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CNN president emails Dobbs pronouncing birther story "dead," but Lou won't let it go

July 24, 2009 3:48 pm ET
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SUMMARY: After CNN President Jon Klein reportedly emailed information to the staff of Lou Dobbs Tonight that Klein said shows the "story" about President Obama's birth certificate "is dead," Lou Dobbs noted that evidence on air, but then asked Roland Martin: "When this could be dispelled so quickly, and -- and simply by producing [the birth certificate], why not do it?"

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After CNN President Jon Klein reportedly emailed information to the staff of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight that Klein said shows the "story" about President Obama's birth certificate "is dead," host Lou Dobbs noted that evidence -- which was a statement by the Hawaii Health Department that in 2001, paper records were replaced by electronic records -- on air as Klein instructed, but then asked CNN contributor Roland Martin: "When this could be dispelled so quickly, and -- and simply by producing [the birth certificate], why not do it?"

In the July 23 email to the Lou Dobbs Tonight staff, obtained by Mediabistro's TVNewser, Klein pointed to evidence debunking birther conspiracy theories that Dobbs "should be sure to cite" during that evening's broadcast. Specifically, Klein included in his email information from CNN's "political researchers" that stated "the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless" in 2001, that the "[p]aper documents were discarded," and that "[t]he official record of Obama's birth is now an official ELECTRONIC record" [emphasis in original]. But while Dobbs did mention during his July 23 CNN show that "the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic," he nonetheless continued to question the version of Obama's birth certificate available online and argue that Obama should "produce" a valid birth certificate.

From Klein's July 23 email, obtained by TVNewser:

----- Original Message -----

From: Klein, Jon (CNN)
Sent: Thu Jul 23 19:00:44 2009
Subject: Important re birth certificate

I asked the political researchers to dig into the question "why couldn't Obama produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate?"

This is what they forwarded. It seems to definitively answer the question. Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead - because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef.

Thx

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*In 2001 - the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless.*Paper documents were discarded*The official record of Obama's birth is now an official ELECTRONIC record Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Health Department told the Honolulu Star Bulletin, "At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.

Introducing a segment about Obama's birth certificate during the July 23 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight, Dobbs repeated the research forwarded by Klein regarding the Hawaii Health Department, stating:

DOBBS: President Obama promised transparency and openness in his administration. Yet, he's chosen not to release his original birth certificate or a copy of it.

And a number of Americans are asking, why not? The left-wing media has attacked me because I simply asked the question. Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago.

That explanation, however, has not satisfied some critics.

However, during the discussion that followed, Dobbs again said that Obama should produce a birth certificate. Dobbs stated: "My -- my issue is this, OK? When this could be dispelled so quickly, and -- and simply by producing it, why not do it?" Dobbs also raised concerns about the copy of Obama's birth certificate that FactCheck.org posted online, referring to it as "a document that says there's another document":

ROLAND MARTIN (CNN contributor): That is an official document. What is in the newspaper is a birth announcement, Congressman. Come on.

REP. TED POE (R-TX): Well, they --

DOBBS: Let -- let -- if I may interject. Do we have a -- could we just put up a copy of that certificate -- certificate of live birth?

What you are looking at there, which I believe is the copy that comes from FactCheck.org, or Annenberg, there's no reference there to the attending physician. There's no reference there to the hospital in which he was born. It is a certificate that refers to the fact that another certificate exists.

MARTIN: Is it an official state document?

DOBBS: I'm sorry?

MARTIN: Is it an official state document of the state of Hawaii?

DOBBS: Well, let me try this again, so I can be really clear about it. It is a document that says there's another document. It does not include that -- you are referring to your father's birth certificate.

A copy of his birth certificate would have the doctor, the hospital that he was born in, correct? And this is the -- and, by the way, this is just what people are concerned about.

Dobbs also replayed remarks from his radio show indicating "where I stand," which included his previous remark that "I believe Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States, folks. Don't you? But I do have a couple of little questions, like you. Why not just provide a copy of the birth certificate? That's entirely within the president's power":

DOBBS: Before we get started, I want to be clear where I stand, because the -- the left-wing media kind of forgot to leave out -- kind of left a few things out. It was inconvenient to their stories.

