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Hour 3: Limbaugh Defends Health Care Protests Again: "Genuine Grassroots"

August 04, 2009 3:59 pm ET — 17 Comments

This hour of the Limbaugh Wire brought to you by Astroturfing, which Republicans aren't using, but if they were using, it's only because liberals started using it first
By Greg Lewis

The third hour began with Rush reading from a Red State blog post claiming that the White House was calling for "informants." The post pointed to a White House blog post requesting readers to send in false emails and other "disinformation" they come across regarding health care reform. Rush characterized this as the White House asking its "groupies" to "snitch" on people telling the truth about health care reform. And, this being The Rush Limbaugh Show, everything went straight downhill from there.

You see, according to Rush, the White House asking for "informants" is "parallel" to what is going on in Iran right now:

LIMBAUGH: There's a parallel going on in the world right now to this bunch that's running this country, and the parallel is Iran. They supposedly had a fair election. The people of Iran didn't think it was fair, they think it was a fraudulent election, and they started protesting in the streets. They -- even the people of Iran, this was too much to swallow.

The mullahs were just putting one over 'em. They wanted a reform candidate to win. They didn't think any of this -- they didn't think Ahmadinejad was the legitimate winner. They started protesting, and what was the result? The government went out and started cracking heads. Started putting people in jail. Some people have died as a result of government treatment when they were in the protests.

And now, you've got the White House asking people, its groupies, to be informants?

He also made this vague historical reference:

LIMBAUGH: So, this is, again, this has happened before in human history. Parents, whose minds weren't right, parents who were saying things against the regime, their children were supposed to inform on them. And so, now, the Obama administration is genuinely, legitimately asking for informants.

Then Rush moved on to Astroturfing, noting that many of the health care town hall protests are being described as such, but arguing that it was actually White House senior adviser David Axelrod who "invented" this strategy. Rush read a March 2008 Business Week article about the "secret side" of Axelrod. After a quick Bill Clinton sex joke, Rush said that liberals are accusing them of doing what they invent and do everyday, but the health care protests are "genuine grassroots." People are genuinely opposed to fraud and deceit being jammed down everybody's throat. Yes, it's so genuine and spontaneous that a) there is a memo going around giving these people very specific instructions on how to Astroturf, b) the organizers themselves are bragging about how they're flooding the town halls with people, and c) the anti-reform group, Consumers for Patients' Rights, is publically taking credit for "helping gin up the sometimes-rowdy outbursts" at the town hall events.

After the break, Rush took a caller who has been unemployed since being laid off last February, and was concerned that the administration is rushing so many things that they're forgetting about creating more jobs. Rush added that the Obama administration is also "doing everything it can to prevent this economy from rebounding." The caller went on to echo one of Rush's favorite falsehoods, that under health care reform, if his wife's insurance plan were to change, then they would lose the plan and would have to switch to the public option (see Hour 1 for rebuttal).

Returning from another break, Rush replayed, for the third time, his new "comedy" skit about "ObamaCare" he first aired in the previous hour. Then he aired an audio clip of then-Sen. Hillary Clinton in 2003 saying that she was sick of people saying it is unpatriotic to disagree with the Bush administration. Rush quipped that it still hurts his deaf ears to listen to that. Now the White House is asking informants to send them the "names" of people "being critical" of health care reform.

Moving on, Rush addressed Obama's lunch today with Senate Democratic leaders. First, he aired an audio clip of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) describing the lunch as a "pep talk." Rush said that in sports, you only need pep talks when something is wrong -- so that must mean there is panic in the White House. He went on to read a "snarky" post on ABC's The Note about the Democratic luncheon.

Then Rush noted that Obama went to the White House press room today to celebrate Helen Thomas' birthday (it's her birthday today, too). He described their interaction: "Obama said that Helen wished for health care reform. Helen you're 89, be careful what you're wishing for here." Rush continued: "Helen Thomas is 89 years old. If Obama health care passes, Helen Thomas is soon to be put out to pasture at Statist Farm. First time she gets sick, it's going to be judged not worth it."

Next, Rush took a call from a woman who said that Americans are starting to wake up and let their representatives know they're not happy. Rush took this as an opportunity to rehash his new favorite conspiracy theory, telling the caller that "the only way you can insure 50 million more people and not add any more doctors is to make sure certain people die, and the right people dying will also save us some Social Security money." The caller responded by saying they can't have the power if we don't give it to them. Rush went on to explain that if they passed health care, it would be difficult to turn back, but Rush noted that he is an optimist and thinks that something "that bad will not be tolerated."

One more break, and Rush returned with an AP article reporting that National Guard troops might be needed in an Alabama county which made steep spending cuts in the face of a budget crisis. Rush figured that a red state like Alabama wouldn't get a whole lot of stimulus money. In fact, Alabama appears to have gotten a reasonable share of the stimulus money, with per capita allocation of funds on par with blue states like Maryland and Wisconsin.

