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Media conservatives target the 2010 census, encourage audience not to complete forms

June 25, 2009 9:53 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Conservative media figures and outlets have encouraged their audiences not to complete the 2010 U.S. census, stated that they would not complete it -- which would constitute a violation of the law -- or stated that the questions included in the survey are "unconstitutional."

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Over the past months, several conservative media figures and outlets have encouraged their audiences not to complete the 2010 U.S. census, approvingly cited those who had decided not to complete it, stated that they would not complete it -- which would constitute a violation of the law -- or stated that the questions included in the survey are "unconstitutional." Those media figures have often cited the participation of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in the recruitment of workers who will collect data as a reason to be wary of the census. Media Matters for America has previously documented instances in which media figures spread falsehoods about the U.S. census and scapegoated ACORN in reporting on major news stories.

According to the website of the U.S. Census Bureau:

Respondents are required to answer all questions on the American Community Survey (ACS) to the best of their ability. Response to this and other Census surveys is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13, Chapter 7, United States Code). This chapter also contains information regarding offenses and possible penalties. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000.

Examples of conservative media figures and outlets attacking the census include:

  • During a June 25 interview with Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) on his Fox News show, Glenn Beck stated that "there's a lot of people that are concerned" with the census "because they don't want to fill it out. They're not comfortable with ACORN members coming to find out all this information. They don't want to give the government all this kind of information." After noting the fine for failure to fill out census forms and stating that no one had ever received that fine, he asked Bachmann, "What are the odds that they are going to impose that?" He later added that he's "considered not filling it out."
  • On the June 24 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck, guest host Judge Andrew Napolitano stated that "when people ask me what the law is, what do they have to tell the census taker, I tell them, simply this: how many people live in that house, and nothing else. It's none of the government's business when they were born, what their race is, or what they earn." Responding to Rep. Jason Chaffetz's (R-UT) description of legislation he intends to introduce to have postal workers conduct the 2010 census, Napolitano stated, "I hope this passes, because it's going to save us a lot of money. And for all of its faults in the post office, it's certainly a lot more honest than ACORN."
  • On the June 22 broadcast of Clear Channel's The War Room with Quinn & Rose, a caller stated that he wouldn't fill out the census because ACORN workers would be involved in "collecting the information." Co-host Rose Tennent stated in response that the caller had made "an excellent point." She went on to note that Bachmann reportedly said that she does not intend to complete the census and stated: "ACORN being recruited by Obama for a mission -- that is so frightening." After listing several questions included in the census, she added that "it's just so intrusive. And you're right. I mean, there's the risk of identity theft and all kinds of things. I'm just -- it scares me to think that these thugs are getting this information from us."
  • On the June 19 broadcast of his radio show, G. Gordon Liddy praised Bachmann's refusal to complete the census, stating:

Mrs. Bachmann says she's worried about the involvement of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now, in next year's census. Well, good for Mrs. Bachmann. And if they've passed, as apparently they have, a statute saying they can fine you $5,000 if you don't answer questions like, "You got any guns in the house?" and, you know, other intrusive stuff like that, well, I hope that she refuses, and I hope that they charge her, and then I hope she takes that course -- that thing right up to the Supreme Court of the United States and gets this question resolved.

  • On June 18, using the headline "What Kind of Info Is ACORN Gathering for Census?" The Fox Nation linked to a June 18 Washington Times article reporting that Bachmann stated "she will not fill out anything more than the number of people in her household" for the 2010 census because "the questions have become 'very intricate, very personal' " and because "she feared ACORN."
  • In a May 26 New York Post column headlined "Uncle Sam's way-too-nosy-survey," former Bush administration speechwriter Meghan Clyne wrote that the ACS supplement is "forcing Americans to disclose sensitive information about their finances, health and lifestyles." Clyne added that while completing the census is mandatory, "[t]he good news is that I called the help number on my form and a Census representative finally conceded that the government was unlikely to pursue punishment if I didn't respond, saying it would be 'a waste of time and money.' Maybe that's enough to risk telling the government what to do with its survey."
  • In an interview with Clyne on the May 22 edition of Fox News show, Beck called the questions included in the ACS "unconstitutional," stating, "I mean, I'll tell you how many people live in my house. I don't think I need to tell you this. This is unconstitutional; I don't think I need to tell you all of this."
  • On the May 20 edition of his radio show, Neal Boortz told a caller, "I received a census form the other day asking me a whole bunch of questions about my small business. I threw it in the trash. I'm not going to answer it. None of their damn business." He later added that "the federal government and the state government, they have a legitimate reason for knowing how many people live where. They have no legitimate reason for knowing anything else. The rest of the information is -- most of the rest of the information is designed to help the government steal from you in order to pass off your property to the moochers. They're looters."

