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Fill-In Steyn Continues To Freak Out Over Obama's Back-To-School Speech

September 03, 2009 3:55 pm ET — 10 Comments

Steyn calls health care reform a "massive annexation" by federal government, continues right-wing freak-out over Obama's back-to-school speech

By Greg Lewis

Mark Steyn, our "undocumented anchorman" filling in for Rush today, began the show continuing to pick on yesterday's dissenting caller, who accused Limbaugh and Steyn of being paid by insurance companies to oppose health care reform. Steyn joked that Rush was being paid off by Halliburton and Whole Foods, and Steyn himself was being paid off by a local feed store.

Moving on to more, uh, serious topics, Steyn talked about Barack Obama's upcoming health care speech before a joint session of Congress. Steyn read from The Washington Post's reporting that Obama will use the opportunity to "flesh out his vision." Steyn quipped that after the speech, study materials will be handed out inviting you to write an essay -- oops, said Steyn, wrong speech, that's his speech for students. He would get back to that topic later, as Steyn quickly moved to another tangent. Apparently spurred on by the Post's use of the word "vision," Steyn made a series of (predictably lame) jokes about the wife of the new Japanese prime minister.

Back on topic, sort of, Steyn compared Obama's fleshing out of his vision to a Martha Stewart craft project. Steyn explained what Obama is doing: he's taking his "grotesque, hobbit-shaped creature" of a vision, and studding it with little glittery specifics. Steyn declared that Obama can give speeches all he wants, but it's not a message or vision issue, it's a substance issue -- the American people understand that this is a massive annexation by the federal government.

Then Steyn addressed the latest news out of a California health care protest, during which a pro-reform protestor apparently bit the finger off an elderly anti-reform protestor. Steyn made some (predictably lame) jokes about this, including claiming that the man was lucky because the waiting time for finger reattachment surgery in Scotland is 18 months.

After the break, Steyn looked at a Politico article about Obama's upcoming prime-time speech, repeating the concern that network execs don't like carrying Obama's speeches because they lose money. Steyn predicted that the more Obama is linked to his "unpopular policies" the more his ratings will nosedive. Obama, said Steyn, has yet to be able to come up with a "five-word rationale" for the "government annexation" of one-sixth of the economy.

Steyn then returned to Obama's upcoming back-to-school speech, explaining that his real objection to it was not the content, but that "telling kids to study hard is not education." Steyn argued the students would be better served spending the hour studying science or history than listening to the president talk about working hard. He also said that when you "beam in the drivel" from the president, you're conflating the head of state with the state, which makes us more like Third World dumps where images of the "president for life" is omnipresent.

Steyn takes caller who claims to have witnessed finger-biting incident at health care protest

After another break, Steyn took a caller who said he was at the California protest and witnessed the finger-biting incident. It's uncertain at this point whether the caller's story lines up with other reporting, but the highlight of the caller's tale was that he claimed he was in the group of people who picked up the man's bitten-off finger and drove it to the hospital. Steyn said that next time Nancy Pelosi says there are Nazis at the protests, we should remember which side is biting off fingers.

The caller after the next commercial break argued that health care reform in America will work out better than it has in Canada and the UK because America is the greatest country in the world, so we would naturally be able to better accomplish it. Steyn argued that the common feature of government health care programs is that the only way to control costs is to restrict services, usually to the elderly.

Then Steyn brought up the latest Drudge special about Britain's National Health Service treatment of terminally ill patients. Steyn said once Medicare is universalized, seniors will get stiffed, which is why they make up a large portion of the protests. They realize they have NHS-style death panels line up for them. Closing out the hour, Steyn argued that if health care reform passes, America would have the most expensive health care in the world, because of the "combo" of government health care and medical malpractice suits. It wil be the biggest disaster in socialized health care ever attempted anywhere, said Steyn. Incidentally, America already has the most expensive health care in the developed world.

