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Limbaugh: "There's No Difference" Between Jones, Obama, Wright, And Ayers

September 08, 2009 5:48 pm ET — 31 Comments

By Greg Lewis

Rush came back from his weeklong Hawaiian golf getaway, declaring that he wished Obama and Congress were still on vacation. He then observed that Obama's "indoctrination speech" was starting at the very same moment as his own radio program, which Rush thought was some kind of conspiracy. This was followed up with a new "comedy" skit about Obama giving his "indoctrination speech."

Highlighting unemployment numbers and Congress' approval rating, Rush declared the magic was gone for Obama, and that every time he speaks about health care, his numbers plummet further. Substance has taken over, said Rush, and nobody believes Obama is a centrist anymore. Rush also went over a Pew poll about Obama losing support among white voters -- he quickly came up with a conspiracy that the LA Times was running the story to set up the notion that criticism of Obama was based on race -- that's the reason for the poll, said Rush, and also the reason it was running in that specific outlet.

Then Rush turned to Van Jones, who recently resigned from his post as green jobs adviser for the White House:

LIMBAUGH: Lookit, folks. Van Jones is Jeremiah Wright is Bill Ayers. It was not an accident that he's in the White House. Van Jones is Obama. Mark Lloyd at the FCC is Obama. Jeremiah Wright is Obama. There's no difference. The only difference is that some of them make reckless public statements, but in terms of what he believes Obama's -- he's no different from Van Jones, that's why he was in the White House in the first place.

Rush speculated as to why the media didn't cover Van Jones for months. The reason he came up with is that not only were the media trying to help Obama by not reporting on Van Jones, but more importantly, they ignored him because they "hate" conservatives.

Rush: "Barack Obama is governing against the will of the American people"

Referencing a post at the American Spectator, Rush launched into a rant about Obama promoting chaos:

LIMBAUGH: All this chaos fits right into his plan -- 9.7 percent unemployment is exactly what the doctor ordered. All of this chaos, all of this disarray is exactly -- within our culture, within out economy, is exactly what he wants. He thrives on it.

Rush went on for a few more moments about how there is "nothing decent' happening in the U.S. economy. Then he theorized about Obama's health care plan, saying that no matter what the bill says, it will be "government run" care:

LIMBAUGH: Whatever they end up with, if there is a health care reform bill the Democrats in the House and Senate pass and send it up to sign, it is a government-run health care plan. I don't care what kind of language they use to try to convince you there won't be a public option. Barack Obama is governing against the will of the American people, and the purpose of the speech last night is to cast you as the enemy, is to cast the American people as the enemy while he attempts to cajole you and manipulate you.

Rush suddenly abandons "indoctrination speech" allegation -- now says "Obama just gave a speech that he doesn't believe a word of"

After the break, Rush commented on Obama's just-finished speech to students: Rush declared that Obama didn't believe a word of anything he just said. If he believed anything he said today, said Rush, then Obama wouldn't be trying to push through his agenda:

LIMBAUGH: He just gave a speech that he doesn't believe a word of. If he believed anything he said today, then he would not be trying to accomplish one item in his agenda. His agenda is based on the fact that you can't take care of yourself. His agenda is based on the fact that you are incompetent to make the right decisions. His agenda is that you need guidance and you need leadership and you need somebody making decisions for ya, you need a big government nanny because you're incompetent and incapable. He goes out and tell these students it's all up to you. Your country needs you. We want you to work hard -- not -- notice he used the word "I."

It was only about 20 minutes earlier that Rush was still warning of Obama's "indoctrination speech." This about-face happened so quickly, we got whiplash from it.

Anyway, this was quickly topped off with Rush's idea for a drinking game:

It's the middle of the day so I can't do a drinking game, but if this speech were given at night and I took a drink for every time he said the word "I," I would now be inebriated. "I" this -- I'm doing my best to get you your textbooks, I'm doing my best to get you a good environment, you gotta do the work. He doesn't believe a word of this.