From the June 24 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

NAPOLITANO: All right. It's hard to have a vote of confidence in the 2010 census when controversial groups like ACORN are recruiting headhunters. But a freshman lawmaker says he's found a way to put confidence back into the census count while also helping our postal service dig its way out of a budget deficit. Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz is here with his solution.

[...]

NAPOLITANO: All right. So, under your proposal, would the postman or postwoman simply knock on your door and say, "How many people live in this house?" Or would they give you that four- or five- or 10- or 20-page form and ask you how many showers you have and how many bathrooms and what the educational level and income level is of the people living there and how many times you go to church during the week?

CHAFFETZ: It's not as comprehensive as the one you just articulated. But it's the basic information about the age, the number of members in that household, the race, when they were born, so we can better understand what's happening within the population as a whole. So, it's actually a fairly quick form, but, you know, if there are multiple members of your family, it's intended to be finding out what each and every member -- how old they are and what race and background they are.

NAPOLITANO: All right. I got to tell you, I hope this passes, because it's going to save us a lot of money. And for all of its faults in the post office, it's certainly a lot more honest than ACORN. But when people --

CHAFFETZ: Exactly.

NAPOLITANO: -- ask me what the law is, what do they have to tell the census taker, I tell them, simply this: how many people live in that house, and nothing else. It's none of the government's business when they were born, what their race is, or what they earn.

From the June 19 broadcast of Radio America's The G. Gordon Liddy Show:

LIDDY: Mrs. Bachmann says she's worried about the involvement of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now, in next year's census. Well, good for Mrs. Bachmann. And if they've passed, as apparently they have, a statute saying they can fine you $5,000 if you don't answer questions like, "You got any guns in the house?" and, you know, other intrusive stuff like that, well, I hope that she refuses, and I hope that they charge her, and then I hope she takes that course -- that thing right up to the Supreme Court of the United States and gets this question resolved.

From the May 20 broadcast of Cox Radio Syndications' The Neal Boortz Show:

BOORTZ: Laurie is in Orlando. Hi there. Laurie?

CALLER: Yeah, sorry, sorry. I need your legal libertarian insight, please.

BOORTZ: Oh, I don't give legal advice because I'm actually not licensed to practice law right now.

CALLER: I need your good sense then.

BOORTZ: Oh, OK.

CALLER: OK. I have been chosen to take the American --

BOORTZ: You know, often those two have nothing to do with each other.

CALLER: I'm fully aware. I have been chosen to take the American Community Survey.

BOORTZ: Yeah.

CALLER: The invasive census that asks about income, mortgage payment, indoor plumbing, how many children.

BOORTZ: Yeah.

CALLER: Et cetera. I've thrown the papers away, but now they're banging on my door.

BOORTZ: Is that the noise I hear in the background?

CALLER: That's my 4-year-old.

BOORTZ: Oh, I see.

CALLER: Life goes on.

BOORTZ: Ah, yes.

CALLER: Sorry. My husband, who's out of town, and me with the two children says, "Let them arrest you," which -- he may have other reasons for that. But what do I do? Do I have to?

BOORTZ: OK. I can only tell you what I would do.

CALLER: OK.

BOORTZ: OK? I received a census -- you see, I own a small business. I received a census form the other day asking me a whole bunch of questions about my small business. I threw it in the trash. I'm not going to answer it.

CALLER: Right.

BOORTZ: None of their damn business.

CALLER: Right.

BOORTZ: But I am not giving you advice.

CALLER: I understand.

BOORTZ: My advice to you -- and to all of my listeners -- is always: Obey the law. And the law says you have to answer this stuff. OK? But, if I have received the American Community Survey and I ref-- I personally refuse to respond to it, and once every 10 years I will respond to the census, but the only information I will give them is the number of adults who live in my household and that -- or the number of people -- doesn't, you know -- the number of people who live in my household, and that is it.

