789b = zero stimulus
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (June 19, 2009 12:27 am ET)
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      Pretty much, ever since the income tax was instituted, we have operated with unbalanced budgets, usually with outgo exceeding income. Now the chickens are coming home to roost, so to speak, both in the private and public sectors. There has never been a reality-based plan to reduce the national debt, to operate on a long term basis with a balanced budget. We see the effects of that in the housing market, the manufacturing market, the transportation industry and others (on the private side). Who will "bail out" we the people when the national debt truly becomes unsustainable, especially in times like this when the situation is somewhat critical world wide? And yet we see more and more "demands" on governments on federal, state and local levels. And that is to be expected when more and more of us are not contributing to the solution (paying increased taxes, fees, etc). Runaway inflation, even if it is no worse that the late 70s/early 80s, in the next few years will devastate those baby boomers going into retirement. I remember the effects of 30+ years ago on my parents and a lot of my friends' parents and I do not look forward to that as my generation starts to retire. It is time (well past, in fact) to put some people in charge in our government who are more concerned about what will happen beyond the next election, just as we need to be concerned about leaders in the private sector who look only to this year's (and maybe next year's) performance bonuses rather than a long term vision for their company.
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      • Author by the Grey Path (June 19, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
           
        Keynesian policy requires, following the building of debt during a recession, that the debt be paid off during boom times. Reagan and Bush-43 failed to do so. So, now we're stuck.
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        • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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          In theory perhaps, but when we have "boom times" the money grubbing politicians can't keep their hands off of it. So they spend it up the wazoo and irresponsibly dismiss the fact that the "boom times" will eventually wane and the piper needs to be paid. That is the inherent problem with politicians, primarily liberal ones, and why taxes need to be low and government small and efficient - these politicians can't police themselves, so we need to do it by cutting them off.
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          • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
               
            History (Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush) doesn't support your contention that it's primarily liberals who are irresponsible with the deficit.
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            • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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              I didn't say the deficit, I was responding to how the debt is supposed to be paid off during booming economic times by allocating money to do just that. Politicians don't do it, because paying off the debt is not sexy - and it doesn't satisfy lobbyists or usually buy votes through massive appropriations and spending.
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              • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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                Still, it's not primarily liberals. And Clinton at least got things moving in the right direction.
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                • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 4:11 pm ET)
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                  Granted, the Bush administration the Republican controlled Congress spent plenty, so they deserve no pass at all. But generally speaking, it's liberals who want more money from taxpayers to spend as they see fit.

                  My point was the only way to quell their voracious appetite for our money, I don't care who they are or what party they belong to, is to shrink government and the amount of money they take in - so it will force them to be better stewards of it. Give them more, they will get drunk on it and waste more. It's human nature, especially for a politician.
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                  • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 5:20 pm ET)
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                    I agree that we need to be vigilant to stop wasteful spending. Of course, people differ on what they consider wasteful.

                    For example, conservatives might oppose spending that provides health care to poor children or that funds research in alternative energy, whereas liberals might think that it provides a good value for the dollar and could actually save money in the long run.

                    By the same token, conservatives might think it is worthwhile to spend money on a corporate tax cut or an expensive missile defense system that liberals consider a boondoggle.

                    Without any supporting evidence, I think it is unfair to say that liberals are more prone to waste money than conservatives. And I don't think it gets us anywhere. It might be better to just discuss specific spending that you think is wasteful than to make sweeping generalizations.
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                    • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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                      I don't disagree with you, and in light of the Bush administration perhaps I was unfairly generalizing. But I wasn't speaking of Democrats and Republicans, I was talking about liberals and conservatives, ok, I was generalizing. But I am hardly the only one around here to make blanket assertions where specifics might be more productive, so your point is well taken.

                      I am speaking of politicians who just want more and more to fund this and that, especially in tough economic times when we don't have anymore to give. You cannot continue to punish those with means, otherwise you just shrink the pool and end up with those who truly cannot afford anymore money to be taxed away from them. Then what do you have? My point is there is plenty of money, or there should be if spent wisely and judiciously. If we open our wallets and allow their greedy hands to take more, the responsibility and care that comes with it vanishes. We have to say enough is enough and demand we live within our means.

                      My generalizations went to the historical habits of those who want larger government, which demands more money to run, vs. those who want smaller government. That was where I was coming from.
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                      • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
                           
                        You are certainly not alone in making generalizations -- we all do it.

