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Sports media gang-tackle Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

October 07, 2009 3:51 pm ET — 67 Comments

On October 6, Rush Limbaugh released a statement confirming that he and St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts "have made a bid to buy the [NFL's St. Louis] Rams and are continuing the process." In response, numerous sports journalists and figures -- including contributors to ESPN, where Limbaugh was briefly employed -- have criticized the idea of Limbaugh as an owner, often noting Limbaugh's history of racially incendiary remarks.

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Limbaugh makes bid for Rams

From an October 6 Los Angeles Times blog post:

In a statement released today, Limbaugh said he's partnering with St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts in a bid to buy the St. Louis Rams. Limbaugh didn't go into details, but said he and Checketts "have made a bid to buy the Rams and are continuing the process."

It's unclear whether Limbaugh and Checketts will try to buy the team outright or purchase a majority or minority stake in it. Georgia Frontiere's children own a 60% stake in the team, and billionaire Stan Kroenke owns a 40% stake.

Sports journalists and figures blast idea of Limbaugh as NFL owner

CBSSports.com's Freeman: "My head exploded after hearing this Limbaugh news. ... Limbaugh is a pungent bowl of stark raving bigoted lunacy." In his October 7 column, CBSSports.com national columnist Mike Freeman wrote that his "head exploded after hearing this Limbaugh news," adding that Limbaugh as an owner would "undermine everything the NFL has worked decades to accomplish" with regard to racial diversity:

Limbaugh is a pungent bowl of stark raving bigoted lunacy. He'd be a dream to cover. But for the NFL, Limbaugh as an owner would be as comfortable as a colonoscopy with a periscope. It'd be one of the great nightmares for the sport.

The league has made significant strides in putting its horrid racial past behind it. The NFL isn't perfect on the issues of ethnicity but it tries.

Allowing Limbaugh, who plays the song "Barack the Magic Negro" on his radio show, a seat at the owner's table would instantly undermine everything the NFL has worked decades to accomplish.

WashingtonPost.com's McCardell: "Limbaugh would definitely hurt" the Rams, "the way he talks makes me think he's a racist." In an October 7 post on WashingtonPost.com, former NFL receiver Keenan McCardell wrote that "Limbaugh would definitely hurt the St. Louis Rams if he bought the team. I can only judge what he says on the radio -- but the way he talks makes me think he's a racist." McCardell added:

The NFL is a dominant black league and it's tough to say that a guy who speaks his mind as much as he does with a locker room that's 60% minority would get players' respect. If I were a free agent it would be really hard for me to want to play for him. He'd have to show me that he's a different person. The coach would also have to convince me that this was about football and not politics.

All the players would remember what he said about Donovan McNabb -- what got him fired from ESPN. It's a crazy thing, but it's hard to change what you said once you said it -- hard to get guys to forget and trust again. Sometimes your words speak louder than what you're trying to do.

WashingtonPost.com's Oben: "I'm not sure what's lower: Rush Limbaugh's approval rating in the African American community or JaMarcus Russel's [sic] passer rating." In an October 7 post on WashingtonPost.com, former NFL offensive lineman Roman Oben wrote that "I thought it could not be worse for the St. Louis Rams than being 0-4; I was wrong ... I'm not sure what's lower: Rush Limbaugh's approval rating in the African American community or JaMarcus Russel's passer rating." From Oben's post:

I'm not sure what's lower: Rush Limbaugh's approval rating in the African American community or JaMarcus Russel's passer rating. But in a league of professional athletes who are mostly African American and come from humble backgrounds, a Limbaugh-owned Rams team would neither elicit the warmest reception by the players in the locker room, nor would it attract the free agent who is weighing options on his NFL future.

Anyone who has made a living bashing political leaders and their policies by vicious and unethical personal attacks, accused actor Michael J Fox of "exaggerating the effects of Parkinson's disease," made racially-charged comments about Donovan McNabb's ability as a black quarterback and hypocritically called for harsher punishment for minorities charged with low level drug crimes while himself being criminally addicted to oxycontin for many years, does not represent the honor, integrity and dignity for which the NFL shield is supposed to represent.

Character is a constant point of emphasis for NFL and team officials when it comes to the players; potential owners should be held to the same level of scrutiny and accountability.

