On Fox, Rove, Hannity spread falsehood that Summers promised jobs right away
SUMMARY: Echoing his Wall Street Journal editorial, Karl Rove, along with Sean Hannity, falsely suggested that White House adviser Larry Summers promised that the economic recovery plan would "create jobs right away."
On the July 16 edition of Fox News' Hannity, host Sean Hannity and Fox News contributor Karl Rove advanced the falsehood that White House chief economic adviser Larry Summers promised that the economic recovery plan would "create jobs right away." In fact, during a February 14 appearance on CNN's The Situation Room, after saying that "[y]ou'll see the effects [of the economic plan] begin almost immediately," Summers specified that the immediate effects would include prevented layoffs, tax cuts, "orders" for infrastructure projects, and "better maintenance of schools." Summers added that "the effect will build over time."
During the Hannity segment, Hannity said, "Lawrence Summers has said at the time -- you quoted it in your article in the Journal today -- that, you know, we'd see an impact almost immediately. What happened?" Rove replied in part: "The administration's now, rather than saying that jobs are going to be created, now is now saying, the president said this is a two-year plan, not a ... you shouldn't have expected to have an effect in six months." He later asserted, "Yeah, well, they said we're going to create jobs right away, and the jobs are not being created now. So, they said, well, wait, it's going to take us two years."
Rove's and Hannity's statements echo a claim Rove made in his July 16 Wall Street Journal column, in which he also asserted that President Obama "is attempting to lower expectations retroactively" and falsely claimed that "Obama never said if his stimulus were passed things might still get significantly worse in the following year."
From the July 16 edition of Fox News' Hannity:
HANNITY: And in "Your America" tonight: Now, for months, the president traveled around the country promoting his stimulus package, pledging to the American people that his plan would create jobs and turn the economy around.
OBAMA [video clip]: My initial measure of success is creating or saving 4 million jobs. That's bottom line number one. ... Companies that are currently struggling to borrow money selling their products, struggling to make payroll, but could find themselves in a different position when we start implementing the plan. ... That's the goal at the heart of this plan: to create jobs.
HANNITY: All right. Now that unemployment stands at almost 10 percent, and the stimulus is clearly failing, my next guest says that the administration, well, they're changing their story. And joining me now is Fox News contributor Karl Rove. Karl, thanks for being with us.
ROVE: Thanks for having me, Sean.
HANNITY: Well, you heard what the president just said there -- that my measure of success is going to be, you know, the 3 to 4 million jobs that are created. Lawrence Summers has said at the time -- you quoted it in your article in the Journal today -- that, you know, we'd see an impact almost immediately. What happened?
ROVE: Well, the president also said we're going to -- the money's going to go out the door right away. None of this is happening. The unemployment rate is 9 and a half percent today. That is higher than the unemployment rate the administration forecast if we did nothing.
The administration's now, rather than saying that jobs are going to be created, now is now saying, the president said this is a two-year plan, not a -- not -- we -- you shouldn't have expected to have an effect in six months. Well, we've had six months to see them get this plan rolled out. They've spent exactly 7.7 percent of the money that they appropriated. This thing is badly designed, badly executed, and not having an effect on the economy. And the economy is going to recover, but it's going to be in spite of this, not because of it.
HANNITY: Well, look, first of all, I hope that's the case, but, then, we have the other problem, because CBO said the same thing that you did -- that it might recover in the short term, but, in the long term, they're creating structural problems that are going to make it more difficult. But explain like you did in the article how they moved the goalpost --
ROVE: Well --
HANNITY: -- that what they initially said has now changed.
ROVE: Yeah, well, they said we're going to create jobs right away, and the jobs are not being created now. So, they said, well, wait, it's going to take us two years. They said the money is going to be spent right away, and now they're saying, oh, no, no, we never anticipated that -- that's a 10-year program -- and we're going to spend money over the next two years, over the next 10 years. They said, you know, we're going to have a timely effect, and now they're saying, no, no, no, right from the beginning, we expected it to be long term.
I mean, they said one thing in January and February to sell the program, and now, today, when the program is coming up short, they're trying to move the goalpost, and, say, oh, no, no, you need to be patient, wait for next year or later on for a --
HANNITY: All right.
ROVE: -- for a positive effect.















His Hatred of Michelle Obama will never Abate.
Each time i watch Fox News i get sick to my Guts.
People that watch Fox must be stark raving Nuts.
Speak truth to Power.
Mr. News
Freaking borking blatherscate.
The bile flows to millions unabated.
FCC why were you created?
Clear the decks for a massive festering romantic depression of epic, or epicene proprotions!
The least I can do, its a specialty of mine.
Where was the dumbest bastard on TV and radio's outrage about that??
Of course, Bush made that actual promise and failed to deliver... whereas Larry Summers did not actually make any promise about jobs being made immediately (not that I'm aware of)
LAWRENCE SUMMERS, WHITE HOUSE ECONOMIC ADVISER: You'll see the effects begin almost immediately. Layoffs that otherwise would have happened in cities in towns to cops and teachers won't happen. You'll see withholding schedules adjusted so that people have more money in their paychecks. You'll see orders go out for new roads, new bridges, new computers for hospitals. You'll start to see better maintenance of schools.
