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Dear Mom, Beck has history of sexist comments

October 06, 2009 5:52 pm ET — 151 Comments

Recently, Glenn Beck has claimed that his audience has seen an increase in its proportion of women and has promoted the website AsAMom.org -- a "Network of principled mothers, grandmothers, daughters, & guardians of our nation's children dedicated to" the 9 Principles & 12 Values Beck established -- and hosted its members on his Fox News show. However, Beck has a history of outrageous sexist comments including calling then-Sen. Hillary Clinton a "stereotypical bitch," telling a CNN Headline News colleague that she was "looking hot in leather" on the air, and reportedly once calling a rival radio host's wife and ridiculing her on the air for having a miscarriage.

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Beck claims large female audience and promotes "9/12 Moms"

Beck: "I noticed that women were calling my program more than men were."

BECK: You know what? I think it was about a year ago that I was on my radio program and I noticed something, and I said it on the air. I don't remember when it was, but I -- it was when the financial crisis was really starting to hit, and I noticed that women were calling my program more than men were, and it was different and they had a different conversation with me. And I said at the time, I think men right now are freaking out, going, "How am I going to feed my family?" And women were sitting back and seeing the bigger picture and saying, "Wait a minute. What does this mean for the long term?" Women have gotten it, I think, far beyond -- far sooner than men in this country. And yet, that's all you ever hear from on the tea parties. That's all they ever want to paint. Or all they ever want to show are the angry men.

But it's the women, the moms, that I think truly have an idea of what's going on. And I want to bring you to the second one that you had a concern on -- parents losing their rights. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 9/28/09]

Beck promoted AsAMom.org -- an organization affiliated with the 9/12 Project, which Beck founded -- and hosted "the 9/12 moms."

BECK: America, we're going to go in a different direction here in just a second, but I want to tell you, AsAMom.org is just the beginning -- just the beginning. Moms, you are going to make the difference.

More with the 9-12 moms and the signs of the times -- next.

[...]

BECK: Well, I want to thank the 9/12 moms for being with us. You can go to "AsAmom.org," right? "AsAMom.org" and you can connect all weekend long. [Glenn Beck, 10/2/09]

According to its website, AsAMom.org is a "[n]etwork of principled mothers, grandmothers, daughters, & guardians of our nation's children dedicated to the 9 Principles & 12 Value" and "a labor of love by Mommy Patriots who wholeheartedly subscribe to the 9 Principles & the 12 Values of the 9.12 Project." Beck founded and has repeatedly promoted the 9-12 Project, which describes itself as "a place for you and other like-minded Americans looking for direction in taking back the control of our country;" Beck also established the group's "9 Principles and 12 Values"

Beck: "an unusual number of females in the audience" at book signings; "Moms, you are going to make the difference."

BECK: Hello, America. Tonight, we have -- we have a couple of things that we have to do. We're going to spend time with moms. I've been thinking about the show that we did last -- when was it, last Friday -- and I have been getting a ton of response on it. It has been overwhelming.

Last night, I went to Philadelphia and Cherry Hill, New Jersey, I had a couple of book signings to do, and something struck me. The crowds were enormous. They went all the way around -- I don't mean like out the door and kind of around the corner. I mean out the door, around the corner, around the corner, around the corner, all the way around the block. And there was an unusual number of females in the audience. Now, sure, it could be because of my molten hotness. I mean -- who doesn't want a slice of this, huh, ladies?

You don't have to laugh. But they were there, I know, because they're moms. They're grandmas. It is in their nature to protect their children.

[...]

BECK: America, we're going to go in a different direction here in just a second, but I want to tell you, AsAMom.org is just the beginning -- just the beginning. Moms, you are going to make the difference. [Glenn Beck, 10/2/09]

But Beck has history of outrageously sexist comments

Beck on Hillary Clinton: "She's the stereotypical bitch." On his nationally syndicated radio program, Beck claimed that "Hillary Clinton cannot be elected president because ... there's something about her vocal range." Beck went on to comment that "she's the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?" [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 3/17/07]

Beck on "bitch" comment: "[P]robably a better word was nag." After being confronted with calling Clinton "a stereotypical bitch" in an interview with ABC News' Claire Shipman, Beck commented: "And she had that tone of voice, where she just sounds like [covers his ears]. I can't listen to it 'cause it sounds like -- it sounds like my wife saying, 'Take out the garbage.' " Beck went on to say: "Calling her that, no. I don't think I'd call her that. Hope I've never called her that. Saying, sounds like the stereotypical -- probably a better word was nag." [ABC's Good Morning America, 5/30/08]

Beck mimed Hillary Clinton shaving her face. After a guest referenced senators "who see a president in the mirror when they shave in the morning," Beck asked: "OK. Does that include Hillary? Does she shave? ... Does that include Hillary? Does she -- I mean, she -- she shaves her legs. I'm just saying." After the Competitive Enterprise Institute's Chris Horner said, "Now who's being naïve?" Beck -- while jutting out his lower jaw and miming shaving his face -- said: "I can see her in there. 'Gimme a pack of Kool cigarettes, will ya?' " [CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck, 12/17/07]

Beck: "[I]f you're an ugly woman, you're probably a progressive as well." On his radio show, Beck commented: "Ugly people, if you're a guy, you can get past it. I don't think you can as an ugly woman." Beck went on to say that "you've got a double-cross, because if you're an ugly woman, you're probably a progressive as well." [The Glenn Beck Program, 2/14/08]

Beck to female guest: "I've got some time and a camera. Why don't you stop by?" While discussing racy photographs of an American Idol contestant, Beck made sexually suggestive comments to US Weekly's Dina Sansing. Beck claimed that "[y]ou can't take stupid photos and expect those to be ... locked away forever," to which Sansing responded that it was "possibly" true and that "it depends." Beck then asked Sansing: "Dina, I've got some time and a camera. Why don't you stop by?" Sansing did not respond and, after several seconds of silence, Beck stated: "No? OK." [Glenn Beck, 2/28/07]

Beck to colleague: "You are looking hot in leather" Despite introducing CNN Headline News anchor Erica Hill as "the credible part of the program ... with an actual newsperson" Beck told Hill that "[y]ou are looking hot in leather." Beck went on to tell Hill, "I'm wearing leather pants right now" and "Oh, no, I'm not wearing pants." Hill responded: "OK, that was definitely more information than I needed." [Glenn Beck, 5/8/2006]

Beck on being "embarrass[ed]" watching Hill with his wife. In another segment with Hill, Beck told Hill, "I will tell you that it's a little embarrassing sitting there watching your program at night with my wife. And she says, 'Look at the way that Erica is looking at you.' And I say, 'I know, honey.' " Hill replied, "Don't try to drag me in to this one, my friend. I am nothing but professional." [Glenn Beck, 5/10/06]

Beck on Gloria Steinem: "You self-centered, self-righteous, socialist, out-of-control, dangerous, man-hating bitch." Responding to Gloria Steinem's statement that John McCain would be treated differently if he were a woman, Beck exclaimed: "You self-centered, self-righteous, socialist, out-of-control, dangerous, man-hating bitch. Shut your mouth. We might have bought into this crap in the 1960s because too many people were doing LSD. We're not on LSD anymore. You need to start making sense." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/3/2008]