Black Sports Online's Littal: "Is this the person you want to be a face of the franchise?" Black Sports Online's Robert Littal wrote in an October 7 post on WashingtonPost.com that "the quality that has afforded Limbaugh the financial assets to be an NFL owner is the same quality that should make it a no brainer why he shouldn't be allowed in the league." Littal added:

Rush Limbaugh is an egomaniac who can't help himself when it comes to making conversational statements. There is no way that he would be a "silent" owner.

Limbaugh couldn't last on ESPN for three weeks before offending his co-workers and the league with his comments about the media wanting Donovan McNabb to succeed because he is black.

Is this the person you want to be a face of the franchise?

Even if you believe, like I do, that Limbaugh is just a "blowhard" it doesn't change the fact his comments can be very insensitive to the public as a whole.

[NFL commissioner] Roger Goodell claims that one of his major concerns with the NFL is its image. If that is the case there is no way Rush Limbaugh should be allowed in league.

Post-Dispatch's Burwell: "Limbaugh's American Dream is a potential nightmare waiting to happen for the Rams." In an October 7 column, St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Bryan Burwell wrote that "[t]hough I think it is his right to take a shot at becoming part of a new Rams ownership group, Limbaugh's American Dream is a potential nightmare waiting to happen for the Rams, the city and the National Football League." From Burwell's column:

But inside the locker rooms of the NFL, where the overwhelming majority of the players are descendants of slaves, Limbaugh's ignorant ramblings resonate with entirely different emotions.

His money might be green, but his words are colored with hate and intolerance. Bringing Limbaugh back into the NFL family will ultimately be met with the same disastrous effects from the last time it was tried.

Remember the failed experiment with the ESPN NFL pregame show?

Remember the seething anger and pained expression on the face of ESPN analyst Tom Jackson when he tried to express his feelings about what Limbaugh had said in the aftermath of the notorious Donovan McNabb disaster?

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But even if he fit in with his politics, let's hope he doesn't fit in with his polarizing, racist demagoguery. And yes, that is exactly what it is, no matter how many of his blindly loyal supporters want to put the "politically incorrect" party dress on it.

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

Again, those are his words.

ESPN's Blackistone: "We can't have Rush Limbaugh in the NFL. He had his chance and he ruined it." During the October 6 edition of ESPN's Around the Horn, ESPN's Kevin Blackistone said: "Well, the buck's got to stop here with political ownership and teams. We can't have this. Who's next? Glenn Beck's going to want a team? James Carville's going to want a team? You got to nip this thing in the bud. We can't have Rush Limbaugh in the NFL. He had his chance, and he ruined it." ESPN contributor and Denver Post columnist Woody Paige, however, said Limbaugh would be a good owner because "I want an ultraconservative defense out of St. Louis."

ESPN's Cowherd: "[B]ad idea ... you want a low-profile guy running the club." During the October 6 edition of ESPN2's SportsNation, co-host Colin Cowherd said that Limbaugh being an owner is a "bad idea" because for "the fans over time, you want a low-profile guy running the club." Cowherd added: "Rush Limbaugh is a lot of things. Low profile is not one of them. Let's talk about high-profile NFL owners. Dan Snyder, Redskins -- Dumpster fire. Jerry Jones, Cowboys -- right now, underachieving mess. Al Davis, Raiders -- enough said." Co-host Michelle Beadle responded: "I'll just say good but I kind of want [a] maybe [option]." Beadle also said that the show's unscientific poll of viewers found that 56 percent of respondents thought Limbaugh being an owner is a bad idea.

Deadspin.com's Bennett: "Horrible Person Wants To Buy Horrible Team." On October 6, Deadspin.com senior editor Dashiell Bennett wrote a post headlined, "Horrible Person Wants To Buy Horrible Team." Bennett wrote: "Professional blowhard Rush Limbaugh is aiming to become a part-owner of the St. Louis Rams. I guess the team won't be drafting any black quarterbacks from now on. (But at least they'll play pain-free!)"

Yahoo! Sports' Darnell: Limbaugh's "very presence brings politics into the football," he is "so polarizing." In an October 6 post on Yahoo! Sports' Shutdown Corner blog, editor Matthew J. Darnell wrote: "Here's why I don't like the idea: I have my opinion on Rush Limbaugh, and, as we're all about to witness in the comments, everyone else has their opinions on Rush Limbaugh, too. His very presence brings politics into the football discussion. I'd prefer to avoid that, but the man is so polarizing that I don't see any way around it. I couldn't get through the first sentence of this post without a little jab." 

