Three days after warning against violence, Beck tells "Pelosi" he poisoned her wine
Just three days after imploring his viewers to refrain from "violence," warning them that "just one lunatic, like Timothy McVeigh, could ruin everything," and saying that "it is your patriotic duty to stop" someone who is thinking or talking about turning violent, Glenn Beck staged a scene in which he gave a glass of wine to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and then said, "I put poison in your -- no, I -- I look forward to all the policy discussions that we're supposed to have."
August 3: Beck implores his viewers to reject "violence"
Beck: "Your interaction with [members of Congress] needs to be respectful, polite, forceful, and peaceful."
BECK: The best thing that you can do right now is to let Congress know that you are watching them like a hawk. You show up. You let them feel your burning gaze on them at all times. But here's the thing that I am concerned about. Your interaction with them needs to be respectful, polite, forceful, and peaceful. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 8/3/09]
Beck: "But just one lunatic, like Timothy McVeigh, could ruin everything that everyone has worked so hard for."
BECK: These people in Washington have no idea what they have done. They have awakened a sleeping giant. But just one lunatic, like Timothy McVeigh, could ruin everything that everyone has worked so hard for, because these people in Washington won't pass up the use of an emergency. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 8/3/09]
Beck: "If you ever
hear someone thinking about or talking about turning violent, it is your
patriotic duty to stop them."
BECK: There is no excuse for violence. Our founders sailed across the ocean, battled killer storms, smallpox. They vomited for three months on a tiny little wooden ship with a bed sheet for a sail just to get a grievance before the king. They did that for 20 long years.
What have we done? Oh, I sent an email. I made a phone call. They won't even listen to me anymore. So the next logical progression is email, phone, a gun? Only for a crazy person.
If you ever hear someone thinking about or talking about turning violent, it is your patriotic duty to stop them. The only way to save our republic is to remain peaceful -- forceful but peaceful. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 8/3/09]
August 6: Beck talks about "put[ting] poison" in Pelosi's wine
BECK: So, Speaker Pelosi, I just wanted to -- you gonna drink your wine? Are you blind? Do those eyes not work? There you -- I want you to drink it now. Drink it. Drink it. Drink it.
I really just wanted to thank you for having me over here to wine country. You know, to be invited, I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not.
By the way, I put poison in your -- no, I -- I look forward to all the policy discussions that we're supposed to have -- you know, on health care, energy reform, and the economy. [Fox News' Glenn Beck 8/6/09]
You could use some glasses. Do you really think that Beck intended to "terrorize" Pelosi with his joke?
Great use of our terrorist investigative resources.
Excellent stance there, Mr. Select-O-Vision. You DO live up to your latest alias.
That doesn't logically follow. If you give yourself a thumbs-down, it still counts.
Just like if Glenn Beck claims that a threat is "just a joke", it still counts.
I don't think it's worth it either, but would this divert the entirety of DHS resources? Exaggerate much, Tommy?
Bill O'Reilly should be off the air. He, along with Beck, Hannity are all sociopaths.
However, to assume that Beck's rhetoric has not encouraged the less stable members of his audience to go do something stupid would be foolish, given the National Guard base incident.
Please note that there is no reference to skin color, religious beliefs or national origin in the definition. Beck and his ilk are terrorists.
ESJ
I don't agree with those who believe our terrorist investigative resources be used to investigate Glenn Beck for him comment on national television about Nancy Pelosi, that is specifically referenced in this piece by MMfA.
This is for those whose intelligence is compartmentalized with gimmicks and garbage. See above.
You comment as though you have some legal background, but then suggest that Beck should be investigated by the feds for a "pattern of remarks that encourages uncivil discourse and general dissatisfaction with the government to the point of being a scofflaw." You're comment sounds like it comes straight out "Gulag Archipelago."
In the real world, in this country, restraints or punishments on our first amendment rights are few and far between. That means a person's right to voice his opinion is given great latitude, even if it's on the fringes, particularly when it comes to political speech. Beck's comments come nowhere close to unprotected speech, for which any criminal or civil penalty may be imposed.
