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NBC's Almaguer offered no examples of wealthy "sharing" in the "pain" of CA budget deal

July 22, 2009 2:13 pm ET

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SUMMARY: NBC's Miguel Almaguer stated that the proposed California budget deal is "a compromise, what some characterize as shared pain and sacrifice." But Almaguer did not provide examples of what the wealthy may have given up, nor note that the deal does not raise taxes.

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On the July 21 edition of NBC's Nightly News, correspondent Miguel Almaguer stated that the proposed California state budget deal is "a compromise, what some characterize as shared pain and sacrifice." Almaguer went on to note that the proposed deal includes "cuts across the board: $1.3 billion from health care; more than half a billion from welfare; another 1.2 billion from corrections, which could allow inmates out early" and that "[t]he biggest cuts come from education, affecting students from college to kindergarten." But Almaguer did not offer any examples of "pain" the wealthy might "share" with other Californians, nor note that the deal will not raise their taxes. Indeed, due to an ultimatum from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) and state Republicans, the deal includes no tax increases whatsoever.

During a June 18 speech, Schwarzenegger said of a series of referenda intended to close the budget gap which voters opposed in May:

As a matter of fact, the people overwhelmingly voted against those initiatives. And I think that they wanted to send to Sacramento a very clear message and the message was very simple; don't come to us with those complex issues, do the job yourself, live within your means, get rid of the waste and inefficiencies and don't raise our taxes.

He also stated:

This week the legislators came forward with their own proposal. Their budget still has too many of the gimmicks in there and I told them that yesterday at the meetings -- I met with the Democratic leaders yesterday and with the Republican leaders two days ago -- and I let them know that this has too many gimmicks still in there, one-time solutions and pushing the problem off into the future and actually pushing the problem off to the next legislature or to the next governor, which is something we don't want to do.

And rather than turning inward and looking at government very carefully, of what can we do to save money and to provide those programs more efficiently, they looked outward. They looked at all of you and said, "Let's raise the taxes again." So even though just recently, just four months ago, we had the biggest tax increase in the history of California of $12 billion, now they want to come back to you again and raise your taxes once again.

And so I said to them, I said, "I will not sign a budget that has tax increases in that budget." (Applause) I find it somewhat outrageous to go and to ask the people for a tax increase but at the same time to refuse a proposal that I put forward, which is to cut the state employees' pay by 5 percent. They refused that and rejected that and voted it down. But to go to you then and ask you for more money, it doesn't make any sense to me.

After reaching the tentative agreement with Senate and Assembly leaders on July 21, Schwarzenegger reportedly stated, "This is a budget that has no tax increases and this is a budget that is cutting spending and it deals with the entire $26 billion deficit."

In a July 22 editorial supporting the deal because it is "not nearly the nightmare that would have resulted from continued gridlock," the San Francisco Chronicle wrote that "[t]he refusal of the governor and Republican legislators to consider new taxes all but guaranteed that the solution would require a combination of excruciating cuts, buck passing and a dash of accounting gimmickry." The Chronicle also stated of the Republicans who "remain united against any new taxes": "It seems that many of them would sooner see their children in second-rate schools and their cars on Third World roads before they would break their anti-tax pledges and put themselves at the mercy of the right-wing talk radio blowhards." From the editorial:

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and California's legislative leaders achieved the most difficult job imaginable -- bridging a $26.3 billion shortfall -- in the most tortuous way possible. The refusal of the governor and Republican legislators to consider new taxes all but guaranteed that the solution would require a combination of excruciating cuts, buck passing and a dash of accounting gimmickry. And the deal announced Monday night contained all three.

But before we get into the ugly details, let us pause a moment to praise the governor and top legislators for finally mustering the mettle to perform this grim duty before the Golden State plummeted into insolvency. As awful as this deal might be for Californians who work for the state or depend on its help in finding a job, going to college or getting basic health care ... this is not nearly the nightmare that would have resulted from continued gridlock. California has reached the point of issuing IOUs and watching its nation's-worst credit rating sink to near junk-bond status.

Without this deal -- which still must pass both houses of the Legislature -- the state will keep sliding toward insolvency, with each day adding $25 million to the gap between spending and revenue.

