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Claiming Obama "lost control of the narrative," Liasson and Wallace advance health-care reform falsehoods

August 02, 2009 4:47 pm ET — 13 Comments

While discussing whether President Obama "lost control of the narrative of health care," NPR's Mara Liasson and Fox News' Chris Wallace advanced the falsehoods that health-care reform is estimated to cost $1 trillion over 10 years and would be funded by broad-based tax increases. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office has found that the only complete bill to be given a cost estimate "would result in a net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion over the 2010-2019 period"; moreover, its proposed tax increases would only apply to the wealthiest Americans.

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From the August 2 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:

LIASSON: I actually don't agree with that, although I do say NPR had a new poll this week where we also showed the president's approval rating at 53, and we have a minus-5 on health care, but very similar -- different numbers, but the same spread.

WALLACE: You were able to get the plug in for NPR.

LIASSON: Yes, I was able to get the plug in, as I know you would do if you were in my situation. However, I think what's happening is not just substance. In the NPR poll, when we actually tested the president's argument, health care did better. It flipped. When you asked people, from what you've heard about the president's plan, are you for or against it, they're against it. But the fact is, what have they been hearing? It has a $1 trillion price tag over 10 years, it's going to raise your taxes. I think --

WALLACE: Well, aren't those both true?

LIASSON: -- I think this is a result of the president's legislative strategy. He left this up to Congress, and Congress -- what have we seen from Congress? Very, very messy. Democrats divided. Plans that don't do what the president wanted them to do: bend the cost curve down, be deficit neutral. He has, I think, to a large extent, lost control of the narrative of health care, and that's one of the reasons his numbers are going down.

Suggestion the bill has a $1 trillion "price tag" is false

CBO found that the House tri-committee bill would increase the federal budget deficit by $239 billion over 10 years -- not $1 trillion. In its July 17 cost estimate of the bill as introduced, CBO explained that its "estimate reflects a projected 10-year cost of the bill's insurance coverage provisions of $1,042 billion, partly offset by net spending changes that CBO estimates would save $219 billion over the same period, and by revenue provisions that [the Joint Committee on Taxation] estimates would increase federal revenues by about $583 billion over those 10 years." CBO thus concluded the legislation "would result in a net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion over the 2010-2019 period."

Wallace and Liasson join New York Times, CNBC's Bartiromo, Fox News' Rove in advancing false cost estimate. During the July 27 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, CNBC host Maria Bartiromo falsely asserted as fact that the health care reform proposal under consideration in Congress would cost a "trillion dollars over 10 years." Likewise, a July 28 New York Times article falsely reported that the House health care reform bill is "estimated at $1 trillion over 10 years." During the July 29 edition of Fox News' Hannity, Fox News political contributor Karl Rove claimed that House Democrats were "planning on a 1 trillion, 420 billion -- 420 million dollar price tag of additional spending over the next 10 years."

Suggestion that Obama will "raise taxes" on all Americans is false

Surtax in House bill applies only to income exceeding $350,000 per year for joint filers. The legislation would establish a 1 percent tax on joint income exceeding $350,000 but not greater than $500,000 per year; a 1.5 percent tax on joint income exceeding $500,000 but not greater than $1 million per year; and a 5.4 percent tax on joint income exceeding $1 million per year. Single filers would be subject to the surtax starting at income exceeding $280,000 per year.

"Only the highest earning 1.2 percent of American households will pay a surcharge for health care reform." In a July 15 Huffington Post piece, Rep. George Miller (D-CA) stated that, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, "[o]nly the highest earning 1.2 percent of American households will pay a surcharge."

Transcript

From the August 2 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:

WALLACE: Well, Bill Kristol, the president understandably bragging about the economy because it has been a tough month for him. And take a look at some of these recent poll numbers. According to a Wall Street Journal survey, Mr. Obama's job approval has dropped from plus-34 in February to plus-13 now. And take a look at this. In June, when asked whether the Obama health care plan was a good or bad idea, the margin was plus-1. Now it's minus-6. So, Bill Kristol, what's going on?

KRISTOL: He's losing the debate on substance, honestly. It's not just that the Repub -- I mean, Senator DeMint is an impressive spokesman for the opposition to President Obama. Mike Pence as well. But it's not as if Republicans have glitzy ads out there or have come up with brilliant catchphrases. They're having a very big, substantive debate on health care, on the role of government, on debt and the deficit, and I think the Republicans are winning it. And it's damaging -- you know, President Obama's approval is going down for policy reasons, not for personal reasons.

WALLACE: Do you agree with that, Mara?

LIASSON: I actually don't agree with that, although I do say NPR had a new poll this week where we also showed the president's approval rating at 53, and we have a minus-5 on health care, but very similar -- different numbers, but the same spread.

WALLACE: You were able to get the plug in for NPR.

LIASSON: Yes, I was able to get the plug in, as I know you would do if you were in my situation. However, I think what's happening is not just substance. In the NPR poll, when we actually tested the president's argument, health care did better. It flipped. When you asked people, from what you've heard about the president's plan, are you for or against it, they're against it. But the fact is, what have they been hearing? It has a $1 trillion price tag over 10 years, it's going to raise your taxes. I think --

WALLACE: Well, aren't those both true?

