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Conservative media unleash anti-gay rhetoric in attacks on Jennings

October 01, 2009 10:00 am ET — 45 Comments

The latest target in the Glenn Beck-driven conservative media witch hunt for Obama administration "czars" is Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools director Kevin Jennings. In their attacks on Jennings, numerous conservative media figures have resorted to thinly veiled homophobic appeals to paint Jennings, who is gay, as a "radical" "gay activist" with an "agenda" of "promoting homosexuality in schools," and have misrepresented or distorted Jennings' previous comments about religion and tolerance.

In 1995, Jennings noted right wing's use of code words to fearmonger about school safety programs for LGBT students

WorldNetDaily's Bob Unruh quoted the following from a 1995 speech delivered by Jennings at a Human Rights Campaign Fund Leadership Conference:

"If the radical right can succeed in portraying us as preying on children, we will lose. Their language -- 'promoting homosexuality' is one example -- is laced with subtle and not-so-subtle innuendo that we are 'after their kids.' "

"We must learn from the abortion struggle, where the clever claiming of the term 'pro-life' allowed those who opposed abortion on demand to frame the issue to their advantage, to make sure that we do not allow ourselves to be painted into a corner before the debate even begins." [WorldNetDaily, 9/17/09]

Media conservatives attack Jennings with extreme, fearmongering rhetoric

Erik Rush: Jennings is a "radical homosexual druggie." Rush wrote in a WorldNetDaily commentary that Jennings is "a radical homosexual who ... has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, and written unapologetically about his own drug use." Rush added, "One has to ask oneself why it is that Obama repeatedly chooses some of the most wildly inappropriate individuals one could conceive of to serve in high-level positions. A radical homosexual druggie for his 'safe schools czar'? It's practically inconceivable." Rush continued, "Obama, being a creature of the farthest left, has no qualms whatever about allowing activist homosexuals -- or people who are soft on drugs -- to set the moral agenda for this country; the more dysfunctional and enslaved to sensualism we are, the more easily manipulated we will be. And going after the children, as we have learned, is nothing new." [WorldNetDaily, 10/1/09]

Washington Times: "Jennings has made extremely radical statements promoting homosexuality in schools." The Washington Times editorial board wrote, "Mr. Jennings has made extremely radical statements promoting homosexuality in schools and about his utter contempt for religion that render him unsuitable for a prestigious White House appointment." [The Washington Times, 9/28/09]

Limbaugh: Jennings "is a guy promoting homosexuality in the schools." Rush Limbaugh stated: "[I]f you wonder why the libs are really ticked off that [director] Roman Polanski might be extradited to face the music on that long-ago act with the 13-year-old girl, Quaaludes and rape, understand that Obama's safe school czar is a guy promoting homosexuality in the schools and encouraged a 15-year-old kid to have a homosexual relationship with an older man, and even facilitated it. As I say, Snerdley, I wasn't even going to get to this today, but you asked me about Polanski, and that's that." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show, 9/28/09]

Hannity: "[T]his is a guy that's advocated promoting homosexuality in schools." Fox News' Sean Hannity stated that "this is a guy that's advocated promoting homosexuality in schools. This is a guy we have talked about his past. He's had contempt for religion, et cetera, et cetera. ... Isn't the issue here that what they're teaching oftentimes, value-wise, contradicts what parents are teaching? And isn't that morally wrong?" He later added, "I don't know what it is about liberals. I think they think they have the right to raise our kids. I mean, you know, the idea that you would promote whatever your agenda, on sexuality, any controversial issue." [Fox News' Hannity, 9/25/09]

Malkin: "[C]ontroversial homosexual rights' advocate" Jennings founded "controversial" organization which "aggressively pushes sexually explicit" books. As an example of the Obama administration's "radicalism," Michelle Malkin wrote that "the White House has embraced controversial homosexual rights' advocate Kevin Jennings as 'Safe Schools czar.' Jennings founded the controversial GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network), which aggressively pushes sexually explicit, age-inappropriate books and lesson plans on alternative lifestyles." [MichelleMalkin.com, 9/25/09]