So for all the interest groups that want to pick apart this compromise in the name of saving your favorite program, we ask: Where is your solution that would survive the current political reality of Sacramento? The Republicans remain united against any new taxes -- and it would take at least a few of their votes to reach the required two-thirds threshold. It seems that many of them would sooner see their children in second-rate schools and their cars on Third World roads before they would break their anti-tax pledges and put themselves at the mercy of the right-wing talk radio blowhards.

It's a sad commentary on the state of governance in California, but it is a reality the Capitol's voices of responsibility must confront.

From the July 21 edition of NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams:

BRIAN WILLIAMS (host): California is our biggest state in terms of population, and it long ago ran out of money. They've got nothing to pay the vendors they owe, and now they have struck a deal for more cuts, and these are going to hurt.

They're going to allow offshore drilling for the money it will bring in. The LA Times reports tens of thousands of seniors and children would lose access to health care, prisoners will spend less time in prison, and the governor is going to sell cars, and furniture, and office supplies, and autograph some of it, he says, to raise more money. It's an unbelievable turn of events. Miguel Almaguer is live for us in Los Angeles tonight to start us off.

Miguel, good evening.

ALMAGUER: Good evening, Brian. On Thursday, state legislators are expected to officially pass the budget. It is a compromise, what some characterize as shared pain and sacrifice.

[begin video clip]

ALMAGUER: A done deal -- that's what California's top legislators say about the state budget.

SCHWARZENEGGER: It was like a suspense movie.

ALMAGUER: It played out more like a long drama, complete with midnight negotiations and an ending long overdue.

SCHWARZENEGGER: This is an emergency. We are in a fiscal crisis, we are in an economic crisis, and we did things that needed to be done.

ALMAGUER: Facing a $26 billion budget deficit, California was so broke it began issuing IOUs. There was also worries the state would go insolvent.

SHERRY BEBITCH JEFFE (political analyst): Because if California had gone insolvent, there would have been no money to pay for services, to pay vendors.

ALMAGUER: The plan to pull California out of the red includes cuts across the board: $1.3 billion from health care; more than half a billion from welfare; another 1.2 billion from corrections, which could allow inmates out early.

PROTESTERS: Shame on you! Shame on you!

ALMAGUER: The biggest cuts come from education, affecting students from college to kindergarten. And it's not just the young, but also the old. San Diego's Hope Adult Day Care center will eliminate meals and health care service two days per week.

JESSICA CANONIZADO (Hope Adult Day Care employee): If, you know, we lose those two days and they do end up in a hospital or institution, it could cost the state well over $500 a day per patient.

ALMAGUER: Counties and cities aren't happy, either. San Diego balanced its budget, but the state money it was counting on won't be coming.

JERRY SANDERS (Republican mayor of San Diego): That's very real in terms of police officers in the street, firefighters on the rigs, potholes in the roads.

ALMAGUER: And to generate cash, the expansion of oil drilling near Santa Barbara, a move not seen off the Golden State's scenic coast in 40 years.

[end video clip]

ALMAGUER: And, Brian, while the state may have a budget deal, some local cities and counties say they may sue California to get their earmarked money back.

WILLIAMS: Miguel Almaguer in Los Angeles starting us off tonight. Miguel, thanks.

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    • Author by pointofview (July 22, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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      Why dont the liberals just pass a law against having any money, or push the top bracket up to 75%. Would that finally make all of you and MMFA happy?
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      • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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        Exactly. This thread is pointless except to fuel the simmering class warfare anger that many around here have.
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        • Author by bruce1ace (July 22, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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          I would like to see a chart for the last ten years that shows revenues vs expenses for CA and how much each has increased.
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          • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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            In the late 90s California had several years of budget surpluses, money was flowing in like crazy from the dotcom boom, etc. When that happens, fiscally responsible lawmakers are supposed to save those surpluses so when there is a downturn in the economy, they won't have to cut services or raise taxes. The Democrats that run California did no such thing, they spent like crazy. Now as the money slowed and the economy has worsened they cry like babies they have no money and have to cut essential services. They are lies, there is plenty of fat left in the budget, like these ridiculous public employee pensions that the state is saddled with. It is breaking the coffers in the state. If Democrats could stand up to these unions that would be a start, but they can't. Even this new budget is a joke, it's smoke and mirrors basically.
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            • Author by JDoorjam (July 22, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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              A Republican, Pete Wilson, was governor of California from 1991 - 1999. You can't just say "it's the Democrats."