Then Rush decried Transportation Secretary Roy LaHood's apparent hypocrisy during his appearances on MSNBC yesterday. Earlier in the day, he told Andrea Mitchell about the environmental benefits of cash for clunkers by getting old gas guzzlers off the road, but told Chris Matthews later in the day that if he bought a new car, it would be a Ford Explorer. Rush cried out that LaHood wasn't even being loyal to Obama, because Obama "doesn't own Ford yet."

Finally, Rush took one last caller who claimed that liberals invented Astroturfing. Rush said liberals think conservatives are as trashy, duplicitous, and lying as they are. The caller went on to mention Obama's church, to which Rush responded that Obama went to his church to "establish cred" and also because he liked the message of "black socialism" and black liberation theology.

That's it for the Limbaugh Wire today. We'll be back for another round of punishment tomorrow. If we weren't, how would the Limbaugh Wire archives ever achieve its unstated goal of being the most thorough collection of Limbaugh-related snark on the Internets?

Simon Maloy, Zachary Aronow, and Zachary Pleat contributed to this edition of the Limbaugh Wire.

Highlights from Hour 3

Outrageous comments

LIMBAUGH: I'm going to tell you who this bunch reminds me of. There's a parallel going on in the world right now to this bunch that's running this country, and the parallel is Iran. They supposedly had a fair election. The people of Iran didn't think it was fair, they think it was a fraudulent election, and they started protesting in the streets. They -- even the people of Iran, this was too much to swallow.

The mullahs were just putting one over 'em. They wanted a reform candidate to win. They didn't think any of this -- they didn't think Ahmadinejad was the legitimate winner. They started protesting, and what was the result? The government went out and started cracking heads. Started putting people in jail. Some people have died as a result of government treatment when they were in the protests.

And now, you've got the White House asking people, its groupies, to be informants?

[...]

LIMBAUGH: So, this is, again, this has happened before in human history. Parents, whose minds weren't right, parents who were saying things against the regime, their children were supposed to inform on them. And so, now, the Obama administration is genuinely, legitimately asking for informants.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: This administration not only is not focusing on jobs and the economy at the expense of health care, it is doing everything it can to prevent this economy from rebounding.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Oh, by the way, Obama went to the press room to celebrate Helen Thomas' birthday today. Helen Thomas and Obama have the same birthday. Obama said that Helen wished for health care reform. Helen you're 89, be careful what you're wishing for here.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Helen Thomas is 89 years old. If Obama health care passes, Helen Thomas is soon to be put out to pasture at Statist Farm. First time she gets sick, it's going to be judged not worth it.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: The only way you can insure 50 million more people and not add any more doctors is to make sure certain people die --

CALLER: Exactly.

LIMBAUGH: -- and the right people dying will also save us some Social Security money.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 04, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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      EL FLUSHBO knows the truth that rhese protests are organized by the RIGHT WING FREE MARKETERS, insurance industry and others that stand to lose if health care reform is passed. RUSH lies every time he draws a breath. He is a pathetic excuse for a human being.
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      • Author by logicrules (August 04, 2009 7:18 pm ET)
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        You do understand that it is you who stands to lose if health care "reform" is passed. You will lose freedom of choice. But then, maybe that isn't important to you?
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      • Author by taliesin (August 04, 2009 8:49 pm ET)
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        So where is the proof that the protests are not genuine? Or are you working on the premise that "If Limbaugh said it it must be false"?


        All of America stands to lose if Obamacare is passed.
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        • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 05, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
             
          tailsin, you, sir, dont know what you are talking about.
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      • Author by Unreality (August 04, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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        Don't call them "Free Marketers" unless you append a (sic).

        They're crony capitalists, which Adam Smith warned in Wealth of Nations would pervert the government to their own benefit. Yep, Adam Smith was prescient, but you'll never hear El Rushbo mention that part of Smith's work.

        The Bush/Cheney years were the pinnacle of crony capitalism.
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    • Author by Indy (August 04, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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      YF-22 Fighter: 159 to 180 million a copy and it has operational trouble in rain. Osprey V-22: Twenty billion to develop yet troops can’t even deploy from it in a hover. It is a mechanical “hangar queen”. Defense industry spending has increase around 128% in the last 8 years. The combined yearly defense spending of the 30 largest countries in the world, in total, would basically equal what the US spends alone every year. We have millions of people living under the financial terrorism of losing everything they own and have saved due to the possibility of a serious illness and all the right wing can do is lie and tell us how safe we were under Bush. Rush is paid handsomely to lie on behalf of these corporate regimes. He is spreading unfounded fear and packaging it in lies. They are desperate and basically pooping their collective pants at the thought of losing the second greatest money making scam since the banking and derivatives fraud. Please America don't fall for it again.
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    • Author by Druidblue (August 04, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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      "Rush got things rolling today by saying that you are facing a challenge: Do you believe your own life and experience, or Obama?"