Review-Journal says, "If the Rams' present is dim, the future could be more dismal," cites Limbaugh's "history of racially insensitive comments." On October 7, the Las Vegas Review-Journal's sports page wrote: "Los Angeles should be thankful the Rams left for St. Louis 15 years ago. And it has nothing to do with their NFL-worst 14-game losing streak and 5-31 record since 2007. If the Rams' present is dim, the future could be more dismal. Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said in a prepared statement Tuesday that he and St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts have made a bid to buy the Rams ... Could Limbaugh's history of racially insensitive comments prove to be an impediment to luring minority free agents to the Rams?"

Transcripts

From the October 6 edition of ESPN2's SportsNation:

BEADLE: Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh says he's teaming up with St. Louis Blues hockey owner Dave Checketts in a bid to buy the St. Louis rams. By NFL rules, the group would have no other choice but to keep the team in St. Louis because of its ties to the Blues. Now, that's good news for fans who love their Rams, but do they love Limbaugh attached to their team? Some people love him, some people not so much. So we asked SportsNation, is Rush Limbaugh and Dave Checketts owning a team good or bad?

COWHERD: A bad idea to me, although they can't get worse. I like low-profile owners. Rush Limbaugh is a lot of things. Low profile is not one of them. Let's talk about high-profile NFL owners. Dan Snyder, Redskins -- Dumpster fire. Jerry Jones, Cowboys -- right now, underachieving mess. Al Davis, Raiders -- enough said. By the way, great franchise, Ravens. Who owns them? Great franchise, Giants. Could you pick their owner out of a group of people? The teams that are great, owners stay low-key.

BEADLE: I mean, you know, say what you will about Rush Limbaugh, it's smart teaming up with Dave Checketts. This guy obviously knows what he's doing. He ran the Utah Jazz, he ran the Knicks --

COWHERD: Yes.

BEADLE: -- owns the Blues. That part is smart. Politics and sports, they somehow always seem to find a way. Remember when the Red Sox were gunning for the World Series, a lot of management, a lot of executives were footing it behind John Kerry, and then you had [former pitcher] Curt Schilling who was very vocal for Bush. So if Limbaugh does -- just stays quietly and just takes in the money --

COWHERD: That'd be great.

BEADLE: -- but being a NFL owner? Then it's not such a --

COWHERD: It's a great investment for Rush. The team is awful. He's buying a great asset, the NFL, at a low point. For Rush, it's a great buy. For the fans over time, you want a low-profile guy running the club.

BEADLE: So we asked SportsNation, is Rush Limbaugh and Dave Checketts owning a team good or bad or Rams fans? You voted --

COWHERD: I would say eventually a bad idea.

BEADLE: Ah, this one is tough. I'll just say good but I kind of want maybe. SportsNation? Bad, 56 percent.

COWHERD: Well, right now, the high-profile --

BEADLE: Tough one.

COWHERD: -- high-profile owners right now are seen as meddlers.

From the October 6 edition of ESPN's Around the Horn:

TONY REALI (host): The St. Louis Rams, up for sale, and Rush Limbaugh is interested. You think he'd make a good NFL owner, Woody Paige?

PAIGE: Yes, I do. You've heard of the wildcat offense. You've heard of the wing-T. How about the right-winged-T? And how about that defensive T -- we've heard about them passing, and the pass, greatest show on turf. I want an ultraconservative defense out of St. Louis. Maybe the Rams have a chance to get back in the race.

BLACKISTONE: Well, the buck's got to stop here with political ownership and teams. We can't have this. Who's next? Glenn Beck's going to want a team? James Carville's going to want a team? You got to nip this thing in the bud. We can't have Rush Limbaugh in the NFL. He had his chance, and he ruined it.

REALI: Ultraconservative defense wins the argument. Point to Woody Paige.

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    • Author by ScienceBuff (October 07, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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      Rush, your reputation precedes you. Own it.
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    • Author by dargumedo (October 07, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
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      Two issues resonate that sportswriters are failing to mention.

