After repeatedly smearing people with falsehoods, Beck claims "the things that we are saying ... are true"
Attacking White House communications director Anita Dunn for saying that Fox News is "undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House" and suggesting the network is not a "legitimate news organization," Glenn Beck asserted of his attacks against Obama administration officials, "[T]he things that we are saying have been checked out; they are true." In fact, Beck has repeatedly made false statements in his witch hunt against Obama administration officials, such as calling Van Jones "a convicted felon" and claiming that Cass Sunstein "believes that everyone must be an organ donor."
Beck: "[T]he things that we are saying have been checked out; they are true"
From the October 13 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): I remember during your show when you were talking a lot about the czars, you would say, "I know the White House is watching, and, so far, they haven't disputed much of anything that I have said."
BECK: Yeah, you know what's amazing is, I mean, I see it all the time. I see their statements, and they'll say, "Oh, the smear" -- I mean, exactly what people used to say about those who were going after [former President] Nixon. "Oh, it's just a smear campaign." Help me out, because I'll stop saying the things if they're not true. Just tell me what's not true. But the -- the -- the White House hasn't done that, because the things that we are saying have been checked out; they are true." [10/13/09]
Beck has repeatedly gone after targets of his witch hunt with falsehoods
Beck falsely claimed Van Jones is a "convicted felon." On August 11, Beck said former White House green jobs adviser Jones "is a convicted felon, a guy who spent, I think, six months in prison after the Rodney King beating." In fact, as Eva Paterson, president and founder of the Equal Justice Society, has explained, "Van [Jones] has never served time in any prison. He has never been convicted of any crime."
Beck told falsehoods about Sunstein's views on organ donation, rat removal. Beck falsely claimed on September 9 that Sunstein, head of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, "believes that everyone must be an organ donor." In fact, in a book, Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler advocated for approaches to organ donation policies that "would be likely to save many lives while also preserving freedom" (emphasis added) and did not advocate for mandatory organ donation. Beck also claimed on September 9 that Sunstein said "you should not be able to remove rats from your home if it causes them any pain." In fact, in the introduction to a book of essays he co-edited, Sunstein did not advocate against rat removal, but rather said, "At the very least, people should kill rats in a way that minimizes distress and suffering." Sunstein also stated that, from a utilitarian perspective, "[i]f human beings are at risk of illness and disease from mosquitoes and rats, they have a strong justification, perhaps even one of self-defense, for eliminating or relocating them."
Beck falsely claimed Holdren supported "forced abortion." On July 22, Beck said: "I mean, look at what's going on. We got czars coming out our -- they're shooting out of our butts. Czars like [science and technology adviser] John Holdren, who is -- there is great evil happening in our country. Holdren has proposed forced abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population. Oh, that's crazy. What, that was -- that was 20 years ago." Responding to Beck's claim, the website PolitiFact.com concluded that "the text of the book clearly does not support that. We think a thorough reading shows that these were ideas presented as approaches that had been discussed. They were not posed as suggestions or proposals. In fact, the authors make clear that they did not support coercive means of population control. Certainly, nowhere in the book do the authors advocate for forced abortions." PolitiFact ended its post on Beck's comments by stating, "[W]e rate Beck's claim Pants on Fire!"
Beck boasted that "some of the biggest minds in America" do his research, but frequently gets facts wrong. Beck has bragged that "[m]y credibility means everything to me," and that he has "some of the biggest minds in America" on his research team "working harder than ... any staff ever on television" to get the truth out. However, in addition to his falsehoods about Jones, Sunstein, and Holdren, Beck repeated Andrew Breitbart's false claim that an online video showed community organizers from the Gamaliel Foundation "pray[ing]" to President Obama; claimed an obsolete constitutional provision protecting the slave trade applies to "immigrants"; claimed a "Class of 2007" mosaic painted on tiles outside of a California school was carried by G-20 protesters in Pittsburgh; and seized on a World Climate Conference presentation on short-term natural climate variability by Mojib Latif, a prominent climate modeler, to suggest that Latif has "backed out now and said, 'We were wrong,' " about global warming. In fact, Latif asserted that contrary to common "media" misperceptions of global warming as a "monotonic process" in which "each year is warmer than the preceding year," there are significant natural climate variations within the decadal timescale that do not change the "long-term warming trend."