Dobbs guest Tony Perkins says "bizarre" Jennings seeks "to mainstream homosexuality in schools." On his radio show, Lou Dobbs stated, "There's suddenly a major political storm around him, charges that he has promoted homosexuality in schools, acknowledged past drug abuse, at one time demonstrating contempt for religion itself. Can any of that be true?" Perkins replied: "Well, unfortunately it is. I mean, this guy is bizarre, and it shows just how radical this administration is in pushing forward policies. ... This guy -- he established GLSEN ... to mainstream homosexuality in the schools." Perkins added, "This is an agenda that is being targeted all the way down to kindergarten. So this is -- the idea that this guy is heading up a safe and drug-free school program, and that he is advocating the expansion of homosexuality in the school and the curriculum" and that "people send their kids to school to get an education, and not to be recruited into a network of sexual behavior, whether it's homosexual behavior or heterosexual behavior." [United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show, 9/24/09]

Fox News' Kilmeade claims Jennings "promoted homosexuality in schools" and "expressed contempt for religion." During a Fox & Friends segment, co-host Brian Kilmeade stated, "[T]he safe school czar position was actually from George Bush's administration in 2002. President Bush said we need something like this. But maybe this wasn't the job -- this wasn't the resume he thought he'd get: Former schoolteacher who has promoted homosexuality in schools. Also, he has a -- he details a report on how he did not report an incident with an underage student who had sex with an older man, and also has expressed contempt for religion. So, as you expand the resume, it might not be the perfect candidate." [Fox News' Fox & Friends, 9/24/09]

FoxNews.com: Jennings "has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools." FoxNews.com reported that Jennings "is a former schoolteacher who has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, written about his past drug abuse, expressed his contempt for religion and detailed an incident in which he did not report an underage student who told him he was having sex with older men." The article also stated that GLSEN "has also been accused of promoting homosexuality in schools." [FoxNews.com, 9/23/09]

On Hannity, Noelle Nikpour said "gay activist" Jennings is Obama's most dangerous czar. On his Fox News show, Hannity asked Republican strategist Noelle Nikpour, "Who do you think is the most dangerous?" Nikpour answered: "Well, I think it's Kevin Jennings. Not only that, that he's a gay activist, but he was part of the GLISTEN. He was the former director for GLISTEN. They held a conference in which techniques for, I think it was, homosexuality, how to perform different techniques. That's insane." The Wall Street Journal's Stephen Moore then added, "Remember, we -- used to be that sex education was putting condoms on bananas. Lord knows what they're going to do now." [Hannity, 9/18/09 (from Nexis)]

WorldNetDaily: Jennings boasted about "us[ing] the concept of 'safety' in schools to promote homosexual advocacy in public schools." In a WorldNetDaily "exclusive," Unruh wrote that GLSEN "promotes homosexuality in schools" and that Jennings "once boasted that he introduced homosexual advocacy into the school system in Massachusetts by manipulating the message presented to lawmakers. ... [H]e gave a speech in which he described how he has used the concept of 'safety' in schools to promote homosexual advocacy in public schools in Massachusetts." [WorldNetDaily, 9/17/09]

New American: Jennings is "devious," "career homosexual activist" with "subversive agenda." Calling on Jennings "to be expelled from the nation's classrooms," William Jasper wrote that Jennings "admits to using deception when pushing a subversive agenda that would be rigorously opposed by the vast majority of Americans if honestly promoted under its true colors." Jasper added, "What is Jennings agenda? Promoting homosexuality (in all its various permutations) under the guise of promoting 'safe schools.' " Jasper wrote that Jennings intends to use his position in the administration "to greatly expand the GLSEN program of subverting and perverting their captive public-school audience." Jasper wrote of Jennings' 1995 speech, "It is this deviousness of Jennings and GLSEN & Co. that is most alarming, especially now that they have captured citadels of power inside the massive federal bureaucracy of the U.S. Department of Education and appear to have the full blessings of the Obama White House to work their way with our children." [New American, 9/11/09]

Conservative media distort Jennings' remark about "promoting homosexuality"

Conservative media echo FRC's "Stop Jennings" campaign. Media conservatives' baseless claim that Jennings "promoted homosexuality in schools" echoes the Family Research Council's "Stop Jennings" campaign, which quoted Jennings saying during October 25, 1997, remarks at GLSEN's mid-Atlantic conference, "I can envision a day when straight people say, 'So what if you're promoting homosexuality?' ... That is our mission from this day forward" [ellipsis in original].