      A.) Would Rush be in favor of the 'Rooney Rule'? The rule that a team must interview a minority candidate before making a final decision

      B.) The NFL is a very 'socialist' league. The league splits all TV money equally along with most of the merchandising and ticket sales. Will Rush continue to support this? The way the league divides revenue is part of its overwhelming success. If NFL divided its revenues as baseball did, Rush's St. Louis team would not be able to compete.
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      • Author by Disputed Zone (October 07, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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        Whatever Limbaugh personally thinks of the Rooney Rule, it's not going anywhere anytime soon. That would be a PR disaster.

        However, revenue sharing and salary cap are going to be highly contentious issues in upcoming collective bargaining negotiations. Cowboy's owner Jerry Jones was recently fined for saying revenue sharing was on its way out.

        Philosophically, you would think Limbaugh would oppose both policies, but as a small market team, the Rams benefit from both. Should Limbaugh's ownership bid succeed, it would be interesting to see how he votes.
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    • Author by SLRTX (October 07, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
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      I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

      The freedom of speech can either move mountains, or give someone enough rope to hang themselves.

      I hope Rush has enough rope.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (October 07, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
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        Made of hemp, naturally.
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      • Author by SLRTX (October 07, 2009 8:01 pm ET)
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        Good lord! You mean someone actually gave me a thumbs down on my innocuous post?

        I'm convinced that Limburger and Becky go through these & give unflattering remarks the thumbs down.

        They have a lot of time on their hands.

        They certainly don't spend any time on fact checking!
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    • Author by RobertSeattle (October 07, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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      Revenue Sharing, Team Salary Caps, Individual Salary Minimums, weaker teams are given help in the form of weaker schedules... The NFL is owned by... BILLIONAIRE SOCIALISTS!!! How could Limbaugh join that?
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
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        It should matter but it doesn't because he's a hypocrite.

        But there will be no way, absolutely zero chance, that this goes through. The other owners won't accept him into their club.
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      • Author by JustAJoe (October 10, 2009 7:20 am ET)
           
        Because it is only Socialism if people who empty bedpans in hospitals form a union. When billionaires do it it's called "The American Way".
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    • Author by big2xrube6146 (October 07, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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      Sounds like the NFL and players have figured out just who Rush really is.
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    • Author by Media Mumblings (October 07, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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      Can someone explain to me how this has anything to do with bias in media? This site is full of a bunch of people that obsess over Limbaugh as much as the majority of its visitors. This is just red meat for the leftist dogs. Media Matters throws out conservative figures or certain buzz words that are designed to illicit a Pavlovian response. Mission accomplished, Media Matters!
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      • Author by PurpleState (October 07, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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        It's reaction to bias in the media and its spread to other parts of society. Rush and racism in football have had a history, and Rush's attempt to get a foot in the NFL's door is a step that the sports media (yes, "media" as in "Media Matters") has reacted to.

        I'd explain more, but they've just rung the bell for me here, and I'm starting to salivate. Dinner must be ready!
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      • Author by bintx (October 07, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
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        Couldn't you find another article to pass off as your own?

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      • Author by AB-001 (October 07, 2009 5:12 pm ET)
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        Rush speaks. People react. 1st Amendment works
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      • Author by Lord of Light (October 07, 2009 7:21 pm ET)
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        I don't know -- could you explain the point of your post? Pretty lame rebuttal. Typical right wing: It's never about facts, it's about style, bias and offending (cough, cough) "Christian morals."
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      • Author by Kid Funkadelic (October 07, 2009 11:49 pm ET)
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        R U kidding? This would be like Sean Hannity and his friend Hal Turner building a synagogue.Why don't you ask black people about how much they "love" Rush Limbaugh.Other than Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, Niger Innis , and Michael Steele , black people hate a racist like Rush Limbaugh.
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      • Author by bradmann42 (October 08, 2009 2:01 am ET)
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        true that
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    • Author by prtsimmons (October 07, 2009 4:31 pm ET)
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      This reminds me why I am still a sports fan, despite the fact that it seems like a colossal distraction from more pressing issues: sports journalists are often the only employees of a media organization who deserve the title of 'journalist' at all. They report facts and clearly indicate when they stray into the realm of opinion.