Doggone commie, liberal media.
Leave the media catfights to those in the media. The White House needs to stay on message, do the work they were elected to do, stay positive and don't sink to the level of a network that slings and wallows in the mud.
If conservatives can cry foul about the media, why can't liberals?
Intelligent, educated, informed individuals that are moderate or independent in their voting have been lost by the Republicans specificially because of Fox News and Limbaugh. It is a master-stroke by the White House to make these voices out to be the Republican party. What is remarkable, is that so few on the Republican side of the aisle have caught on and actually attempted to extricate themselves from the stranglehold of Fox News and Limbaugh.
Limbaugh and Fox News do not need or want to win any elections. In fact, they probably make more money when their party is out of power. How long will it take the Republican party to figure this out?
Who made you general? Fox News deserves these attacks regardless of how nutjobs like you think it will play out. If nothing else the smearing of Van Jones and Kevin Jennings was reason enough for me.
Well that should be easy then, shouldn't it? If you can't defend yourself against obvious lies, then what can you defend?
they both seem to have it in for USA. both are know to have no real facts.
Actually AL is just a bit better as its facts are at lease some what check on.
Nonsense. That is giving them and their propaganda credibility. Fox News has been marginalized. It is not taken seriously by an honest, unbiased minds. What is amazing is that the Republican party has allowed Fox to become so aligned with them. Now, the entire Republican party has become marginalized. Once again, Obama has shown himself to be two steps ahead of Fox News and the Republicans.
Nonsense. Obama has consistently outmaneuvered Fox News, and the Republicans along with them. Fox News IS marginalized and the Republican party has followed them right out into the wilderness.
The majority of Americans don't buy into Fox News's nonsense. They either laugh or wretch when they hear their obvious nonsense. Obama should certainly NOT appeal to the Fox News crowd. That has done NOTHING for the Republican party but lose one election after another.
The word is out on Fox News and Limbaugh. They believe in party over country. What is amazing is that the Republican leadership has allowed Fox News and Limbaugh to become their representatives in public. They will never get out of the political wilderness until they wake up. I do not care how big you think Fox News' ratings are, they have been proven to be electorally irrelevant.
Then why all the stress over Fox? You cannot continue to say they are crappy and illegitimate yet freak out everytime they lie. It makes no sense.
I don't think I freak out everytime Fox lies - that is your own caricature. But I can certainly say they are a crappy and illegitimate news organization and they are not worthy of the title "news". I can certainly refer to them as the mouthpiece of the Republican party. I certainly can. Why can't I? The Republican party is certainly not refuting it.
Have you watched Obama and then watched Fox News? I don't think the White House is stressed out about them. I think Fox News is stressed out about Obama. You might want to look again.
It's exactly why Obama didn't publicly comment on the Birther conspiracy...why give them legitimacy that they don't have?
Obama's taking a page out of W's book on this one--never allow the opposition to dictate the terms of the conversation.
Why don't you ask those who were blacklisted by McCarthy. The Americans who lost their careers due to lies and innuendo.
Exactly what 'liberals' in the White House are you talking about??
There hasn't been any true liberals in the WH since the Johnson administration.
If you believe that Obama and/or his administration is in any way liberal... you have not one damn clue as to what you are talking about!!
It's about FALSE stories.
The White House and the "liberal media" are falling into a trap set by the far right to keep them off message and make sure nothing gets done.
If all Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al were doing is exposing facts to their audience, then FoxNews's objections to being called out like this would be accurate and relevant and newsworthy. If all they were doing was providing their audience with factual information that doesn't help the White House, then Obama's argument would fail.
But that's not the case. Another strawman argument bites the dust.
The lies of Fox are dangerous and are becoming more and more dangerous every day.
What kind of meaningless qualifier is that, exactly? I will go on under an understanding, blah, blah, blah. Ridiculous.
Anita Dunn, WH Communication Director, October 10, 2009, on CNN.
What part of that statement fits with your continued retorts?
And it's that I tried to derail that strategy that has made him get teed off at me.
Given Fox's already worthless reputation among Obama supporters, I think it's a stretch to assert that Administration officials talking $*** about Fox News would make supporters more prone to tune in to Fox News.