But Jennings actually expressed hope that some day "most straight people ... wouldn't necessarily equate homosexuality with something bad." FRC distorted Jennings' remarks, as the blog Good As You noted. In his remarks, Jennings was actually calling for tolerance; he talked about countering "stereotypes and misinformation" in order to change peoples' views about homosexuality over time and stated that GLSEN's "mission from this day forward" was "[t]o not lose our faith, to not lose our belief that the world can, indeed, be a different place." Jennings also spoke in reference to a day when "most straight people, when they would hear that someone was promoting homosexuality ... wouldn't necessarily equate homosexuality with something bad that you would not want to promote" and "a day when straight people say, 'So what if you're promoting homosexuality?' Or straight kids say, 'Hey, why don't you and your boyfriend come over before you go to the prom and try on your tuxes on at my house?' " Peter LaBarbera, president of a group that seeks to "expos[e] and counter the homosexual activist agenda," published a transcript of Jennings' 1997 remarks that LaBarbera said were reprinted from the Lambda Report.

From LaBarbera's transcript of Jennings' remarks, with the portions FRC quoted in bold:

JENNINGS: Two years ago, one of our board members, one named Ann Simon, was called to testify before Congress when they had hearings on the promotion of homosexuality in schools. And we were busy putting out press releases, and saying, 'We're not promoting homosexuality, that's not what our program's about. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.' And my best friend, who's a straight women [sic] who lives in London, e-mailed me ... and she said, 'So what if you are?' And I thought of how I can get so wrapped up in my own defensiveness, and ... the day-to-day struggle, and stuff, that being finished might some day mean that most straight people, when they would hear that someone was promoting homosexuality, would say 'Yeah, who cares?' because they wouldn't necessarily equate homosexuality with something bad that you would not want to promote. And when we were talking there, and Mike said, 'You know, and I'd like five years from now -- right now let's face it, for large swells of people they think of GLSEN and kids, and they think, 'GLSEN is bad for kids.' They do because of their stereotypes and misinformation -- I'd like five years from now for most Americans when they hear the word GLSEN to think, 'Ooh, that's good for kids.''

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JENNINGS: All of us who are thinking this way are crazy, because you know what? Sane people keep the world the same [sh*tty] old way it is now. It's the people who think, 'No, I can envision a day when straight people say, 'So what if you're promoting homosexuality?' Or straight kids say, 'Hey, why don't you and your boyfriend come over before you go to the prom and try on your tuxes on at my house?' That if we believe that can happen, we can make it happen. The only thing that will stop us is our lack of faith that we can make it happen. That is our mission from this day forward. To not lose our faith, to not lose our belief that the world can, indeed, be a different place.

Conservative media misrepresent Jennings' remarks about religion

Think Progress: Jennings indicated that "he later returned to religion," and he went on to join a Protestant seminary. Many media figures have claimed that Jennings, in Kilmeade's words, "has expressed contempt for religion" -- which is based on a statement Jennings made in his memoir, Mama's Boy, Preacher's Son, and has also been a component of FRC's campaign against Jennings. FRC quoted a passage from Jennings' memoir, in which Jennings writes: "God ... had done nothing but cause me pain and anguish through His inaction and malevolence throughout my childhood. ... What had he done for me, other than make me feel shame and guilt? Squat. Screw you, buddy -- I don't need you around anymore, I decided. " However, as the blog Think Progress noted, FRC ignored "what Jennings writes a few sentences later: that he later returned to religion." Think Progress also noted that Jennings "went on to serve as an active member on the board of the Union Theological Seminary (UTS) in New York, the nation's most prestigious Protestant seminary."

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 01, 2009 10:20 am ET)
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      Why is this not surprising? These people won't be satisfied until the USA becomes a theocratic Christian state.
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      • Author by The_Cat (October 01, 2009 10:35 am ET)
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        As a liberal Christian, that thought frightens me extremely. I oppose the idea of a theocracy because I can see a little ways down that road, and I know that after they are done rounding up all those with whom they currently disagree, I am the next person they will come for. Why? Because I do not believe the same way they do about the Bible. Because I will be considered a heretic. And what they do to me will be far worse than what they did to anyone before, because they will believe that I deserve it, that I need it to cleanse my soul of heresy. Organized religion is bad enough. It becomes a horror unleashed when it gains control of politics as well. It would be the Salem witch trials on a national scale. It would be the Inquisition come again. It would be the end of the United States.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (October 01, 2009 10:42 am ET)
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          And how different is the Christian version of "death to infidels" any different from radical fundamentalist Islam?