Just -- just one statement, very quickly, if you will. Play that.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP, JULY 21, 2009)

DOBBS: I think the president of the United States is a citizen. But what I don't understand is why he hasn't just produced it to get this -- this noise out of the way.

I believe Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States, folks. Don't you? But I do have a couple of little questions, like you. Why not just provide a copy of the birth certificate? That's entirely within the president's power.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

DOBBS: Why not? That's the question, Roland Martin. What's the answer?

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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (July 24, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
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      Don't you wish these talking heads would spend this kind of time on things of real value to the Country ?
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      • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
           
        Like, where was all this curiosity in 2003?
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      • Author by DaRocketMan (July 24, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
           
        Actually no. I'd rather they spent their time arguing over things that don't really matter; that way, they don't really influence anything that has any value or could effect the lives of anyone.
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    • Author by rtwmd1230 (July 24, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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      Memo to self

      Add to weekend to-do list: buy ziploc bag for birth certificate.
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      • Author by javajed (July 24, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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        Yes, I better do that too. I thought the "official seal" was on the document. Clearly I was mistaken. The seal is on the bag that the document goes inside. That's how you know it's official--no freezer burn.
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      • Author by shaggles (July 24, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
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        Ziploc bags are no good. You need one of those acid-free bags comic collectors use.
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      • Author by harley (July 24, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
           
        Is it a Certificate of Live Birth or Certification of Live Birth? If it's the latter, don't bother....it doesn't count apparently.

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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (July 24, 2009 4:05 pm ET)
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      See what happens CNN when you let this non-sense go on and on without putting a stop to it in the first place. Now Lou Dobbs and his right-winged, Republican followers may say how his boss, Jon Klein President at CNN, is part of President Obama's cover-up. Great job CNN for letting this non-sense get so carried away for ratings. LOL
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      • Author by frankbyron (July 24, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
           
        Now Lou Dobbs and his right-winged, Republican followers may say how his boss, Jon Klein President at CNN, is part of President Obama's cover-up.

        That's probably Dobb's point, and by letting this lunacy fester instead of responsibly putting a clamp on it from the beginning, CNN's now opened a Pandora's Box of Crazy that will be all but impossible to close. Klein had better buckle himself in for some severe public relations battles in the coming weeks as Dobbs and his drooling mob turn on CNN itself (much like when the same type of unhinged rightwingers screamed outside the New York Times building when it did its job and revealed Bush's illegal wiretapping program.) Dobbs, the "birthers" and the rest of them are Authoritarian worshippers; the Government is Good and Wise and always right. Facts, logic and reason are the enemy to be hated and feared. These people are definitely a dangerous fringe element, but by letting Dobbs carry on and by giving a platform to imbecilic figures such as Liz Cheney to treat this nonsense as a serious topic of discussion, CNN has created the very problem some on the network (and now the network brass, apparently) are complaining about.

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    • Author by right ON (July 24, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
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      Lou Dobbs is being a complete a$$ about this. When you sink to endlessly parroting wacked out conspiracy theories that people like Hannity and other equally less respected ideologues out there are doing, then you deserve it if your credility drifts beyond repair. He better wake up, if it's not too late.
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      • Author by anotheramerican (July 24, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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        right,

        On January 21st, 2009, his very first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489.

        For those of you who can’t take the time to read it. here is the section that applies:

        “Sec.2

        Notice Of Intent To Disclose Presidential Records

        When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines providied by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege.”

        Now for all of you who commented on our previous articles that we were no more that right-wing nut jobs, that this thing about Obama’s birth certificate was a non-issue, and those of you who tried to shift the focus of the stories, doesn’t this strike you as just a little odd?

        That the first order of business Obama took care of on day one of his Presidency was to sign off on an Executive Order that states that only the records he chooses to be made public will be released?

        This is the subject that was at the absolute top of his agenda?