Rush then went through a laundry list of half-baked "reasons" why Obama gave the speech, including helping his poll numbers, and to set up his health care speech tomorrow. After another break, Rush elaborated on this idea, explaining that Obama's speech today was actually not what he originally intended to talk about:

LIMBAUGH: The theme of his speech -- which was not the original intent of the speech, by the way. The original intent of the speech was a Dear Leader kind of thing, like -- right out of the pages of that potbellied tinpot dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-Il. That's what it was gonna be. You gotta think about me all the time. You gotta write a letter to yourself about how you can help me.

We'd really like to take this opportunity to point out that Rush's claim that the "original intent of the speech was a Dear Leader kind of thing" is absolutely baseless.

Rush now baselessly claiming it was the White House who called protestors Nazis

Rush continued to discuss Obama's speech. Rush said that Obama told kids to take personal responsibility, but that is something Obama never does in his own life, according to Rush. Then Rush changed gears back to health care. His point was that Obama is so desperate to get a health care bill that he will actually resort to telling us the details in tomorrow's speech. Then Rush accused the White House of starting the rhetoric about Nazis at health care town hall meetings. Rush said it came from the Oval Office and the President (previously, conservatives had sourced these allegations to Nancy Pelosi. Rush is again just making things up here).

Rush went on to touch on the subjects of czars a bit more, as well as the way the drive by media "hates us" ("us" being Limbaugh and conservative "new" media). Then Rush went on about how all the '60s radicals were now running America's education system and in the Obama administration.

Rush accuses Obama of "Clinton-esque" lies about his childhood in school speech

Next, Rush went back to Obama's back-to-school speech, pointing out what Rush described as a fabrication. Rush singled out how Obama said in his speech that when he was living in Indonesia as a child, his mother couldn't afford to send him to the school where American students went to, so she woke him up at 4:30 every morning to give him extra tutoring. Rush asked why his mother didn't have the money to send Obama to the better school, describing Obama's supposedly rich family members. And why did it have to be at 4:30 a.m. if his mother didn't have a job? Rush pretty much accused Obama of making up the story, calling it Clinton-esque.

After another commercial timeout, Rush returned to play several sound bites from Obama's back-to-school speech. Rush said that some of it was "great stuff," but added that "it's not what [Obama] believes." After playing a clip in which Obama said there was no excuse for having a bad attitude in school, Rush declared:

LIMBAUGH: Now, this is laughable. I'm sorry if this sounds controversial, folks, but no excuses? He was elected by a bunch of whiners who wanted him to take care of them. That's who voted for the guy -- well, and some guilty white people who thought that maybe they could get rid of the nation's racial past for voting for the guy, but he was elected by a bunch of whiners who thought he was gonna fix everything.

Rush closed out the hour with a caller who said it was undemocratic for Obama to bypass local school boards, bringing his speech directly to schools and principals. Rush didn't really find this theory very interesting, saying there's nothing new about the administration acting antidemocratic. Rush said it's the content of the speech that remains the focal point, and claimed that while Obama was talking about personal responsibility, his agenda is "based on the idea that you don't have any."

Rush calls Obama a "busybody authoritarian"

The second hour of Limbaugh began with our beloved host said he was struck by how insincere Obama's speech was because it did not go along with his own agenda. Rush went on to read an excerpt from Obama's memoir, Dreams from My Father, in which Obama wrote about what his "mentor" Frank Marshall Davis had to say about Obama going to college. Rush said if Obama were sincere, he would have delivered a similar message to students today.

Anyway, Rush went on to describe Obama as a "busybody authoritarian who can't miss an opportunity to tell everybody what to do and how to do it better." Rush continued:

LIMBAUGH: The fact that he wants to insert himself in our businesses, our borrowing decisions, education, doctor visits, automobile production, hand-washing -- I mean, told kids to wash their hands. He wants to get himself involved in every aspect of our lives while telling these kids that personal responsibility's up to them.

This is not a country he wants to lead. This is a country he wants to change. This is a country that he wants to have an authoritarian collectivist government with a very odd group of friends and influences, from Bill Ayers to Van Jones, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Davis, and parents are supposed to apparently get comfortable with this. But it's just -- it's an amazing thing.