          Good post, BTW...
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          • Author by Conchobhar (October 01, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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            Second the motion, Irony. I'm a dog lover myself, but this Cat's OK. Kudos.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 01, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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            The only difference is the "seperation of church and state" that these radcial psycho's claim dosen't exsist or want to destroy.

            History shows that, absent of legal restraint, Christians have very little compunction whatsoever about killing even other Christians who disagree with them. From the Crusades, to the Inquisition in Spain, to the numerous Religious wars in England, to the conquest of the American Continents, to the Witch trials in Salem to the Troubles in Northern Ireland, to the murder of Harvey Milk, Matthew Sheppard and Geogre Tiller.

            If anythone thinks that anything other then the law stops Christian radicals from killing their opponents, there are a few million corpses anywhere from 1 to 1000 years old that say otherwise.

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            • Author by right ON (October 01, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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              I firmly believe in the separation of church and state; and find many of these far rightwing fanatics, who corrupt their Christian faith and use the Bible as a bludgeoning tool to bash those they don't like, reprehensible.

              However, to conflate them with some vast terrorist network of Islamic fundamentalist radical nuts operating out of caves and planning and plotting to destroy thousands and thousands of people they hate by flying planes of innocent citizens into buildings and blowing up subways is flat out nonsense, fear mongering lunacy. If you believe the threats are equivalent in any way, shape or form, then I feel sorry for you.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (October 01, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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                I'm more scared of some Christian nutjob in my town on marching orders from hate radio coming into my church guns a-blazing (you know, like the guy who shot up the church because he wanted to kill Democrats) then of the Islamic radical nuts 10,000 miles away.
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              • Author by The_Cat (October 01, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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                I have some fear of any group of armed zealots, whether they claim to follow my God or not. I have a very simple definition of zealot, too: anyone who cannot laugh about a deeply held belief has become entirely too serious about it, and is likely a danger to themselves and others.

                I think back to the cartoons of Mohammed, which caused a huge uproar, and think those who would burn down publishing houses because of a cartoon are zealots. Same with people who were so violently opposed to The Last Temptation of Christ. I did not see the movie, but Hollywood is free to tell whatever story they want, because it will not affect what I know to be true.
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                • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
                     
                  Well said. I hope that all sides can realize it has it's zealots and extremists even the far left which most of the media regularly ignore. This in turn enrages the far right and it's media nuts and a spiraling cycle continues both sides wit it's own nut jobs.
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              • Author by knowlies (October 01, 2009 8:39 pm ET)
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                Christian fanatics and Muslim fanatics differ only in their methods. The goals of both are nearly the same and equally dangerous.
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            • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
                 
              Over simplification lumping all Christianity into what was mostly Catholic actions and lumping in all Christians with radical is the same as lumping in all environmentalists with ELF or all Islam with it's radicals, or all liberals with its et al. IT is this polarization that gets both sides so angry with each other.

              All the name calling and exaggerations on both sides is pointless and encourages a cycle of bad behavior and hatred also on all sides. Someone has to take the higher ground instead of this endless race to the bottom.
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            • Author by Ofermod (October 01, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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              History shows that, absent of legal restraint, Christians have very little compunction whatsoever about killing even other Christians who disagree with them.


              I'd change that to "History shows that, even with legal restraint, people have very little compunction whatsoever about killing even other people who disagree with them."

              Since, I mean, it isn't like Christians are the only religion where members kill people, even with a strict prohibition written into their religious tenets about not killing. Nor is it that only those who are religious kill people.

              If you're going to decide to name historical events where Christians killed people, I can just as easily name them where Christians were killed. Christians having their throats slit in Turkey, gunmen attacking churches in Pakistan, and that's just to name a few. And most of those are more recent than quite a few you name, if I decide to go back more than, say, 10 years, I could easily compile a ridiculously huge amount of casualties. I mean, even the Crusades were a response to a call to help because the Byzantine Empire was being attacked by Muslims.
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            • Author by Flyoverman (October 01, 2009 9:59 pm ET)
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              Before you wax too eloquent you might consider that perhaps evil people do things in the name of religon to provide justification for their evil. What they "preached" is not what is preached from the pulpits of the vast majority of Christian churches. Using your logic one could make the same comparison between Progressives and the acts of Mao, Hitler, Stalin, and most Roman Emperors. Such a comparison is as overly simplified as yours.

