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Fox & Friends' Camerota falsely claimed Summers cited Google -- but not GDP -- as sign of economic recovery

July 20, 2009 12:46 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Fox News' Alisyn Camerota falsely claimed that White House chief economic adviser Larry Summers recently cited Google searches, but not GDP, as evidence that the economy is improving. In fact, Summers cited both, as well as several other economic indicators.

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During the July 20 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Alisyn Camerota falsely claimed that White House chief economic adviser Larry Summers did not cite gross domestic product (GDP) as an economic indicator during a recent speech in which he argued that the economy is improving, and instead relied on "the search terms -- the words that people are using on Google." In fact, in the July 17 speech before the Peterson Institute to which Camerota referred, Summers not only mentioned that "the rate of searches for 'economic depression' on Google" is "back to normal baseline levels," but also cited several economic indicators that the economy is recovering, including that "[t]he pace of GDP contraction is slowing, and many private forecasters expect to see positive growth in the second half of the year."

Discussing Summers' comments, co-host Brian Kilmeade asked, "[W]hat indications does he use to find out if this economy is turning around and if confidence is growing?" Kilmeade subsequently asked, "GDP?" and Camerota replied, "No, no, no." After co-host Steve Doocy asked, "Psychic Friends Network?" Camerota claimed, "Close. It is the search terms -- the words that people are using on Google -- and fewer people this month have searched the term 'economic depression' than they did six months ago."

But in addition to citing "the rate of searches for 'economic depression' on Google" during his Peterson Institute speech, Summers explicitly cited GDP as one signal that "we have walked some substantial distance back from the abyss." Summers also cited the following indicators:

SUMMERS: A majority of businesses now report that they expect improved market conditions, the opposite of six months ago. Consumer sentiment has also begun to improve.

Those options that were saying one in six of a Dow under 5,000 this year are now saying it's closer to one in a thousand. The implied 10-year default rate on investment-grade bonds has fallen by a third. Municipals issue bonds in much more normal ways.

Earlier in the speech, Summers had cited many of the same indicators as evidence that "[t]he economy was in freefall at the start of the year, with no apparent limit on how much worse things could get." After referring to financial markets, GDP, municipal bond issues and "traditional measures of consumer and business confidence," he added: "The anxiety could be measured in one -- in one of many ways. Take one modern indicator: Google searches for the term 'economic depression' were up fourfold from their baseline level."

From Summers' July 17 speech at the Peterson Institute for International Economics:

SUMMERS; Begin last January. Though only a half a year ago, it's easy to forget how far we have traveled. When President Obama assumed office, he faced the most serious economic and financial crisis of any president since Franklin Roosevelt. Typical of the prevailing sentiment was Paul Krugman's warning in January of 2009, "Let's not mince words: This looks an awful lot like the beginning of a second Great Depression."

The economy was in freefall at the start of the year, with no apparent limit on how much worse things could get. Over the three months ending in February, the economy lost 2.1 million jobs, the largest three-month decline by a factor of two since the Second World War. GDP was declining over a six-month period at an annual rate of close to 6 percent. And even before any policy changes, the budget deficit was projected in 2009 to be well in excess of a trillion dollars.

Financial markets suggested significant risks of implosion. We looked at rather fat-tail probabilities, as calculated from options. They suggested a better than one in six chance that the Dow would fall below 5,000 at some point during 2009. Markets were expecting 38 percent of investment-grade corporate bonds to default within 10 years.

Municipalities faced tremendous difficulties issuing new bonds, to the point where muni bond rates, which are supposed to be below Treasury rates because of the tax benefits, soared to nearly double Treasury yields. Fear was widespread and confidence was scarce. Traditional measures of consumer and business confidence fell to low levels not seen in decades.

The anxiety could be measured in one -- in one of many ways. Take one modern indicator: Google searches for the term "economic depression" were up fourfold from their baseline level.

And something similar was true of mainstream media references to economic depression. That is what the nation faced just six months ago.

[...]

Where are we today? If we were at the brink of catastrophe at the beginning of the year, we have walked some substantial distance back from the abyss. A majority of businesses now report that they expect improved market conditions, the opposite of six months ago. Consumer sentiment has also begun to improve.

Those options that were saying one in six of a Dow under 5,000 this year are now saying it's closer to one in a thousand. The implied 10-year default rate on investment-grade bonds has fallen by a third. Municipals issue bonds in much more normal ways. The pace of GDP contraction is slowing, and many private forecasters expect to see positive growth in the second half of the year. And yes, if you look at the rate of searches for "economic depression" on Google, or you look in the mainstream media, it's back to normal baseline levels.