        If this isn’t proof that Obama is hiding something, I don’t know what is.

        http://freedomedium.com/2009/07/obama-signs-executive-order-barring-release-of-his-birth-certificate/
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        • Author by Scotty Johnson Sr. (July 24, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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          Guess what? His birth certificate isn't a "presidential record". Presidential records are documents that accumulate once the President takes office. You are so thick.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (July 25, 2009 6:41 pm ET)
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            OUCH!
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          • Author by wzwriter (July 27, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
               
            I think we should require AA to produce HIS birth certificate, or whatever they issued on his home planet. :-)
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        • Author by rsinebada7366 (July 24, 2009 4:33 pm ET)
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          Every president for decades has signed the same, traditional, executive branch order. It is part of all the other constitutional forms rountinely signed by all modern presidents. Sorry, you should study history and traditions and the separations of powers as put forth in the constitution.
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        • Author by peace4all (July 24, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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          ohhh yeah, another piece of the cover-up falls into place. another thing i noticed was that the sun was just a little less bright after Obama was sworn in. if that does not prove he was born somewhere else i don't know what does..lol
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        • Author by Victor Colorado (July 24, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
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          Now that you've had a little time to reflect, can you see how your post makes NO sense?
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        • Author by wikilowe (July 24, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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          Well, what you're ignoring is the fact that this executive order is merely revoking George W. Bush's executive order concerning this and restoring the wording of Executive Order 12667 which was signed by Ronald Reagan. So if anything he was following through on his promise to reverse Bush-era EO's and policies and actually went back to a policy of the Conservative Granddaddy Reagan. That doesn't seem odd to me at all.

          And have you read Bush's EO (Executive Order 13233)? This replacement is a great improvement over that. And I also think you're misinterpreting Executive Privilege. Not to mention you overlooked how the AG and White House Council can deem it not under Executive Privilege and have it issued anyways.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (July 24, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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          I gave AA a thumbs up - cause he deserves credit for going so far into crazyland that he may never come back. Say "Hi" to Lou for us AA.
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          • Author by Victor Colorado (July 24, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
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            It is rather charming when nutburgers self-identify.
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        • Author by harley (July 24, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
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          Anotheridiot is completely pwned. Great job at making a fool of yourself. And, to complete your utter and complete embarrassment and joke of a posting, attempt to read some reality, twit:

          http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/chain-email/e-mail-claims-free-flow-information-act-would-prot/

          Here's what the bill says: "A federal entity may not compel a covered person to provide testimony or produce any document related to information obtained or created by such covered person as part of engaging in journalism, unless a court determines by a preponderance of the evidence." You can read the bill in its entirety here .

          Many bloggers insist it would also protect federal employees of the executive branch from being compelled to release documents.

          But the key words are "covered person." And this is how it's defined later in the bill: "The term 'covered person' means a person who regularly gathers, prepares, collects, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes news or information that concerns local, national, or international events or other matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the person's livelihood or for substantial financial gain and includes a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such covered person."

          In other words, "a covered person is simply a journalist," said Sophia Cope, legislative counsel for the Newspaper Association of America, which has lobbied hard for the bill. "The White House would not fall under that."

          This bill has been kicking around Congress for four years, long before Obama announced his candidacy for president. The idea that it is a covert attempt to block Obama from producing his birth certificate is absurd. We also note that the bill has enjoyed widespread bipartisan support. It was so noncontroversial it passed the House on March 31 with a voice vote rather than a roll call. Last Congress, it passed by a vote of 398-21. A Senate version of the bill is under consideration.

          Cope isn't quite sure how the intent of the law has been so grossly distorted.

          "The bill's intent is to protect reporters and their confidential sources from being subpoenaed to testify, or from having to disclose the identity of those sources," Cope said. "I don't see how it would relate to Obama's birth certificate."

          One could argue that this law has simply been misread by some well-intentioned government watchdogs. But this is just the latest conspiracy theory from the fringe of a conservative group convinced that Obama hasn't provided sufficient documentation to prove he was born in the United States, and therefore cannot serve as president. Even among these folks, the claim about the Free Flow of Information Act is more than a stretch. We give it a Pants on Fire.




