Limbaugh, Beck help rally GOP lawmakers to call for investigation of ACORN
In a recent Politico article, Rush Limbaugh was quoted as saying that he doesn't "rally people" to take action because when he tried to do so early in his radio career, "the reaction to it from the media was that the response was not genuine ... because people only did what they did because 'Limbaugh told them to.' " However, following the release of controversial ACORN videos that were heavily promoted by Fox News' Glenn Beck, Limbaugh and Beck have helped "rally" numerous Republican lawmakers to call for investigations of ACORN.
Limbaugh: The danger is that conservatives will be seen as doing something because "Limbaugh told them to."
From a September 17 Politico article:
Limbaugh's role in promoting the [9-12] protest? He said it's not his thing.
"I don't rally people and haven't since the first year of my radio show," he wrote to POLITICO. "At that time, all local talk hosts were attempting to prove their worth by getting people to cut up gasoline credit cards, call Washington, etc. I thought it was cheap and disingenuous. The few times I did, early on, suggest people call Washington, the reaction to it from the media was that the response was not genuine (I shut down the House switchboard) because people only did what they did because 'Limbaugh told them to.'"
Limbaugh hasn't abandoned the call to action entirely; last year, he launched "Operation Chaos," urging his listeners to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary Clinton in Democratic presidential primaries to prolong the nominating process and weaken Obama.
But now he suggests that conservatives don't need any egging on -- and he seemed to downplay Beck's role in goosing the turnout for last weekend's march.
"The rally Saturday was special and important precisely because there was not a single, charismatic leader behind it," he said. "I never mentioned it, on purpose. People are rising up from genuine passion and concern, they are NOT being whipped into a frenzy. This is REAL and not inspired by anyone. This outpouring has been effervescing for years and Obama has brought it all to the boiling point. PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO BE TOLD. They are living it."
Limbaugh and Beck call for ACORN investigations
Beck: We need "full independent rigorous investigation" of ACORN that "goes all the way to the top." During the September 15 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck, Beck said (from the Nexis database):
While the government is going to make speeches and throw you a bone of cutting off funding -- you know, we're going to cut off funding. Really? Until the Republicans and the Democrats rise together and demand a full independent rigorous investigation that doesn't concentrate just on the local level and these few dirtbags, but goes all the way to the top, to the power brokers at the highest levels of ACORN, and in our own halls of Congress, and this administration, it's all going to be a sham. You won't be able to trust anything in Washington.
Limbaugh: "What's really called for here, folks, is a genuine wide-scale investigation of ACORN activities." In his September 16 "Morning Update" (subscription required), Limbaugh stated:
What's really called for here, folks, is a genuine wide-scale investigation of ACORN activities. Will it happen? No. The Community Activist-in-Chief and his Democrat Party cannot afford to have the inner workings of their surrogates fully exposed. Obama is ACORN ... and verse-visa.
Numerous GOP lawmakers have also called for ACORN investigations
Lawmakers that have recently called for investigations of ACORN include:
Reps. John Boehner (D-OH), Eric Cantor (R-VA), and David Camp (R-MI)
Rep. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
They can go on the road and bill themselves as bobby jindal and the clueless crackers.
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Most of them seemed to be completely unaware of Blackwater or DynCorp, and responded by indignantly asking why I was defending the diabolical criminals of ACORN.
I used the phrase "Be careful what you wish for" more than once.Haven't we seen this type of behavior before? Right wingers should pay a little more attention to real history, and try to learn something from it.
And since the charges against Blackwater and Halliburton are far more serious than anything lobbed at ACORN, I assume you are far more eager to get to the bottom of those, right?
Show me some proof that other ACORN offices were trying to help these dimwits commit crimes.
Uh, they were only talking about trying to help those people commit imaginary crimes.
Now with Blackwater, there are affidavits saying that executives imported real, live, actual, tangible, underage sex slaves so the contractors could get bj's for a buck.
Got any outrage over that?
For the record, you're free to talk all you want about killing your wife. The crime occurs when you HIRE or ATTEMPT to hire someone to kill your wife.