And they've knocked on my door. And they've come to my door with badges. And they've come to my door and told me I could be fined. They've come to my door and they've told me that I am breaking the law. And I look at them and I say, "Two adults live here. That is all the information I will voluntarily give you. Waterboard me if you want to learn any more." But that's it.

Now, that is what I would do. But insofar as you are concerned -- you have children, blah blah, blah blah. It's -- you know, obey the law, Laurie.

CALLER: OK.

BOORTZ: OK?

CALLER: Thank you.

BOORTZ: OK.

CALLER: Bye.

BOORTZ: And good luck to you. I'm just -- I'm -- it is nobody's business but mine and somebody with a sense of urgency as to how many flush toilets I have in my house. Nobody's business.

And the Census Bureau? They just -- hey, in my household? Two adults. That's it. You need any more information? Ask my neighbors.

[...]

BOORTZ: So, the federal government and the state government, they have a legitimate reason for knowing how many people live where. They have no legitimate reason for knowing anything else. The rest of the information is -- most of the rest of the information is designed to help the government steal from you in order to pass off your property to the moochers. They're looters.

And if somebody comes to my -- if a burglar came to your house, are you going to show him where the silverware is? Maybe you will if he pulls out a gun. But if he stands at your front door and says, "Look, I'm going to burglarize your house on April the 15th. I need some information from you that'll help me get that done. How much gold do you have? How much silver do you have? Where is it stored? Thank you very much for providing that information to me. We'll be back on April the 15th to tell you how much of your loot you have to hand over to us." No.

Now, you people, you abide by the law. The looters have passed laws that say you have to help them. But I'm just fed up with it, and that ain't me. That ain't me.

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    • Author by slarabee1753 (June 25, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
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      So what does the GOP gain by attempting to keep their constituents from filling out the survey.

      I must admit I do not yet have a full grasp of the affect of surveys on the election process.

      TIA for any help understanding this.
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    • Author by vwcat (June 25, 2009 10:41 pm ET)
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      I understand that the conservative propagandists are trying to get their followers not to comply and use the boogeyman of Acorn as the reason. Manipulation purposes and all.
      But, what I don't get is the real reason they are telling people not to comply in the first place. Why.
      I don't think I have seen why.
      What is behind the whole scam in the first place.
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      • Author by drmcnugget (June 25, 2009 11:28 pm ET)
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        I'm interested in that question too. What do Conservatives stand to benefit from not participating in the Census? I get that they don't like ACORN, but I feel like there must be more. I'm not old enough to have been paying attention to the previous Census -- were conservatives this obstinate about the Census then? Or is this just an "Obama won so we're not playing!" thing? Is it really so immature a position that they love government when a Republican is President but not when a Democrat is?

        Hoping for some enlightenment.
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        • Author by RIGHT WING (June 27, 2009 12:37 am ET)
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          Why should I give the government what time I go to work in the morning by way of ACORN? It's no body's business. Why not ask if they are legally in the country.
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      • Author by fawltylogic (June 26, 2009 3:31 am ET)
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        These statistics (about living conditions etc) are essential to the budgeting and operations of various government agencies. They are used as a basis for virtually everything they do, since it's in many cases the only way to have some concrete idea about which needs are out there, instead of just guessing.

        The right-wingers do not want an effective government. They want an inefficient government that they can then criticize. Not participating in the census is for them a way to sabotage the operation of government, which is why they do it.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 26, 2009 9:29 am ET)
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          But it will only sabotage their own districts! That's the beautiful insanity of the whole thing! It will only result in their own underrepresentation, and in more money and more power going to oppostion districts and the opposition party. It's amazing. They are so ignorant that they're actually going out of their way to SCREW THEMSELVES. Personally? I hope it works!
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          • Author by fawltylogic (June 26, 2009 10:18 am ET)
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            I'm not talking about redistricting at all. True, it will work against them in that respect, but that's not what the long form census is about.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (June 26, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
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            You state it will result in their underrepresentation. That could only occur if the form asks for political affiliation. If the survey form does ask for political affiliation, I would refuse to fill it out, for obvious reasons!
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            • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (June 26, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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              It will result in underrepresentation. That is a general underrepresentation of people in that area which could lead to lots of consequences that could impact these very nutty cons (I know, a redundancy).
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              • Author by Nightflyer28 (June 27, 2009 8:38 am ET)
                   
                Hmmmm.... Neocons complain about ineffective government; encourage their listeners not to fill out census docs, ensuring under-representation; people get steamed about not getting represented; get told that if they all vote GOP that'll change... Result? more people vote Republican.