              The problems are more structural than partisan. Because of the high barriers to passing a budget (google "Proposition 13"), combined with the absurd amendment system, the budget has become mangled and mutilated over the years, with the vast majority of funds inflexibly earmarked for a range of projects. California's government is simply poorly constructed (I'm talking about the actual constitution here, not those elected to office).

              Unfortunately, that's not as sexy a reason as blaming particular electeds, so most just go back and forth blaming the Governor, or the Democrats. The real story is far more complex, and unfortunately far more dull.
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              • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 5:27 pm ET)
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                The amendment that requires 2/3 of the legislature to approve budgets is the only thing standing between fiscal sanity and complete monetary collapse in this state. The Democrats have such a stranglehold on Sacramento, due mainly to the ridiculous gerrymandering here, that they have pretty much guaranteed their election victories. So of course they complain about, and blame the "process" instead of standing up and taking responsibility for their own doings.
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      • Author by seeryer (July 22, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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        Why don't conservatives who hate government stay the hell out of government? I never understood why anyone would vote a conservative into office. You are putting people in charge of running something they absolutely detest. It is the equivalent of hiring a child abuser to be your baby sitter. Poor Grey Davis. The Rethugs throw him out of office yet they still blame "liberals" for all their problems. How about blaming people in goverment who hate government?
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        • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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          Because what happens in government affects all of us, liberals and conservatives.
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          • Author by seeryer (July 22, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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            But people who hate the government should not be running it. It takes guts to tell people that raising taxes is the responsible action, much more so than releasing prisoners and cutting education.
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            • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
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              Well, the liberals in Sacramento took their guts to try and raise taxes once again to the people of California with the recent election and they were told absolutely not. So they got their guts handed back to them, apparently.
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              • Author by vhw28672478 (July 22, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
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                you cant cut you way out of it
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              • Author by JDoorjam (July 22, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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                For some reason conservatives forget that the people of California also voted down the proposals that would have cut program funding. They voted against both tax increases and program cuts.

                If you're from out of state you can be forgiven for not knowing the details of the proposals on the ballot, but if you're going to adopt the results of that election as anti-tax rhetoric, you really should pay closer attention.
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                • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 5:30 pm ET)
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                  I don't disagree completely, but the tide is turning away from higher taxes because it is unsustainable. Look at the pensions for public employees as I said. Some make 100% of their salaries for life, that is a huge drain on our budgets, and a good place to start tackling it.
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                  • Author by Whispers (July 23, 2009 11:19 am ET)
                       
                    The "tide is turning away from higher taxes"? I suggest you check your calendar. It's not 1994 any longer. Your mantra is nearly 30 years old by now.
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        • Author by bruce1ace (July 22, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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          Democrats have a firm control of the legislature in CA, I know that much. And Arrnold isn't much of a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
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          • Author by seeryer (July 22, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
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            Arnold is not a liberal. Just becasue he is a Republican and you don't like him does not mean he is a liberal. Is it a liberal position or a conservative position to plug your budget shortfalls by not raising taxes and cutting back services in education, welfare and healthcare?
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            • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
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              They just raised taxes, big time, a couple months ago. And when they wanted to do it some more, the people overwhelmingly voted NO! The jig is up, and the legislators know it. That's why they didn't put any tax hikes in this budget because the public has had enough.
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            • Author by bruce1ace (July 22, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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              Again I would need some context to see how much revenues vs expenditures have increased over time to determine whether a tax increase was warranted or if spending was out of control.

              You were blaming conservatism and I was making the counter argument that there aren't many conservatives in California politics. There's more than just conservative/liberal.
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        • Author by anotheramerican (July 22, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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          sseryer,

          Only those who love government spending, government programs, government bailouts, government taxation, government interference, government regulations, government handouts, government subsidies, government programs, (I'm sure there's more,) should be in government.

