To New York-centric Hannity, a cool June in Central Park means Gore is wrong about global warming
SUMMARY: Sean Hannity claimed, "This is the coolest June on record, the eighth coolest, and they're going back to the 1800s." But Hannity appeared to be referring to a National Weather Service statement about the weather in June in New York's Central Park -- not about the entire planet.
On the July 6 edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity claimed, "This is the coolest June on record, the eighth coolest, and they're going back to the 1800s." He then said that "Al Gore's movie" on global warming is "not reality" and "not science." However, Hannity appears to be referring to a July 1 public information statement issued by the New York, NY, National Weather Service office that said, "THIS JUNE IS TIED FOR THE 8TH COOLEST ON RECORD" in New York's Central Park -- not for the entire planet. On July 5, Matt Drudge posted a link to that statement under the headline "New York City has 'coolest June since 1958'. . . "
As Media Matters for America has repeatedly noted, scientists have identified a long-term warming trend spanning several decades that is independent from the normal climate variability -- which includes relatively short-term changes in climate due to events like El Niño and La Niña -- to which they attribute the recent global temperatures that are somewhat cooler than the record-setting years of 1998 and 2005.
From the July 6 edition of Fox News' Hannity:
FRANK LUNTZ (Republican pollster): Now, the Democratic approach is to talk about climate change. And when you've seen what happened with Katrina, Al Gore's movie -- the public does believe that the environment needs to be addressed. And so the battle now is: Who's going to offer the most jobs? Are they green jobs or not? Who's got the best solution to deal with it?
HANNITY: But let me ask you -- because new information came out. This is the coolest June on record, the eighth coolest, and they're going back to the 1800s, Frank.
LUNTZ: I know. I've actually gone back to cotton.
HANNITY: Well, I -- but the point is that most people may be buying into Al Gore's movie, but it's not reality, and it's not science.
HANNITY: Well, I like silk best-- but the point is that most people may be buying into Al Gore's movie, but it's not my reality, and it's not science as I would define it.
HANNITY: And,while we are on the subject, just who says the world is round. I look out my window and it appears to be flat, even from my penthouse apartment.
Sarah pulled a real hannity last Friday, announcing "I'm not a quitter" as she was quitting.
Since when has Hanniturd ever taken an interest in such things?
How much evidence do you need that there is global warming...
There is an international dilemma over who has the rights to the Northwest Passage... you know that passageway to navigate from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans over the Arctic. You see the problem is that this passage was a fable until Nov 2008 when a commercial ship sailed through the Northwest Passage for the first time ever!!! (some have theorized that the Vikings did so, but since we are talking Vikings now, I think they are the exception that proves the point.)
In Alaska, Morgan DeBoer opened a 9 hole golf course at the mouth of Glacier Bay in 1998. He said that the land was completely under water 50 years ago. During the highest tides the ocean would come into their driving range... today he's contemplating adding another 9 holes.
Oh... and what does NASA have to say about Global Warming...
Climatologists (scientists who study climate) have analyzed the global warming that has occurred since the late 1800's. A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming. Human activities contribute to global warming by enhancing Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface through a complex process involving sunlight, gases, and particles in the atmosphere. Gases that trap heat in the atmosphere are known as greenhouse gases.
But you know what...I think I'm going to believe Hannity because he's got the chills from a cool June!
* GREENLAND
Greenland glacier advancing 7.2 miles per year! The BBC recently ran a documentary, The Big Chill, saying that we could be on the verge of an ice age. Britain could be heading towards an Alaskan-type climate within a decade, say scientists, because the Gulf Stream is being gradually cut off. The Gulf Stream keeps temperatures unusually high for such a northerly latitude.
One of Greenland’s largest glaciers has already doubled its rate of advance, moving forward at the rate of 12 kilometers (7.2 miles) per year. To see a transcript of the documentary, go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/bigchilltrans.shtml
* NEW ZEALAND
All 48 glaciers in the Southern Alps have grown during the past year. The growth is at the head of the glaciers, high in the mountains, where they gained more ice than they lost. Noticeable growth should be seen at the foot of the Fox and Franz Josef glaciers within two to three years.(27 May 2003) Fox, Franz Josef glaciers defy trend - New Zealand's two best-known glaciers are still on the march - 31 Jan 07 - See Franz Josef Glacier
* SOUTH AMERICA
- Argentina's Perito Moreno Glacier (the largest glacier in Patagonia) is advancing at the rate of 7 feet per day. The 250 km² ice formation, 30 km long, is one of 48 glaciers fed by the Southern Patagonian Ice Field. This ice field, located in the Andes system shared with Chile, is the world's third largest reserve of fresh water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier
- Chile's Pio XI Glacier (the largest glacier in the southern hemisphere) is also growing.
