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Following Limbaugh, conservative media push baseless charge that Obama administration helped kill his Rams bid

October 19, 2009 9:03 am ET — 127 Comments

Following Rush Limbaugh's failed bid to purchase the St. Louis Rams football team, the right-wing media have echoed Limbaugh's baseless claim that the Obama administration was involved in torpedoing his NFL ambitions. Limbaugh has claimed that the Obama administration "corrupted" the NFL bidding process because the head of the NFL Players Association, DeMaurice Smith, once served as counsel for Attorney General Eric Holder.

Limbaugh's conspiracy theory: Obama "corrupted" NFL new-owner bidding process

Limbaugh: "Obama people have got their hooks in the NFL now." Limbaugh claimed that "[t]he NFL is as politicized as anything else is in this country, and for lack of a better word, when DeMaurice Smith, and Al Sharpton, and Rev. Jackson can pressure the commissioner into saying who can and cannot even apply and go through the vetting process, then they've got their own slippery slope and they're admitting that politics is here. And DeMaurice Smith is an Obama-ite. The transition team. A big donor. Close buddy of Eric Holder. So Obama, the Obama people have got their hooks in the NFL now." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show, 10/16/09]

Limbaugh: Obama "corrupted" November elections, Nobel Peace Prize, NFL bidding process. Limbaugh declared that in "each of these instances, Obama's success begins and ends with corrupting the voting process. And not just the November elections. I'll mention me first, the process where bids are taken for NFL owners to vote on new owners. The vote process has been totally corrupted." [Rush Limbaugh Show, 10/16/09]

Smith served as counsel for Holder in the 90s. According to his NFL Players Association biography, Smith previously "served as Counsel to then Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder in the U.S. Department of Justice before entering private practice. His duties revolved around national security issues, congressional relations, and DOJ budget and finance allocation. He was also responsible for the development of business and strategic plans for prison construction, as well as budget development and component management of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons and the U.S. Marshals Service." A July 14 Associated Press article reported that Smith "served on the Obama transition team and also worked for Eric Holder before Holder became attorney general."

Right-wing media run with Limbaugh conspiracy theory

American Thinker: "Limbaugh Targeted by Obama Official." A October 16 blog post by Joseph Ashby detailed the conspiracy theory, stating, "we know that a former Obama official and political ally -- who was chosen by the NFLPA specifically for his political clout and connections to the highest rungs of power in government -- directly attacked Limbaugh for the radio-talker's political commentary." Ashby added: "Historically politicians have been prone to vindictive and petty behavior, but never in American history has someone had so much power to pummel his political opponents as President Obama. With control over banks, insurance companies, car companies, media (sports media included) and unions (like the NFL players union), Obama tentacles seem to penetrate into nearly every corner of the nation."

Instapundit flogs reader claim that this is "something Nixon" would "have done." Instapundit's Glenn Reynolds highlighted the American Thinker post and added a reader response which read in part, "[T]his is a big, big deal, and something Nixon ( or maybe Gene Talmadge or George Wallace in his heyday.) would have done."

On Fox News, Juan Williams suggested Obama administration was "involved in this." NPR's Juan Williams said while guest-hosting for Bill O'Reilly on the October 16 O'Reilly Factor, "Now everybody knows that Rush is a huge critic of the Obama administration. But here is something that you probably did not know. Smith worked on President Obama's transition team. And he also used to work with Attorney General Eric Holder. Did you know that?" He later added: "What we've seen here is so much information coming out about how the Obama administration and their friends were all involved with this."

Fox Nation links to Limbaugh claim. After Limbaugh floated his conspiracy theory, Fox Nation linked to a video of Limbaugh's October 16 comments initially under the headline, "Did a Former Obama Official Kill Limbaugh's NFL bid?" From Fox Nation:

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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 19, 2009 9:20 am ET)
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      If the Obama administration is this powerful, maybe they should turn the switch off on the golden EIB microphone.
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    • Author by wesley (October 19, 2009 9:31 am ET)
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      -- he right-wing media have echoed Limbaugh's baseless claim -- mmfa

      Must be in a hurry to get something out early Monday morning. Declaring the claim "baseless" and then citing numerous sources on which the claim is "based"...with no rebuttal evidence.

      Limbaugh and some supporters have the opinion that Smith's actions are political and tied to the Obama cabal...mmfa's opinion is that they are not.

      This story belongs on the mmfa blog roll...where opinions are voiced.