                        Speaking generally on this issue, I see it as a truly bipartisan problem that arises out of the way we finance and run campaigns. I'd like to see a time when any politician who didn't take public financing was shunned by voters. We need protection on the back end too, to keep elected officials from selling us out and cashing in after they leave office.

                        I also believe that when Republican leaders talk about smaller government, they're just giving lip service. (I know there are plenty of Democratic leaders who are well practiced in that art also).
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              • Author by steeve (June 19, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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                "paying off the debt is not sexy"

                Hilarious. In 2000, Gore wanted to pay off the debt. Bush wanted to give the money back to YOU!!

                Which one did you vote for?
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                • Author by Craig (June 20, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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                  Good question. Was RO's vote was bought with promises of a big tax cut?
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    • Author by twseattle (June 19, 2009 2:57 am ET)
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      When discussing budget deficits, it is never brought up anymore that Obama undid the Bush administration's tactic of keeping war spending seperate. While they should be applauded for the increase in honesty, the only thing reporters bother to look at is the big scary number. A much better way to look at it would be the percentage difference from continuing Bush policies vs. Obama's budgets. If liberal media bias really existed, we'd be hearing The war spending being kept off budget 'the republican 400 billion dollar lie.'.
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    • Author by plantsman752 (June 19, 2009 5:40 am ET)
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      I tried to contact MSNBC by email to note a responsibility on their part to provide context for instruction on how to meet current economic challenges by citing the history of the Great Depression -- but GE apparently wants no feedback on its hosts cheering on the historical ignorance of their audience, rather than providing them the most relevant historical parallels.
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    • Author by bruce1ace (June 19, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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      The President himself is saying that the current deficits are unsustainable. Good grief.
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      • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
           
        Yes, and he knows we need to get the economy going so that we can do something about them.
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      • Author by steeve (June 19, 2009 7:08 pm ET)
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        What literally nobody realizes except me and Clinton (not Obama, not Krugman, not MMFA) is that you can balance the budget while expanding the economy by jacking up tax rates on the rich.

        They've been stockpiling for 30 years. Time for withdrawals.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (June 19, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
         
      OK, here we go again. The media always follows the motto "If it bleeds it leads". Needless to say that this type of reporting falls into that heading. "Polls show Americans afraid of deficit". Well duh. Of course we don't want a high deficit, who would. Unfortunately we are in a recession, in order to get out you have to stimulate the economy somehow. Intelligent disscussions of this fact is not going to get much, if any, air time. It is easier, and, commmands much better attention, to have a screaming headline that says the world is going to end, rather than to have an in depth discussion of what is happening, why it is happening, and what needs to be done.
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    • Author by Token (June 19, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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      Wait a second here. You mean the media reported on what the people actually think, without telling them what they are supposed to think? What a scandal! How DARE they not recite the left's talking points and force the unthinking public to accept them!
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      • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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        Exactly. And how dare now they include Paul Krugman's tutoring lessons to us all in every story about the economy and the deficit, shameful it is.
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        • Author by the Grey Path (June 19, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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          Include the opinions of a Nobel prize winner? Guess it's better to promote Grover Norquist, the guy who prompted Bush's policy of bakrupting the government.
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          • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
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            If Milton Friedman, another Nobel prize winner, were alive today I am sure you would jump for joy with his opinions as well, or maybe not.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (June 19, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
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              You have obviously missed the Reagan years. republicans talk about spending less but only for social programs, Reagan, Bush and almost every Republican spent hautily while cutting and gutting almost every program that would make life easier for the working man. Their is hardly any mention of the poor in our discourse,almost as if they don't exist. The tax burden has been shifting steadily onto the backs of the working man and the working poor, with the rich paying less and finding more loop-holes and shelters to hide their money that they earned on the backs of the working class in the first place.the middle and lower classes have not seen their situation improve in the last 20yrs. and your belief in small government???? What the hell does that mean anyway? Please right on do me a favor and explain what you mean by small government?
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              • Author by right ON (June 19, 2009 6:23 pm ET)
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                Don't give me that left wing baloney mythical talking point out and out lie about the tax burden. Who do you think pays the majority of the taxes in this country? Look it up, because the top percent pay over 50% of them. Besides, if you didn't have the rich boogeymen to go after, where would you aim your arrows, you need them to make yourself look relevant, it's not hard to figure.