Steyn claims he's "not comparing President Obama to Saddam Hussein" when discussing Obama's "cult of personality"

Hour 2 began with Steyn still talking about the last caller. Steyn agreed with the caller's belief in American exceptionalism, but didn't think that would carry over to health care because America is not a "statist morass" in the way so many other countries are. Then Steyn spent some time with the liberal boycott of Whole Foods over CEO John Mackey's stated position on health care reform. Steyn found it interesting that liberals object to Mackey's free-market solution, and stated that the left would rather a "one size fits all" solution.

The next subject up was the latest on Rep. Charlie Rangel's (D-NY) ethics investigation, brought to you by the New York Post. Steyn decried the two-tiered tax system that we have, where rulers impose regulation and rules that they themselves don't follow, and also incorporated Tim Geithner into the discussion. Steyn's answer to all of this was to say the Rangel approach to taxation should apply to all of us; i.e., simplify the tax code.

After the break, Steyn quickly referenced a Miami Herald article about federal stimulus money going to homeless sex offenders before getting back to Rangel. Steyn continued to make his point about simplifying the tax code and ranting about the two-tiered system he argued that Rangel and Geithner were propagating. Steyn also said that Rangel had said criticism of Obama's health care policy is "racist."

Steyn took a caller on the other side of the next break who was concerned about Obama's back-to-school speech, and described some of the activities for students for "after the speech." This prompted Steyn to embark on another rant about how Obama's speech would insert his cult of personality into the education system. Steyn compared this to an anecdote about the way Saddam Hussein's picture was prominently featured in Iraqi school textbooks, adding:

STEYN: What we have here is something that is not -- obviously I'm not saying, I'm not comparing President Obama to Saddam Hussein -- but I am saying that the cult of personality at grade school level is a phenomenon of non-functioning, non-democratic, non-free societies, and it should have no place here.

Steyn argues that purchasing health care should be like purchasing tomatoes

Steyn followed up another break with another caller, who said the Republican leadership had the opportunity to finally drive the final nail into the coffin on the health care debate. Even if Democrats roll back parts of the bill that people don't like, if they pass some kind of reform, "it's a foot in the door." Steyn essentially agreed with the caller, and launched into a rant about free market health care. Steyn argued that if health care were a "straight commercial transaction" -- like purchasing a tomato at a grocery store -- then the cost would be lower since it wouldn't factor in involved parties like the government, insurers, and lawyers (though we're pretty sure there are already numerous middlemen, like the grocers, transporters, lawyers, insurers, and government regulatory agencies, involved in the tomato industry).

Anyway, Steyn continued to discuss his utopian visions of free-market health care. After the caller said that some people just don't have the cash on hand to cover certain health care expenses, Steyn went on to compare paying for health care services to buying cars and homes. People take out loans for big ticket purchases, and the idea that just because there are large sums of money involved in health care, Steyn did not think it was a reason to get government involved. He went on to argue that there are a lot of wealthy people and young people who don't have insurance because they don't want it, and they should have the freedom to choose to opt out of the insurance system.

Steyn got the final hour of today's show going by discussing how once Obama starts going down path of a "Euro-Canadian-sized" welfare state, it can't be undone. Steyn figured the American political scene would move significantly towards the left, like it is in European countries, if health care reform passes. Once that happens, it becomes incredibly difficult to have a genuine conservative government ever again.

The next caller on the program was from British Columbia, and complained about high taxes that pay for their mediocre health care. Steyn told some anecdotes to illustrate what a mess Canadian health care is -- one story was about long waiting times in an emergency room in Quebec. Then Steyn talked about the two kinds of Democrats -- those who think they want to live like Europeans or Canadians, and those who genuinely want a hardcore, left wing society. Before going to a commercial, Steyn told us about a UK mayor who was his "model politician."