      It's a sad statement on American journalistic integrity that the sportswriters are giving lessons to the editors and investigative journalists on how to call BS when they hear it. How is it that these sportswriters can remember all the racist, hypocritical things that Rush has said, yet mainstream journalists continue to act surprised when they hear accusations of racism against Limbaugh?
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      • Author by Lord of Light (October 07, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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        Kinda hard to argue with that. The best thing ever written about Limbaugh was perhaps by Paul Zimmerman in response to him getting a job at ESPN:

        "Rush ... represents, as I've mentioned, everything I hate in political and every other kind of commentary. Narrow-minded, intolerant, a sworn enemy of the disadvantaged, a friend of the power elite, against anyone who would dare to voice protest in an effort to alleviate human misery."
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 08, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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        sports journalists are often the only employees of a media organization who deserve the title of 'journalist' at all

        I'll second that. Over in Detroit, where Republicans are virtually unknown, WJR radio "caters to its listeners' wishes" (/sarcasm) with a line-up that's wall-to-wall conservatives, from home-grown Paul W. Smith (who has subbed for Limbaugh) to Hannity, Levin, and Rush himself. The only exception to this right-wing mire is a show by Mitch Albom, a very thoughtful and honest journalist, whose main career has been as a sportswriter.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (October 08, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
           
        Remember the Bob Costas interview of Bush? A sportscaster doing an actual interview.
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    • Author by ButteryPat (October 07, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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      You know, I know I'll get a thumbs down or two for this, and a couple snide comments, but I see no problem with "Barack the Magic Negro". I admit, I haven't listened to the song, so perhaps racial malice is revealed in the tone, but I've read all the lyrics and found nothing racist about it. In fact, I kinda liked how they mocked the whole "is he black enough/is he too black" thing. It's critical of what the author (not Limbaugh) considers the media assigning to Obama the characteristics of a "magical Negro", an all-too-prevalent archetype in media. That's an acknowledgement of racism, not a racist statement itself. My feathers are easily ruffled, too, so when I don't see a problem, it tells you something. I thought the Lion King and Hey Arnold were racist, for heaven's sake. :)

      That said, Limbaugh is most certainly a dirty racist, and there's a mountain of evidence proving it. "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back", anyone? I'd actually enjoy him being an NFL owner a lot. It'd give me another team to hate, and I'd love to see black players jumping ship. Although, God forbid his team wins the Super Bowl. We'd never hear the end of it. But I digress. Taking song titles out of context isn't our job, that's for the Puritans. Remember "Suicide Solution"?
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    • Author by wzwriter (October 07, 2009 5:19 pm ET)
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      Rush Limbaugh would be the worst thing to happen to professional sports since Marge Scott.
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      • Author by John Paradox (October 08, 2009 12:52 am ET)
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        nitpick:

        Marge Schott..

        {and I don't follow any sports)
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        • Author by Unreality (October 08, 2009 1:51 am ET)
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          You beat me to the correction. But the memory of Marge Schott's embarrassing behavior is on the nose.
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 08, 2009 11:13 am ET)
             
          Right you are. Baseball fans, even Cincinnati Reds fans frequently called her Marge "she ought to be" Schott.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (October 07, 2009 5:45 pm ET)
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      I want an ultraconservative defense out of St. Louis.


      You already have that. With an ultraconservative offense.
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    • Author by ProgLib (October 07, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
         
      damn you, woody paige!
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    • Author by princeofwheels (October 07, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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      Rush walks out into the real world and he doesn't like what he sees. He stays in his fortress, unable to live like normal people, but when he ventures out, he finds that people can be as tough on him as he is on them. But RushiePoo, will do his usual bit and have his dittoheads fight his battle.

      Mr. Limbaugh, if your American Dream fails, don't sulk or get mad, just pull up those boot straps and try again. Don't portray yourself as a victim because it is you who victimized you.
      Your behavior is being recognized and aren't you the one who said "Bad Publicity is as comparable to Good Publicity..it is the PR that counts".

      Funny how Mr. Limbaugh is being critized by people who really don't follow politics. And the Republicans STILL can't figure out why Rush representing them has hurt them on the last two election. ARE YOU STARTING TO CATCH ON????