                Small government means efficient government. Cut the waste from every single expenditure, period. Start there.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (June 19, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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                  yOU CAn rant and rave all you want define small government is what I asked yet come back with some BS about the rich. Define small government and show we what you meaN?
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                • Author by congero6189599 (June 19, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
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                  Small government means effiecient government? What is small government i ask again? Talking about mythology you seem to be a firm believer. Show me your small government,what are you talking about? Give me a historical example, something. All you've written so far is some drivel about the rich and cutting every expenditure which is utterly ridiculous. Your the one that need to look at the tax burden and the re-writing of the tax code to shift the burden more onto the backs of the working man! How about the taxing of unemployment benefits is that not a shift. What are you complaining about the tax cut for families making under $250,000/yr.? You feel the rich are being burdened by an increase of 3% in their taxes? I'll repeat define small government and give me an example of it! I believe you have no idea what your talking about, just want to whine about your taxes being too high.
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                • Author by solon (June 21, 2009 7:20 pm ET)
                     
                  Small gov means efficient gov is a non sequitur. It means no such thing. There is no reason it would. That is nothing but a talking point that assumes facts not in evidence and wishing wont make it so
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            • Author by the Grey Path (June 19, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
                 
              Supply side should have worked, but it wasn't used to merely jump start the economy, it became long-term philosophy. The republicans, starting with Reagan, have no understanding of balance.

              Keynes was and remains right.
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          • Author by cArn (June 19, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
               
            Just remember that Nobel Prize winning economists like Edward Prescott disagree with Krugman and Obama
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            • Author by the Grey Path (June 19, 2009 6:38 pm ET)
                 
              The Chicago School is largely to blame for this mess
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              • Author by cArn (June 19, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
                   
                But Edward Prescott and other right-leaning economists have also won the Nobel Prize, which was your original contention (i.e. Include the opinions of a Nobel prize winner?). Now your shifting the goal posts.
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                • Author by steeve (June 19, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
                     
                  Sure, do Prescott and Krugman both. It'd be what's known as "balanced reporting".

                  However, I don't like balanced reporting when one of the sides has little chance of being right. Does Prescott have a decent chance of being right? Has he been wrong for 80% of his life like your typical conservative blowhard?
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      • Author by Craig (June 19, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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        Coverage of important and complex issues should be include the views of those who are knowledgeable about them.
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      • Author by cArn (June 19, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
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        How DARE they not recite the left's talking points and force the unthinking public to accept them!

        Force? Nice strawman. That's not what this piece is saying at all, and you know it.
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    • Author by joebhed (June 19, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
         
      The reason there is little agreement on what to do, or perhaps what NOT to do, is this that there is ample evidence on both sides that what is being proposed will not work. And both sides are correct. Can we say insolvent?

      It's not that fiscal or tax policy has failed, and it's not that the the economy is suffering from an overload of SIV-poisoning.

      The CAUSE of the problem is the debt-money system of the fractional reserve bankers at the Federal Reserve.
      It is of a failed, unscientific, unsustainable variety that has run out of tricks. THAT debt-money system is what is insolvent.

      Look at the money system separate from the economy.
      It is THE MONEY SYSTEM that is supposed to provide the means of exchange, and there ain't enough MEANS to to the exchanges that we all need. You can't squeeze blood from a rock.
      The debt-money system is broke.
      It is broken.

      None of the progressive or conservative economists really have a clue that we can't deal with money-system insolvency without starting over. And the sooner we can begin developing an exit strategy from the debt-money system, the sooner our balance sheet will start to have some equity to offset all the debt you have when ALL money is created and comes into being as a debt.

      An exit strategy is needed to smooth the transition to a debt-free money system.
      Seems kind of important.
      Who is working on that?
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (June 19, 2009 7:52 pm ET)
         
      The problem with "jump starting" the economy in down times is that it is often done by creating programs that do not end either on the Federal level or by providing monies to the states to do so. Many of FDRs programs ended (WPA, NRA as examples) Others (TVA, BPA) built infrastructure that in theory should pay for itself (whether they do or not is subject for another time). Will a subsidy to AMTRAK make AMTRAK at least a break even proposition in the future? (just an example). Road repairs, water/wastewater system upgrades should provide some economic growth in the future and may be recouped to an extent in user fees, etc). Hiring more government workers, while providing some short term gain due to $ turnover in the economy, will result in higher taxes, fees (or higher unemployment) when the stimulus funds expire.
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      • Author by solon (June 21, 2009 7:23 pm ET)
           
        That is a good point. I definitly want to see the stimulus spent in ways that invest in America. As for Amtrak virtually every industrial government in the world subsidizes their mass transit.
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