              I am a Christian and like you I have no scientific proof of when life begins. I choose to select conception as that time, because to choose another point in the timeline without irrefutable evidence to the contrary means that I COULD unknowingly kill a human being. Does that position to perhaps err of the side of not wanting to inadvertently end a human life reflect the description you have put forward of what a Christian is? I think you might consider less postering and more dialouge with your philosophical opposites.
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        • Author by Y.Cruz (October 01, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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          This country is scaring me. The so-called Christians are getting rabid in their rhetoric. We the "unbelievers" may someday be burned at the stakes for heresy. Their Bible must be full of hatred.
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        • Author by KeepingtheFaith (October 01, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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          Hmm....I love contraditions in terms like "liberal Christian." Guess George Tiller was a "liberal Christian" as well, right? A true follower of Christ knows that there is only one interpretation of the Bible; we cannot "choose" parts to believe and parts to ignore. There is only one way to believe the Bible - that is it the divine, unerrant Word of God that serves to provide a roadmap for Christian life. There is no alternative path - only the ONE way, truth, and life, Jesus Christ.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 02, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
               
            "Hmm....I love contraditions in terms like "liberal Christian." Guess George Tiller was a "liberal Christian" as well, right? A true follower of Christ knows that there is only one interpretation of the Bible; we cannot "choose" parts to believe and parts to ignore. There is only one way to believe the Bible - that is it the divine, unerrant Word of God that serves to provide a roadmap for Christian life. There is no alternative path - only the ONE way, truth, and life, Jesus Christ." - Keeping

            Right. So slavery is OK and women are to be treated as property. How....Christian of you.
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        • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
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          I completely agree with you statement and fear, accept these are the same fears many independents and libertarians fear about the current and the last administration. With the opposite effect, those who do not agree with a strong socialist or progressive agenda are also being slowly silenced. Many in this administration have indicated the intention to do that. I may not agree with them, but I worry that stifling anyones opinions even those I disagree with will in the end hurt me when I have an opinion whatever administration is in power does not like. I believe in total freedom of the media and of free speech, even when I don't like what they say.
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      • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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        Which it used to be.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (October 01, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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      You know what, there are kids in school who know they are gay, and they wait for someone to tell them that being gay is okay, they hope that no one will beat them up or call them names and they struggle with being able to tell friends and families what they are. Some kids have accepting families who continue to love them for who they are, some have parents who want them treated and converted, and some kids are thrown out of their families. Some of these students come together for strength, acceptance, and encouragement. If being gay is something someone is, and not a choice or a defect, shouldn't they be allowed to be here and be queer in safety? I guess saying yes to these kids who have these struggles is promoting homosexuality. But, I guess telling them that they have to stay in hiding as the straight kids flirt and make out or dance together just means that straight kids are okay and don't want to feel they are being picked on or made uncomfortable because being gay or queer is wrong after all.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 01, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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        Conservtaives don't care. Protecting these kids from assault, abuse, ridicule, depression and suicide is akin to "turning them gay."

        They'd rather see these kids dead than accepted. That's the simple fact of it.

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        • Author by epkklk851 (October 01, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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          I know, and I agree with your point. But I have someone close to me who is gay, and they matter to me and I know there was nothing done to "turn them gay." They're here, they're queer, and they're dear!
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 01, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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            I have no family members (that I know of) who are gay, but have had many gay friends and co-workers over the years. I personally never gave their sexuality a second thought, and got on well with every one of them.

            Well... except one... but she was just a real pain in the @$$. Had nothing to do with her being gay though! LOL