Rush then continued to demonstrate his complete lack of understanding of health care reform. He read a CBS News blog post about "robot" Obama campaign volunteers signing a petition supporting the public option. Rush said that whatever bill Obama ends up signing, it would be government run health care. Rush's reasoning was that you cannot have a health care reform bill by the government without having the government involved.

He continued to mock the idea of co-ops, health insurance exchanges, and a public option "trigger." Then Rush again "debunked" the idea that there were 47 million Americans lacking health insurance. Rush explained that many of them were "Martians" and also included people who didn't want insurance. Rush claimed that we could insure all of the people who couldn't get insurance and wanted it for about $30 billion a year. He also added that people can get health care if they're insured or not -- "it's called the emergency room."

Rush turns around Gibbs' Animal House analogy: "Barack Obama is Dean Wormer!"

After the break, Rush brought up Robert Gibbs' response to people protesting Obama's back-to-school speech, in which Gibbs said: "It's a sad state of affairs that many in this country politically would rather start an Animal House food fight rather than inspire kids to stay in school."

Rush decided to run with this analogy to the food fight in the classic comedy Animal House, turning it around on Gibbs:

LIMBAUGH: Why did audiences like the food fight so much? I'll tell you why -- because elitist control-freak arrogant frat boys who were secretly working with the jackass dean whose name was Wormer to get food thrown on their preppy clothes and their snotty, stuck-up faces. That's why people liked it -- because the elitists got it handed to 'em.

Rush explained his analogy, likening Obama to Dean Wormer and the elitist frat boys to people like Van Jones and Bill Ayers:

LIMBAUGH: Gibbs made the perfect analogy here with the Animal House movie, and he probably didn't even realize it. Barack Obama is Dean Wormer, and his administration is all of these elitist frat boy kids who think they're better than everybody else, lording it over everybody. He's working with an elitist fraternity with members in it like Van Jones and Bill Ayers and the state-controlled media, and their goal is to run the campus, the country for their own benefit, and the rest of us are just a bunch of Blutarski snobs not smart enough or cool enough to be in their fraternity.

Rush then noted the "circle of irony" in John Belushi's character in the movie becoming a US Senator, "[t]he guy who started the food fight at all the elitists." Rush called Gibbs a "flat-shoed, birdbrained idiot" and capped off his comparison of the Obama administration to the "cool" frat in Animal House:

We are -- we're the frat kids that are not cool. Your boss is Wormer, you're one of the assistants, and the rest of the administration's a bunch of too-cool-for-the-room frat-boy exclusive elitists, arrogant, impudent snobs looking down on us, and you want to ram your little agenda down our schoolkids' throats, and rather than bending over and saying, "Thank you, can I have another?" we said, "Keep your words out of our schools."

We have another piece to add to Rush's "circle of irony." One of the elitist frat boys in the movie, who Rush described as a natural fit in the Obama administration, according to the film's lore, went on to be an aide in the Nixon White House.

Rush declares Obama's school speech "100 percent conservative in its message"

Before going to another break, Rush said of Obama's speech that it was "100 percent conservative in its message. ... Because this is a conservative country, and the only way Obama can get his leftist agenda is to make people think he is not who he is."

Returning from a commercial break, Rush took a caller who asked why Obama would choose to be advised by a communist like Van Jones. Rush repeated his earlier point, that Jones is Obama, and that people don't want to believe these things about their president, and ranted for a while about Obama's "czars." Rush then accused liberals of governing against the will of the people.

Rush explained again how Obama is creating chaos by design, and conspired about Obama's speech tomorrow in front of a joint session of Congress. Rush explained that the speech was about Obama saving face, and called it a display of great weakness. Rush went on to explain the only "real" crisis facing this country:

LIMBAUGH: He has a personal and a political crisis on his hands of his own making. And you know, the only real crisis -- the only real crisis facing this country at this time is economic in nature. Specifically, the private sector has been half destroyed by the president's own hand. The bills that he has asked for and signed have damaged the private sector's ability to create new jobs.