Steyn wishes our government were more like Afghanistan's

Steyn devoted the final half hour of today's show to foreign policy, specifically the war in Afghanistan. Steyn attributed the large drop in support of the war to Democrats, who accepted the idea of the war during the Bush years so as not to seem weak when opposing Iraq. Anyway, Steyn went on to explain how nation-building was a waste of time in Afghanistan because they are a "tribal society" that never had a strong federal government. Steyn then realized that he actually quite liked the idea of living in a failed state:

STEYN: The Afghans haven't built a nation in Afghanistan. It's essentially a tribal society in which the village and the tribe are what count and there's a remote national government in Kabul that has absolutely no impact on your life. I wish we could have that system here when I think about it like that.

I'd like to -- I think New Hampshire should be a tribal society with a remote national government thousands of miles away that has no impact on your life. I'd quite like that system. So, on balance, I'd rather Afghans were nation-building in America than Americans nation-building in Afghanistan, if we have to go either way on it.

From there, Steyn bemoaned rules of engagement for NATO forces, calling them "ridiculous." He said we should only have one purpose for being in Afghanistan, which is to quarantine and kill large numbers of Al Qaeda, and that we shouldn't be there to nation-build. Steyn also touched upon other examples of US nation building, arguing that it worked in Iraq, and calling Kosovo "a little nothing war."

Steyn questioned whether Obama understood the purpose for being in Afghanistan, saying that it was now "Obama's war." Steyn added that Bush kept the country safe from attack by keeping on the offensive in the war on terror, and that Obama has moved to a more "legalistic" and "reactive" model. After another commercial break, Steyn continued to complain about NATO rules of engagement. Steyn finished off his two-day reign of unfunny jokes with a caller who argued that you can't impose a government from the top down, and that it needs to come from the bottom up. Steyn agreed and explained that this is how American government came to be. The trouble with UN nation-building is they always want to go from the top down, said Steyn. You can't do "trickle-down" nation building.

Zachary Aronow and Zachary Pleat contributed to this edition of the Limbaugh Wire.

Highlights

Outrageous comments

STEYN: What we have here is something that is not -- obviously I'm not saying, I'm not comparing President Obama to Saddam Hussein -- but I am saying that the cult of personality at grade school level is a phenomenon of nonfunctioning, nondemocratic, non-free societies, and it should have no place here.

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STEYN: The Afghans haven't built a nation in Afghanistan. It's essentially a tribal society in which the village and the tribe are what count and there's a remote national government in Kabul that has absolutely no impact on your life. I wish we could have that system here when I think about it like that.

I'd like to -- I think New Hampshire should be a tribal society with a remote national government thousands of miles away that has no impact on your life. I'd quite like that system. So, on balance, I'd rather Afghans were nation-building in America than Americans nation-building in Afghanistan, if we have to go either way on it.

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    • Author by DELIBERO (September 03, 2009 6:23 pm ET)
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      I live in Canada and my teenage son's important scheduled surgery was inexplicably cancelled. I went directly to the health facility and demanded to see the actual bureaucrat that had made the decision. After some persistence, I succeeded, and was told that the doctor had made the decision to cancel. The doctor later said that she was lying and that the minor cost saving decision was made entirely by the bureaucrat alone. (And that was when funding was supposedly not a problem) When my weakening elderly father in law was awaiting brain surgery to remove a tumour, the doctor said that the hospital (bureaucrat) told him that an OR was not available, but when I checked directly with personnel at OR booking at the hospital myself, they said several OR’s were ready and available. I’m convinced “someone” had simply written his life off the balance sheet. Once I exposed these and other deliberate lies, the surgeries went ahead “to silence an upset family member” and both patients recovered. Trust me, Mark Steyn is absolutely correct when he states that placing your health and your life in the hands of indifferent bean counting government bureaucrats is not the health care panacea you may dream that it is. I could provide many other personal examples that would further balance the idealistic and false notion of comforting government supplied nanny care for all.
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      • Author by LittleFuzzy (September 04, 2009 12:27 am ET)
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        I live in Canada as well. Our health care system is NOT PERFECT, but it is far better than what I hear of in the USA.

        How much did it cost you for the two surgeries?

        Hospitals are not government-run here, as you should be well aware.