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      • Author by mk3872 (October 19, 2009 9:59 am ET)
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        Wesley, you're an idiot. "The Obama cabal". Good lord, man, turn off the hate radio and FNC from your TV and live your own life!
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        • Author by Victor Colorado (October 19, 2009 10:02 am ET)
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          He may have just been in a hurry to get something out early Monday morning.
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          • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 11:16 am ET)
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            I just got something out early this morning. It was brown and stinky,I had to flush it, but it didn't stink as bad as Wesley's, 'Obama cabal.'

            What an idiot. Wesley didn't even cast a real vote in the presidential election, he wrote in fictional characters on his ballot. So even though he was too much of a punk to cast a real vote he thinks he we should give a crap about his opinion of the president.

            Idiot.


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      • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 10:01 am ET)
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        Limbaugh was forced out by his fellow investors, not the NFL. Having said that, the NFL, its coaches and its players had the RIGHT to voice their opinions regarding having this man who referred to the players as the "Cripes and the Bloods." He's been spewing this racist nonsense for years . . . the chickens came home to roost and his over-inflated EGO won't let him accept the blame for this OWN actions. People like you just feed that EGO. Why? He represents NOTHING conservative . . . NOTHING.

        Let Rush pay for his own racism and lack of restraint. The only person to blame for him not being able to achieve his dream is HIM and his big mouth.

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        • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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          Exactly right. It's that rich white guy, right wing sense of entitlement that has him fuming over this rejection. After all these years of Rush worshipping at the altar of the free market, he gets rebuked by his God and he feels he has to blame liberals, instead of a sensible business decision, for his ousting.

          Unbelievable. Everything is personal with this pathetic little gasbag.
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      • Author by CohibaMan (October 19, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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        Right-wing media assertions are not valid "sources." What has been advanced is a flimsy theory based on tenuous evidence. The theory doesn't even begin to explain what happened and appears to exist only as an attempt by Limbaugh to save face and turn a loss into a win. The outcry in the NFL went far beyond Smith and it seems much more reasonable that Smith was reacting to that than the idiotic notion that he was somehow being influenced by shady backdoor political conspiracies.

        On a side note, I find it particularly amusing that the NFL is now a bastion of liberal activism, on par with other political bogeymen such as the ACLU and ACORN. This s***slinging is getting more and more idiotic with every passing day. Maybe next will be MLB. The country's really going to be screwed when fascist-socialist-liberals subvert our national pastime!

        Back to the subject at hand, Limbaugh et al are the ones making the claim. They have the burden of proof - you can't seriously expect Media Matters to rebut what isn't there.

        Obama didn't sabotage Limbaugh. Limbaugh sabotaged Limbaugh.
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      • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 10:25 am ET)
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        The simple fact of the matter is that it's not good business for a team to have a high-profile owner, especially one who is controversial.

        At the very least, I'm sure you will agree that Rush is controversial, and it is not in their best interest to have that kind of owner. It's bad for business. It's all very simple.

        To suggest that Barack Obama is so concerned about whether Rush is part-owner of a football team that he is going to play some role in it is just a bit silly.
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        • Author by lafavorita (October 19, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
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          And the comic cherry on the cake was Huffington's headline:
          PAUL PELOSI BUYS FOOTBALL TEAM.

          yeah, yeah- it's not a REAL football league- but the framing alone was great joke.
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        • Author by duke22 (October 20, 2009 3:08 am ET)
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          It's official folks,Rush Lambugh's ego has landed!
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      • Author by newzhound (October 19, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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        Google Glum Bleek and the fact he's never refuted the accusation that the raped and killed a woman several years ago.

        That's right wing nutz "proof" - not real proof in the real world.
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      • Author by sleepy joe (October 20, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
           
        Who knows if Smith's actions were political. It doesn't matter.It was Smith of the NFL that told Rush to take a hike. It was his fellow investors - unles THEY too have ties to Obama.
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    • Author by big2xrube6146 (October 19, 2009 9:32 am ET)
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      Just more BS and lies coming out of Rush's mouth. With all the BS that has been coming out of his mouth I bet he really has bad breath.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (October 19, 2009 9:35 am ET)
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      The truth remains that Jesse Jackson and Rev. Sharpton did him in..but the egos of Rush etc. cannot accept this.

      Rush, buy the NFL network pass or watch RedZone.
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    • Author by phredicles (October 19, 2009 9:55 am ET)
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      But wait: last week it was George Soros who quashed Lardbutt's NFL dreams.