From the July 20 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: Larry Summers has got a very important job, and he is the one who's got to tell us how the economy is going, and we know that he works very hard, and, oftentimes, we've seen -- he's been caught on camera nodding off. But --

CAMEROTA: He works so hard that he has to nap during meetings, but --

KILMEADE: But what indications does he use to find out if this economy is turning around and if confidence is growing.

CAMEROTA: The unemployment rate? No. That's not necessarily what he's using. The debt --

KILMEADE: GDP?

CAMEROTA: No, no, no. Keep guessing.

DOOCY: Psychic Friends Network?

CAMEROTA: Close. It is the search terms -- the words that people are using on Google -- and fewer people this month have searched the term "economic depression" than they did six months ago.

KILMEADE: So what does that mean?

CAMEROTA: It means that fewer people think that we are in an economic depression, and that's a sign of increasing consumer confidence.

KILMEADE: Is that the silver lining? That's scary.

CAMEROTA: Yes, that's what he says. This is what Larry Summers says is the indicator that the economy is on the uptick.

DOOCY: I'm looking at Google right now. I'm looking at the hot trends for this hour. The Orange County movie, ESPY winners --

CAMEROTA: See?

DOOCY: -- Chronicles of Riddick.

CAMEROTA: See? Economy is doing well.

DOOCY: Yeah, it doesn't even talk about it. I guess we're OK. Happy days are here again.

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    • Author by mk3872 (July 20, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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      Classic, right out of the conservatives handbook. This tactic was used throughout the 8 years of the Clinton admin as well ...

      Sift through hours of dialog and writings to highlight the one little petty thing someone says and then hammer it through Drudge, Malkin and Fox News.

      No need for actual news here. Just advocate for the Republicans.

      Nice work, Roger & Rupert ... I hope that one day the GOP puts up a statue of you both on Capitol Hill ...
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      • Author by Conchobhar (July 20, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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        I hope that one day the GOP puts up a statue of you both on Capitol Hill ...

        To be given the same treatment Admiral Nelson's statue in Dublin received in March of 1966.
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    • Author by Conchobhar (July 20, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
         
      BTW, have Doocy and Howdy Doody ever been seen together? Just wondering.
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    • Author by Eric Jaffa (July 20, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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      Larry Summers' remark was stupid, anyway.
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      Google searches for the term "economic depression" were up fourfold from their baseline level.
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      A "baseline" from when?

      Speakers comparing occurences during two time-periods tell their audiences what the time-periods are.

      Except for idiots like Larry Summers.
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      • Author by peace4all (July 20, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
           
        here we have another fox news dolt. the "baseline was from before the economic meltdown. but like most on the right you miss the point completely. the whole point of the story is that the fox bimbo was trying to make it seem that the only indicator summers used was the google search. that was in itself patently false and fox knows it. i do have a question for you wingnuts though. why do you like to listen to the right wing noise machine. it is Proven on a daily basis that the information they give you is lies. so are you just so stupid that you don't know their lying or do you like the idea of winning aguements based on lies? just curious.
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        • Author by Eric Jaffa (July 20, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
             
          I'm a liberal.

          Lawrence Summers was behind the repeal of Glass-Steagall, laws meant to prevent another Great Depression by stopping consolidation of financial organizations. The legislation he supported allowed CitiGroup to form, a company which was bailed out. =======================================================
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/11/glass-steagall-act-the-se_n_201557.html

          "Today Congress voted to update the rules that have governed financial services since the Great Depression and replace them with a system for the 21st century," said then-Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers. "This historic legislation will better enable American companies to compete in the new economy."
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          Now he's making statements about how Google searches for "economic depression" were low then high and are now low, again, but he isn't telling us what the three specific time-periods are which would allow us to measure if those statements are true.
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    • Author by Freedom (July 20, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
         
      Yea, I guess Forbes got it all wrong when they quoted this dummy. Keep drinking the Kool-aid.

      http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/17/larry-summers-obama-business-beltway-summers.html
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    • Author by John Paradox (July 20, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
         
      Remember Reagan's Astrologer?
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    • Author by shaggles (July 20, 2009 5:57 pm ET)
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      I like the way she spells her name - Alisyn.
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    • Author by steeve (July 20, 2009 6:23 pm ET)
         
      For the record, if the recession lasts 8 years, know whose fault it is? Bush's.

      That's what you get when you break the world. If that isn't fair, the solution is to not break the world when you're in power.
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    • Author by Korsa (July 21, 2009 6:42 am ET)
         
      Pick out the one point you can exploit from someone making a speech on TV in order to make them look like a nutcase and bury your head in the sand to anything else, and thus instead just make yourself look like a moron.

      I can't say it's a new Republican tactic, though. Lol!
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