Rush said that Obama's health care plan would add to the economic malaise, and would explode the deficit and joblessness. Obama, said Rush, would be asking Congress to make the economy even worse. Rush also said "death panels" don't have to be in the language of the bill to be in the bill. Just like the War on Poverty legislation didn't say it would wipe out the black family, that is what happened. Rush said the same would happen with death panels.

After another break, Rush read an AP report on Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) calling for a fine on families that don't have health insurance after reform goes into effect. Rush criticized Republicans for possibly going along with reform:

LIMBAUGH: Baucus is hoping his plan can win bipartisan support. If it -- if it wins bipartisan support, if there are Republicans that go along with this -- I mean, this is -- the Democrats are putting a gun to their heads. I know -- they just need Olympia Snowe, I know, they just need Olympia Snowe, and she's stupid enough -- ah ah ah -- she is silly enough.

Rush finished off the hour with another caller, who was critical about the conservative overreaction to Obama's school speech. Rush disagreed with the caller and reiterated all the same points about Obama's speech that he had been making for the past two hours.

Rush declares victory in Ted Kennedy funeral predictions

Hour 3 began with Rush touting the latest Washington Times conspiracy about the National Endowment for the Arts recruiting artists to create propaganda in support of the Obama administration's policy. Rush capped off his discussion with an audio clip of George Will discussing this on This Week.

After briefly discussing an Obama proposal to expand retirement savings options, Rush went on to gloat over predictions he made about the Ted Kennedy funeral. He had predicted a couple weeks ago that newscasters like Andrea Mitchell would say the rainy weather at the funeral would be symbolic of the heavens crying for Kennedy. Rush claimed victory with audio bites from Mitchell and Stephanie Miller making remarks of the sort that he predicted.

Then Rush went on to play sound bites from Obama's speech yesterday at the AFL-CIO Labor Day picnic. Rush described Obama as looking "mad and angry" while giving the speech. He also described the audience at the speech as "idiots," half of whom were without jobs, and Rush said that Obama's claims about what wasn't in health care reform (pulling the plug on grandma, insurance for illegal immigrants) were "patently untrue."

After the break, Rush took a caller who was concerned over doctor shortages if health care reform passed and more people had health insurance. Rush said that was a concern, as was death panels, and described how the town hall protestors were informed about these issues. Rush said the whole health care mess exists because government is involved in forcing solutions that are not market based.

The next caller said the strategy behind Obama's back-to-school speech was "ingenious" because it made conservatives who worried about it seem like a bunch of kooks after it turned out to be reasonable. Rush again baselessly claimed that what Obama said today wasn't his original intent, and that there was a genuine reason for the outcry.

After another break, Rush played a few clips from a Meet the Press roundtable discussion with Thomas Friedman and Tom Brokaw, in which they went over Van Jones' resignation and the role of the Internet. Rush accused Friedman of blaming the Internet, and noted the media distorting (note the New York Times' correction) Mark Steyn's comments when he guest-hosted for Rush last week. Rush also accused the media of failing to report on Jones until he resigned.

Another caller on the program talked to Rush about union members like himself defecting from their support of Obama. Rush thought that everybody out there ought to be realizing that they made a mistake last November, and that they should be there standing up, outraged and scared to death for the future of their country. Rush concluded that the kind of energy that was present at Obama's AFL CIO speech doesn't exist anywhere else in the country for Obama.

One more break, and Rush was back to saying how Obama's school speech was 100 percent conservatism. He posited that if George W. Bush had made the speech and mentioned "God" like Obama did, the left would be outraged "within five minutes" about it. The next caller on the program made some remarks about what Obama has said about personal responsibility, and the final caller was in the steelworkers union, and also didn't support Obama, and said union members were concerned about the stimulus.

Zachary Aronow and Zachary Pleat contributed to this edition of the Limbaugh Wire.