      I believe in my own life experiences.

      And they 100 percent match the stories and information coming out of Obama's speeches- because he's telling the TRUTH about the state of our nation.

      The Warpublicans believe 100% capitalism is the end-all-be-all, and if you have 20 people in government and just let big business rule everything, the world would be perfect. Well, my life experiences prove that big business does what big business cares about most- maximize their money without a drop of regard to who they crush in their path, the impact they have upon the environment, or the impression they make on the world.

      After all, those poor executives (who haven't even come close to working as hard as I have, when I worked 8 years straight, 7 days a weeks 12-24 hours a day)... those poor guys have a right to $250 million in bonuses to go with their multi-million dollar salaries, because dammit, even though they have lower IQ's than you, have done less work, and don't have any compassion, they KNEW people that allowed them to climb into positions that don't require any true effort. And how will those poor guys survive if you take away 10 or 20 million? Why, they might as well be broke! Same difference, right?

      There are definitely a large number of people- I'd say larger than those who DO want Obama's plan to pass- who are legitimately against the health care reform. The problem is they are basing their information on lies and the disinformation and spin the likes of Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh and their ilk are passing off.

      But there's no question whatsoever that these "mobs" are Warpublican-driven attempts to make reform fail and maintain the status quo- and our 37th place health care system that is allowing people like me, at 37, to die early because those on the 'right' don't want to help their fellow citizens.

      After all, I could just go work and get insurance, so what am I bitching about? Well, other than the fact I need health care BEFORE I can get work, and of course under our system I can't GET quality, free, full health care. And what minimal care I do receive, I get stuck with thousand dollar bills that I can't (and won't) pay- so these morons are paying for my care ANYWAYS in higher premiums. The difference is- under the current system they're denying me the ability to see a REAL, quality doctor instead of being limited to a Nurse Practitioner who told me she never wanted to treat adults in the first place.

      Every day I wake up in this once great nation, I get so depressed when I see how far down the path towards a collapse the likes of Rome the Warpublicans have taken us.
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    • Author by wzwriter (August 04, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
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      Yep - these "grassroots" are as genuine as Astroturf....
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      • Author by eddiebear2 (August 04, 2009 11:37 pm ET)
           
        Axelrod knows about astroturfing.

        Seriously, you are just upset that the ACORN bus trips, Code Pink disruptions, and union professional protesting machines have competition. Suddenly, organized protests are bad?
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 05, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
             
          When they are paid performers, hired by the insurance lobby, to make sure that nothing ever shanges, by misinofrming people so that their corporate bosses can continue to make billions by denying people helath care, YES, organized protest are bad.

          There is no reason freedom of speech should extend to corporation. FREE speech should have to be bought or paid for. (It should be given for FREE - duh!)

          Corporate influence on gov't is as damaginf and destructive to the public good as religious influence on gov't. It's no wonder the republicans chose these two to ally with.
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    • Author by pags2 (August 04, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
         
      Sure, these protests are grassroots. I believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny too.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 05, 2009 2:16 am ET)
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        As genuine as Oily Taintz's eyelashes.

        You have to admire how Rush cracked the White House code.

        Although they clearly ask for people to " send in false emails and other "disinformation" they come across regarding health care reform" Rush knows that in his world, this translates as groupies snitching on people telling the truth about health care reform.

        I think Boss Hogg made an accidental confession. "Disinformation" and 'False" statements translate literally to "truth" to America's Truth Detector.

        Anybody still unclear about what Rush's job is?

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    • Author by pilotshark (August 05, 2009 10:01 am ET)
         
      So isnt grass roots movements of a up rasing of people from all walks.
      and not like>>>>> oh wait i think i got it.

      what rushbo is saying that its a grassroots of new republicans yea thats the ticket these are the grass roots of the new up coming crop of right wing isolationism.
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    • Author by gandalf1974 (August 05, 2009 10:09 am ET)
         
      I just wanted to take a moment and let all of you conspiracy theorists out there know that I am a real person and I'm opposed to Obama's Health Care "reform" and would protest if there was a town hall near me. I don't work for an insurance company, I haven't been paid by anyone, I am just genuinely upset at the way the President is taking this country. Please stop saying I'm fake/phony/paid/coerced/whatever.

      Please feel free to email me to verify that I'm a real person and genuine in my thoughts and beliefs. Aaron: olmstean@email.uc.edu
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 05, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
         
      "Helen Thomas is 89 years old. If Obama health care passes, Helen Thomas is soon to be put out to pasture at Statist Farm. First time she gets sick, it's going to be judged not worth it."

      THAT. IS. WHAT . HAPPENS. NOW!!!!

      ONLY IT HAPPENS TO YOUNG, WORKING PEOPLE, WHO HAVE BEEN PAYING THEIR PREMIUMS!!!!

      WHAT. A. F---ING LYING SCUMBAG!!!!
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