Beck: Rep. Kucinich's wife might be under influence of "date rape drug" After calling Rep. Dennis Kucinich "Gollum," Beck speculated that as to whether his wife, Elizabeth Kucinich, is under the influence of a "date rape drug." Beck described the drug he had in mind as "not powerful enough to actually knock you out, but it's powerful enough to, like, make you think that you're not standing next to Dennis Kucinich and making out with him." Beck continued: "I was thinking cyanide. That would be the only thing that would really dull the senses enough. Even then, your dead body would be like, 'Dennis Kucinich has his tongue in my mouth.' " [The Glenn Beck Program, 6/4/07]

Beck reportedly ridiculed rival radio host's wife for having a miscarriage. Salon.com's Alexander Zaitchik quoted a former Beck colleague describing an incident in which Beck called a rival radio host's wife on the air and ridiculed her for having a miscarriage:

The animosity between Beck and Kelly continued to deepen. When Beck and Hattrick produced a local version of Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" for Halloween -- a recurring motif in Beck's life and career -- Kelly told a local reporter that the bit was a stupid rip-off of a syndicated gag. The slight outraged Beck, who got his revenge with what may rank as one of the cruelest bits in the history of morning radio. "A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."

"It was low class," says Miller, now president of Open Stream Broadcasting. "There are certain places you just don't go."

"Beck turned Y95 into a guerrilla station," says Kelly. "It was an example of the zoo thing getting out of control. It became just about pissing people off, part of the culture shift that gave us 'Jackass.'" Among those who were appalled by Beck's prank call was Beck's own wife, Claire, who had been friends with Kelly's wife since the two worked together at WPGC. [Salon.com, 9/22/09]

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    • Author by Bad News (October 06, 2009 6:11 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck,
      "Journalism's Train Wreck"
      Mr. Beck's attacks on Women have been Duely Noted.
      I could give many examples but all his remarks have been Amptly Quoted.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by diamonds (October 06, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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        Who is calling Beck a journalist? And on what grounds is he a train wreck (beyond your own opinion, of course), seeing as I wouldn't exactly call someone who consistently beats all the other cable news programs combined almost twice over a "train wreck."
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        • Author by Brabantio (October 07, 2009 6:02 am ET)
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          So, you're saying he's not a journalist. But at the same time, the alarming lack of standards and sense that dictate his standing as a non-journalist don't qualify him as a "train wreck" in the context of "journalism".

          Ratings don't have anything to do with it. The man doesn't tell the truth, and spouts inflammatory rhetoric. From the perspective that we would like to have an informed and civil public debate, his presence within that debate is nothing short of a disaster.
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          • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
               
            Those are opinionated statements. Do you have objective evidence to back that up? I personally would call a movie that scores #1 that year a blockbuster, good or bad, likewise, I would say that when you approach the ratings of primetime nightly news from a non-primetime, cable slot that has historically never done nearly as well, that is probably not a train wreck. I don't care who you are talking about, agree or disagree.

            Do you have any evidence he purposefully disseminate incorrect information? Can you back up your opinion it is a train wreck with objective evidence?
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            • Author by Brabantio (October 08, 2009 7:39 pm ET)
                 
              Those are opinionated statements. Do you have objective evidence to back that up?
              Funny, but I don't see anything in the original post which says that it was anything other than an opinion.
              I personally would call a movie that scores #1 that year a blockbuster, good or bad, likewise, I would say that when you approach the ratings of primetime nightly news from a non-primetime, cable slot that has historically never done nearly as well, that is probably not a train wreck.
              What part of "Ratings don't have anything to do with it" is unclear? Ratings have nothing to do with professionalism, honesty or respectability.
              Do you have any evidence he purposefully disseminate incorrect information?
              "Purposefully"? Sure, I have his diary right here, where it says he knows what he's saying is not true. Are you kidding me? Do you think that it's appropriate to dispel false information even by the standards of commentary? Whether it's intentional or not is completely irrelevant.
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              • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
                   
                Funny, but I don't see anything in the original post which says that it was anything other than an opinion.

                I cited the ratings the show gets, non-primetime at that. Ratings, in my opinion, are a very good indicator of how the public at large believes in something. It is a vote that costs people time out of their day to do so. Consistent high ratings mean that people have seen a good performance in the past and expect to continue to see it, whereas the train wreck so awful you can't take your eyes off it doesn't last more than a few episodes (it has to come to a stop, after all).

                What part of "Ratings don't have anything to do with it" is unclear?
                I think ratings do have a bit to do with it. A train wreck would be Fox News spending five million dollars to get this on the air and having an audience of Glenn, the producers, and his mother watching it. But that isn't the case here.

                "professionalism, honesty or respectability" are again, subjective traits. It appears to me Glenn is very sincere, even personal, to his audience, talking about his family, his personal life, and what it has to do with his decisions. If you want to make the assertion that someone is a train wreck based upon your observation of respectability, go ahead, but you won't score any points unless you have objective evidence to back your opinion up.

                I could argue that Colbert is neither professional, honest, nor respectable by the bar Beck sets, yet he gets pretty nice ratings and delivers a funny show to boot. If he isn't a train wreck then why is Glenn?

                Sure, I have his diary right here, where it says he knows what he's saying is not true. Are you kidding me?

                Then you can't make the claim he is lying. You could make the claim he is lying if he purposefully generated a false document about the president's military history, for instance. Or if he generated his own statistics out of thin air and lied about the source. Things like that would prove he is lying. But you don't have any evidence like that, do you?
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                • Author by Brabantio (October 09, 2009 12:54 am ET)
                     
                  Ratings, in my opinion, are a very good indicator of how the public at large believes in something.
                  You're failing to grasp a very simple concept. Whether people believe in something or not has absolutely nothing to do with the standards that the person holds themselves to. On this very leg of the thread you're asking me for objective evidence, while at the same time not realizing that Beck's failure to provide objective evidence is precisely what makes him a "train wreck" in the context of journalism. Some KKK member could have a show dedicated to promoting white power, and he might have fantastic ratings from all of the racists who tune in. That doesn't mean that it's a valuable or informative part of the public discourse.

                  Once more, for emphasis...journalism...and ratings...are two...totally...separate...concepts.

                  "professionalism, honesty or respectability" are again, subjective traits. It appears to me Glenn is very sincere, even personal, to his audience, talking about his family, his personal life, and what it has to do with his decisions.
                  What does that have to do with respectability? Does he have to be an axe murderer or something? A crazy person comes off as sincere, because they really believe what they're saying. Invoking his family doesn't excuse inflammatory rhetoric. And of course they're subjective traits, but so what? Examples of his extremist commentary are highlighted here daily.
                  I could argue that Colbert is neither professional, honest, nor respectable by the bar Beck sets, yet he gets pretty nice ratings and delivers a funny show to boot. If he isn't a train wreck then why is Glenn?
                  Colbert is satire. He's a comedian on a comedy network, while Beck is a commentator on a news network. Is this really supposed to help your argument?
                  Then you can't make the claim he is lying. You could make the claim he is lying if he purposefully generated a false document about the president's military history, for instance.
                  So, you're drawing a distinction between someone saying something untrue and someone lying, based on intent. I suppose I shouldn't have used the word "lying" in my previous post, then. Let's go back and see what I said:
                  The man doesn't tell the truth, and spouts inflammatory rhetoric.
                  Interesting. So you morphed "doesn't tell the truth" into "lied" in order to tell me that I can't claim that he's "lying". That's some brilliant work right there.