Highlights

Outrageous comments

LIMBAUGH: Lookit, folks. Van Jones is Jeremiah Wright is Bill Ayers. It was not an accident that he's in the White House. Van Jones is Obama. Mark Lloyd at the FCC is Obama. Jeremiah Wright is Obama. There's no difference. The only difference is that some of them make reckless public statements, but in terms of what he believes Obama's -- he's no different from Van Jones, that's why he was in the White House in the first place.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Now there's also -- I read a piece, did massive show prep late yesterday afternoon and last night. And I don't even remember who wrote this piece -- it might have been Quin Hillyer at American Spectator. He said, look, it was a great August, but don't get giddy here. Don't get all excited, this is nowhere by any means over. And he made a point -- I love seeing it, because it's a point that I have been drilling home ever since Obama took office.

All this chaos fits right into his plan -- 9.7 percent unemployment is exactly what the doctor ordered. All of this chaos, all of this disarray is exactly -- within our culture, within out economy, is exactly what he wants. He thrives on it.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Whatever they end up with, if there is a health care reform bill the Democrats in the House and Senate pass and send it up to sign, it is a government-run health care plan. I don't care what kind of language they use to try to convince you there won't be a public option. Barack Obama is governing against the will of the American people, and the purpose of the speech last night is to cast you as the enemy, is to cast the American people as the enemy while he attempts to cajole you and manipulate you.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: He just gave a speech that he doesn't believe a word of. If he believed anything he said today, then he would not be trying to accomplish one item in his agenda. His agenda is based on the fact that you can't take care of yourself. His agenda is based on the fact that you are incompetent to make the right decisions. His agenda is that you need guidance and you need leadership and you need somebody making decisions for ya, you need a big government nanny because you're incompetent and incapable. He goes out and tell these students it's all up to you. Your country needs you. We want you to work hard -- not -- notice he used the word "I."

It's the middle of the day so I can't do a drinking game, but if this speech were given at night and I took a drink for every time he said the word "I," I would now be inebriated. "I" this -- I'm doing my best to get you your textbooks, I'm doing my best to get you a good environment, you gotta do the work. He doesn't believe a word of this.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: The theme of his speech -- which was not the original intent of the speech, by the way. The original intent of the speech was a Dear Leader kind of thing, like -- right out of the pages of that potbellied tinpot dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-Il. That's what it was gonna be. You gotta think about me all the time. You gotta write a letter to yourself about how you can help me.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Now, this is laughable. I'm sorry if this sounds controversial, folks, but no excuses? He was elected by a bunch of whiners who wanted him to take care of them. That's who voted for the guy -- well, and some guilty white people who thought that maybe they could get rid of the nation's racial past for voting for the guy, but he was elected by a bunch of whiners who thought he was gonna fix everything.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: He's a busybody authoritarian who can't miss an opportunity to tell everybody what to do and how to do it better. The fact that he wants to insert himself in our businesses, our borrowing decisions, education, doctor visits, automobile production, hand-washing -- I mean, told kids to wash their hands. He wants to get himself involved in every aspect of our lives while telling these kids that personal responsibility's up to them.

This is not a country he wants to lead. This is a country he wants to change. This is a country that he wants to have an authoritarian collectivist government with a very odd group of friends and influences, from Bill Ayers to Van Jones, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Davis, and parents are supposed to apparently get comfortable with this. But it's just -- it's an amazing thing.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Obama had to deliver a speech that was entirely conservative in its message -- 100 percent conservative in its message. Why? Because this is a conservative country, and the only way Obama can get his leftist agenda is to make people think he is not who he is.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: He has a personal and a political crisis on his hands of his own making. And you know, the only real crisis -- the only real crisis facing this country at this time is economic in nature. Specifically, the private sector has been half destroyed by the president's own hand. The bills that he has asked for and signed have damaged the private sector's ability to create new jobs.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Baucus is hoping his plan can win bipartisan support. If it -- if it wins bipartisan support, if there are Republicans that go along with this -- I mean, this is -- the Democrats are putting a gun to their heads. I know -- they just need Olympia Snowe, I know, they just need Olympia Snowe, and she's stupid enough -- ah ah ah -- she is silly enough.