* UNITED STATES
- Colorado (scroll down to see AP article)
- Washington (Mount St. Helens, Mt. Rainier* and
Mt. Shuksan
- California (Mount Shasta - scroll down for info)
- Montana (scroll down for info)
- Glacier Peak, WA (scroll down for info
- Alaska (Mt. McKinley and Hubbard).
Antarctic ice grows to record levels
13 Sep 07 - While the Antarctic Peninsula area has warmed
in recent years and ice near it diminished during the Southern
Hemisphere summer, the interior of Antarctica has been colder
and ice elsewhere has been more extensive and longer lasting,
See Antarctic ice grows to record levels
Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back
19 Feb 08 - A Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.
Mount St. Helens’ Crater Glacier Advancing Three Feet Per Day 25Jun07
Against odds, glacier grows in cauldron of Mt. St. Helens 15May08
Glaciers growing on California's Mount Shasta!
12 Oct 03 - See Mount Shasta Glaciers Growing
9 Jul 08 - See also California Glaciers Growing
Geologists Unexpectedly Find 100 Glaciers in Colorado
7 Oct 01 See Colorado Glaciers Growing
Washington's Nisqually Glacier is Growing
Glaciers in Montana's Glacier Park on the verge of growing
5 Oct 2002.
* Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing thicker
STOP DENYING GLOBAL ICE AGE
Second: Climate measures a mean for about thirty years. It measures a trend. Weather,on the other hand, is measured on a seasonal basis, and becomes a part of that climate mean.
June is usually one of our best months for weather. One wet, cold, and may I say, nasty June, does not add up to climate cooling or warming no matter how you try to spin it.
I implore all who are in lockstep with Gore's version of events to dig some into the "reality" (to borrow a phrase) of the situation as well as into his intentions. Anyone who does so objectively would conclude that he is nothing but a snake oil salesman (in this case, a carbon credit salesman), and worse, an absolute hypocrite.
Mr. Gore has been on my you-know-what list since 1992 when he turned his back on East Liverpool, Ohio despite his allusions during the campaign. WTI has thus operated the largest toxic waste incinerator in the U.S. ever since. Thanks Al. His list of skeletons is long and nasty. Look up Caney Fork River. Look up Occidental Petroleum. Or even just the Black Angus he touts in his movie (strange the words "methane production" were somehow omitted from his diatribe).
Gore is not a scientist, nor does he present science. He is a terrible hypocrite and thus an awful spokesperson for the cause. Respect for the scientific method in these endeavors must be paramount, but I am afraid that it is instead under foot. And I propose that those who follow the shepherd blindly are in fact the flat-earthers. It is far beyond time to stray from the flock. If you hadn't noticed the knives have long been sharpened.
the fact that Al Gore is such a convenient diversion from the topic of Global warming makes me think that you're just another right-wing deniar/sheeple.
As for my politics, nice try with the label. I am unenrolled as my philosophies are not spoken for by any politician. I am admittedly a fiscal conservative (hence my disdain of cap-and-trade) but I am a social liberal (unless you believe the support of legalizing things such as prostitution and polygamy as right-wing cornerstones). So attempts to pigeonhole me will fail. I suppose if I had to label myself, I would say I lean Libertarian, but I oppose many of the party planks as well.
There are in fact many scientists who protest that there is a consensus. The debate is not over and to overuse the word consensus in a scientific discussion only raises the hackles further. So there are in fact already many scientists that are saying differently. You are just choosing not to listen to the other side of the debate which screams flat-earther (I at least have investigated the evidence on both sides).
However....
The British judge did not do what you claim he did.
When the house of cards does fall down, and I truly believe it will, it will be a black eye to the environmental movement and leave an air of distrust about such issues. This in turn will hurt those devoting their energy to the immediate threats as a suspecting public further withdraws. On the human side, something like 2 billion of the earth's inhabitants currently live without electricity. Think about what good could be done with the money that will be wasted on fighting climate change to better the lives of hundreds of millions around the world.
As for your assessment that my "pathetic attempts to make Al Gore the leader of something is laughable" is in itself quite a hoot. I'll quote someone's comment from yesterday: "Al Gore's warnings in An Inconvenient Truth deserve your urgent attention." That was written by someone with the handle mary59. Now there may in fact be many masquerading as you out there with identical names, but I will assume that you made that statement. Sounds to me like you are ascribing a leadership role to Mr. Gore. To borrow a phrase, pathetic.
And finally, I throughly read the story at the link you provided and it actually reinforces my position (did you read it yourself?). What did I say that was in error? All I wrote was, "His 'facts' have been so thoroughly debunked that you cannot even show the movie in the UK without providing a disclaimer." And from your story, "There were nine points where Burton decided that AIT differed from the IPCC and that this should be addressed in the Guidance Notes for teachers to be sent out with the movie." If an addendum is being provided to teachers who by law must share it with students when presenting AIT, it certainly sounds like a disclaimer to me. Gore is the exaggerator-in-chief as is further solidified by your story. If anything, he hurts the cause. Why do you think Nancy Pelosi rejected his offer to come speak again in Washington about cap-and-trade?