                  Again, intent is irrelevant. It's not like anyone who is interested in contributing to a healthy dialogue can say something false and fail to correct it. Is "professionalism" so subjective that you think a complete failure to fact-check might qualify as professional behavior? If you don't believe that, what the hell do you imagine your point is?
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        • Author by goesto11 (October 07, 2009 6:50 am ET)
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          If you don't consider Beck a journalist, why do you insist on comparing his ratings to "all the other cable news programs..."?

          Shouldn't you be comparing his ratings to cartoon shows or MASH re-runs?
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        • Author by overmars jr. (October 07, 2009 7:23 am ET)
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          For the thousandth time, Glenn Beck is not competing with other news shows! He is infotainment, at best.

          Go match his numbers against sitcoms. He is utterly drubbed by "Two and a Half Men" for crying out loud!
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (October 07, 2009 7:25 am ET)
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            Two And A Half Men is INTENTIONALLY funny. ;>)
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          • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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            Yeah, and how are his ratings compared to Olbermann and Maddow again? Overwhelming you say? Interesting.
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            • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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              Yes, and clearly, Bruno was one of the most culturally valuable movies to be released this summer, since it was #1 at the Box Office.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:18 pm ET)
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                The analogy doesn't work. If a movie sucks but opens with other movies that suck even worse, of course it's going to do better.
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                • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
                     
                  Bruno grossed more than both The Hurt Locker and Public Enemies. Does this mean, necessarily, that both of those films were worse than Bruno?
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
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                    I haven't seen any of those movies so I can't comment. I have, however, seen Beck, Olbermann and Maddow many times and I can certain see why the latter two have far worse ratings.
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                    • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
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                      So, it is fair to assume, that ratings are an accurate indication of quality?
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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                        Quality is in the eye of the beholder. Just because you don't agree with Beck or Limbaugh and you agree with Olbermann, it doesn't mean anything. Fox News dominates MSNBC in the ratings which either means there are more conservatives than liberals or liberals would rather watch "Tool Academy" than the news.
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 11:46 am ET)
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                          Actually, what it says is that you think Beck is "the news". This, once again, illustrates perfectly the problem with bothering to engage you in debate, Stark. You have on intention of honest debate. You only spew talking points.
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
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                            I didn't say Beck was the news, I'm talking about the network in general. Beck is a commentator, not a journalist and he doesn't claim otherwise.
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                            • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
                                 
                              "I didn't say Beck was the news,"

                              "Fox News dominates MSNBC in the ratings which either means there are more conservatives than liberals or liberals would rather watch "Tool Academy" than the news."

                              You really do make it too easy, Stark.
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                        • Author by Brabantio (October 08, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
                             
                          Fox News dominates MSNBC in the ratings which either means there are more conservatives than liberals or liberals would rather watch "Tool Academy" than the news.
                          Interesting logic. Why is CNN or any network not in the "news" equation here? I thought those outlets were all liberal, which by your logic would mean that conservatives are vastly dominated in numbers.
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              • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 11:38 pm ET)
                   
                Movie income is purely an indicator of how many people wanted to see the movie.

                Television ratings are an investment of time. You can't gauge the success of a particular movie or episode with ratings, but you can judge a series by it, because people judge how to allocate their time or money based on past performance. If the show delivers consistent ratings, that suggests it consistently satisfies viewers. You could apply the same idea to movies in some situations, high revenue for a Pixar movie doesn't mean that movie was good necessarily (good reviews do help of course), but it does suggest that they have done an awesome job in the past.
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                • Author by Brabantio (October 09, 2009 1:02 am ET)
                     
                  "Satisfies viewers" does not equate with "respectable journalist", though. This is why ratings (or any expression of public opinion, for that matter) have no bearing on a discussion of Beck in the context of journalism.
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          • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
               
            He beats Olbermann in the same time slot seven times over. So yes, he is competing with other news shows.
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        • Author by peace4all (October 07, 2009 8:10 am ET)
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          so we are going to run with the ratings meme? ok, then i guess you would agree that jim jones of jamestown fame must have been a great preacher. after all, he had more followers than most churches and his followers loved him. therefore by your logic, he was a great minister.
          ratings mean nothing except maybe advertising dollars. it has no relation to the truth.

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        • Author by PurpleState (October 07, 2009 9:00 am ET)
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          Beck is not a journalist in the sense that he's not a traditional journalist. His show is basically the answer to the following SAT question:

          The Wall Street Journal is to the National Enquirer as Meet The Press is to __________.

          It's trash television. He's Morton Downey Jr. He's Jerry Springer. He's Rush's original attempt at hosting a television show.
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        • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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          He does.

          Oh, Lord, you're a ratings rah-rah person. First, ratings do not connote quality, honesty nor agreement by viewers. Beck's ratings don't even compete with reruns of Smallville on The CW. [No cable opinion network shows do, for that matter.] Second, you are incorrect in your assessment of Beck's program or any of the cable networks as "news" programs. They are OPINION programs with very little, if any, news. Third, Beck is a train wreck because he has set himself up with his idiocy and his over-the-top lunacy. He has to keep coming up with more and more outrageous stunts to keep his viewers watching. The more outrageous and false his programming, the more he pushes away legitimate advertisers. He's a train wreck just waiting to happen and the time is drawing nearer and nearer for that occurrence.
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          • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 11:49 pm ET)
               
            If you want to talk honesty, let's talk honesty. If you claim he is so dishonest, then you should have no problem showing me a forged survey or military service record, should you?

            Generally they are called the "cable news networks" irrespective of journalists or commentators.

            I missed the part where he is forced to escalate the over the top lunacy to simply hold viewers. It appears to me that the viewers like the visuals and demonstrations, and why deny them that? And as far as I know, he has always very visual/over the top even since his radio program was picked up early 2001 by my local station, when he was mostly entertainment and less commentary (jeopretardy, more-on trivia, etc).

            Media Matters has missed the advertisers he has picked up, and the advertisers other commentary programs (Olbermann mostly) has dropped because the vast majority of advertisers have pulled out of all commentary programs on all networks.
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            • Author by Brabantio (October 09, 2009 1:10 am ET)
                 
              And as far as I know, he has always very visual/over the top even since his radio program was picked up early 2001 by my local station, when he was mostly entertainment and less commentary (jeopretardy, more-on trivia, etc).
              Why would that naturally translate into political commentary, then? Is that really an appropriate venue for over-the-top behavior, in your opinion? It seems to me that such people shouldn't be interested in shock value.