                I wonder if these guys have a better idea of what they're doing than we think.
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            • Author by solon (June 26, 2009 6:35 pm ET)
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              How would asking for political affiliation questions result in under representation? You didnt really think they apportion representatives based on who is a Dem and who is a Republican did you?
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          • Author by Paul A (June 28, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
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            Well, no one has ever accused a Republican of being an intellectual. Why do you think they buy the junk that the evangelical preachers, dressed like 70's used car salesmen, sell?
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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          What does ACORN have to do with this?

          Nothing...
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          • Author by shaggles (June 26, 2009 2:10 pm ET)
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            That's what I've been wondering too.
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          • Author by RIGHT WING (June 27, 2009 12:39 am ET)
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            Why is ACORN helping with the census gathering? They can't be trusted. Why not ask the postal service to do the census they already visit everyone's home and are government employees.
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      • Author by chris1795 (June 26, 2009 7:12 am ET)
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        Why are they doing this? Because it's what they do.

        It's not about the census; the ACORN involvement is just another excuse to throw more stuff against the wall to see what sticks. They know perfectly well that ACORN didn't steal the election (or try to), and they know that ACORN isn't collecting census data. But they know their audience and what it wants: red meat. Truth? They don't need no stinkin' truth.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 26, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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          Thing is, according to the US Census bureau, ACORN is not involved in taking census information. They have agreed to advertise that there will be jobs available for census takers, but ACORN is not involved in collection any of the census information.

          This is just another boogeyman being floated out there by the conservatives, which have nothing to fault ACORN for to begin with, other than they help disadvantaged communities stand up on their own, and use their constitutionally available rights. They seem to have a problem with empowered poor people.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (June 28, 2009 12:40 am ET)
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        The only possible explanation is that they are ignorant as to how not filling out proper information will reduce the number and weight of each vote. Voting districts will have to be redrawn after census results are in in order to equalize representation. If enough wingnuts avoid filling out the information, there will be a huge undercount and a redistricting will proceed, thus watering down the very vote these wingnuts tried to protect with their deception.
        Sad but true and I doubt they even know enough civics to know that their behavior will result in the need for redistricting that will redraw congressional districts to even the count. So I say, have at it guys. I am no longer interested in remaining a Republican for just these truly misinformed, stupid statements being thrown around so folks are confused about the census.
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    • Author by carlileb5935 (June 25, 2009 11:30 pm ET)
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      I think it's great if they avoid the Census.

      It means right wing White people will get undercounted, so maybe their Congressional districts will get absorbed into the cities.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (June 25, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
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        But wouldn't it be gerrymandered according to the GOP?
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        • Author by slarabee1753 (June 25, 2009 11:45 pm ET)
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          How would they justify that? I am totally confused by the process.
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        • Author by open_mind (June 26, 2009 1:10 am ET)
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          It could also change the number of districts in a state and therefore also electoral weight.
          This is the kind of rightwing stupidity I can support aggressively - not for myself of course. Maybe we can get our own "operation chaos" situation going. You just need to use some well placed reverse psychology at this point.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (June 26, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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          Ask Tom DeLay.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (June 26, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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            D*mn! Blew the punch line by not quoting the set-up. Above in reply to DAWUSS.
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      • Author by RIGHT WING (June 27, 2009 12:44 am ET)
           
        Yeah and the cnesus will ask your neigbors to report for you. That's what the Nazi's did also.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (June 25, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
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      We know they exist.

      Next issue.
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    • Author by chris1795 (June 26, 2009 7:03 am ET)
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      The piece mentions Fox Nation linking to the WashTimes article, but not the foaming-at-the-mouth, over-the-top response of many of those commenting on the Fox post. It's much worse than just not filling out the form; they completely blew a fuse. There were numerous very specific physical threats against census workers ("ANSWER THE DOOR WITH YOUR GUN IN YOUR HAND"). There were also a few posts boasting of action already taken (pre-census work has begun in some locations). There's a rundown of some of them here.