          HA HA HA. Americanidiot = flat earther
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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (July 24, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
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          AA,

          Since you apparently have no clue what is meant by "Presidential Records," here is the statute that this Executive Order applies to:

          44 U.S.C. 2201 (2)

          (2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term--

          (A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

          (B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) of title 5, United States Code; (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

          (3) The term "personal records" means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes--

          (A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;

          (B) materials relating to private political associations, and having no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; and

          (C) materials relating exclusively to the President’s own election to the office of the Presidency; and materials directly relating to the election of a particular individual or individuals to Federal, State, or local office, which have no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.

          http://www.archives.gov/about/laws/presidential-records.html#2201
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        • Author by solon (July 24, 2009 5:40 pm ET)
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          What a shock another ignorant rightwing blog making stupid claims. The apparantly cant tell the difference between what the hospital gives you for your scrapbook and an official birth certificate. Is this all you do. Bring this worthless rightwing nutjob sites here as IF they had any credibility whatsoever? Do you even understand the CONCEPT of a credible source? Why do you waste our time with this kind of idiocy? I am done with your tinfoilhat.moron sites. Either cough up something with some cred or just admit you are worthless and havent got any idea whatsoever what you are talking about
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        • Author by solon (July 24, 2009 5:55 pm ET)
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          Boy did you get spanked with that bit of wingnuttery.
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        • Author by jibal (July 25, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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          Now for all of you who commented on our previous articles that we were no more that right-wing nut jobs, that this thing about Obama’s birth certificate was a non-issue, and those of you who tried to shift the focus of the stories, doesn’t this strike you as just a little odd?


          No, it confirms that you're a right-wing nut job.

          That the first order of business Obama took care of on day one of his Presidency was to sign off on an Executive Order that states that only the records he chooses to be made public will be released?

          That's not what it states.

          This is the subject that was at the absolute top of his agenda?

          It wasn't. He signed many executive orders that day, and this wasn't the first one.

          If this isn’t proof that Obama is hiding something, I don’t know what is.

          Indeed right wing nut jobs don't know anything.
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        • Author by coach777b (July 26, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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          I assume you have just been awakened from a sleep of atleast eight years. Bush & Cheyney issued similar orders making certain that they would be the final filter as to papers that belong to the people of the USA. Now that you've awakened, you want to protest this? What's next?
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        • Author by bintx (July 27, 2009 7:58 am ET)
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          If you don't know the law, don't try quoting it. Just makes you look silly.
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      • Author by jibal (July 25, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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        Lou Dobbs is a complete a$$, period.
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    • Author by arrgh.paine (July 24, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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      Lou, it is over, do the research, the government officials in Hawaii responsible for the records have verified that the birth certificate is valid... therefore the President has produced his birth certificate! do... you... need... us... to... speak... more... slowly? Arrgh
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    • Author by rsinebada7366 (July 24, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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      Has anyone found out who the raving nut job was at the GOP congressman's town hall? Why did others stand up and do as she said? Was the hall packed with loons? She wants to take her country back! From whom? All the voters who elected Barack Obama? All those electors who gave him such an overwhelming win throughout the country. I repeat, from whom does she want to take our country back. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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      • Author by Leftym0m79 (July 24, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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        Why? So she can be put on a pedestal next to Joe "I'm not really a plumber but I play one on TV" Wurzelbacher? One loon plucked from obscurity is enough.
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        • Author by mary59 (July 24, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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          I was sort of looking forward to someone on the Daily Show interviewing her, though....
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        • Author by solon (July 24, 2009 5:44 pm ET)
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          I have to admit Joe wishes-he-was-a-plumber was one of my favorite nutbags of recent memory. He was really gone round the acorn tree.
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          • Author by Leftym0m79 (July 24, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
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            I have to agree with you there. Especially when he was going to release the album, priceless.
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      • Author by worrierking (July 24, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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        To answer your question the hall WAS probably filled with loons.

        Have you ever been to Georgetown, Delaware?
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 11:23 am ET)
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        She wants to take her country back! From whom?

        The black man. That's who.
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    • Author by murphyj87 (July 24, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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      "there's no reference there to the attending physician. There's no reference there to the hospital in which he was born"

      I have my own birth certificate in front of me and all it says is full name, birth date, birth place(city), sex, registration date, registration number, and date of issue.
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      • Author by peace4all (July 24, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
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        what?!!!!!..it does not list your parents? your doctor? it does not have your footprint? ok buddy, who are you really and where were you born. and what are you hiding that you won't submit your "real" birth certificate?
        jk
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      • Author by steelers84 (July 24, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
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        Yep, mine also has nothing about doctor or hospital. It has that info, plus parents. Wait, then that must mean, NOOOOO I'm an alien from the planet Zenu. I'd try to run for president and destroy the nation from the inside, but I'm sure there's a dentist/attorney/real-estate agent that will expose me.
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    • Author by sanity-irrelevant (July 24, 2009 4:51 pm ET)
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      Link to Star-Bulletin article below.
      Yesterday, before seeing the email from CNN's president, I found the JUNE 6, 2OO9 article referred to in his email.