      Back to an old line...Rush is going top change the name of the Rams to symbolize his thankfulness for all of those who have support him over the years. It will be the ArseTrich...that people-like animal that buries something up its own something.
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    • Author by donwelty (October 07, 2009 6:16 pm ET)
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      Isn't it ironic that Limbaugh, one of the major idiots on the far right, wishes to buy the team that Rachal Maddow listed as
      a team that contributes more money than others to liberal causes.
      Maybe we can think of a team that Rush would be proud to own. Perhaps you could start a new team made up of some elderly people who used to have their own group, such as the Ku Klux Klan. Then Limbaugh can recruit people who would be proud to wear the uniform.
      The Knights could use a chess piece with a hood over the horse as its mascot. I don't think the team would do very well, because it's very difficult to play football looking through a pillowcase with two eyeholes. I think the biggest problem would be recruiting.
      And of course the team would probably lose money in its first 90 years, which is about as long as it would take for some people who think like Rush to change their minds.
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    • Author by serg99 (October 07, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
         
      Well maybe all the African American and white America players should lose on purpose or leave the team to show rushbo what they think of him and his insanity. Or maybe rush can pick his players you know the type he likes and he could make their helmets white and pointy like a wizards hat you know like a grand wizard
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    • Author by CitizenX (October 07, 2009 6:27 pm ET)
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      Get over yourselves. Rush is an entertainer like Jerry Jones or Mark Cuban or any other person in sports or the media. Its not about racism. They all say inflammatory things for ratings just like this website and others. Just because you don't agree with his views doesn't make him a racist. He is simply an extremely rich person, much like the players in the NFL, who are being targeted by Obama for redistribution of their wealth.

      I wonder if you will cry racism when Obama's taxes take a huge bite out of NFL, NBA and MLB players' salaries? The majority of those players are minorities.......
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (October 08, 2009 9:48 am ET)
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        It's not disagreement with his views that make us regard him as a racist. It's the racist things he says and the racist justifications for his views that make us think he's a racist.

        I can understand the clowns who say inflammatory things for ratings. The thing is that they then own those statements. They don't get to say "Hey, I just said those racist things for ratings. I'm not really a racist."
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    • Author by mefirst (October 07, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
         
      how could the nfl even give him any serious consideration? a man who said donovan mcnabb only played because the liberal media wanted a black quarterback playing. mcnabb may not be the best quarterback out there, especially now, but there was a time when he led the eagles to the playoffs. he has been a solid player and he certainly did not play because of the color of his skin. even now there are teams that would love to have him. the nfl does not need this and he would be rightfully resented.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (October 07, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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        but there was a time when he led the eagles to the playoffs

        You need to go further. McNabb let the Eagles to FOUR consecutive NFC championship games.
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        • Author by Unreality (October 08, 2009 1:54 am ET)
             
          Yeah, 4 times. A perfect example of liberal guilt combined with McNabb's unrequited quest for reparations, he just wouldn't give up. [sarcasm]
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (October 07, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
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      "and THE CHICKENS have come home to ROOST." Rev. Wright.

      Limbugh is an arrogant basturd, he really thinks that his money is going to make this a done deal. It may happen, or it may not. Regardless, he is going to take some serious hits. It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

      If he fails it will be a week's worth of radio rants; can't wait.




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    • Author by dusaa1975 (October 07, 2009 7:50 pm ET)
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      i know that this is an inconvenient truth; but what Rush said about McNabb was not racist, and he was not fired because of his comment. Rush was hired onto the show to inject controversial comments, and when he did....People were just shocked !!
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 08, 2009 11:26 am ET)
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        Revisionist History 101

        i know that this is an inconvenient truth; but what Rush said about McNabb was not racist,

        No? What, then, do you think would have been a racist comment?

        and he was not fired because of his comment.

        Then why was he fired? Please enlighten us.

        Rush was hired onto the show to inject controversial comments, and when he did....People were just shocked !!

        So you think that his statement about McNabb wasn't racist, but it was controversial. Since the statement was explicitly about McNabb's race, how was it controversial without being racist?

        Or do you think Limbaugh was fired over other "controversial" statements?
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        • Author by mookie von zipper (October 08, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
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          it should be ok, and is quite possible, to discuss race without being racist, as limbaugh clearly did with his mcnabb observation... espn threw him under the bus for doing precisely what they hired him to do, be provocative... it's not like there is a shortage of ex jocks and coaches to hire...

          here's a true example of racism... 32 nfl teams passing on warren moon in the college draft, including the oilers who eventually signed him as a free agent after he proved himself in canada, because they could not accept a black man playing the quarterback position...

          reporting from murderland ranch,
          i'm mookie von zipper
          massmurdermedia

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          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (October 08, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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            Rush's statement was false. Donovan McNabb is an excellent QB. The fact that he interjected race into a statement that even he probably knew was false, in order to garner sympathy for his own white race, is most definitely racist.
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            • Author by mookie von zipper (October 08, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
                 
              his statement can never be proven to be true or false... but crying racism doesn't speak to his opinion of mcnabb being overrated by the media wanting him to succeed because he is black...

              what is true is that while mcnabb is not an excellent QB, he is not a QB who will cost you games, and many head coaches would love to have him... as for 4 consecutive NFC championship appearances, the sports punditry consensus of the day was that philly's defense got them there... mcnabb played well enough to keep them from losing but philly's offense was never rated very high...