        I, for one, do not mind paying taxes to fund this care.
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        • Author by amabo (September 04, 2009 12:52 am ET)
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          As one of my Canadian relatives told me...Canada has the best medical care in the world....as long as you don't use it.
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        • Author by DELIBERO (September 04, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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          To Little Fuzzy and John Q Socialist== The important issue that I addressed in my first post was that the surrendering of your health and your life to the whims of an imperious petty bureaucrat and not your doctor is a giant and probably irreversible leap for free Americans to make. (My narrative is entirely true and my father in law who was being callously discarded by the health system a few years ago (and died recently) was a 1st wave D-day veteran of Juno beach.) Hospitals are government run in Canada and are subject to the Canada Health Act and in my province, the ministry of Health Services whose mission it is to “guide and enhance the province's health services” through their 6 “Health Authorities” that are under the imperious direction of the Health ministry with employees paid primarily by private sector tax revenue and minutely by user fees for ambulance services, private rooms etc. Optometry, cosmetic surgery, extended health, many prescription drugs and dentistry are within a private care model. If you doubt that hospitals are ultimately government run and government dependent then you should speak to the thousands of patients who just had their “elective” surgeries cancelled by the government controlled Fraser Health Authority. One patient actually had his “free gov’t sponsored” knee operation cancelled while he was being prepped on the OR table, (doctor and patient made the evening news) because a bureaucrat was worried that the gov’t tax spigot had been reduced by the Ministry. Or talk to the hundreds of thousands of province wide hospital union employees who were directly terminated and privatized by the health ministry’s “Health and Social Services Delivery Improvement Act.” Many committed American union members who are eagerly promoting more government control might be unpleasantly surprised at what certain governments can and will do when they have the absolute power to do whatever they want including tearing up “legal” union contracts etc. at will. Under the presently unsustainable Canadian health care model, surgeries are still being cancelled, despite the B.C gov’ts promise to increase funding over the next three years by $4.8 billion. By 2011/12, total provincial health spending will be $17.5 billion – an increase of 65 per cent since 2001 but as usual “it will never be enough” for a provincial population of 4.4 million which is appx one half the population of New York city. The future of “free health care” with its accelerating percentage of our total budget (from 33% in 1994 to over 50% today and 70% by 2017 at the current rate), the pending elderly boomer increase and the corresponding decreased proportion of future taxpayers left to pay for all this “free health care” is not encouraging. Anyone that that doesn’t believe that lives are already being rationed by Canadian health care is a misguided dreamer. As for what collateral damage is being caused by the increasing concentration of taxpayer monies into “free health care” at the expense of other ministries, I will let the upcoming “behind the scenes” 2010 Olympic coverage demonstrate some of the miserable impacts of the reduced funding for so many other “free social expenditures” like Vancouver’s Downtown eastside services etc. (Note: The availability of more Canadian tax money to construct our “free” health care system because of the U.S.’s massive expenditures and Canada’s minimalist contribution to fight the crucial cold war, provide efficient U.S. Coast Guard ships to rescue Canadian mariners off our own coasts and so on is quite another story)
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          • Author by DELIBERO (September 04, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
               
            CORRECTION. I INADVERTENTLY WROTE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS INSTEAD OF THOUSANDS OF TERMINATED AND PRIVATIZED UNIONIZED HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES BY GOVERNMENT DECREE. I also didn't mention the significant but unknown number of CANADIANS who travel to the U.S. and pay willingly for their surgeries or who are sent there by Canadian Health Authorities who unable to care for them.
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      • Author by starkcr31 (September 04, 2009 10:56 am ET)
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        This is proof positive of what we're in for. My elderly grandfather lives in the UK and has been denied care because he's too sick (Parkinson's) so my aunt and uncle who have money have to pay for his care out of pocket. Your story is coming from a country with 30 million people. How are we going to do when we try to take care of 300 million?
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    • Author by jediknight65 (September 04, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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      thought the topic was continued freaking out over education. hmmm oh well
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    • Author by Johnqpublic (September 04, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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      I love hearsay - so verifiable, especially from a anonymous internet pseudonym.