      It took about 20 minutes to find the article. I agree with the CNN president: This is the definitive and simple explanation for why Obama can't produce any birth certificate other than the one the state of Hawaii produced for him in 2007 that's posted all over the internet. Why? because that's only one Hawaii has produced since 2001.

      What's amazing is that a google search on July 24th using the full title of the article only brings up 200 hits -- 200 hits.

      I found the article by thinking local and searching for articles in the Honolulu newspapers. Here it is:
      "Honolulu Star-Bulletin: Born identity:Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations By June Watanabe POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 06, 2009"

      In plain text here is the url:
      http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.htm

      http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
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    • Author by seroquel (July 24, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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      OK, say it-Lou Dobbs is an IDIOT.
      That's all I can figure out-a platform dedicated to circular reasoning, and again-Lou Dobbs is an idiot.
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    • Author by loonz (July 24, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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      Has Dobbs ever had on the "9-11 was an inside job" people and treated their claims as legitimate?
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      • Author by Craig (July 24, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
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        Not as far as I know. He did used to peddle the North American Union conspiracy, though.
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        • Author by John Paradox (July 24, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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          He also backed the "immigrants will give us all leprosy". That didn't fly for long, though.
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    • Author by Looking_4_Truth (July 24, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
         
      Dobbs' reporting has continually fallen short of the qualities or ethics the public should expect from a major news organization for years. I was taught studying journalism in college that it is a reporter's responsibility to "report" accurately the news and issues they cover, and be objective. Dobbs' has lost all semblance of any of those things. His penchant for latching on to and promoting divisiveness, hatred and ridiculous stories is mind-boggling.

      There was a time when CNN WAS "the most trusted" news organization, gathering and reporting "real news." That reputation and public trust has since been tarnished and destroyed by the network's willingness to provide airtime to extremists such as Dobbs and no accountability whatsoever.

      I'm sure Dobbs will be heard of somewhere in the "entertainment" business that mascarades as news. He has an audience and following, there are plenty of people who will follow his absurdity.
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    • Author by the grand vizier (July 24, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
         
      What we're watching is a race to the bottom. CNN programmers, along with Lou Dobbs' complicity, are trying to woo the nutjobs from Fox. This is all about $$$, and it seems that the largest audiences in the early evening time slot are wackos, currently controlled by Faux Noise and CNN/Dobbs want to grab a piece of that. Remember, as I always remind people. TV's job is to provide "eyeballs to advertisers." If you put it in that context, sad as it may be, there are more deranged eyeballs than we would like to admit to. Again, a Cable network race to the bottom.
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    • Author by stevea662711 (July 25, 2009 1:11 am ET)
         
      Obama must be the most brilliant man alive. At birth, he somehow got his mother to have a local birth announcement printed in a paper in Hawaii so that someday, when he wishes to become president of the United States and 'take control' of the country, they'll have proof of his citizenship.

      I just can't imagine being one of these people. There has been all kinds of proof now, including the live birth certificate, communication by the appropriate powers that be in Hawaii, etc.

      It's just so sad that they can't put all this energy toward some things that might help the country.

      Anywho...
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    • Author by TadekKorn (July 25, 2009 2:30 am ET)
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      One explanation possible for Dobbs's continuing to run the birther argument against even the advice of CNN management is that he's angling for a transition to FOX-- ala Glenn Beck. I can't remember when I last watched Dobbs. Is it possible that his ratings are so far down that he's trying to arouse Murdoch's attention for a job? He's certainly as credible as Hannity, O'Reilley and Beck. With Dobbs on board, FOX would have a perfectly harmonious quartet!
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    • Author by bintx (July 27, 2009 7:59 am ET)
         
      I think Dobbs should post his own long form birth certificate online. Then, we'll see how long it takes for an identity thief to get a credit card with it.
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