Hopefully you can see the difference and you'll get off the ACORN-is-evil bandwagon because it's nothing but false outrage.
Any outrage about the ACTUAL importing of underage sex slaves by Blackwater execs for their contractors in Iraq?
I do get it. It's a non-story concocted by a couple of college kids who like to play dress up and illegally tape people talking about imaginary prostitution rings and underage sex slaves.
And...if it's not about a crim being committed in the legal sense, then what, if any, crime was committed?
I completely agree with that. However, I do not want that to determine my opinion of an entire organization. I would hope that (even with groups such as Halliburton) that there must be some true evidence of this group actually being willfully corrupt before we shut down an entire company. The fact that this company does not even really exist to turn a profit, yet we have become so determined to destroy it for the sake of politics and partisanship is what I find truly disheartening.
Does anyone remember how difficult it was to get any kind of government oversight for the companies that were essentially running a war for us overseas? Yet, these somewhat disturbing, but mostly funny performances by an unbelievable pimp and the ridiculous scenarios he SEEMS to be offering up to these employees at ACORN in a mangled by editing video demand that we have Congressional hearings about this? Really? I am still not sure what crime any of these ACORN employees are supposed to be charged with. Can anyone tell me that?
Were you just trying to post a definition of "thought crime"?
Starky is worried that I didn't include the word "alleged", and would rather focus on some child prostitution that is not only not alleged, it absolutely never existed.
It's scary how easily some can be led by the nose.You would think that anyone who is reduced to answering convincing allegations of serious crimes with questionable "shenanigans" should be able to see that they may be getting played for a fool.
Betcha can't.
Paging Mr. Orwell. Thought crime in progress. Nutjobs are outraged. Post haste!!!!
But I guess it shouldn't surprise me about the level of false outrage you have over a conversation that was illegally recorded about a fictitious prostitution ring with fictitious underage sex slaves.
Not quite. Attempting to aid and abet an imaginary thought crime. In other words, thinking about helping somebody who is thinking about committing a crime, with the added detail that the "aider/abetter" may have been in no way convinced that the thought criminal had any intention of committing a crime.
It's really another level removed from thought crime.
It was those people on your side who were pretending to set up a child prostitution ring. It wasn't ACORN. It was Giles and O'Keefe who did whatever they wanted to and then we found out later that they were pretending.
We do not know that. The entire unedited tape has not been released and I doubt it ever will be.
But it's nice to hear that you apparently have a problem with people pretending to be involved in a child prostitution ring. We do too.
No, you don't. Maybe you ought to alert the authorities to one Henny Youngman, and his attempts to sell his wife into slavery.
ACORN are not the police, but they should be expected, as any citizens should, to report any credible suspicions of serious criminal activity taking place.
They are not required to report ridiculous masquerades or practical jokes.
Seriously, can you say with a straight face that you would buy this skinny white nerd as an inner city pimp?
Even you can't be swallowing that.
You understand that you saying things doesn't make them true?
Do you notice the ACORN employees are laughing quite a bit?
And it's still a fact that you can't point to a single instance in those highly-edited videos where there is an ACORN worker making any direct reference to any prostitution rings, and certainly not any child prostitution rings.
The only instances of those being mentioned comes from an off-camera voice. If prostitution rings were the topic of discussion, don't you think that one of the seven ACORN workers in three locations would have made some direct reference to it? I'm prepared to be wrong, but I'm very suspicious when they won't let anyone examine the unedited videos and will only speak with a small number of carefully selected "news" outlets.
These GOP lawmakers are pathetic, they should have thrown Limbaugh under the bus long ago, especially after his race war wish was revealed last week with the school bus incident.
The GOP deserves to be relegated to a fringe party of nuts if they don't wise up and denounce clowns like Beck and Limbaugh, fast.
I'd like to see a full investigation of groups like FoKKKus On The Family, the Family Research Council, Operation Rescue, Concerned Women of America, the "Christian" Broadcasting Network, Liberty University, Landmark Legal Foundation (Mark Levin's bogus outfit), the Freedom Alliance (Ollie North's charity scam) and the Paul Revere Society (Michael weiner's bogus outfit).