From the Department of Dumb Analogies

LIMBAUGH: But do you remember the food fight in Animal House? Somebody needs to tell Gibbs that Americans loved the Animal House food fight. It's one of the favorite parts of the movie. You seen it, Dawn? All right, let's remember what happened here. Why did audiences like the food fight so much? I'll tell you why -- because elitist control-freak arrogant frat boys who were secretly working with the jackass dean whose name was Wormer to get food thrown on their preppy clothes and their snotty, stuck-up faces. That's why people liked it -- because the elitists got it handed to 'em.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Gibbs made the perfect analogy here with the Animal House movie, and he probably didn't even realize it. Barack Obama is Dean Wormer, and his administration is all of these elitist frat boy kids who think they're better than everybody else, lording it over everybody. He's working with an elitist fraternity with members in it like Van Jones and Bill Ayers and the state-controlled media, and their goal is to run the campus, the country for their own benefit, and the rest of us are just a bunch of Blutarski snobs not smart enough or cool enough to be in their fraternity.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: And do you remember the circle of irony in that movie Animal House? At the end of the movie, John Blutarski, who was played by -- ah, I'm having a -- John Belushi. John Belushi. The character John Blutarski went on to become a United States senator. Do you remember the end of the movie? The guy who started the food fight at all the elitists -- Gibbs, you're an idiot! You're a flat-shoed, birdbrained idiot. You have just used the perfect example.

We are -- we're the frat kids that are not cool. Your boss is Wormer, you're one of the assistants, and the rest of the administration's a bunch of too-cool-for-the-room frat-boy exclusive elitists, arrogant, impudent snobs looking down on us, and you want to ram your little agenda down our schoolkids' throats, and rather than bending over and saying, "Thank you, can I have another?" we said, "Keep your words out of our schools."

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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (September 08, 2009 9:33 pm ET)
      1  
      Fellow Matterers.

      Sepsis Gadfly, (Rush Limbaugh), is right: he will never be happy. Using his parameters, are Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, the KKK, etc., his, "blood," Bretheren? It is nice to see the swarm of fools vying for the, Grand Marshall of Hate, title.

      Free speech is a pendulum that casts a shadow. Is the shadow cold with hate, or warm in conscious? It can drown the light, or protect from the heat. It can not deny its path, nor the mark of its wake.

      It be it,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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    • Author by pilotx (September 08, 2009 11:10 pm ET)
      2  
      Sure, to a bigot like Limbaugh they are the same.
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      • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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        I figured the liberals would make this about race, as they always do. Are you aware the Bill Ayers is white? Therefore, saying they are "the same" can hardly be construed as being racist.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (September 08, 2009 11:47 pm ET)
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      Well, we know that Limbaugh wasn't the guy from "Animal House" who went to Vietnam. He had a boil on his butt and didn't go.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 2:33 am ET)
        1  
        I'm sure this drug- addled high school dropout doesn't see any difference between geometry and algebra either. And that's his primary appeal, excusing his followers from thinking.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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          I guess the fact that he has the intelligence and talent to make millions without an education is irrelevant?
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
               
            Irrelevant to what? His appeal to non-thinkers? Absolutely not, I think his intelligence and talent are perfectly suited to relating to ignorant morons on their level.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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              Wow, your staggering intellect is certainly showing. You really put me in my place. You have no argument so you result to insults.
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              • Author by wzwriter (September 09, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
                   
                Looks like you're too ignorant to comprehend what Col. Sanders wrote.
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                • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
                     
                  I like that stark never really manages to write complete sentences that make it clear exactly what he's saying, he responds to lengthy threads with no indication of who or what he's responding to, he ignores questions attempting to clarify what the hell he's talking about, then has nothing but lame sarcastic insults that make no more sense than his original comments.

                  I don't know why I bother.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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                    I love how you talk about others making "lame sarcastic insults" when that's all you do (only to people that disagree with you, of course).
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                    • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 10, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
                         
                      No, you're just not sharp enough to understand that I point out very specific and real problems you have. If that's insulting to you, don't blame other people.Try to fix your problems.

