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Scarborough, Bartiromo falsely inflate WH economic growth assumptions

July 07, 2009 2:18 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Joe Scarborough and Maria Bartiromo falsely claimed that the Obama administration is predicting that the economy will grow at a rate of 4 percent in 2010 and, Scarborough added, "over the next decade." In fact, the administration predicted a 3.2 percent growth rate in 2010 and 2.6 percent from 2015 through 2019.

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During the July 7 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough falsely claimed that the Obama administration's budget assumed "that the economy's gonna grow at 4 percent next year and over the next decade." Maria Bartiromo, host of CNBC's Closing Bell, repeated the false claim about the administration's growth assumptions, responding in part that "a lot of people, independent forecasters, were not expecting growth next year, and yet, in the budget, we've got an assumption of 4 percent growth." But the White House did not assume a growth rate of 4 percent of real gross domestic product either "next year" or "over the next decade." According to the White House's budget outline, the administration predicted growth would next reach 4 percent in calendar year 2011, not 2010, for which it assumed a growth rate of 3.2 percent. Moreover, the administration projected that economic growth will peak in 2012 at 4.6 percent, then decline to 2.6 percent by 2015 and hold constant at that level through 2019.

Moreover, Scarborough claimed that the administration's deficit projections are too low, asserting that "those deficits are going to be even higher, even more crushing, even more -- using the president's words -- unsustainable." But as Scarborough noted, he assumed that the deficit projections are "based on [the administration's] assumptions that the economy's gonna grow at 4 percent next year and over the next decade."

From Obama's budget outline:

From the July 7 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

SCARBOROUGH: Now, here's the danger. The danger is that all of these assumptions -- you know, we've been saying, and even the president's agreed with what we've been saying around this table for the past five months of late, and that is we're out of money. The deficits are unsustainable. But these deficits that are unsustainable are based on their assumptions that the economy's gonna grow at 4 percent next year and over the next decade. It's not gonna happen. That means, Maria, those deficits are going to be even higher, even more crushing, even more -- using the president's words -- unsustainable. This is the biggest crisis, economically, I think, facing us, isn't it?

BARTIROMO: I agree with you, and I think that saying that we had incomplete information -- you know, I don't know, I mean, when -- you know, earlier in the year we knew that unemployment would worsen. We knew that the rest of the world was really, you know, coming apart, certainly Europe. We knew that economic growth was slowing sharply. I think a lot of people, independent forecasters, were not expecting growth next year, and yet, in the budget, we've got an assumption of 4 percent growth. How do you get there from negative -- you know, negative contraction in the U.S. economy? It's really -- it's impossible. A lot of people were questioning that, and I agree, now, you're not going to get any dent in the deficit from tax increases. The numbers just don't add up, so you actually have to cut spending. So hopefully this incomplete information, or the idea that it's worse than we thought, will cause them to cut spending. I don't know.

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    • Author by jonwisby (July 07, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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      maria bartiromo is a poor man's kitty pilgrim.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (July 08, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
           
        Wasn't Maria B. dating some big executive before getting her show on CNBC? If so, then this will say "ALOT" about Maria agreeing with Joe Scarborough's "off-the-wall", "makes-no-sense-at-all" Republican Talking Points about America's economy without blinking an eye. Too funny. LOL
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    • Author by shaggles (July 07, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
         
      What's happening on Wall Street?
      What's happening at The Stock Exchange?
      I want to know
      What's happening on Squawk Box?
      What's happening with my stocks?
      I want to know

      I watch you on the TV every single day
      Those eyes make everything okay
      I watch her everyday
      I watch her every night
      She's really outta sight

      Maria Bartiromo (3x)

      What's happening with Yahoo!?
      What's happening with AOL?
      I want to know
      What's happening with Intel?
      What's happening with Amazon?
      I want to know

      I watch you on the TV every single day
      Those eyes make everything okay
      I watch her every day
      I watch her every night
      She's really outta sight

      Maria Bartiromo (5x)

      What's happening on Wall Street?
      What's happening at The Stock Exchange?
      I want to know

      I watch her at the big board every single day
      While she's reporting, you best stay out of her way
      I watch her everyday
      I watch her every night
      She's really outta sight

      Maria Bartiromo (3x)
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    • Author by wesley (July 07, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      It better grow a whole lot faster than all the above projections...if we're to recover from the massive spending proposals by Pres.Obama's budget...$9 Trillion dollars in deficit spending.
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    • Author by claudiatucson (July 08, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
         
      Just give us the facts please. Someone on the show should have corrected the error. At least most of us that watch MSNBC are informed and know better than to believe everything that Joe says. claudiatucsonaz
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    • Author by fantagor (July 08, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
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      Listening to ex-Bush supporters jumping on the Penny Wise wagon is at best laughable, at worst disingenuous politicking. Bush added about 300 BILLION per year to the US debt to pay for tax breaks which went to the richest Americans, tax breaks which created no real lasting wealth, and these clods said nothing. Obama has to dig us out of the hole with more debt because after the 8 years of false growth under Bush cratered, he had no other option but to deficit spend or tax the rich, and the second you dare suggest rich people might have to pay more than 35% of what they make in taxes, you're called a Marxist. Just think what they would have called Ike, taxing the uber rich at 91%!

      http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php

      Randy
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (July 08, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
         
      Joe Scarborough does "NOT" have a degree in Economy, or Finance, or Accounting, or any field that relates to numbers and yet people give his Republican Talking Points about America's economy as great thoughtful knowledge. Huh? These Republicans inflated, stretched, and exagerated the WH's economic growth assumptions as a major point of opposition to "distract" - period.

      So, the word "assumption" is what the Republicans are running with in opposing Pres. O's Administration. What is wrong with these guys? Oh, Palin and Sanford. Okay. The Republicans needs a game changer on ANYTHING to "distract" from their "bad News". And, we know how Joe can talk on and on and on about nothing. Too funny.
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