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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 09, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
                   
                "what is true is that while mcnabb is not an excellent QB, he is not a QB who will cost you games, and many head coaches would love to have him... as for 4 consecutive NFC championship appearances, the sports punditry consensus of the day was that philly's defense got them there... mcnabb played well enough to keep them from losing but philly's offense was never rated very high..." - mookie

                I am not a Philly fan and have never been a huge McNabb guy, but these statements show (as did Limbaugh's) a complete lack of understanding of the NFL and quarterbacks. In 2001, McNabb threw for over 3000 yards, 25 TDs, and 12 INTs. His rating was over 84. In 2002, he threw for almost 2300 yards in only 10 games, 17 TDs, and 6 INTs with a rating over 86. In 2003, he threw over 3000 yards again, 16 TDs, and 11 INTs for a rating just under 80. In 2004, in only 15 games he threw for almost 4000 yards, 31 TDs, and 8 INTs for a rating over 104.

                "mcnabb played well enough to keep them from losing but philly's offense was never rated very high..." - mookie

                Putting aside the first 3 years, which look pretty good to me, I don't know how you can defend your statement in a year when he threw for 3800 yards, over 30 TDs, and less than 10 INTs with a rating over 104. That is simply ludicrous.

                Also, in 2008 McNabb once again went to the NFC finals with over 3900 yards, 23 TDs, and only 11 INTs with a rating, once again, over 86. He continues to prove Limbaugh a moron and his race-baiting statements FALSE. Unless your view is clouded by partisanship or worship of Limbaugh, there is just no other way to see it.
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                • Author by mookie von zipper (October 09, 2009 7:47 pm ET)
                     
                  i understand QB's enough to know that an average QB can achieve a rating in the mid 80's, which is what mcnabb was averaging at the time of rush's comment... while his 2004 performance is quite impressive, by the time that season was over rush had been off espn for over a year... the fact that from 2001 - 2003 mcnabb had consistantly been rated behind 7 or more other QB's only bolsters rush's argument, not that he's no good, but that he's simply overrated...

                  as a texans fan i've suffered thru many losing seasons of david carr and his QB ratings peaking in the mid 80's... but if they had had philly's defense they certainly would have had winning records...



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            • Author by Disputed Zone (October 09, 2009 10:24 am ET)
                 
              Rush was supporting a longstanding theory held by many racists, who, in coming to terms with the fact that many of the sport's best players are black, comforted themselves with the idea that, blacks don't have the intelligence to succeed at quarterback.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 09, 2009 4:11 pm ET)
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            "because they could not accept a black man playing the quarterback position..." - mookie

            This is exactly the mindset that Limbaugh was displaying. He said the only reason McNabb was still a starting quarterback was because the NFL somehow had a vested interest in a black quarterback being successful. (Let's put aside the fact that this is completely ridiculous on its face and shows a complete lack of understanding of pro sports, the NFL, and Philadelphia in general.) The suggestion would be that the NFL is out to disprove the idea that black men were incapable of being a quarterback. Do you really not see that?
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            • Author by mookie von zipper (October 09, 2009 8:32 pm ET)
                 
              he accused the media, not the nfl, of overrating mcnabb...

              someone better tell tony dungy that rush is a racist, so he will no longer appear on rush's show and pay to advertise his book on rush's website...

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    • Author by tjmccool2284 (October 07, 2009 8:00 pm ET)
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      Who cares? It's an NFC team; what, he'd make them worse? I say give the man as many chances to make himself look bad as he can get.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (October 07, 2009 8:45 pm ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      Sepsis Gadfly, (Rush Limbaugh), would want to change the name, of the team, to the St. Louis Aryans. Swastika emblazoned helmets on an all white team, will certainly reap millions of fans.