Here's a list of over 50 conservative newspapers from a conservative website. It completely omits any newspapers from some very liberal states such as Alaska, Kansas, Kentucky, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee and Wyoming. Does anyone seriously believe that all of the newspapers in all of those states are liberal? Anyone with a brain, that is?
Of course, it always pays to keep in mind that most conservatives will automatically label any media source that's balanced and even-handed as liberal on instinct.
The fact is that there are many conservative newspapers, some of very high circulation and influence. The majority of newspapers try very hard to be neutral in their news coverage. The claim that "(m)ost newspapers are liberal" is false on its face, unsupportable and reflects either ignorance or dishonesty.
D'OH!!!
I was almost insulted by the typo. Boehner is most certainly NOT a Democrat.
I am actually ashamed to admit he's from my state, Ohio.
And someone thumbs down this post too? Looks like there is a resident thumb downer 'he or she as the case may be'.
Really...? What about Operation Chaos? Or was the first year of your radio show 2009?
Somehow they can't seem to learn that the moment the banana republicans get control of congress, they're going to hire a special prosecutor if Obama's socks don't match.
Furthermore, Bush didn't have to go after Clinton because the repukes had already spent every last bit of ammunition on him when he was president. Bush did, however, turn the justice department into a cheap partisan whorehouse.
P.S., not sure how you define "ACTUAL" crime, but warrantless wiretapping, torture and outing covert agents, among other things, would seem to qualify.
Strike 143.
Yes he did. From wiki:
"A subsequent report by the Justice Department Inspector General in October 2008 found that the process used to fire the first seven attorneys and two others dismissed around the same time was 'arbitrary,' 'fundamentally flawed,' and 'raised doubts about the integrity of Department prosecution decisions.'"
"On September 29, 2008 the Justice Department's Inspector General (IG) released a report on the matter that found most of the firings were politically motivated and improper. The next day Attorney General Michael Mukasey appointed a special prosecutor, Nora Dannehy, to decide whether criminal charges should be brought against Gonzales and other officials involved in the firings.[45] The IG's report contained 'substantial evidence' that party politics drove a number of the firings, and IG Glenn Fine said in a statement that Gonzales had 'abdicated his responsibility to safeguard the integrity and independence of the department.'"
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Stark seems to be able to see that your Aniston question was irrelevant, but sees the analogy as a "joke", because he knows that lawyers never ask questions that aren't pertinent to the legal issues.
And if, after being told that you're wrong, you don't try to look it up first before coming back and again trying to claim you are right, that's blind partisanship!
And then, if it's explained to you in detail, you still don't get it, and you feel obliged to throw out a baseless insult, then you've pinned the blind troll badge on yourself.
And then when you get banned, or tired of being beaten up over this screen name, you'll come back and again pretend that you don't understand why Clinton wasn't guilty of perjury!
Been there, done that. Countless times.
Do you not remember anything that happened more than 5 minutes ago?
Is it really that hard to conceive of a situation where you might tell a lie that's irrelevent to the proceedings?
Somebody actually tried to explain to me that Clinton committed perjury in the course of his trial on charges of perjury.
It is impossible. Clinton was never tried for perjury, so (follow closely now) he could not have possibly committed perjury during his trial for perjury.
It's as impossible as trying to get you to follow a conversation.
I guess they're doing thought crime now, so future crime isn't that surprising.
Yes, which is almost as bad as starting an illegal war and engaging in torture. I can't even believe right wingers are still bringing up the Clinton oral sex after Bush.
Stark, are you really dumb enough to not realize that there was a special prosecutor that did NOTHING but investigate everything about Bill Clinton for YEARS. And, the right did not wait for him to leave office. They attacked him in every pathetic way possible, using the legal system to do so, while he was the president of the United States.
Are you really going to try and claim that they did not go after Clinton? Or are you suggesting because G-Dub did not do it personally, then it does not count? I am just still somewhat curious as to which is more prominent in your thoughts, partisanship or ignorance. I find you to be an interesting case-study in the downfall of the Republican party.
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