              Not to put too fine a point on it, but you probably shouldn't link the word "visual" to "radio program".
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        • Author by chin music (October 07, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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          You're correct: beck likes to describe himself as a "rodeo clown". I take great exception to that, however. Although I am decidedly NOT a rodeo fan, the "clowns" of the rodeo are strong, athletic, extremely brave people (usually, maybe always men: not sure about that). These "clowns" routinely risk their own life and limb to protect the fallen rider. As far as I know, they tend not to be pudgy, fat-faced, cynical, mysogenist, racist, hypocritical liars. Maybe some are some of that, and a few may be all of that. But I do personally know a few actual "rodeo clowns" and you, glenn beck, are NO RODEO CLOWN.
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          • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
               
            AMEN! He's a circus clown.
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            • Author by n'est-ce pas (October 08, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
                 
              Meh. It takes a lot of talent and training to be a circus clown, as well. He's a birthday clown. The kind that gets drunk and passes out halfway through his act.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (October 06, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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        Mr. Beck sadly does not represent his church very well. His habit of spewing hate is absolutely antithesis to the belief system of his church and particularly Jesus who had love for all mankind, even the worst sinner. Unfortunately, Mr. Beck even stoops to telling lies in his hate vendettas. He is really to be pitted. Poor, poor hate filled person!
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        • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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          Exactly, that's why I do not understand people who call themselves "conservative Christians" watching this slop.
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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (October 06, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
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      9/12 women don't consider progressive women "real" women, so I think this info will fall on deaf ears.
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    • Author by manofmystique (October 06, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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      They should put the spotlight on this idiot. Show Beck why it's not good to throw stones, especially if you live in a glass house.
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    • Author by PurpleState (October 06, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck is not a sexist.

      He's a sexist towards liberal women.

      Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachmann? Oh, they're okay. No problems with Beck.
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 06, 2009 6:53 pm ET)
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        Glenn-boys 15 minutes are about up.
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        • Author by PurpleState (October 06, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
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          Sadly, your watch is broken.
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        • Author by srichardson (October 06, 2009 8:31 pm ET)
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          I honestly hope that his 15 minutes is almost up. He is poison to the people of this country. It's amazing to me that he made it to where he is today. The miscarrage fiasco is appalling. I wonder how the poor woman reacted on live radio? I also wonder if the cruel SOB bothered to apologize to her? Now is good a time than any. He really needs to come out with a public apology for that cruel, cruel episode.
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      • Author by ready for change (October 07, 2009 9:15 am ET)
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        Sure -- but if you are on the left - Keith Oberman, Rachel Maddow (what a complete joke she is) then Palin and Bachmann are horrible, from their point of view the women on the right are bad, but the women on the left are okay....
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        • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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          HUH? Your comment really makes very little sense.

          My objections to Palin and Bachmann have nothing to do with their phony political ideology, it has to do with their lack of intelligent thought.

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        • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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          How is Maddow a "complete joke"?

          I betcha her IQ is equal to or greater than Palin and Bachman combined.
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          • Author by peace4all (October 07, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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            he sees maddow as a joke because she actually does the research on her stories and therefore comes armed with facts. if the right wing media tried to use facts they would lose all their viewers as none of them would understand anything they said. it would be like speaking in a strange language.
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:23 pm ET)
                 
              Correct. And that all became crystal clear after I read John Dean's book. I keep encouraging the right-wingers/Republicans on this site to read it because it's all about them.
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        • Author by Johaely (October 07, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
             
          You see. There is something different about Maddow. She actually takes responsability for what she says. Yesterday (10/06/09), she actually said at the end of the show that one of her regular panelists(?) said something innacurate. Without BS around it. Palin nor Bachmann have never done an actual public defraction or correction from many of the wrong things they have actually said.
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      • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
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        Simply disagreeing with someone different than you doesn't make you a bigot. If that were the case, the people that disagree with Palin on the left or Michael Steele are bigots.
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        • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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          Ah, but a person's own comments regarding his discomfort around black people and Jews . . . that's pretty telling.

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          • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
               
            So using that logic would you say Reverend Wright's comments are bigoted?

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            • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 2:58 pm ET)
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              Of course Reverend Wright's comments could be construed at bigoted. The difference being that he has a legitimate reason for feeling the way he does. He experienced racism throughout his life. Glenn Beck's only reason for his discomfort around blacks and Jews was he wasn't around them. That's the difference.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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                I see, so Reverend Wright has experienced racism so he's allowed to be a bigot. I've experienced racism from blacks (yes, it is possible), so does that make it ok for me to be a racist?
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                • Author by snoopy (October 07, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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                  You apparently don't understand what bigot means, because wright hasn't shown an utter intolerance to other creeds, beliefs or opinions. And while it doesn't make it OK for you to be a racist, I've noted that hasn't stopped you...
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
                       
                    "The Jews won't let me talk to him" isn't intolerance? I think you got the definition wrong. Also, I haven't given any indication that I'm racist because I can assure you that I'm not.
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                • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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                  I didn't intend to imply that Rev. Wright isn't totally wrong in the things he says. Racism is wrong no matter which race is guilty of it. And I'll admit that Wright's particular brand of bigotry is just as dangerous and detrimental to our country as Glenn Beck's. All I'm saying is that Wright actually has a background that may explain his actions, unlike Beck.
                  How often have you honestly experience racism from blacks? I believe that you've experienced some form of racism, but not to the extreme of blacks in America. I'm not naive, I know racism goes both ways and I think most people have experienced it in one form or another. Just not to the extent of blacks in our country's past.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
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                    I guess starker forgot about those pesky historical things such as "slavery", and "separate but equal".
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                    • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
                         
                      I think they all do. Just like people tend to forget that we practically killed all the Native Americans and took their land. There are a lot of Indians where I live and people (the same ones who don't want healthcare for all but who are "christians") complain and moan about the Indian's getting free healthcare. The right wing wants to talk about people (liberals) wanting something for nothing. In my opinion, the truth of the matter is that they are scared to death that someone else may actually get something that they don't. At least that's what I hear from my Indian bashing friends. They say,"It's not right, I don't get free healthcare." Then they always say, "But that happened a long time age. I didn't do it, my great great grandparents maybe, but not me."
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 11:16 am ET)
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                        I guess we should expect free things from England since they oppressed us back in the day huh? We have every right to complain about people getting something for nothing for something that happened hundreds of years ago. Why should I work hard to earn a living and get a third of my paycheck taken away in taxes when other people get to be lazy and do nothing? I'm sorry, but that's not logical.
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 11:51 am ET)
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                          I am sorry that you are lazy and do nothing and feel that people complain about you. I am also sorry that you feel the need to project that onto others. But, the important thing is - you think we are still a part of England?! That was your analogy to the USA and Native Americans. Surely you understand that Native Americans still live here, right? In America. So, you clearly think with your analogy that we still live under England's rule? Wow.
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
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                            Seriously, how terrible are your reading comprehension skills? Did I say it was me that was lazy? No, I work hard for a living and get my hard-earned money taken away and given to people that don't want to work. *Slaps forehead*. No, I don't think we're part of England, but it's still a sound analogy. People shouldn't get an unfair advantage for something that happened hundreds of years ago.
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                            • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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                              Seriously, Stark, I am sorry that you feel you do not work hard enough to make enough money to be comfortable. It must be hard to maintain any relative happiness when you are always blaming those lazy poor people for your own shortcomings. I only hope you find a way to come to peace with it. I also do not know where you live but apparently there are a lot of people there that don't want to work. That is very rare here in America, and I suspect, once again, that you are poiting your anger and your justification for your failures in the wrong direction. I would suggest more self-reflection and less time blaming what you see as your failures on others.
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                              • Author by starkcr31 (October 09, 2009 10:22 am ET)
                                   