      How is that a good idea? We would know who they are, unless they choose to wear the hood and robe of the Ku Klux Klan. Then again, their license plates are visible, and the bumper stickers, with a hanged man graphics would proclaim team affiliation.

      Free speech, and the stadium will peel with the repetitive, "Sieg Heil," booming out of our televisions. That will be a proud moment for Sepsis Gadfly. Burning cross, anyone?

      It be it,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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    • Author by rjmadrid05 (October 08, 2009 12:40 am ET)
         
      they suck anyways. they will probably lose every game this year. let him buy them. he'll fail.
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    • Author by blakester (October 08, 2009 1:04 am ET)
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      Love the comments by the journalists. It would be an embarrassment for the NFL to have Limbaugh as an owner.

      My theory is he sees it as a quick investment: buy the Rams, move to big market LA, sell the now big marked team to someone else at inflated price, pocket profit, out of the NFL.
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      • Author by Unreality (October 08, 2009 1:57 am ET)
           
        That would be a logical decision, but I think it's a personal, not a business decision.

        I assert it's because he's from Missouri and feels this will make him one of the jocks.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 08, 2009 5:29 am ET)
         
      If El-Rushbo becomes the owner, does that mean the taxpayers of St. Louis won't ever foot the bill for a new stadium?

      After all isn't El-Rushbo against "socialism" ?
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    • Author by mesoanarchy (October 08, 2009 7:47 am ET)
         
      These mainstream media responses to the Checketts-Limbaugh, et al. efforts to purchase the Rams, are disgusting. They are weak and do no real damage to either man, nor do they put any real pressure on the other 31 team owners to stop the purchase by these men should they want that outcome.

      Rush Limbaugh is no "conservative," as all describe him, he is a far right-wing, neo-fascist, racist and needs to be known as such. And Dave Checketts needs to be included in EVERY criticism of Limbaugh's want to own the Rams (and run the day-to-day operations). If the adage, you are who your friends and associates are is true, then what of Checketts? What of his ownership of the St. Louis Blues hockey team?

      Sports, with its stark messages and stark measures of success and failure, is the clearest lens through which we can view our society. The least thing the mainstream media can do is treat this issue with the absolute stark seriousness it deserves.
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    • Author by Cheney2012 (October 08, 2009 9:15 am ET)
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      Exactly how does this article have anything to do with the mission of MM?
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    • Author by brdavids (October 08, 2009 11:08 am ET)
         
      Everyone should know about Roman's current work traveling the country in an effort to educate America's youth on the college athletic recruiting process for www.ncsasports.org
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    • Author by pasc (October 08, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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      Ever notice the parallels between Rush and Palin? Lots of words and deed past and present to regret (and/or hope folks will forget), lots of avoidance of media which might challenge them, lots of stupid, bigotted followers.
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    • Author by CitizenX (October 08, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
         
      You are all missing the point. But I can udnerstand it given the current institutional bias away from the First Amendment. Rush made a comment that he is entitled to make just like you all have posted comments you are entitled to post. He is not a reacist or neo-nazi as some suggest. Again, you disagree with his views and thus label him with ad hominems. That doesn't help you convince anyone of anything other than you are narrow-minded and intolerant of dissenting view points. Rather than attack the man, attack his views. WHile it may be a pleasant distraction for you, it doesn't serve any useful purpose. If he has the money let him buy the team. I support his right to try just as I would Gore, Kerry, Rockefellar, the Kennedys, etc. All persons who have said heinous things as our elected representatives and have the money to make such a business proposal if they wnated to.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 09, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
           
        I love how you compare Kennedy and Kerry and Gore to Limbaugh. Would love to hear you compare the "heinous" things that you are attempting to contrast here.

        You need to learn up on the first amendment. It has nothing to do with Limbaugh. He is not being denied any first amendment rights and it makes you look ridiculous when you claim these things.

        Lastly, Limbaugh is a documented racist race-baiter. Do you really need me to go through all the things he has said and prove it to you? Are you that out of touch?
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    • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 09, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
         
      Personally, I could not care less if Rush was an NFL owner. He could not do any worse than the Rams are right now. If he has the money and he can afford to buy his way in, let him in.
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    • Author by JustAJoe (October 10, 2009 7:09 am ET)
         
      He just wants the chance to hang out in the locker room and try to get his hands on some pills. The docs cut him off and he is desperate.
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