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            I just don't understand homophobia. I just don't get it.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (October 01, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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              I had gay friends before I knew about this person, I have never asked directly if they are gay, and they've never asked me if I was straight, it was just something that was understood, but I also knew that there were some people that I had to shield that information from, and I had to protect my gay friends' privacy. And it wasn't always from people you would suspect. I remember a Scout Leader and former Army Officer (a woman) asking me why a gay man would go into teaching, the only reason to her had to be because a gay man was a pedofile. I just smiled and said because they liked teaching. She didn't mean any harm, but she didn't understand either. What can you say?
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            • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
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              Sometimes what is labeled homophobia is more a fear of indoctrination and propaganda. I have to agree with everything you said. I have many gay coworkers and friends, I have no problem with any of them specific to their being gay. I judge people by what they do, how they act, how they contribute. Gays I have worked with that I did have a problem with were the few who could not leave their sexual lives at home, who needed others not to just accept them but to embrace their gayness, to participate in it, to celebrate it. I don't need you to know about my personal life to be able to work with you, I don't need you to embrace my hobbies, religion, politics or lifestyle to work with you. Why do some gays feel a need to not just, be gay? Why do they have to interject their gayness into everything like a religious zealot that drags religion into everything at work, or a political nut that makes everything about politics. Sometimes these types of people are asked to tone it down, only if your gay it's homophobic to ask me to tone it down or keep things professional. But if it's some other thing I obsess over it's okay to ask me to keep that out of the workplace. Just because someone does not like you does not mean they are a homophobe for disagreeing with you. Just like everyone who disagrees with Obama is not a racist. I can like somethings he does and not others and neither has anything to do with race. I have gay friends and gay rivals at work, it has nothing o do with their being gay, it has everything to do with how they work, gayness should have nothing to do with it, pulling the homo card is too often used as a crutch to defend weak arguments, an excuse not to perform, or not to be a team player. Just because everyone is out to get me doesn't mean I'm paranoid! :-)
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        • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
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          Thats a ridiculous point of view perhaps 1 in a million feel that way. There is a big deference between people who hate and people who don't want someone else's lifestyle choices shoved down their throats. I have lived in a lot of places conservative and very liberal, there is hate everywhere and from all sides. The places where people can and are more easily accepted are where everyone gets to be what they are without any of the others trying to force their point of view on others. I've seen plenty of hate in S.F. for example by gays who have no tolerance for those who are not or those who have no problems with whatever your into so long as you don't try to make me be a part of it. This is where many so called conservatives get scared and fearful. Most have no problems with what ever you are, most don't care, some may fear you because they are different, just like any other stereotype fears another that is deferent from them. Few wish death on others or have real hate. Most hate crimes are done by people who from lack of maturity or upbringing hate more than just gays, these are the same people who are bigots, hate certain religions, races, cultures etc. and would be found lacking by anyone, not just gays. Lumping all conservatives into this small narrow group is part of what polarizes them against you. They see this kind of hate speech directed at them, knowing it's not true and you do as well, and just as many here fear those they perceive as enemies the hate speech like this and others here are part of why they fear and later hate you in return. Learn to love them, follow King's example and show them that you are no threat to them. Peace can only come when one side is willing to step back and demonstrate to the other that they have nothing to fear so they too can step down from the edge. SPouting hate from both sides does nothing to create a solution it only fires up more hate and fear.
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          • Author by epkklk851 (October 02, 2009 7:03 am ET)
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            You spend a lot of time putting down people who are blatantly gay, you say you would accept being told to stop celebrating something about yourself if you were asked to do so in the work environment, and for you, that may be true. I have found, however, that a lot of conservatives are very much into celebrating their conservativeness and they won't tone it down, and if a liberal offers a differing point of view, they are attacked. The fact of the matter is this, their are people of all stripes who bring one aspect of themselves into the workplace when they probably shouldn't-the mantrap woman, the lounge lizard guy, Pharasee Phil and Phillys, Good old Jock Strap, who never met a sport he wasn't obsessed with or Shop-til-she-dropped-Sharon or Sellin' Sam. The point is, most of these people are tolerated, and they aren't asked to tone it down and gay men are. I spent a lot of my life keeping my mouth shut because I knew what I had to say wouldn't make me popular. I have heard an awful lot of hateful things said about liberals with no basis of fact. What is happening to Mr. Jennings is smear politics, and nothing more. Sean Hannity is a lying bigot, why doesn't he tone it down or why isn't he fired for preaching hate? What is your answer to that. By the way, the first lie I heard him tell was that children in California were required to pray to Mecca when learning about Islam. He has no compunctions against lying straight into the camera, why does he deserve to be on television?
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            • Author by carbonware (October 02, 2009 10:08 am ET)
                 