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                      • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
                           
                        I wasn't referring to that particular post. I was making a general observation because you rarely attempt to make an actual counter-point, you merely resort to name calling. You're not sharp enough to keep up, apparently.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 9:58 am ET)
                     
                  Are you saying what he said wasn't insulting?
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
                   
                I was attempting to answer your question, but your usual problems with expressing yourself make that a bit difficult.

                Why don't you start by completing this sentence;

                I guess the fact that [Rush] has the intelligence and talent to make millions without an education is irrelevant?

                Indoctrinating lesson plan study tasks:

                1. Finish the thought- irrelevant to what?

                2. How is Rush's ability to make money relevant to his appeal to idiots.

                3. Would this statement work better as is, a statement ending with a question mark, or would it be better to put it in question form (after spiffing it up to Jr. High level English, of course)?

                4. Do you think mentioning your Masters degree in the vicinity of your other comments here would be a good idea?

                Work in small groups if necessary.

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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 10:07 am ET)
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                  Irrelevant to what? You dismiss Rush Limbaugh as some sort of kook or call him "stupid" like you do everyone else who doesn't agree with you but he has the intelligence and talent to be more successful than you could be in your wildest dreams even without an education.

                  "How is Rush's ability to make money relevant to his appeal to idiots."

                  Again, you are giving an uninformed and generalized opinion about the people that listen to his show. Anyone who disagrees with you have to be "idiots". Is that right?

                  "Do you think mentioning your Masters degree in the vicinity of your other comments here would be a good idea?"

                  When someone accuses me of being uneducated, I merely point out that I'm not. My occasional typographical errors and the fact that I don't agree with your ideology hardly means I'm uneducated. If you don't have an education, there's no need to take out on me. Your little grade-school level shots that attempt to undermine my intelligence only shows your lack of it.


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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 10, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
                       
                    I'm going to give you a very generous D- here stark.You didn't successfully address any of the four study questions, but you did at least seem to be stumbling around the general subject of a couple of them.

                    Now a little reality check and some tough love;The jokes others make about your intelligence are not about typos, nor are they about differences of opinion.

                    They're about your inability to complete a coherent thought, your failure at answering simple questions, and that your comments in general seem to be written by a below average Jr. high school kid.That is why others have a laugh when you continue to mention your Masters, as if it erases the stoopid of your comments.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
                         
                      Again, I don't continue to mention my degree, you do. Since you have some trouble differentiating between my posts and yours, you may want to go back and read them. You mention it in every single response you make to me and it's getting pretty old and making you look pathetic. You didn't respond to anything I said, you just attempted to insult me again (unsuccessfully).
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                      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 10, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
                           
                        You didn't respond to anything I said

                        You're either lying, or your reading comprehension is even worse than it appears.

                        I try to respond to anything that needs a response, at least anything that I can make sense of. You do have sort of an incoherent, rambling style, which makes that difficult at times.

                        Let me know if there's anything specific that you'd like me to respond to, and maybe run it by another person first to make sure it's clear. I'll do my best to respond.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (September 09, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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      "There's no difference between Rush Limbaugh and your everyday street junkie. They are both junkies."...the Prince
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      • Author by wzwriter (September 09, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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        There's no difference between Rush Limbaugh and cow manure. Except manure can be used to fertilize crops, and Limbaugh serves no useful purpose whatsoever.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 2:09 pm ET)
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          Yeah, I guess those 20 million listeners he has every week think he serves no purpose.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
               
            Those 20 million (ha ha) don't do much thinking, but the fact that they may believe he serves a useful purpose doesn't make it true. Well, aside from the purpose of making Rush wealthy off of their gullibility.

            Why do you respond to every criticism of Rush with a remark about his income? Do you think that making money is more important than honesty or integrity?
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            • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
                 
              No, but pointing out how wildly successful he is shows how many people believe what he's saying is true. The fact that you don't doesn't really change that. Just because you don't believe he is honest, it doesn't make it true. I don't believe everything he says, but a lot of what he says is true. To dismiss EVERYTHING he says as BS is ludicrous just because he disagrees with you.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 09, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
                   
                No, but pointing out how wildly successful he is shows how many people believe what he's saying is true.