                                I make plenty of money, but it bothers me that a third of it is taken from me and given to people that don't work. That doesn't seem fair to me and Obama wants to make things worse.
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                        • Author by srichardson (October 08, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
                             
                          The US signed a treaty with the Indians and should respect that treaty. I'm a teacher and work my butt off everyday for little pay and even less respect from the public and politicians. The right wing wants to blame every problem in America on public education when in reality without it they wouldn't be where they are today. I get sick of 1/3 of my paycheck going to taxes. But I'd prefer that that 1/3 of my paycheck go to help people in this country!! I believe in biblical values, like taking care of the poor, the widows and especially children. If I have to pay to provide healthcare to some crackhead mom but it also insures that her children get free healthcare, so what! It's God's place to judge the crackhead, it's my place to help the children. I do not want something for nothing but I'd rather make sure all the children and elderly are well taken care of then worry that someone might get free healthcare when they are lazy.
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                          • Author by diamonds (October 09, 2009 12:02 am ET)
                               
                            Great for helping people, I am all for private charity, but the important point you miss is government is coercive. You are forced to pay taxes by the threat of violence. Explain how that is consistent with the teachings of, well, any religion at all?

                            And with government spending the money, what incentive is there to spend it wisely? By and large people don't care what goes on in Washington. They do care that, if they send money to a charity, it does a maximum amount of good, however. Even private companies are more humane (Medicare rejects twice the number of insurance claims as private companies do, while approving ones to dead doctors and patients!)
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                            • Author by Brabantio (October 09, 2009 1:34 am ET)
                                 
                              Ronald Reagan said that he believed in tithing, giving a tenth of one's income to charity. He gave around 1.5%, if I recall correctly.

                              This is the problem, which I like to call the "coffee-kitty effect". If you set up a system where people are supposed to pay a quarter for a cup of coffee in your office, you will not get a quarter for every cup of coffee. Many people will look at the quarters already in the kitty and think "I can just claim I put one of those in there, and nobody can prove that I'm lying". Likewise, reliance on private charity would lead to hearing "I don't know why the funding is so short, I gave ten percent of my income to charity last year!" from everyone up and down the street.

                              A civilization where people voluntarily give enough to provide the support needed is a nice thought, but when it fails to come true then real people die. If people could really look past their greed and selfishness on a societal scale, then anarchy would work, as would communism. Just like a reliance on private charity, both systems are great concepts on paper, but don't hold up when taking human nature into account.

                              Also, I'm not entirely sure that the statistic you cite really proves "more humane" behavior.
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                            • Author by srichardson (October 09, 2009 10:34 am ET)
                                 
                              Biblically Jesus told his followers to give to Ceasor what was Ceasor's so taxes are not so unbiblical.
                              As far as private charities go, many are corrupt. Look how many end up in the news bc they've misappropriated funds! I know there are good charities out there but people don't give as much as they used to because of corruption.
                              I do agree that our government does not spend our money wisely. Right now the democrats are trying to use our tax money to help our own people and the republicans are stopping it by lying about the healthcare bill. Republicans put pork spending in almost every bill that is passed that would benefit the people of this country.
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        • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
             
          You can disagree with a woman without calling her derogatory names.

          You can also have a debate with a woman without making sexually suggestive comments.

          Also, does Beck just "disagree" with a woman for having a miscarriage?
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    • Author by draftedin68 (October 06, 2009 6:58 pm ET)
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      Shocking, I say! Shocking!

      A Mormon man who repeatedly denigrates women?

      Why, it just can't be!
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      • Author by mewi (October 06, 2009 8:10 pm ET)
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        Let us not make such rash generalizations that offend other people's marriages that are not "denigrating women" and just happen to be mormon.

        And is Beck even mormon? o.o

        I have a dislike for the mormon leaders who campaigned for Proposition H8 but I'd like to avoid blaming all the mormons, I'd rather blame the establishment surrounding mormonism rather than the general ( possibly innocent ) population of people that are part of it.
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        • Author by PurpleState (October 08, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
             
          Beck is a follower of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
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      • Author by sasami (October 06, 2009 8:21 pm ET)
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        That's the kind of bigoted statement I'd expect from the right. Watch your generalizations.
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        • Author by draftedin68 (October 06, 2009 9:45 pm ET)
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          I do watch.

          Along with many other women, my sister left the LDS cult because my "generalizations" were so counter-Christian to her.

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          • Author by my4cents (October 06, 2009 9:55 pm ET)
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            And so do I.
            Beck is a bigot and racist and a cheap shot trying to make money on freedom of speech.
            No generalizations observed.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
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              Yeah, how dare he disagree with the liberals. That clearly makes him a racist, a sexist and pretty much everything else-ist. There's no evidence to back it up, but since when do liberals need that pesky evidence?
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              • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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                Actually, Beck's own comments about being "uncomfortable" around black people and Jewish people pretty much says it all. He says he doesn't have any black friends because he would say something that would bother them. He's a racist and his comments show it.

                Most thinking people realize that.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
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                  That doesn't mean he's a racist. He has a point. Everyone is so freaking Politically Correct now that white people are scared because 90% of what comes out of their mouths is taken as racist even when it's it's not. That's the point. According to liberals, if you disagree with Obama, it could only be because he's black. There's no other possible reason. It's ridiculous.
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                  • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
                       
                    This post specifically deals with Beck's sexism.

                    As I pointed out earlier, you can disagree with a woman without calling her derogatory names.

                    You can also have a conversation and/or debate with a woman without making sexually suggestive comments.

                    So this is, obviously, not just about the fact that Beck happens to disagree with a woman.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
                         
                      I was responding to Binx and his/her comment about racism. I wasn't talking about sexism in that post.
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                      • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
                           
                        Yes, but you have yet to respond to the actual content of this post, which is about Beck's demonstrated sexism.

                        So, what I'm trying to establish here is, don't you agree that it is possible to disagree with a woman without calling her derogatory names and that is possible to debate a woman without making sexually suggestive comments?

                        The position you appear to be coming from is that somehow MMfA is just attacking Beck for disagreeing with someone, which is not at all the situation. MMfA is criticizing the way in which Beck has repeatedly demeaned and denigrated the women he disagrees with.
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                  • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:10 pm ET)
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                    That in and of itself is probably a bit of a racist remark. If you are truly not a racist, you're not going to be worried about what comes out of your mouth. I grew up in a very small town and never even saw a black person until my early teens. Even so, my mom always taught me everyone was the same no matter what their skin color. I'm in no way uncomfortable around minorities and if I do happen to say something that may be taken as racist, I'll call myself on it and explain what I actually meant. If you're worried about people thinking your words are racist, you just might be worried for a legitimate reason. And 99.9% of liberals do not think if you disagree with Obama you are racist. If people honestly disagreed with his policies it would be different. Instead, their speech is filled with such vile hatred that there seems to be no other explanation. The birthers are a perfect example of this.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
                         
                      There's a good example of what I'm talking about. I say I worry that people are going take what I'm saying as racist and you call that a racist remark. If I was a racist I wouldn't care if people thought that. 99.9%? Are you kidding me? All I ever hear from Obama supporters is that you must be racist if you disagree with him. What "hate speech" have you heard? I'm honestly curious.
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                      • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
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                        What I said was your remark was racist. I don't know you so how could I possibly make that judgement?
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                        • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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                          You are clearly one of these people that throws "racist" at everyone they disagree with. It's a strategy that many liberals use. My comment was not racist at all. I'd like you to explain to me how it was.
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                          • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
                               
                            You are wasting your time with Stark. What he means when he says that Beck's own comments about being "uncomfortable" around black people and Jewish people "has a point" what he is one AGAIN demonstrating to us is his belief that all racists are minorities and no white people are. He will defend any racist, race-baiting statement by Limbaugh and Beck, etc. But, he will immediately attack Gates, Obama, Sotomayor, Van Jones, or any other minority for any comments that he believes he can construe to be racist.