      I live in Canada and my mother is a health care professional working in the United States.

      We wouldnt trade our health care for the system in place in the United States if you put a gun to our head. The difference is night and day.

      I find it sad that the once-greatest nation in the world does not seem to recognize that the primary role of government should be the welfare of its citizens. Something like 60% of your total federal budget goes to military spending - at the same time people are left to die because their insurance policies get canceled by the provider when the costs get too high.

      You talk about socialism, but what you have now is a system of corporate fascism. I'll take socialism over that any day, I don't want to go to the McHospital and buy my triple-bypass.
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      • Author by Free Canadian (September 06, 2009 1:08 am ET)
           
        I am a Canadian as well ( Nice to see fellow conservative Canucks monopolising this thread.........I guess Alinsky works both ways ). We do have rationing here and there are several simple ways to look at the situation.

        The TV show ER depicts a publically run hospital in the US and the liberal producers have the characters whining about how badly funded the system is. That hospital is ALL Canadian hospitals. Our health care workers are professional and second-to-none but they are public servants and badly overworked. THIS is what you will get if you go our route.

        Also, we have PLENTY of private care in Canada......But you need insurance. I can book a colonoscopy ( after a required GP referral...and we have a big shortage of GPs, as well ) for 6 to 8 months from now or I can pay $500 and get it Thursday....FROM THE SAME GUY I HAVE TO WAIT 8 MONTHS FOR IN THE PUBLIC SYSTEM. I just have to go to his private clinic.

        Since there is a shortage, many people go to the emergency for small issues and wait anywhere from 4 to 48 hours to be seen.

        Another reason Canada has kept its system is that we continue to have an unfunded liability of $365 billion or so but we use the US to send some of our overflow, to the tune of a billion or so dollars a year.


        Don't get me wrong, Canada is a modern Western democracy with health care that is superior to most of the world but we need to further privatise in order to give more choice to ostensibly free people.

        ... And the tool who says the US spends 60% of its budget on the military has proved once again that liberals tend to ignore facts when making an argument. The States spends proportionately LESS that most countries ( 3% is the last thing I saw ) on their military but since their economy is so massive, that still amounts to more $$ than the next 10 countires combined. How is this possible? Are Americans smarter than anyone else? Are they harder workers? Are they intrinsically more evil and aggressive than other nations ( Come on, North Korea, Iran )?

        No, it is the reason more folks try to go there, voting with their feet. It is because it is the freest place on Earth.

        I am very happy we live so close to America and it cannot but be a defining issue in our existance.
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    • Author by jmarucci (September 04, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
         
      It's amazing to me that in the midst of all the talk on health care our "useless incompetent government" was able to force Pfizer to pay a $2.3 Billion dollar fine for pushing their sales department to entice doctors to use expensive drugs for purposes that they weren't approved to be used in order to maximize their profits. See, that's the free market at work in your health care system.
      Pfizer didn't even fight it they were so quilty, and they surely wouldn't want the negative publicity surrounding a case with the FDA which might warrant additional probing into their business affairs. (Hmm, I wonder why). Gee, I didn't hear anyone say thank god for our government and the regulations that are put in place to protect its citizens.
      The reality in this country is we cannot sustain the ridiculous increases in health care without some fundamental changes to the system. And for the Republicans to just sit on the sidelines and say no to everything proposed and in many cases (see Sen.Grassley) sabotage the negotiations from the back room doesn't help solve the problem. Unfortunately, the politics of fixing the problem doesn't work in the Republicans favor, so the best thing to do for them is not fix it at all. As long as this is the attitude of many on the right bi-partisanship cannot be reached. And again, polictically speaking, bi-partisanship does not work in the Republicans favor since the success of reform will go to President Obama and the Democrats for finally reforming the system.

      Ever wonder why the life expectancy of citizens in Canada is ranked 6th in the world but the US is ranked 36th? Poor health care in Canada huh?
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