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Fox's claim July temps "challenge climate change" disputed by original source of data

July 29, 2009 6:19 pm ET — 31 Comments

On July 28, Fox Nation posted the headline "Record Low Temps in July Challenge 'Climate Change.' " However, the claim is apparently based on findings from an AccuWeather.com post, the author of which makes clear: "Cold OR warm outbreaks, by themselves, are not signs of Climate Change."

[The Fox Nation, accessed 7/29/09]

Food Chain: AccuWeather.com post moves through conservative media

AccuWeather.com. In a July 25 post titled "3,000 Low Temp Records Set This July!" on AccuWeather.com, Jesse Ferrell wrote:

First, some stats. 1,044 daily record low temperatures have been broken this month nationwide according to NCDC -- count record "low highs" and the number increases to 2,925, surely to pass 3,000 before the end of the month.

Drudge Report. On July 26 at 8:41 a.m. ET, the Drudge Report linked to Ferrell's AccuWeather.com post with the headline, "3,000 record low temps set in July... ":

Newsmax.com. In a July 27 post titled "Record Lows in July Challenge Climate Change," Newsmax.com stated:

Global warming may be taking another black eye as AccuWeather.com reports an unusually cold July, which is most pronounced in the Northeast of the United States.

While it has been unusually hot in the Southwest, AccuWeather reports that 1,044 daily record low temperatures have been broken thus far in the month of July, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Fox Nation. On July 28, Fox Nation posted the headline "Record Low Temps in July Challenge 'Climate Change,' " linking to the Newsmax.com post.

"Record Low Temps in July" do not "challenge" climate change

Author of AccuWeather.com report disputed that his findings "challenge climate change." Following Drudge's link, Ferrell updated his original post with "A FEW CLARIFICATIONS FOR DRUDGE READERS," in which he noted, "The article was not meant to be a commentary on Climate Change or Global Warming. ... Cold OR warm outbreaks, by themselves, are not signs of Climate Change."

Ferrell later added, "My blog entry was not meant to cover all the weather on the Globe in July, it was meant to cover the unusually cool weather that most of the U.S. has experienced this month. I even went out of my way to mention the Southwest Heat Wave, but clearly some readers were only skimming." Further, in his post, Ferrell reported that "[t]he year, overall, from a records perspective, is still biased to record-breaking highs" [emphases in original].

Climate scientists reject notion that short-term changes in weather bear any relevance to the global warming debate. As Media Matters for America has previously noted, according to a March 2, 2008, New York Times article, climate scientists -- including at least one who has disputed aspects of the scientific consensus on global warming -- completely reject the notion that short-term changes in weather, let alone "record low temps" in July, bear any relevance to the global warming debate.

Fox Nation echoes conservative pattern of claiming short-term weather changes dispute global warming

Conservatives, including Matt Drudge, have previously suggested that a few days of cold weather trump climate change science. As Media Matters has noted, on March 2, Drudge posted the headline " 'Largest public protest of global warming' ever in USA faces DC March snowstorm!" which was later echoed by other conservative media figures.

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    • Author by shaggles (July 29, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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      Not that local weather has jack sh!t to do with global climate but the temp in Seattle today is 102. That's a record BTW.
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      • Author by neon desert (July 29, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
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        That's just God punishing you for perpetrating the Global Warming hoax.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 30, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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          He should be punishing us for making people think it's OK to pay $4 for a cup of coffee.
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      • Author by pete592 (July 29, 2009 9:21 pm ET)
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        106 in Portland.
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        • Author by harley (July 30, 2009 11:14 am ET)
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          Did Portland have a gay pride parade lately? Because it's a well established reich-wing "fact" that God punishes cities that endorse such events.
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          • Author by mr. l (July 30, 2009 11:51 am ET)
               
            Portland smells funny...
            Seattle's being punished for continuing to enable the Mariners and the (not so super anymore!) Sonics.
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            • Author by pete592 (July 30, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
                 
              Sonics are no more, so Seattle can no longer enable them even if they wanted to.
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            • Author by shaggles (July 30, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
                 
              The Mariners are having an OK season. The Sonics moved to Oklahoma City or something. Good riddance.
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          • Author by pete592 (July 30, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
               
            We have a recently elected gay mayor.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 30, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
             
          Wow. That's hot. But I think Portland tends to be a little warmer than Seattle. Our previous record high was 100 and really anything over 90 is fairly rare.
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      • Author by shaggles (July 30, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
           