                            We can all read now where Stark states "white people are scared because 90% of what comes out of their mouths is taken as racist even when it's it's not" or "You are clearly one of these people that throws "racist" at everyone they disagree with. It's a strategy that many liberals use." However, when I called him on explaining to me what statements of Van Jones made him a racist who hates America (two names that Stark commonly uses when referencing Van Jones) all he could give me was a statement Van Jones once made comparing inner-city violence to suburban violence where he used the words "white kids" and "black kids". Stark uses this as an example of Van Jones' racism.

                            So, clearly pulling the gun out of the racism holster a little quick is never an issue with Stark when it comes to minorities, only when it comes to those poor persecuted Fox News and hate radio hosts. It is important the we make note of this each time the right attempts it. It has clearly become a strategy on the right since the election of Obama to call anyone of color a racist any chance they get while screaming persecution at the top of their lungs anytime they are even suggested at being race-baiters or racists.
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                          • Author by srichardson (October 08, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
                               
                            starker31 - You are clearly wrong about me. I just told you that I live in the south and racism is everywhere. I'm not an idiot! If people honestly disagree with Obama's policies it is clear in the way they intelligently argue their point. When people gripe and moan bc they say he was born in Kenya or call him a socialist, or put a Hitler mustache on him, that is when it is no longer about his policies but about him personally. People may not be racist but they HATE him with a passion that I've never seen before. It's just wrong to disrepect the President in the way these people are disrepecting Obama. Don't accuse me of throwing racist around when you haven't even read enough of my posts to know what you are talking about. I'm just as disgusted when people throw that out anytime someone disagrees with Obama but I'm also intelligent and open eyed enough to see the fact that racism does play a role in some of the hatred that is going around now.
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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:16 pm ET)
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                      Another classic example is the crying teabaggin' woman who said she wants her country back.

                      Or the other crying teabaggin' woman who said this isn't the country she remembers.

                      Some people just can't tolerate the black man being in the white house. And the majority of those people just happen to be Republicans.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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                        Gee, it's not possible that they meant they want their country back from heading towards Socialism? Just maybe? Does it ALWAYS have to be about race with you people?
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                        • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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                          They uttered those remarks after Obama was in office for 6 MONTHS.

                          They obviously liked their country just fine when the christian white man was sitting in the White House and we were heading down that evil path toward socialism. (And, by the way, no matter how many times you may claim it, NOTHING Obama has done is socialist).

                          Does it always have to be IDIOCY with you people?
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
                               
                            I don't know why those people said those things. There are MANY things those statements could mean, but it's idiotic to just assume that it's because he's black. Trust me, there a ton of reasons to disagree with the guy.
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                        • Author by Ruby (October 07, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
                             
                          I think that most reasonable people would acknowledge the fact that there are people in this country who have, on some level, a very real fear of the fact that we now have a black president. But even these people, at least a portion of them, recognize that this is an irrational fear (or at least recognize that they probably shouldn't say that out loud). So these hyperbolic, over-the-top accusations of communism, socialism, nazism, Obama wanting to destroy America, etc., allow these people a way in which to justify a fear that they already have.

                          And I think one of the major things that has led people to make this conclusion is that many of the people that have injected themselves publically into the debate (such as the tea party protesters and 9/12 protesters) have really demonstrated that they don't have much comprehensive knowledge or understanding of the issues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y), which indicates that they may be reacting on a more primal level. I mean, does anyone really even know what the message of the 9/12 protest was? What exactly were they protesting? And what possible political message could a protester be making with a sign depicting Obama as a witch doctor with a bone through his nose, who is also somehow a communist? Or a poster bearing the message, "What's the difference between The White House and the Cleveland Zoo? The Zoo has an African Lion and the White House has a Lyin' African". I mean, what political statement, exactly, is that making? What, specifically, is it protesting? It's not protesting the president's stance on any particular issue; it's simply protesting the president, and possibly the fact that he is "African".
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                        • Author by benjr (October 07, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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                          Again though, this argument doesn't hold water. You can't want to take your country back when the MAJORITY of voters put Pres. Obama in office. As far as the "heading towards socialism" crap, that's just plain wrong. When people who identified themselves as liberals or Democrats disagreed with Bush's policies, there was no of that "I want my country back" nonsense. There were some personal attacks against Bush and Cheney, but most of the criticism I heard was directed towards the POLICIES of the Bush administration, not trying to de-legitimize him. I agree that not all of the criticism of Pres. Obama is racist, but some of it is. By the way, you going to try to say that the posters at the 9/12 rally of Obama as witch docter weren't racist?
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                          • Author by craig98607271 (October 07, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
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                            whoa, i guess you didn't see the names called to bush, hangings and CONSTANT name calling. you all say ALL the repugs are racist because you saw some idiots 9/12ers but when the libs call the names that was "only a few". i am not epublican but in the war of hypocrites the libs win easy.
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                            • Author by benjr (October 07, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
                                 
                              you all say ALL the repugs are racist

                              No, what I actually said was "I agree that not all of the criticism of Pres. Obama is racist, but some of it is."
                              Please read my post before responding.
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        • Author by my4cents (October 06, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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          Take a look at our President and think about what he has not been generalized of.
          Can you find a fault with a common person generalizing Beck with his supposed faith, after what he has been doing?
          As the saying goes, you reap what you sow. Not you, but you get the drift.
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        • Author by Brabantio (October 06, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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          The mother of my best friend in my LDS church days was excommunicated for espousing feminism. It wasn't a family of casual Mormons either, so it's not like it was an excuse to weed out the less-devout. Being Mormon doesn't make someone sexist, but I would argue that there's still a tangible element of that within that faith.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (October 07, 2009 7:28 am ET)
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          Do people of LDS consider Beck to be "normal"?
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          • Author by lunapollo (October 09, 2009 2:04 am ET)
               
            I would like to say no but as I am LDS, I see a lot of my fellow church members following him-- including the majority of my family members. See, we Mormons are a very loyal group and as soon as we find out one of ours is in a position of fame or power (the Osmonds, Mitt Romney, Glenn Beck, etc.) we typically break our backs to support them.

            I can't stand Glenn Beck and have a hard time finding a place in my religion with my progressive views, although I find the church doctrine to be inline with my personal world-view. Sometimes the culture and the doctrine don't mesh. Glenn Beck is a terrible example of Mormonism.
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    • Author by mewi (October 06, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
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      "Dina, I've got some time and a camera. Why don't you stop by?" Sansing did not respond and, after several seconds of silence, Beck stated: "No? OK."