NOAA: Fifth Warmest April for Globe
NOAA: Fourth warmest May on record
Your earth scientist is not exactly your unbiased source. His recent paper on Antarctic warming has come under fire for it's errors.
"Co-authors of Stieg’s paper included David Schneider of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, Scott Rutherford of Roger Williams University, Michael Mann of Penn State, Josefino Comiso of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center and Drew Shindell of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Followers of the global warming issue will easily recognize Michael Mann as the proponent of the since-disgraced “hockey stick” global warming graph and an activist global warming activist and the Goddard Institute as run by one of the world’s most infamous global warming alarmists, James Hansen. Stieg himself is a contributor to the ardently pro-alarmist and environmentalist-supported PR blog RealClimate. Despite this, none of the mainstream press stories I reviewed mentioned the activism activities of authors."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pro-global-warming-study-receives-worldwide-headlines-discovery-of-error-in-study-garners-op-ed-in-one-paper.html
Here is more regarding Steig's controversial report:
Over the last couple of days, I’ve seen Eric accuse people of everything short of fraud including Steve McIntyre who does everything in the open. In the meantime my reasonable requests for data and code have been cut from the threads repeatedly. This man is intentionally deceptive about his openness and he’s doing it pretty effectively because nobody at RC made it through the thread who had questions and because I was actually had to disagree with by smart people at CA who believed Eric actually had archived the code by his link.
Dr. Steig, put up or shut up. Enough bull about the posting all the code and the data (including the satellite data). I will call you out to no end and people will know the truth. If your paper is good, they will know – I promise. If not, I also promise.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/steigs-code/
In the end, you maybe a useful idiot in unquestioningly accepting Al Gore's hysteria. I note that the National Geographic News is being disingenuous by not noting Steigs obvious associations with the leaders for the AGW movement.
Nice juvenile rant but it looks like you are enjoying the kool aid.
New Peer-Reviewed Study Shows Arctic COOLING Over last 1500 years
(Study published in Climate Dynamics, and the work was conducted by Håkan Grudd of Stockholm University’s Department of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology - Published online: 30 January 2008)
Excerpt: “The late-twentieth century is not exceptionally warm in the new Torneträsk record: On decadal-to-century timescales, periods around AD 750, 1000, 1400, and 1750 were all equally warm, or warmer. The warmest summers in this new reconstruction occur in a 200-year period centred on AD 1000. A ‘Medieval Warm Period’ is supported by other paleoclimate evidence from northern Fennoscandia, although the new tree-ring evidence from Tornetraäsk suggests that this period was much warmer than previously recognised.” < > “The new Torneträsk summer temperature reconstruction shows a trend of -0.3°C over the last 1,500 years.” Paper available here:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=5ceaedb7-802a-23ad-4bfe-9e32747616f9
After reading those reports... hafta say, isn't just examining the evidence from one relatively small region of a big planet kinda like the same thing Insannity did?
This one study alone easily refuted Rabbit's inane statement about the short term.
And when he tries to link to so-called objective sources, he usually hasn't really absorbed that the links don't back up what he's saying.
i didn't realize that the weather in new york depicts the seriousness of global warming all over the world.
like you know anything about science, sean. first of all, looking at your last quote, you don't actually understand science. second, you didn't even graduate college. it would be a surprise if you knew what the definition of "is" is.
Here is a list of some of the "fools" who do not have degrees:
George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Thomas Edison
Harry Truman
Bill Gates and his nemesis Steve Jobs
Paul Allen
Buckminster Fuller
John D. Rockefeller
Walter Cronkite
Ernest Hemingway
William Faulkner
Michael Moore
To play the game further, here are some well-respected folk who attained a college degree:
Vladimir Lenin
Fidel Castro
Hugo Chavez
Ted Bundy
Ted Kaczynski
Hannity is not very reflective. He's good at a certain type of bullying that is called debate, but that's about it.
As for your second list... nice stab at humour but you fail. Naming five people who are/were scumbags with the possible exception of Hugo and insinuating that they are representative of people in general who have college degrees is beyond stupid and you know it. You are shameful for even thinking in such a moronic manner.
"While I agree that Hannity's use of localized weather to make a larger statement is preposterous, I actually do agree with him in his assessment of Gore's alarmist, propagandist flick as not being reality."
I stand by that statement. Part of what Hannity said is stupid on its face. But the other part alluding to the "science" of Gore's movie is something I happen to agree with.
know that all over the country it is cooler, not warmer! Chicago
has just had the coolest July 8, in 118 years!