      So does Soros work for Obama? Or is Obama working for Soros?
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 19, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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      Oh, Boo-frickin'-who! What the hell is the matter with the whiny little b!tches?! Cry me a freakin' river.

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      Losers
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    • Author by Diosnomeama (October 19, 2009 10:08 am ET)
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      The fact that Mr. Limbaugh is blaming Mr. Obama for another imagined transgression shouldn't surprise anyone. What did surprise me is that he didn't blame the oxycontin induced magic shoe-making elves that live in his brain for ruining his life.
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    • Author by themidnightreview.com (October 19, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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      If the free market did not want Limbaugh as a potential investor, then maybe this is an indicator that the free market does not support Limbaugh's ideology.

      Limbaugh needs to accept the fact that he does not speak for the majority and that the administration has nothing to do with his failure as a human being.

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      The Midnight Review
      Mum Is The Word
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (October 19, 2009 10:37 am ET)
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      Hey Rush, remember when you were in California and you couldn't get the dittocam to work ----- Obama!

      And remmember when the dittocam worked, but the audio went down ---
      Obama!

      Be careful out there Rush.
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    • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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      How is this baseless? The commissioner has his political beliefs and if he is connected to Obama in some way (which he clearly is), it's easily possible that he made his decision for political reasons.
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      • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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        Well, a couple of things. The commissioner didn't kick Rush out of the running, his fellow investors did. And, two, that's not the point that these idiots are trying to make, but you knew that.
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      • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 10:53 am ET)
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        Rush's mouth did him in . . . the blame lies squarely on HIS shoulders and on HIS mouth. He needs to be a big boy and just accept it. He did it to himself.
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        • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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          Again we see cons not taking personal responsibility for their words and deeds.
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          • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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            Yeah because the liberals NEVER do that. I mean, it's not like you blame Bush for everything that's wrong with the economy or anything. The $1 trillion stimulus package that was spent on pork had nothing to do with it.
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            • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
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              It wasn't Bush. It was conservative market fundamentalism that wrecked the economy.

              The economy was destroyed before one penny of stimulus was spent. And if the stimulus was so bad, why did every damn Republican vote against it, yet they can't stop begging for more stimulus money in every single state in the union?

              Why don't you just shut up and accept that Rush's hate speech and controversy got the better of him in this deal and he needs to take responsibility for his actions?
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              • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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                Are you trying to say the stimulus worked? That's funny, because it was promised that if it was passed unemployment wouldn't rise above 8% yet it's almost at 10% and expected to rise even further.
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                • Author by magnolialover (October 19, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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                  Nobody ever said unemployment wouldn't go that high, but yes, the stimulus us working and there are signs of economic recovery. Almost every responsible economist said that if passed, the stimulus should work, and that unemployment would continue to rise even past the end of the recession.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
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                    Yes, actually Obama did say that so please stop with the lies. There's no sign that the stimulus did anything at all that would haven't have happened had we done nothing.
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                    • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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                      Actually, you are incorrect. Most REAL economists say that without the stimulus plan, we would have been in a huge depression.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
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                        "Real" economists? Oh, do you mean the ones that don't disagree with your agenda. That's interesting how that works. There are plenty of "real" economists that don't agree with you. The point is, no one knows what would have happened either way.
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                        • Author by Boxer1979 (October 19, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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                          Stark, Economies go through business cycles of recessions and booms. The whole point of running the economy is to avoid depressions. You must remember the point of how this economy got like this is. It is because of deregulation of businesses starting with Reagan, even Nixon, but Reagan took the cake. Anyway when you have the same people teaching these failed policies to people who do not understand, and also with people who are greedy then you will have problems. So what else you want Obama to do? It seems you are the business guru and know how to run the economy. Submit your guidance. We are all awaiting your answer! LOL!
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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                            Cutting peoples' taxes is far more effective than blowing money on pork.
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                            • Author by foghornleghorn (October 19, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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                              You should take an economics class. Or read an ecomonics book.

                              Tax cuts, as has been recently proven, DO NOT WORK, except to transfer wealth to the top 1% of earners.

                              In a consumer-driven economy, when no one has any money to spend, it is the government's responsibility to add funds to the system. Because they're the only entity that has credit.
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                              • Author by Tiredog (October 19, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
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                                "Tax cuts, as has been recently proven, DO NOT WORK, except to transfer wealth to the top 1% of earners."