      Wow just wow... if I didn't already hate him before, I'd of hated him for that one paragraph. But now since I already hated him before I hate him more now... ( and yes hate is a strong word and I don't think anyone can argue that he doesn't deserve such harsh words... )

      and that miscarriage thing... seriously? Where are the ethics... where is that self proclaimed religious morality?... These guys are like internet trolls, no ethics, no integrity... just plain flat out barbarism. Oh wait... I don't want to insult the barbarians... Beck is worse... seriously :/

      ~Celeste~
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    • Author by bidog (October 06, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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      Can someone please explain to me, how so many so called pro-Americans promote people i.e Beck,Limbo and Hannity that have taken so much from America and given back so little. Not one has been in military or had a child that has been in or going into military, not one held or ran for public office but yet these are the people some choose to follow.

      You would think, how they preach on tv how much they love America that they would actually have done something to defend her.
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    • Author by noneyabidnis (October 06, 2009 8:12 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck asks that you please stop looking at his past.
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      • Author by scott123 (October 07, 2009 12:25 am ET)
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        So does obama
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        • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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          Really? I guess that's why he wrote two books about his past . . . the man has been a state legislator, a Senator and is now the President. You REALLY think his past is secret? Boy, you've got it bad.
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        • Author by historygeek001 (October 07, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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          Scott123: are you proud to show off your lack of any kind of connection to reality? Obama has been OPEN about his past.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (October 07, 2009 7:24 am ET)
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        Because, ahhh...he's really comfortable with his past? ;>)
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      • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
           
        Beck is afraid that if his past is looked into, all the lies he's told on the radio and television about his past will be exposed.
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    • Author by spooky3 (October 06, 2009 8:16 pm ET)
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      If Steinem really hated Beck and his ilk, who could blame her? And the reality is, she is far more even-handed in treatment of idiots like him than they are of her. Which makes her point nicely.
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    • Author by DaDaMan (October 06, 2009 10:17 pm ET)
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      "Sexist comments" These rightwing whackos, all they do is talk. For real hardcore sexism, it's leftwing whackos like Letterman who walk the walk.
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    • Author by mary59 (October 06, 2009 10:56 pm ET)
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      Those moms certainly have strange priorities. Their #1 principle: America is "good."

      If I recall, there is none good but God...according to Rabbi Jesus and the first Commandment. Then they go on with their I'll give stuff I earned to people if I feel like it. Government hands off, etc. which is also quite unbiblical in its stance.

      Ignoring religious principles, saying "America is good" is like saying "China is good." It's cartoonish.
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    • Author by diamonds (October 06, 2009 11:23 pm ET)
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      That's it? You can only find name calling? Half of them don't even have any grounds for sexism, unless you define it to mean "I noticed you are of <X> sex." Over three thousand hours of broadcast time? I think there are more important things to focus on than an episode featuring almost exclusively mothers (as if that is somehow "sexist").
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      • Author by vysotsky (October 07, 2009 5:22 am ET)
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        Just out of curiosity, which of these remarks struck you as innocuous as "I noticed you are of <X> sex"? (And by the way, that's a pretty creepy thing to say out of the blue in many contexts, and especially if you're a professional broadcaster.)

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        • Author by diamonds (October 08, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
             
          Of course it looks like it is out of the blue when you are taking individual sound bytes out of context. Let's listen to the context and judge for ourselves, how about that?
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          • Author by vysotsky (October 09, 2009 6:57 am ET)
               
            Gladly. Again, which of these remarks -- in proper context -- struck you as nothing more than a neutral observance of one's gender? (And you seem to have missed my point: saying "I noticed you are of <X> sex" is not necessarily sexist, but it certainly might be in many contexts. So yes, by all means, let's discuss the context. I just want to know specifically which of Beck's comments highlighted above struck you as gender neutral.)
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    • Author by donwelty (October 07, 2009 12:41 am ET)
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      Beck has made sexist comments. He voluntarily joined a sexist religion. He is saying that a lot of women are connecting to his rants. Has he forgotten or is he totally oblivious to the nature of his rants. If there were a prize for the most outrageous loon/idiot my vote would be to give it to Beck.
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    • Author by VictoriaPhantasmagoria (October 07, 2009 4:31 am ET)
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      My own mother is one of those women who's become devoted to Beck.
      To say it's caused a rent in the family is an understatement.
      I think she's being easily led. She on the other hand, thinks I'm Evil Incarnate. And I've held the same political views I've had since I was a teen. She didn't think I was an especially bad person until Beck came along.
      I can't figure out why she chose him to follow, of all people, but for some reason, she thinks he's got her best interests at heart. Maybe something similar is going on with these other women, I don't know.
      But personally, it's been like watching someone join a cult.
      It's depressing and disturbing.
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      • Author by mary59 (October 07, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
           
        This must be very hard. I don't know why any sane person would embrace Beck as a spokesperson. He's nasty, shrill and ignorant. But persistent. Perhaps you could give your mom the link to what Beck did to the woman who had just suffered a miscarriage?

        If she's unmoved by that I don't know what to say.
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      • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
           
        When I argue (debate) those around me who like and listen to Beck, those who wholeheartedly believe his word to be gold, it's like talking to a wall. They do not hear a word you say and there only comments are, "You're wrong, Beck's right!" So, listening to these people, I can not imagine what it must feel like to argue those same issues with your mother. Hang in there. Abe Lincoln said it best, "No man has a good enough memory to make a successful liar." Sooner or later the lies will catch up with him.
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      • Author by lunapollo (October 09, 2009 2:29 am ET)
           
        I am in the same boat with both of my parents and most of my grown siblings. Because of their zealotry, I've had to limit my exposure to them. Very sad...
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    • Author by terrapin53 (October 07, 2009 10:25 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck is the little boy all moms are glad they did not have, but feel sorry for the moms who did have them.
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    • Author by gs-425 (October 07, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
         
      Boo hoo hooo waaaa waaaaaa
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    • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:18 pm ET)
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      The left's obsession with Glenn Beck is actually pretty hilarious. I just shows how much he frightens them.
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      • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 2:23 pm ET)
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        Beck frightens most thinking people . . . real conservatives [unlike you], liberals and the overwhelming moderate majority.

        If you find this man's insanity and lies hilarious, it's very telling about what kind of person you are. That's sad.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
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          If he didn't intimidate you, you would bother being obsessed with him. You don't see conservatives being obsessed with the likes of Olbermann and Maddow do you? Why? Because they are irrelevant, that's why. Beck frightens you because people actually listen to him, unlike your heroes. By the way, if you actually had any reading comprehension skills (which you clearly don't), you would understand that I don't find Beck hilarious, I find your obsession with him hilarious. I just thought I'd clear that up.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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            The "obsession" with Beck is because he's dangerous, always talking in paranoid code words about fictional government takeovers, evil imaginary government conspiracies, and the improbable "burning of the reichstag" moments that are just over the horizon.

            Some people take him seriously, and those are the people I'm scared of. You know, like the guy who took O'Reilly seriously when he said "something" had to be done about Dr. Tiller, the baby killer. Or the guy who took Goldberg seriously about the 100 people who are ruining America and then went and shot up a church because he wanted to kill Democrats.