        Actually the official temp wound up at 103. I stayed with a friend who has air conditioning and the temp outside his place was 104.
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    • Author by arrgh.paine (July 29, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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      Disputing the opinion of over 2000 scientists in the IPCC based on a sliver of one months data for one portion of the globe sounds exactly like the talking heads of the right. These are after all the same folks saying that the Democrat's health care system is going to euthanize old people.
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    • Author by Appleboy (July 29, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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      Given the size of the United States and that July is 1/12th of a year, we are looking at 1/2% of the global data for a year. Hell, even 1 year is to short of a time frame to draw any conclusions.
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    • Author by funnymanpants (July 29, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
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      So if there is a record cold day in Boston in April (say, 15 degrees Fahrenheit), that is proof that the Northern Hemisphere is not warming up, and that summer won't come. Really.
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    • Author by shawnpr (July 29, 2009 9:27 pm ET)
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      There is plenty of empirical evidence to suggest global warming is not happening. Why would the establishment not be open to hearing it. What is the real agenda? Do they want to be right or wise?
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      • Author by neon desert (July 30, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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        That's an interesting point. Considering the "establishment" is the society of formally trained scientists who collect and analyze climate and oceanic data and have - on that basis - concluded that the climate is changing, why wouldn't they be open to opinions from woodshed meteorologists armed with local temperature records from the last 3 years and anecdotes of remarkable contemporary weather?
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    • Author by mybrotherskeeper (July 30, 2009 12:37 am ET)
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      According to The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration), "June's land and sea surface temperatures were the second hottest on record, and scientists are predicting this will be the warmest decade in recorded history." So this FOX News nonsense is all the more outrageous.
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    • Author by eagleballer44 (July 30, 2009 12:47 am ET)
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      Okay let me ask all of you what would have to happen so that climate change would be proven false?

      Because every excuse anybody ever brings up people just say you cant say that that doesnt disprove it at all.

      It was called global warming and once it got cold you had to change it to climate change. Now its CO2 gas which comes from things like farts which are pretty hard to stop. So please tell me what has to happen so it can be prove wrong?
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      • Author by hubble (July 30, 2009 4:31 am ET)
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        Okay let me ask all of you what would have to happen so that climate change would be proven false?

        My question, how much more proof other than the combined pier reviewed work of 2600 scientist in 130 countries, who happen to be actual experts in the field working with the most advanced technology in the history of mankind, all of who have concluded that climate change is real and man is contributing to it do you need?
        I realize that conservatives by nature don't trust science or any new fangled things, choosing to rely on the old ways, like treating fever by blood letting, and relying on ground rhino horns for impotence cure instead of taking Viagra........Wait, Rush Limbaugh does endorce Viagra when he takes his trips to the child prostitution capital of the Western Hemisphere so that might be a bad example, but the point is cons prefer the old fashioned ways, like the medicine man selling snake oil, instead of the new science tested cures.

        So please tell me what has to happen so it can be proven right?
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      • Author by truthseeker77 (July 30, 2009 5:59 am ET)
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        You said "it was called global warming and once it got cold you had to change it to climate change."

        But when did it "get cold"?
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        • Author by hubble (July 30, 2009 6:32 am ET)
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          Truthseeker,
          You just don't get it, Fauxnews said it, so it must be true.
          What I find amusing is that Mr. Science doesn't understand why the the names have changed. Of course the answer is they haven't.

          The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency explains it this way.
          "The term climate change is often used as if it means the same thing as the term global warming. According to the National Academy of Sciences, however, “the phrase ‘climate change’ is growing in preferred use to ‘global warming’ because it helps convey that there are [other] changes in addition to rising temperatures.” Climate change refers to any distinct change in measures of climate lasting for a long period of time. In other words, “climate change” means major changes in temperature, rainfall, snow, or wind patterns lasting for decades or longer."

          In simpler terms if the amount of snow decreases over time it's climate change, which is related to other climate changes like Global Warming.

          For the scientifically challenged, put simply global warming IS part of climate change.

          Of course some people still think rain is the angels crying and no amount of science will convince them otherwise, these people are almost always conservative by nature.
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    • Author by freddiethej (July 31, 2009 10:59 am ET)
         
      The only constant of climate over time is that it changes. In the future it will be either hotter or colder that it is now. As I see it, the dangers of another ice age to human populations is much greater than the dangers of warming. 12,000 years ago, where I sit right now, there were hundreds of feet of ice. Therefore, I think we should do everything in our power to avoid that possibility. Bring on the co2!
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      • Author by mybrotherskeeper (July 31, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
           
        "As I see it .." Yes, that is always a good approach to take to a scientific question. Just give your unsupported opinion. Just great.
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    • Author by Scott A. Mandia (July 31, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
         
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