      If some poor census worker is attacked by pit bulls, or worse, Beck, Bachmann, and the rest will have much to answer for.
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    • Author by morrisray001 (June 26, 2009 8:54 am ET)
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      You missed a good opportunity to tell the world just how off base Fox News and for that matter and the repubicans really are. In this article you should have included the information about the republican party and their voter registeration efforts in California and the fact that their own company, "Young Poliical Majors (YPM)" is the only company or group convicted and I repreat convicted, of voter registeration fraud in the last election cycle. YPM's owner and founder, Mark Anthony Jacoby, just recently pled guilty to voter fraud in Los Angeles. He was charged with this last October, 2008.
      When you report something you should cover the whole thing - not just a part of it.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (June 26, 2009 9:48 pm ET)
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        Young Political Majors (YPM) must have worked with ACORN the way FoxNews Channel have been covering them over the past couple of months. Now we see why FoxNews Channel had been covering ACORN so much...Young Political Majors (YPM) "convicted" for voter registration fraud. Now we see FoxNews Channel logic. Hmmm.
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    • Author by Akbar (June 26, 2009 11:57 am ET)
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      Works for me. We we don't count 'em, they won't count.

      Maybe then, they'll go away.
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    • Author by gs425 (June 26, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      What's the big wup-te-do? I haven't filled out those forms in its entirety the last 3 times (30 years). All the government needs to know is where I live and how many people live with me....done. They don't need to know what I have for breakfast.
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      • Author by chris1795 (June 26, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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        It's no big wup-de-do atall. All households will get the same old short questionnaire in the mail. A much smaller number will also get the American Community Survey, which is basially the old census long form with a very small number of new questions, mostly about health insurance. This form, and ACORN's fictional involvement with it, is what has them all in a tizzy.

        A lot of them are thoroughly convinced that there are questions about guns; the reason for this, quite obviously, is that it makes things easy for the gov't when it comes time to take them all away. Of course, there aren't actually any questions about guns, but why let those annoying facts get in the way of throwing a good paranoid tantrum?
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      • Author by open_mind (June 26, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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        They don't need to know what I have for breakfast.


        Why? What do you have to hide? Lol.
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      • Author by solon (June 27, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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        By all means keep your top-Secret breakfast menu to yourself. We dont want any breaches of National Security here.
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    • Author by fun_gus771028 (June 26, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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      Possible explanations:

      -The media conservatives are deep moles for progressive organizations. They promote tEh crAzIE because they are paid operatives attempting to destroy the GOP from within.

      -White Christian straight voters are tired of being a majority and the exclusion from power that comes with it. They want the same access to government handouts that other groups get. </s>
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    • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 27, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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      This is what has become of the Republican party. Torture, secession....and now stop the census. Wonderful logic. Who the hell is running this party?! The census is now the boogeyman?! The census?! Build a bunker in your mother's basement and live in it already.
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    • Author by mari2jj2970 (June 28, 2009 12:21 am ET)
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      I think it is great that my party has sunk so low. I have already decided to leave Republicanism in the dust and re-register but let them do as they please on the census issue. It will just mean they will have fewer representatives since representatives are elected in a given district that has been equalized to account for any increase or decrease in voters in that district. Republicans refusing to answer the census will result in watered down Republican votes. Not a bad idea since Republicans have wondered so far afield in the last few years. So have at it folks. Suits me fine. But that approach is cutting of your nose to spite your own face!
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    • Author by Paul A (June 28, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
         
      Well, for one thing if they don't complete the census it will look like there are no white men over 70 in the U.S. So, that could be funny. And it will change voting patterns so that it pretty much won't matter what the republicans do, they won't have any representation. And they are doing all of this because the population in the U.S. is moving towards women and people of color. And just a note to those republicans... you think that everyone who needs help, even a little, is on the "dole" and it won't hurt you if you ignore them. Really? Have you ever even had your car broken into? Have you been part of a more horrific crime? Do you think those people come from loving, families with good health care, and plenty of food. I am lucky enough never to need "assistance", I live in a neighborhood that you would never associate with crime. I can't count the number of times I've had my car or garage broken into. Good luck to you with avoiding the responsibility for ignoring humanity.
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