            That's what's scary about Beck.
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          • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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            Maybe because Olbermann and Maddow don't lie through their teeth and do their very best to destroy the President. And I know, they wouldn't want to destroy a liberal pres but they also didn't try to destroy George Bush when he was in office.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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              Beck doesn't need to destroy the president. He's doing an excellent job of destroying himself.
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              • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
                   
                I'm not going to argue that point with you. I'm assuming you are not a big Glenn Beck fan?
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                • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
                     
                  I'm not a fan, no, but I meant the president is destroying himself.
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                  • Author by srichardson (October 07, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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                    I got that. My argument against Glenn Beck is that he is a liar. I think he plays a role that is dangerous and he most likely knows it and continues to do it for a huge paycheck. What he is spewing is dangerous for our country. The amount of discourse and hatred between the two parties now is something I have never seen before. That may be bc I've only followed politics for the last 12 years but I just feel like it's time we stopped actually hating each other and just tried to argue the differences in our politics. This craziness that is going on now is a horrible example to set for our kids. Hopefully they will look at us and what to do better for our country and learn to work together and not apart.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 10:34 am ET)
                         
                      He gives his opinion. He's no more a liar than Olbermann or Maddow. The only difference is no one watches those two. Let's stop hating each other? Maybe the liberals should have done that during the Bush years.
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                      • Author by srichardson (October 08, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
                           
                        Me personally, I never bashed Bush. I do honestly believe he did the best job he could and he believed he was doing what was right.
                        About Olbermann and Maddow, convince me they are liars. I'm open to anything you can tell me they lied about. I'd like you to give me a few examples so I can research them myself. If you show me they lied, kudos to you.
                        And gs-425 - Glenn Beck edits his videos to make the people he is talking about look worse than they are. I'm not even going to address you because obviously there is nothing I could say to convince you that Glenn Beck is a fear mongering entertainer.
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                    • Author by gs-425 (October 08, 2009 10:55 am ET)
                         
                      What 'lies' are you talking about. As far as I know, he presents his evidence for every claim he makes. That evidence comes from video, interviews, or statements from the party in question.

                      What lies??
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              • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
                   
                Guess you haven't seen the latest poll numbers have you? See, most people who live in the real world and not in the false world of Fox and hate talk radio don't share your opinions. That would be at least 90% of the American population.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
                     
                  If you're trying to suggest Obama has a 90% approval rating, all I can do is laugh at you. It's in the 40s and falling.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
                       
                    Liar. Latest poll is 56% up from 50%.

                    Try again.
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                  • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
                       
                    No, I was speaking of the 90% of the population who DON'T live in the world of Fox and hate radio. See most of us live in the real world and see what is actually going on around us without the false filter of Fox and hate talk radio.

                    And, you are incorrect about the latest poll numbers . . . the AP numbers were at 56% approval today, an uptick of 6% since September. Now, of course, if you are referring to the discredited and unreliable Rasmussen poll, you are probably correct. Rasmussen is so far off of the average that it is considered an "outlier."
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (October 08, 2009 10:37 am ET)
                         
                      That's funny. I guess Fox and talk radio must get their ratings from all their extraterrestrial listeners because according to you 90% doesn't watch or listen to those. First of all, every poll is biased and second of all even 56% is terrible this soon into an administration.
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                      • Author by Johaely (October 08, 2009 6:08 pm ET)
                           
                        That's actually sooooo true. Since every poll is so biased, its automatically disqualified, right? How do you even know if its biased and what does that matter.

                        Accusations of bias is a common trick for someone losing an argument, or with a victim mentality or both.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
                   
                "Beck doesn't need to destroy the president. He's doing an excellent job of destroying himself." - Stark

                I will bet anyone $1000 that Stark does not realize he just said that Beck is destroying himself. Anyone?
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            • Author by craig98607271 (October 07, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
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              really, didn't try to destroy bush? try EVERY program olbermann has done. Every one.
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          • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
               
            I'm neither intimidated nor obsessed with him. I just find his false and hyperbolic rhetoric dangerous. Not because of him, he's an uneducated, overpaid clown . . . it's people like you who BELIEVE him who are frightening. You are too stupid to look up any of the nonsense he spews.

            And you are right, I don't see conservatives obsessed with Olbermann and Maddow because most conservatives [real ones, not Foxbots like you] don't care about any of the opinion networks. They are intelligent enough to understand the difference between NEWS and OPINION, which apparently, based upon the drivel you post here all the time, you are not. As for Olbermann and Maddow "being my heroes," where do you get that from? They are entertainers just like Beck.

            Just thought I'd clear that up.

            BTW, have you ever checked into those classes I recommended for you? They would do WONDERS for your ability to carry on intelligent conversations with regard to political ideology and the Constitution. Just saying!
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            • Author by starkcr31 (October 07, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
                 
              I'll tell you what, I'll go take those classes when you get your FIRST degree. Deal?
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              • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
                   
                Don't worry about my education . . . I've got more than enough. I'm just worried about you. You seem to have such a hard time keeping up with the discussions.
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          • Author by sleepy joe (October 07, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
               
            Conservatives aren't obsessed with Olbermann and Maddow because they don't make the kind of outrageous , unfounded claims that Beck makes.

            I noticed the cons on this site always make the same statements: liberals are afraid of Beck; Beck has the highest ratings. But they don't dare defend stuff like the miscarriage taunt.

            I guess all is fair when you believe you are infallible.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 08, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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              I'll give Stark and Craig and gs425 the benefit of the doubt. I will assume that in their defense of Beck is the belief that they wholly support the idea of taunting a woman who just had a miscarriage. I am sure that in all their posts on this thread they have simply failed to mention it. Clearly, in their rabid defense of him they believe he is an honest purveyor of "news" so that defense, I assume, includes taunting a woman who just had a miscarriage. I mean, if that was so wrong then why are his ratings so high? Why are Obama's approval ratings (56%) so low? What about Olbermann and Maddow? What, what, what...? Pathetic.
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    • Author by mewi (October 07, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
         
      Okay this article is lacking something... I think it should include video proof of Beck's sexist statements ^^
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    • Author by packerbacker (October 07, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
         
      I have been getting information from right wing nut job world. Some of the stuff would come as no surprise to most smart people, but it is scary to say the least. When Beck lovers send info to one another they send it with a tag line that they are at war. These pieces of garbage will say anything and do anything, just remember when your talking to right wing nuts, logical statements and facts are not important to any of them. They believe what they believe. I know I come off as a zealot writing this, but wow I just get angry at the mean and horrible things toilet sharks like Beck will say about people that disagree with him. Glenn you will lose your Jesus Jammies if you keep this up!
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    • Author by forrestfrench4466 (October 07, 2009 6:02 pm ET)
         
      With all the talk about Beck's religion, I understand the LDS Church did send a monitor to his "Keys of the City" speech in Mount Vernon, WA, last month. Salt Lake City is very aware of Beck's outrageous comments. Obviously, in his mind (what?), material riches trump faith.
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    • Author by rikntx (October 07, 2009 6:08 pm ET)
         
      I have been watching and listening to Beck quite a bit recently, and I have come away having concerns for the man's mental health. Seriously, I expect him to one day start telling us about the stolen strawberries.
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