                Some people listen to him for laughs, including me.But you're right, the fact that he has a lot of believers does prove that he has a lot of believers. Did they teach you about tautology in the process of selling you that Master's Degree?


                The fact that you don't doesn't really change that. Just because you don't believe he is honest, it doesn't make it true.

                It's not that I don't believe he's not honest, I know he's dishonest. I sometimes listen to his show, and there are countless examples of his dishonesty here and at other websites.This isn't subjective, it's not a matter of opinion. The guy lies, and he lies a lot. The fact that you aren't bright enough to know that doesn't make it untrue.

                I don't believe everything he says, but a lot of what he says is true.

                Nobody could talk for several hours a day saying only things that are untrue. That's ridiculous. Propagandists start with some facts or actual events, then twist and mislead in order to promote their agenda.

                To dismiss EVERYTHING he says as BS is ludicrous just because he disagrees with you.

                While you're looking up "tautology", throw in "strawman". I've never dismissed everything Rush says ( for example, when he says what time it is, or gives the phone number for one of his sponsors) and I don't dismiss things he says just because he disagrees with me. I dismiss things he says when they're wrong or dishonest.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 10:15 am ET)
                     
                  "Some people listen to him for laughs, including me.But you're right, the fact that he has a lot of believers does prove that he has a lot of believers. Did they teach you about tautology in the process of selling you that Master's Degree?"

                  If that's why you listen to him, you have too much time on your hands. I doubt you work, so I guess you have plenty of time. Your cracks about my education only prove that you don't have a degree along with not having a job. That gives you no room to hurl insults. Your ability to spew liberal talking points hardly gives you the right to insult someone's intelligence.

                  "Propagandists start with some facts or actual events, then twist and mislead in order to promote their agenda."

                  Perhaps, but it's certainly no different than what liberals do, including yourself, clearly.



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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (September 10, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
                       
                    If that's why you listen to him, you have too much time on your hands.

                    The only time I hear Rush's show is when I'm driving during the late morning, generally work-related, when I want a good laugh instead of music. How does enjoying a good laugh relate to having too much time on my hands?

                    I doubt you work, so I guess you have plenty of time.

                    I've been unemployed for about two months out of the past 30 years, but I try to use my time effectively. Being a liberal, I'm able to drive and listen to the radio at the same time.

                    Your cracks about my education only prove that you don't have a degree along with not having a job.

                    PLease explain how my cracks prove anything about my education (BTW, I don't have a degree,I've been working full time since I was about 16, but I find it amusing that you continue to mention your Masters degree while posting at the level of a 10 year old).

                    That gives you no room to hurl insults.

                    What gives me no room? Your failed guesses about me? Again, try to put a subject in your sentences.And I have plenty of room to hurl insults, ever hear of The Constitution?

                    Your ability to spew liberal talking points hardly gives you the right to insult someone's intelligence.

                    PLease point out these "liberal talking points".What I posted was my opinions, along with facts and logic. These may look alien to you, but they're not "liberal talking points", they're reality.

                    I have every right to insult your intelligence, or lack of it, as long as you're going to put it on display in a public forum.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (September 10, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
                         
                      "PLease explain how my cracks prove anything about my education (BTW, I don't have a degree,I've been working full time since I was about 16, but I find it amusing that you continue to mention your Masters degree while posting at the level of a 10 year old)."

                      I guessed (correctly I might add) that you had a lack of education do to your continuous cracks about mine. I don't "continue" to mention my education. I believe I mentioned it one time because someone accused me of not having an education. It's you who keeps mentioning it. You can attempt to insult my intelligence all you want but it doesn't mean anything. It makes you look desperate, which you clearly are. When you aren't spewing your liberal nonsense, you simply try to insult people that disagree with you, and not doing a very good job I might add.
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          • Author by wzwriter (September 09, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
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            Like everything else he says, that 20-million listener statistic Rush uses all the time is also a lie:

            Your text to link here...
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      • Author by starkcr31 (September 09, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
           
        Wow, what a witty comment. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
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