                                That's w's base...according to w.
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                            • Author by DellDolly (October 19, 2009 2:56 pm ET)
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                              Cutting people's taxes are not a very effective way to stimulate the economy. That's not true. The only tax cut that really stimulates the economy very well is the one that Obama but in this stimulus bill. Giving lower class and middle class people a little more money in every paycheck gets that money spent. Other tax cuts are not effective. Govt spending on job creation, funding unemployment extensions, food stamp extensions, etc, all are good stimulus efforts.

                              You're wrong. I don't think I've seen a post from you that's right, ever.
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                            • Author by Boxer1979 (October 19, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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                              Cutting taxes does not work in any way. If the lower class gets tax cuts, they may make extra money for a little while then their wages will freeze because employers do have to give raises, but their is no limit on how much of a raise they can give. If the rich get tax cuts then obviously you see how that resulted. Trickle-down economics does not work. What this country is lacking is in-country production which was totally destroyed by the last four presidents. Production creates demand which in turn creates growth in jobs and money. I would suggest once the economy gets better taking back some of the BS financial policies passed from the 70's, 80's, 90's, and early 00's. Those policies screwed the middle class and made this country suffer! Actually pork spent in stimulus packages is good if it is spent right. Some pork is ridiculous because it is favorable to businesses and not to the people.
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                        • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
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                          I don't have an agenda, stalker, but you do and you refuse to listen to ANYTHING which is counter to your agenda. My only agenda is that this BS that has been created by the phony conservative hate talk radio folks and Fox STOP.

                          I'm not the only conservative who shares this opinion. If you agree with the crap Rush and his ilk are shoveling, then you are not a conservative, you're just a groupie.
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                    • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
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                      The fact that Republicans are accepting the money to spend in their state, even though the danged hypocrites voted against it, is a good indication that it's actually doing some good for people.

                      That Republicans will be voted out if they reject the funds is also a good indication that people approve of the stimulus package.

                      The only problems with the whole thing is that it didn't go far enough to help more people. That's right, the stimulus wasn't big enough to turn the economy completely around.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
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                        Naturally people are going to accept free money. I think the stimulus package was a terrible thing for the economy but if the government wants to give me some of it, of course I'll take. The stimulus wasn't big enough? What should it have been? $2 trillion? $10 trillion? You do realize that we don't have any money, right?
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                        • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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                          Yes, and the reason we don't have the money is because Mr. Bush's budget, when the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan are added into it, was MUCH higher than Obama's . . . during the time he was trying to prosecute these very, very expensive wars, he decided to cut the taxes on the very wealthiest Americans, thereby depleting resources to fund his GINORMOUS budget and the cost of those two "wars," one legitimate, the other not.

                          As I said MOST legitimate economists believe that the stimulus was NOT large enough, but that it did stem the downward spiral.
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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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                            You can hardly compare 8 years to a few months. Obama has spent more so far than Bush did in his entire term. Also, where's your proof that most "legitimate" (i.e. agrees with the liberals) economists think the stimulus was not big enough? What, not enough money was spent on gang tattoo removal?
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                            • Author by foghornleghorn (October 19, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
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                              Also, where's your proof that most "legitimate" (i.e. agrees with the liberals) economists think the stimulus was not big enough?

                              Google Paul Krugman. He won a Nobel Prize in economics.
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                              • Author by starkcr31 (October 20, 2009 11:13 am ET)
                                   
                                Wow, ONE PERSON? I'm sold!
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                                • Author by foghornleghorn (October 21, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
                                     
                                  I'm not doing your research for you. Krugman is the most prominent one.

                                  (psst - here's a hint - use the google)
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                            • Author by DellDolly (October 19, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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                              Obama has not spent more than Bush in his first 8 months. Remember, the spending that went on in Obama's first 8 months was based upon Bush's budgeted spending and Obama's fiscal stimulus.

                              The stimulus? Necessary, required, and reasonable. Bush's deficit spending? Not so much.
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                              • Author by starkcr31 (October 20, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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                                How much good did it do again?
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                                • Author by roundhouse (October 20, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
                                     
                                  Personally, I have a formerly unemployed friend who received stimulus money, an education grant, to take classes to retrain. He was a laid off construction worker, now he's closing in on a nursing degree and happier than I've ever seen him.

                                  Face it. You're wrong. The stimulus is working and doing good in the lives of real people. It just needs to be bigger.