The Administration's approach to dealing with the enemy, in my view, should make conservatives proud: Don't talk to the enemy. Instead, talk $*** in the media about the enemy. Rattle sabers. Ratchet up the rhetoric. Sounds like it's straight from the conservative playbook.
What about Major Garret? He's in the White House press corps. If the "czars" are such a huge story at Fox, why doesn't he use his access to confront the administration about Jones, Sunstein and Holdren?
Simple answer: Fox is just as cowardly as the Obama Administration. The right-wing professional liars talk $*** and lie all day from the safety of their news desks, but they pass on all opportunities to say it directly to the White House.
We are. FOX "News" is the propaganda arm of the republican party. Their sole purpose is to undermine the Democratic Party and propped up the woeful republican party.
Because they (Fox News) are the Republican party. Because they (Fox News) are the opposition. Obama has never ignored the opposition, he just recognizes that their voices should be considered by where they are coming from - A bunch of sore losers who are no longer in power and are becoming increasing irrelevant.
This is politics 101 by Obama. Take the least attractive part of your political opponents (Fox News and Limbaugh) and make them the opposition. What is remarkable is that the Republicans have allowed this to happen. As long as the Republican party allows Obama to portray Fox News and Limbaugh as what Republicans believe, he has nothing to worry about. The days of Limbaugh or Fox News swinging voters is over, and I thought this had already been settled.
Then I ask you again, why bother? Why is the WH tangling with something they needn't worry about? Doesn't speak well of where their priorities are, does it? They either are something to worry about, or they aren't.
Why bother what? Aligning Fox News with the Republican party? Because as long as the Republican party will do nothing to refute this, it is good for business for the Democrats and Obama. Fox News is the kind of political adversary you want. They make fools of themselves daily. As long as this is all the Republicans have, Obama is in good shape.
But he was trying to derail the thread, and he did a very good job, several times, didn't he?
The issue wasn't if Obama should go on FoxNews, or if FoxNews should be called out for their falsehoods by the White House. But that's what he was able to turn it into, all the while avoiding the reality that Beck is claiming that FoxNews doesn't lie.
Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director on CNN, 10/11/09.
You are incorrect in your assessment.
As not to give them any satisfaction.
Well and why go to they place went you can be more effective on your own ground. But then again your side really dont have many good leaders to be able to understand.
Went you can sit back and have them self destruct.
As a old school Sargent I would not leave or give any ammo my enemys can use against my troops.
Come on. Everyone has caught onto Fox News and their silliness. No adult takes them seriously as a news organization. The "true believers" who still buy their crap have been shown to be electorally irrevlevant.
Agreeing with Fox that they are simply the opposition and no longer a news organization is just getting one step closer to EVERYONE considering them what they are - the Republican party. He will still engage them, just as he does the Republicans. But any opposition they voice should be looked at as partisan, not journalistic. What is amazing is that the Republicans have allowed this to happen.
How can you possibly believe that Fox News becoming the voice of the Republicans has turned out well for the Republicans? It has been nothing but a blessing for the Democrats. Check the last few election cycles if you do not believe me.
What's happening is that Fox is making the news. They are forcing other networks and now the WH to respond to them. That's not how it should be. I will echo a comment from above, that what the response is about in each case is false reporting, not necessarily tough reporting.
Sadly, very few of the Fox audience will ever learn the truth. They will only see this through the filter of Fox News. For example, I'm certain Hannity will edit any statement accusing him of editing statements.
Obama will go on Fox any time they ask . . . they haven't asked because they know that if he shows up on their Network, he will demolish their idiot crew.
As long as moderate, independent Americans believe that Republicans, and their candidates actually support the nonsense that comes out of Limbaugh and Fox News, Obama has nothing to worry about politically in the long run. And he knows it. I am sure he is amazed that they have made it this easy for him to marginalize them.
The topic is Beck trying to claim that he's a purveyor of the truth when he's not.
His audience reacts to ever greater tall tales, and Beck feeds them what they want in spades. It seems that Beck has yet to find where the boundaries of credulity are.
I will admit that every once in a while he does bring up important topics, with legitimate concerns, but then he just dives off the deep in and starts shoving things together on that godforsaken chalkboard of his to try and make sense of an out-of-the-park theory. Then fails horribly at it.