              I agree with most of your comments other than I think every person with a personal cause or issue thinks they are persecuted. Like people who blame others hatred of their race because they did not get a promotion they really did not deserve, or a white conservative male who thinks he is reverse discriminated against because there was a woman or minority that moves forward when he does not. Every self identifying group has in it people who are sure that all their problems in life, at work or in society is someone else's fault and never their own. But the fact is many people are jerks regardless of what they believe, where they are from, their sex. For example women who are jerks like to pretend they are strong and complain that everyone hates them and considers them bitchy while complaining that a man doing the same thing would not be treated like her. While in fact she (or in the case of anyone's bad behavior, selfishness, rudeness) is still a jerk. Some people give themselves and excuse to be a jerk and then tie it into their issue so as to make others uncomfortable and justify they're bad behavior. A bitch is sometimes just a bitch and not really just a strong woman. An actual strong PERSON demonstrates wisdom, considers others perspectives, can be assertive yet fair, strong yet a good listener for example. These are attributes often left at the door and replaced with rudeness, selfishness, grandstanding, manipulating, stealing others work, taken others credit etc. But if I'm a protected class, a minority I can side step all this and be an ass and still feel free to blame it on everyones prejudice against my protected issue. This is one of the topics Bill Crosby preaches to Blacks about. To stop blaming others, being lazy or looking for shortcuts. Be responsible, learn, contribute, earn respect.

              Singling out Sean Hanity is way too easy, everyone can trot out an example of a person who does not like this or that. I can just as easily point to liberal liars on MSNBC or Huffington Post. I do read and watch news from a variety of angles, something far too few do. I get a kick for example of people who trash Hanity or Glen Beck but never actually watch them, instead passing along hearsay without checking facts like the boiling frog story from last week. Yes they are both sensationalizing entertainers not reporters. So I give both a lot of leeway. As I do with other entertainers who pretend to be news reporters on liberal leaning news. So while I offer no excuses for Hanity or Beck I also offer none for Michael Moore, Huffington or a number of others who regularly stretch, lie or manipulate the facts to get people excited and enraged. Thats what they get paid to do. No one would read a moderate and fair news paper or watch a truly balanced and impartial news program. Nor do I take most of them too seriously either examining many sources you can often find the real true which is often not nearly as sizzling as either side tries to make it. What scares me is those who only get their information from a few sources preaching to their choir.
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              • Author by epkklk851 (October 02, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
                   
                Well, I may be guilty of only having knowledge of Sean and Rush through this outlet. I will NOT spend that much time watching them, they are too dangerous. They traffic in lies and unsubstaniated facts and only claim to be entertainers or commentators when it suits them (usually when caught in lies.) I truly believe that the only thing that evil needs to triumph is for good people to do nothing. Sean and Glenn are doing evil things and therefore it is my duty to speak out against them and I am grateful for this forum to allow that. And I beg to differ on your assertion that no one would watch a fair and impartial newscast. I think the NewsHour is as impartial as human beings can get, and they bring in opposing sides and give them a forum to discuss issues. And I do think that society is far less tolerant of strong women and minorities than it is of men with the same attributes. Prejudice is real, but some people are jerks. But the way, I have been called that five letter work on message boards in the past, but it was usually when I was being fact based, articulate, reasoned, and assertive. It was usually done by men who lacked my facts or my education and responded in frustration to loosing the argument.
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (October 01, 2009 10:55 am ET)
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      Rush continued, "Obama, being a creature of the farthest left, has no qualms whatever about allowing activist homosexuals -- or people who are soft on drugs -- to set the moral agenda for this country; the more dysfunctional and enslaved to sensualism we are, the more easily manipulated we will be.

      I guess Rush is talking about himself here. I mean who is enslaved to "sensualism" (appetites of the body) more than Rush, eh? Big cigars, food, wine, drugs and from what some say.......sex. With whom we don't exactly know. And I won't speculate.

      But this eejit on steroids is a fine one to be talking about sensualism, never mind morality.

      Does anybody else wish Obama was even a little tiny bit left, forget being "the furthest left"?
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      • Author by The_Cat (October 01, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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        I wish he was more leftist than he currently is, juliajayne1. He has become very centrist since the election, and I think partly in an effort at bipartisanship. The time for that is quickly passing by, as the Republicans have proven that they will block, distort, lie, and propagandize to further their opposition to whatever he proposes.

        Soon, I hope, he will leave the Republicans behind, take the reins of the Democratic Party firmly in hand, and get some serious work done. There is much to do, and time is fleet footed.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (October 01, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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      This is some of the most scurrilous cherry-picking of quotes, pulling them out of context, that I've ever seen. It's disgusting what the right wing is trying to do to this man.