So things will happen very, very quickly.
BLITZER: So, so but...
SUMMERS: The effect will build, the effect will build over time.
Very, very weak argument by MMFA to say that last sentence negates everything Summers said earlier. But it is Friday and I enjoyed the laughable attempt. :-)
I think it is rather obvious that MMFA was so selective because to show the whole quote proves Rove and Hannity were correct in their criticism.
"In fact, during a February 14 appearance on CNN's The Situation Room, after saying that 'y]ou'll see the effects [of the economic plan] begin almost immediately,' Summers specified that the immediate effects would include prevented layoffs, tax cuts, 'orders' for infrastructure projects, and 'better maintenance of schools.' Summers added that "the effect will build over time.'"
Can you show me the tax cuts that began immediately? I don't seem to see mine reduced.
Can you show me the layoffs that otherwise would have happened? Perhaps you think everyone who by virtue of still having a job nd hasn't been laid off can thank Larry?
I have personal knowledge of teacher layoffs in the county I reside.
Perhaps you can show all those order going out for new roads? Seen any for new bridges? How about orders for new computers? Hmmm.. they've got to be here somewhere.... Maybe under your couch? No...
The comment by Summers were pure hyperbole. No need to defend the indefensible. Rove is correct.
This is a breakdown of the Stimulus:
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus
Here's the tax cut that took effect in April:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-21-obama-saturday_N.htm
Here's a couple of links:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/burlington/news/x135746031/Stimulus-funds-prevent-public-employee-layoffs
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/08/states-using-stimulus-money-short-term-needs-study-shows/
http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient-ff#hl=en&q=layoffs+avoided+stimulus&fp=91q_bvBxHi8
Here's a couple of links:
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/04/13/costs-for-big-construction-projects-drop-amid-stimulus-spending/
http://www.kyw1060.com/pages/4333212.php?
http://www.governorpress.alabama.gov/pr/pr-2009-07-06-01-sthwyrecvstimulusfunds.asp
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jul/08/stimulus-money-reviving-high-speed-rail-project/news-breaking/
http://colorado.construction.com/features/archive/2009/0509_F1a_LocalStimulusFunding.asp
The breakdown of the stimulie porkulus is just that. A breakdown. Not what's been done. Only 3% of the stimulie has been spent. Waiting for those 2010 elections to see who needs the most help?
The real question is how high is unemployment going to go? Upwards of 10% is what the educated are saying. Barry's minions only predicted 8%. Consumer Confidence? Look at the chart here:
The Atlantic
When you lose the Atlantic, how far behind are the other cheerleaders?
Or better yet, we could have cut the taxes of the guys making million dollar bonuses who sent our jobs overseas with hopes this time the new jobs will be created in the US.
Whoops!!! I forgot, that was the Bush tax cuts...
Every single naysayer posting here supporting Rove's claims is dumb as a box of rocks, period. OF COURSE the Obama administration did NOT promise a turnaround that fast. You dumbasses jsut heard what you wanted to hear. What do you think--that we're living in some village somewhere where action and reaction is instant? You think friggin' employers just up and say, "OK, all's fine. I haven't sold crap because no one has enough confidence to BUY anything...but I'll jsut go ahead and hire a bunch of folks my business doesn't need anyway."
Stupid! I DARE one of you idiots here to tell me who hires workers to produce products or services no one is buying. THAT is at the heart of why a stimulus is needed: SOMEONE has to be buying SOMETHING for employment to pick up. UGh! If the media (including Media Matters) wanted to do the citizenry a service, they'd keep repeating the FACTS so the dumbass populace would get a clue because we're sure to stupid to recognize any painful realities on our own!
1) The GOP would've used it in a way that wouldn't have helped the economy.
2) Ralph Nader would've spent it in a better and more efficient way.
So of course, Karl Rove, the man who got the Master-puppet who ran the show 8 years elected, thanks to said mans brothers interference in democracy (not Karl Roves genius), is the person to trust in economic matters, since he "was a political consultant almost exclusively for Republican candidates" (2nd paragraph on his wikipedia).
The GOP offered a stimulus plan. It consisted of tax cuts for corporations, lowering taxes on the wealthy and making the Bush tax cuts permanent. Do understand these tax cuts would still mean borrowing money from China and would increase the deficit by taking in less revenue.
It was also said that the Senate GOP’s ‘stimulus plan’ would have costs $3.1 trillion over ten years which is 3.5 times the cost of Obama’s:
By the way, the CBO says the GOP alternative was the least effective way of stimulating an economy.
Should this come as a surprise?
The middle class have taken such a hit because Bush and the right played the fear card and never were called on it by people from Fox. They supported McCain and used Rev. Wright to scare Americans who supported Obama on a 24 hour basis.
Americans should never forget that Obama was the only politican that was outspoken and against the invasion of Iraq. He was correct. Bush left that for him to handle.
Hyprocites like Hannity and Rove cheered about a war that destroyed our economy and was unneccesary. They now root against the stimulis working.
Why should Americans listen to them now and not the direction Obama is trying to steer the country?
Rove and the right wing had their chance and failed. Obama was elected to fix it.
Obama should not have to answer to the people that caused America to be in such a mess.