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                                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 20, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
                                       
                                    The stimulus package has nothing to do with an education grant. That already existed. I guess we can attribute scholarships to the stimulus package while we're at it.
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                        • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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                          Golly, Stark. You're a huge hypocrite. What happened to your conservative principles? If the cons who voted against the bill were to reject the funds they could say that they were rejecting government "waste," doing the principled conservative thing. But no. Instead y'all have hypocrisy so encoded to your genetic makeup, that you take the money and complain about too much government spending. You really suck.

                          But I give you props on turning the discussion away from Limbaugh's lack of personal responsibility for his f'd up business deal. It's always blame, blame, blame with you guys and lecture everybody else about accepting the consequences of their actions.

                          Hypocrites to the core. Go away, loser.
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                          • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
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                            Speaking of gangs, stark. How proud are you of the Republicans who voted against Franken's bill to end rapist's rights in government contracts?

                            And don't tell me it's about the supreme right of subsidized corporations to be free of government entanglement, not when every member who voted against Franken's bill were, just a few weeks prior, railing against subsidies to ACORN.
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                        • Author by DellDolly (October 19, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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                          Yes, and unnecessary deficit spending is wrong. Bill Clinton knew this, and that's why he got us into surpluses. Bush, on the other hand, chose to put us into a deficit spending position with two rounds of voluntary tax cuts, the second one when we were at war, and voluntarily invaded Iraq for no good reason. Obama, again, had to spend this money to avoid having a more terrible cost to our economy with a Depression!

                          We know we don't have any wiggle room in the budget for discretionary, voluntary spending. That's why the healthcare reform bill needs to be deficit-neutral or better. Bush was the President who didn't know that. It was your side that blew the budget all to heck and back. It was your guy, Bush, who kept the two wars off the budget books for 6 or 7 years.
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                          • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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                            Why does America's health have to be revenue neutral but war does not? Why not close corporate tax loopholes and raise taxes on the 1% who horde 90% of our wealth to pay for our health right here at home?
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                            • Author by starkcr31 (October 20, 2009 11:22 am ET)
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                              You're right, let's raise taxes on the successful people. That's the solution to everything.
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                              • Author by roundhouse (October 20, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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                                After getting smacked down yesterday for having no principled stand on Republicans accepting stimulus money and Rush's lack of responsibility, I see you have come back for more abuse, hypocrite.

                                Yes, taxing the wealthy and closing massive corporate tax loopholes does solve problems. For decades until, Reagan came along and cut sweet heart tax deals for his corporatist pals, we had the greatest middle class in the history of the world due to the fact that the wealthy were not permitted to control a disproportionate chunk of our nation's wealth.

                                The simple truth is those who are more successful in America benefit more from our commons. Because, like it or not, wealth is not merely a station to acquire, it's not a means to an end. With great wealth comes great responsibility. Nobody makes it on their own, they have had help from those around them every step of the way. They have obligations to see their country succeed.

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                                • Author by starkcr31 (October 20, 2009 2:18 pm ET)
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                                  Closing tax loopholes IS a good idea, but taxing someone for simply working hard and making good money is ridiculous.

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                                  • Author by foghornleghorn (October 21, 2009 7:01 pm ET)
                                       
                                    What will it take to make you understand that most of the rich people in this country DO NOT WORK HARD?

                                    They benefit from the hard work OF OTHERS.

                                    Gosh, you're dense.
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                      • Author by juliajayne1 (October 19, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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                        Yes, Paul Krugman has said the stimulus needed to be bigger.

                        It's been estimtated in fact, that the job loss would be roughly doube, according to the EPI, had the stimulus not been put in place.
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                    • Author by DellDolly (October 19, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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                      No, actually, Obama didn't say that unemployment would stay under 10% with the stimulus bill. That was an initial estimate that changed once they got the 4th quarter results in that showed how bad 2008 ended up.

                      And there is plenty of evidence that we would be in a Depression, costing our economy, and therefore all of us, a TON of money, if the stimulus bill hadn't been passed.
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            • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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              This isn't about liberalism v. conservatism, stalker. It's about a loudmouthed, racist radio DJ who wanted to buy a football team. His bid was objected to by NFL owners, coaches and players and his fellow investors dropped him. This is about Rush Limbaugh taking responsibility for his own actions instead trying to blame his failure on political ideology. It's about RUSH and his mouth, that's all.