          Thanks for explaining the liberal mindset.
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          • Author by anotheramerican (July 22, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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            pardon my spelling. I meant to address this to seeryer.
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          • Author by seeryer (July 22, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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            No. Shrinking government to the point where it can be drowned in a bathtub is not the ideology we should be putting into office. I am not saying you have to love big government in order to serve. What I am saying is you should take seriosuly the responsibilities of governing. I do not think people who pledge to not raise taxes is taking governing seriously. They are campaigning seriously but not governing seriously. To make that type of pledge ignores the changing daily realities of governing. The bottom line is conservatives can't govern. If they could, especailly considering how your side is sure Democrats are so horrible, how come only 40 Senators are Republican and less are conservative republicans and how come Nancy Pelosi has such a large majority in the House? I already told you, becasue conservatives do not take governing seriously.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (July 22, 2009 9:58 pm ET)
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            I was wondering, why do you use the American flag as an avatar and yet, you are obviously and anarchist, since you don't seem to like anything that government stands for or does?
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      • Author by shaggles (July 22, 2009 6:48 pm ET)
           
        If having money was illegal what would be the point of raising the top tax bracket?
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    • Author by Leftym0m79 (July 22, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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      I live in California. I would have gladly paid and increase in car registration fees so our schools and local governments wouldn't be pillaged by the Governator because he can't accept the fact that he blew it big time.
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      • Author by southerngal (July 22, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
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        You just did. They basically doubled this year. Maybe you haven't gotten your renewal yet, you will see. The Governator is a hopeless failure, granted, but he isn't in charge of spending the state's money, that's the leftist legislature.
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      • Author by Leftym0m79 (July 22, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
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        I should have said "been paying an increase this whole time"
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (July 22, 2009 9:50 pm ET)
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      Wow, thread off topic.

      Rich isn't sharing in the pain. Of course they are:
      1.2 billion from corrections, which could allow inmates out early
      I mean really, you know all those crooks are just going to target the rich.
      (BTW Tongue firmly in cheek)

      California's current problem. Large drop in personal income equals huge drop in tax revenue.
      I have said it before and I will say it again. As Americans we tend to like all the things (roads, etc) that the government provides but; no one really wants to be the one to help pay for it.

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      • Author by roundhouse (July 23, 2009 12:58 am ET)
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        It's amazing isn't? If you want a loaf of bread, you actually have to pay for it.

        Republicans really have no idea what it takes to live in a humane society.
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        • Author by Gomes (July 23, 2009 7:16 am ET)
             
          Yes I want a loaf of bread.. and some eggs and some milk, a video, a pension, some more bread.. oh and some TORTILLAS, 100k a year salary.. um.. what else? oh throw in a couple packs of smoke, a car.. healthcare FOR THE CHILDREN.. as long as everybody else pays BUT ME
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    • Author by James (July 23, 2009 9:09 am ET)
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      The fiscal crisis in California is the direct result of it's own "balanced budget" amendment. The amendment prohibits managing surpluses during the good times, and causes economic downturns to spiral out of control. Take heed you idiot "balanced budget" Republicans. Your fiscal policies don't work. We have proved that all over again, haven't we?
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    • Author by pbg (July 23, 2009 11:09 am ET)
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      The real problem is that cutting services degrades the state economy. Sure, the free market Econ 101 vision is that investment will just flock toCA because of a lighter tax burden. But in the current situation that's laughable.
      Cutting services means more misery, more crime, amore poorly educated work force. In the short term, this process is guaranteed to make CA tax revenues even lower next year. And what then?

      Liberals in this case are arguing from results, conservatives from ideals. They say people should be allowed to keep their money! And we say that if the society around you gets poorer, everybody's life gets degraded.

      There may be people who'd rather live in Mexico, in big houses surrounded by grinding poverty, with servants that spit in your food--but most people would rather California not become Mexico.
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    • Author by pfina (July 23, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
         
      technically the last thing Almaguer mentioned is a "tax" on the wealthy...

      "And to generate cash, the expansion of oil drilling near Santa Barbara, a move not seen off the Golden State's scenic coast in 40 years."

      No?

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