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Special Report portrays "death panels" falsehood as he said/she said issue

August 14, 2009 2:57 pm ET — 15 Comments

Fox News' Bret Baier repeated Sarah Palin's false assertion that the end-of-life counseling provided for under the House health care reform bill would, in Baier's words, "not be voluntary as the president says." Baier did not note that the counseling would indeed be voluntary and that Palin's suggestion that the legislation would create a "death panel" is false.

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Baier forwards false Palin claim that counseling wouldn't be voluntary

From the August 13 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Bret Baier:

BAIER: Former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says President Obama is misleading the public about what she has called "death panels" in health care reform. Palin contends advanced care planning consultations, which are an element in the House reform legislation, would not be voluntary as the president says. She lays out a detailed rebuttal on her Facebook page. The White House has named Palin as a person spreading wrong information about reform plans.

Palin previously warned of "Obama's 'death panel.' " Palin wrote on August 7:

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.

Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion. [Sarah Palin Facebook post, 8/7/09]

Responding to criticism of "death panel" claim, Palin claims counseling wouldn't be "entirely voluntary." Palin returned to the topic on August 12, writing:

Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly, and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system these "unproductive" members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care.

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The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled "Advance Care Planning Consultation." [2] With all due respect, it's misleading for the President to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients. The issue is the context in which that information is provided and the coercive effect these consultations will have in that context. [Sarah Palin Facebook post, 8/12/09]

End-of-life care counseling provision would, in fact, be voluntary

Provision calls for Medicare to cover voluntary end-of-life counseling sessions. Section 1233 of America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 -- the provision Palin cited -- amends the Social Security Act to ensure that advance care planning will be covered if a patient requests it from a qualified care provider [America's Affordable Health Choices Act, Sec. 1233]. According to an analysis of the bill produced by the three relevant House committees, the section "[p]rovides coverage for consultation between enrollees and practitioners to discuss orders for life-sustaining treatment. Instructs CMS to modify 'Medicare & You' handbook to incorporate information on end-of-life planning resources and to incorporate measures on advance care planning into the physician's quality reporting initiative." [waysandmeans.house.gov, accessed 8/13/09]

PolitiFact: "[T]he patients make the call. That's the definition of voluntary." Responding to Palin's latest Facebook note, PolitiFact.com wrote that Palin's claim that end-of-life counseling that would be covered under the House health care bill is not "entirely voluntary" is "False." PolitiFact.com added, "The fact is that there is nothing in the health care bill that would require people to get the end-of-life counseling. Perhaps, as [Charles] Lane -- and by extension Palin -- argues, patients might feel some subtle pressure from a doctor to get the counseling. But the patients make the call. That's the definition of voluntary. We've said in our previous item that it was voluntary and we see nothing in Palin's argument that proves otherwise. And so we rule her claim False." [PolitiFact.com, 8/13/09]

Palin "death panel" charge is false

PolitiFact: "There's certainly no 'death board.' " PolitiFact.com wrote on August 10:

We've looked at the inflammatory claims that the health care bill encourages euthanasia. It doesn't. There's certainly no "death board" that determines the worthiness of individuals to receive care. Conservatives might make a case that Palin is justified in fearing that the current reform could one day morph into such a board.

But that's not what Palin said. She said that the Democratic plan will ration care and "my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care." Palin's statement sounds more like a science fiction movie (Soylent Green, anyone?) than part of an actual bill before Congress. We rate her statement Pants on Fire!

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    • Author by kfraz43 (August 14, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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      Catch this wording:

      "The White House has named Palin as a person spreading wrong information about reform plans."

      Sounds a little "Minority Report" to me... more Snitch Line paranoia from Cluster Fox?
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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 14, 2009 4:53 pm ET)
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        Agreed. Making the news as usual. Surprised they did not mention the kids.
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      • Author by Dradeeus (August 15, 2009 3:08 am ET)
           
        That's insulting to the people spreading more plausible, thought-out lies about health care reform! Where's their recognition? Good liars need "love" too.
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    • Author by wesley (August 14, 2009 9:37 pm ET)
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      -- However, prevention is not, as so widely advertised, healing on the cheap. It is not the magic bullet for health care costs.

      You will hear some variation of that claim a hundred times in the coming health care debate. Whenever you do, remember: It's nonsense -- empirically demonstrable and CBO-certified. -- [url=]Dr.Charles Krauthammer[/url]
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      • Author by wesley (August 14, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
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        The Preventive Care Myth.
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        • Author by steeve (August 15, 2009 7:34 am ET)
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          Time for a New Rule.

          If you voted for Bush twice, you should not trust yourself with any political statement. You should be sitting in the corner passively observing the political ideas of others, and rebuilding your worldview based on what you find.

          Similarly if you encounter someone else who voted for Bush twice, you should throw away anything they're saying. If they happen to be saying something valid, you just need to hope it's being repeated by someone who didn't vote for Bush twice.
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        • Author by loonz (August 15, 2009 11:17 am ET)
             
          There's too many assumptions in the article. Preventative care could be more expensive but then again it could be less expensive. Also, you would have to assume the numbers are static.
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 16, 2009 12:54 pm ET)
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          Obama never said it was a panacea "magic bullet," so chalk up another lie for wesley...
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      • Author by mari2jj (August 15, 2009 12:04 am ET)
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        hahahahaha Dr. Charles Krauthammer said it so, of course, who could believe it or anything that racist bigot says. He always couches his anti-Obama rhetoric in some silly way but nevertheless it is still silliness and racist to boot. Then there is also Palin who has no idea how to accurately describe health care reform but she will still try in her most feeble way. Even as a life long Republican who also is a retired RN who worked in a huge University Hospital in Texas, I can tell you that her comments equal a pile of muck. She simply knows nothing about the facts in these issues. Sad to say that my party actually covers for this woman but alas, her dullness is still so ever-present. It is so obvious why she drug the McCain ticket into the manure but still she is clueless..
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (August 15, 2009 2:39 am ET)
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          Citing Charles Krauthammer is about as serious as citing Rush Limbaugh.

          This is exactly what I commented on the other day, except I expect it from Fox. The more mainstream networks (that is, moderately conservative as opposed to Fox's GOP infomercial)are framing Truth vs. Lies as two equally valid sides of a debate.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (August 15, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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            As I stated before, I challenge Krautie to a footrace and the loser has to tell the truth forever more.

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    • Author by albertsenj (August 15, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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      Could we give Faux News the benefit of the doubt here and might actually represent sound news judgement?

      I'd say that Palin being wrong happens so often that it no longer qualifies as news.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (August 15, 2009 5:59 pm ET)
           
        We "second" that!!! LOL
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        • Author by Missouri Democrat (August 16, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
             
          Is it just me or are most repubs ignoring the fact that end of ife counseling is already in the Medicare bill just passed a few years ago giving us the "doughnut hole"?
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    • Author by lyvwyr101 (August 16, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
         

      The Brutal Truth about Healthcare in the US


      http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/08/15
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