      They're doing somewhat the same thing with his story about the 16 year-old he mentioned in his 2000 speech. There is far too much that we don't know about that situation to make broad judgments about Jennings.
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      • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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        We know he had a legal obligation to report it an he did not. We know he has sanctioned illegal drugs and that he himself has declared his primary interest in this position was gay rights which is fine. Just call it what it is. This has little to do with Obama and lots to do with political pay back. Bush had just as many whack jobs working for him. But the left has a real hard time looking at it's own and calling out poor judgement or ethical standards. We seem very forgiving of things we would not tolerate for a moment if it was done or said from a conservative or republican. For anything we say to be counted as ethical we need to clean our own house then we have the moral high ground to demand republicans do the same. Otherwise we are just the same thing with a deferent set of actors.
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    • Author by Truth Crusader (October 01, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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      "If the radical right can succeed in portraying us as preying on children, we will lose. Their language -- 'promoting homosexuality' is one example -- is laced with subtle and not-so-subtle innuendo that we are 'after their kids.' "

      There must not be video of this, otherwise Hannity surely would have cropped "...we are after their kids" and had a manufactured conniption.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 01, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
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        Ha ! If he has his helpers monitoring this site, you may have just tipped him off, TC.
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        • Author by carbonware (October 01, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
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          We are monitoring, Whoops oh no now you know! Just kidding, I guess I could be since I'm a dreaded independent, I hate both parties and most politicians most of the time.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (October 01, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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      Overt bigotry. Disgusting.
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    • Author by Flyoverman (October 01, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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      The issue with Jennings was his inability to protect a child. You have an adult in a sexual relationship that was according to the laws of that sate statutory rape. The gender of either party has no relevance. In his position Mr. Jennings had a legal obligation to enforce the laws of the state; a requirement to hold the license he held. Further, he had the professional obligation to protect a child from an adult sexual predator.

      That folks is beyond dispute. Jennings did not measure up. Is he the best person we can find here? Let's hope not.
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    • Author by Cannonball (October 01, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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      It's funny how when people try to support a stereotype, like gay people, black people, Jewish people, always say things like, I'm not gay/black/jewish but have a lot of gay/black/jewish friends and they are fine upstanding people. Blah, blah. blah. You think you are enlightened, but you still categorize people in easy to digest elements thereby patronizing them and diminishing their true character. I am a person first, everything else is secondary. If you want someone to sleep with, my being gay or not gay will likely matter to you. If you want someone to go to temple with, my being jewish or not would be a thought. But don't cast me in your scenerio of acceptable people because I can be categorized, that's dehumanizing. Try this, judging people by category, regardless of the standard you apply, is presumptuous to be sure, but mostly it's simply inaccurate. Which means, not helpful.
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      • Author by carbonware (October 02, 2009 10:16 am ET)
           
        Thank you and well stated. I strive not to judge at all, but if I must it is based on who you are and what you do and how you live your life, not by race, creed, color, sex, or persuasion. I admire hardworking, funny, fair, generous, kind, loving, forgiving, contributing people.

        I despise narrow-minded sheep, the selfish, liars, manipulators, grandstanding, rudeness, power-mongers, and those who wish to control or lord over others for any reason.

        I value wisdom and selflessness, and those who serve others. I don't care about any other personal identifiers and am happy for others happiness, please don't infringe upon mine or my freedoms. And for goodness sake why do so many need to broadcast what really should be personal and private. Live you life, let me live mine and we both can be at peace. DOn't impose your world views on others and I will not impose mine on others either.
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    • Author by manofmystique (October 02, 2009 11:53 am ET)
         
      Another "scandal" created by Fox News and now other networks are covering this non-story. What ever happened to common sense? Twenty years ago and no criminal charges is something you can't hold against no one. Hell, Jennings wrote about this incident in his own book and it happened when he was a young man. How many of us had poor judgment during our early years?
      Fox News' Sean [Klan]nity is setting back laughing at all the suckers who help make this News. This is more stupidity coming from the right.
      Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Fox News make it clear that they are going after Obama and his administration? So why are they falling for this foolishness, disguised as News? This is nothing more than Bill Ayers and Rev Wright guilt by association BS. Fox News should be the story, not Jennings. FOX News is masterminding and creating News and calling it "controversy" or a "scandal" for the sole purpose of making other people look bad. This is not right and they should be held accountable.
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    • Author by EZ4you2say (October 02, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
         
      You lefties call us nuts. You're no better. The first line of the story at the top of this page alludes to a "Glenn Beck-driven conservative media witch hunt", but yet there is not one story on the page attributed to Glenn Beck.

      MMFA just figures if they use Glenn Beck's name it'll whip all you guys up in a big freny!

      Classic
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