If you don't know the law, you shouldn't try spouting it.
yesterday a liberal talk show host said he hoped Glenn Beck blew his brains out on national TV. His name is Malloy. He even went after Becks mother because she commited suicide.Media Matters did not even bother to comment on this.
I did not listen to Beck, but was he being saterical you know the way letterman was about the Palin kid?
And, for the record, I do not agree with what Malloy said.
After all, YOU said this was about Beck. So Malloy has no play here.
Are you posting here because you want to get even with what liberals do or because of something you believe in?
On the other hand, I totally agree that Beck should be fired - he's ignorant and awful, disingenuous and dishonest, and adds less than zero to any public discourse. But that's probably why Fox loves him!
That's how they justify everything in their insane world. Libs do something 'bad' so that makes it AOK for the cons to do something similar while condemning it at the same time.
Say hi to the security guard at the entrance.
I am not defending Beck. He is a nut. He may even have listeners who are actually dangerous. But, the way to stop this is to end the value that he brings to his employer, not by getting the federal government involved. I think if there is an investigation to be had, it would be whether or not his employers should be able to market themselves as a news channel while spreading transparent propaganda.
What a paltry pathetic backpeddling piece of baloney that is.
And in case you hadn't noticed, Beck's words have an impact in the real world. He doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are maniacs who are hanging on his every syllable. This is why we get "bent out of shape" when he says something this inflammatory. But by telling us that you couldn't care less, you're telling us that you don't think that assassination fantasies are inflammatory.
Then you decided to display your deep-seated authoritarianism by pledging your full support of the "enforcement of all laws in each jurisdiction" blah blah blah. This trait of yours is always comical to me, because you take the rule of law to its extreme when the offender is a liberal, but when it's a conservative...
You always say that, when once again your mangled rhetoric jumps ahead of any glimmer of a clear thought and then ends up in written form. You obviously thought Beck was threatening an elected official which is the only way your post made any sense. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted what you did. You can backpedal and backtrack all you want, but if you just opted for honesty instead you wouldn't spin yourself around looking like a fool.
No, that's the only way it makes sense to you because you are a classic concrete thinker, and you take everything at its most literal meaning. I've already explained to you that I personally don't think that Beck broke any laws.
Then why specifically did you direct this question to me on this thread about Glenn Beck? And try to keep answer away from drifting down your maze of rhetorical nonsense and just be direct, for once. Instead of your "concrete thinker" baloney. That's just code when you can't answer it on point, I am not fooled.
Oh, and make sure it makes sense, because so far it hasn't.
Funny- most sane people tend to dismiss stupid and pointless things, then move on. They don't normally obsess over stupid and pointless things, comment endlessly on them, and then go look for other stupid and pointless posts to comment on.
I'm going to try to set an example by ignoring the stupid and pointless things that I see- starting with Right ON and Cheney2012's posts.
Your scoldings always come back to make you look foolish, don't they?
Enjoy your weekend.
Do you believe for a second that if, say, Al Franken had "joked" about poisoning Dennis Hastert that every network out there would have been running the clip for at least a week, and "serious" news outlets like the Washington Post would not have issues sober warnings that Franken should face a criminal investigation?
I do also agree with your assessment of Olbermann as well. I think fishergirl proved this point already by going after some guy named Malloy in an attempt at false equivalence.
However, I think it is important to not get caught up in what is good for the goose analogies when dealing with today's right wing. It is important to stick to principles. Abandoning your principles in favor or party is why I left the Republicans (during the Clinton investigations).
I can tell you that I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of folks like Beck and Rush.
Glenn Beck..... What a stooge!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/7/763357/-Breaking:-wingnut-tweets-followers-to-bring-guns-to-meetings
Did you expect me to condone lawbreaking or shootings?
Most of us see through that.
Come to think of it, pinball is all about keeping the ball in play. Tommy does the same thing here, long after he has tilted.