LIASSON: -- I think this is a result of the president's legislative strategy. He left this up to Congress, and Congress -- what have we seen from Congress? Very, very messy. Democrats divided. Plans that don't do what the president wanted them to do: bend the cost curve down, be deficit neutral. He has, I think, to a large extent, lost control of the narrative of health care, and that's one of the reasons his numbers are going down.

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    • Author by dmac (August 02, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
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      Let's take control of the narative, one congressman at a time.

      If I might suggest that we start with Rep. Tom Price (R-GA 6th). Price is one of the more vocal and dishonest opponents to health meaningful health care reform.

      Every month Tom Price posts a poll on his web site in which visitors can vote. This month he is asking "Do you favor the president's health care plan?" As of a couple of minutes ago, a slim majority showed that a majority favors Obama's plan. This is amazing!

      You can help by taking just a second to vote.
      http://tom.house.gov/index.cfm

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    • Author by Eric Jaffa (August 02, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
         
      cost = spending

      If this article is implying that reporters should use "$239 billion" as the cost, which is the "net increase in the federal budget deficit," then I disagree.

      When a man buys a TV set for $1,000, and it doesn't create any personal debt for him, the cost of the TV set is $1,000, not zero.
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    • Author by Dr Rick (August 02, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
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      Ms Liasson's claim that "It has a $1 trillion price tag over 10 years" seems to square pretty well with the CBO's projected "10-year cost of the bill’s insurance coverage
      provisions of $1,042 billion."
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (August 02, 2009 8:38 pm ET)
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        Thats false per the above article.
        How much will it cost us to do nothing about rising health costs?
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    • Author by my4cents (August 02, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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      I have not read one word about this article but I have to say this.
      Liasson is a hack. And, NPR will continue to miss my monetary contributions as long as this hack and Juan Williams are associated with this organization and appear on Fixed News.
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (August 02, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
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      And when was the last time a government estimate came in on target or high?
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    • Author by National_Insecurity (August 03, 2009 12:38 am ET)
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      What's $24 billion a year? (That's $239 divided by 10 years)

      That is the cost of 8-10 weeks of Iraq at current "reduced" spending.

      Viewed through the other end of the telescope, even the worst-case scenario of $100 billion a year ($1 trillion over 10 year) is far less than our current spending in Iraq.

      Health Security or National Insecurity? We can choose.
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    • Author by nerzog (August 03, 2009 9:21 am ET)
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      It's interesting; I keep hearing these overpaid bobbleheads pondering in wide-eyed wonder how Obama's numbers are declining, and that the public's support for Healthcare reform is lukewarm at best, as if they don't know why.

      They will not address the simple fact that the Republicans and their Talk Radio Parrots have been disseminating lies like a manure spreader for months. Every time a Republican gets in front of a microphone, he/she spouts off the memorized talking points, rarely if ever challenged by the "reporter" doing the interview.

      If the Press would do its job and correct the lies, the numbers would be quite different.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (August 03, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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      She did not say it cost 1 trillion, she said that is what people have been hearing and that is accurate. That misinformation got out there and no one is doing a lot to debunk it. She never answered Wallace's return question and we all know Wallace is NOT his DAD.
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (August 03, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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        "People have been saying the earth is flat." However fallacious that statement, it is an accurate statement that some people do indeed say the earth is flat.

        People who repeat fallacious statements no longer seem to care, in fact, they seem to be hired, rewarded, promoted, and given more prominent slots in our media.

        I was speaking with a Canadian friend of mine who moved from the US back to Canada when his wife was expecting a child. He's watching the disinformation campaign with disgust. He's also lived in Europe and wonders how American TV and radio can be so full of disinformation
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    • Author by shaggles (August 03, 2009 11:39 am ET)
         
      I'm thinking the opposite is true. Obama seems to be the only one staying on point.
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 03, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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      I'm sure Mr. Kristol feels much more comfortable lying about President Obama's health care reform with Mr. Wallace than, say, oh, I don't know? Jon Stewart, just as an example? There is a -reason- that The Daily Show is considered a source of news. They actually practice journalism, along with the comedy.
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    • Author by ufleirx (August 03, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
         
      While certainly their facts and intent are in question. I am giving them the "lost control of the narrative of health care," part. Before the election this legislation getting passed was a done deal.

      However, Obama in some misguided effort to appease people who can be reasoned with -- no not Muslims or North Korea -- but Blue Dog Democrats and GOP'ers has treaded lightly around this issue. You have the super-duper majority with secret handshake. It is time to break some backs -- where's your chief-of-staff's legendary toughness? Threaten to support a second democratic challenger in the primaries or if that fails a independent in the election. "What? Yes, a Republican may win but hey if you are in my way what is the difference?"

      Obama has lost control of the narrative and I know it because Evan Bayh and his ilk are making the Sunday circuit instead of sitting in the corner looking like a punch drunk boxer in the 15th round. (Sorry for the sports metaphor. I had a much more brutal image that referenced HBO's OZ but I did not think it would have gotten through the moderators.)
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