              As for the mess we are in . . . sorry, but the problems with our economy started several years ago . . . the unemployment rate started climbing in December 2007. A stimulus plan would have been unnecessary if there hadn't been such a freaking mess made by 8 years of Bush and his rubber stamp Congress. Simply fact. BTW, you are aware that all those folks who were complaining about the "pork" [very little in the bill, actually] had their own "pork" in the stimulus bill, right?

              Again, this is about Rush and his mouth. He did himself in with his racist, derogatory terms used about the black NFL players. Had nothing to do with his alleged political ideology. Just his mouth.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
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                The key word you used is "started". Yes, they did start years ago but they are now being made much worse by the current administration.
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                • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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                  So...what? You expect Obama to wave a magic wand and fix everything within his first 9 months in office? You know, you conservatives are always claiming that Obama is the liberal's "messiah", but you guys seem to be the ones expecting him to have divine powers, and then ragging on him when he doesn't live up to your super-human standards.

                  But back to the topic at hand. It's bad business for a team to have a high-profile, controversial owner. This became obvious when there was backlash to his bid. The other investors realized it would be bad for business, and dropped him. End of story. To suggest that Obama had something to do with it is ridiculous.

                  Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences for what you say. Rush has the right to spew whatever he likes, but that doesn't mean he won't have to deal with the fallout. Now he's dealing with the fall out. Boo-hoo, the multi-millionaire won't get to be part-owner of a football team. What a sad, sad story.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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                    Wasn't this amazing stimulus package supposed to help the economy? Is it doing that? No? I rest my case.
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                    • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
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                      Well, you just lost the jury, stalker. Your case is flawed and most juries would give you the big thumbs down. The preponderance of the evidence is against you.

                      And, as Ruby said, get back to the topic at hand. This is about Rush not being able to accept that it was HIS actions which snatched his dream away from him. He has to blame it on someone else or he has to blame it on those gosh-darned old liberals. He cannot accept the fact that it was his MOUTH which caused his woes.

                      [Nice try at deflection, though.]
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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                        I only got off the topic because you did. I was referring to a specific point in your post.
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                        • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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                          Actually, no, stalker, I never mentioned the stimulus until you brought it up. Please look at your post

                          "Yeah because the liberals NEVER do that. I mean, it's not like you blame Bush for everything that's wrong with the economy or anything. The $1 trillion stimulus package that was spent on pork had nothing to do with it."

                          This article isn't about our economy, it's about Rush's inability to accept responsibility for his own actions. He is trying really, really hard to make his racist mouth a political ideological argument.

                          As I said, nice try at deflection, but the article is about Rush's problems with his mouth.
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                    • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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                      Who said the stimulus package was amazing? Also, did anyone say it was magic? Because any piece of legislation that could get the economy to take a 180 degree turn in a matter of months would be nothing short of magical.

                      And, as another commenter pointed out, many economists have stated that, without the stimulus package, we'd be in much worse shape than we are today.

                      I live in Louisiana, and I know that stimulus money has created jobs in this state. I also know that our Governor, Bobby Jindal, who railed against the stimulus package before and after it was passed, has been having a grand ol' time passing out giant novelty checks of stimulus money and requesting stimulus funds for a high-speed railway from New Orleans to Baton Rouge. Now, I'm all in favor of the railway, I think it would do wonderful things for the economy of both BR and NOLA, but I do think Mr. Jindal's actions (which are quite similar to the actions of many prominent republicans who violently resisted the stimulus package) are a bit hypocritical. He is certainly reaping the benefits from a piece of legislation he
                      vehemently and loudly opposed. And I suppose it's perfectly fine with me for him to be a hypocrite, as long as the people of Louisiana are benefitting, but what I'm trying to demonstrate to you is that many of the people who were so publicly against the stimulus, are now finding things to put that money into, which can be beneficial to the economy.

                      Most importantly, this crisis didn't happen overnight, and thus it will not be repaired overnight. If we're in worse shape halfway through Obama's first term than we were at the beginning, then I'll become a critic.

                      But really, can we get back to what we're supposed to be talking about here? Which is Rush's failed bid.

                      Now, stark, even you have to agree that Rush is a controversial figure, and he simply wouldn't be good for the team as an owner. And I know you will also agree that even though we have freedom of speech, we must also be prepared to face the consequences of what we say. Rush is no facing the consequences. He has said many, many controversial things and thus, this makes him a less-than-ideal owner for an NFL team. End of story. Right, stark?
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                • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 12:57 pm ET)
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                  So, Obama's going to be a magician and clean up a GINORMOUS 8 year long mess made by Bush [his lifelong MO, BTW] in 9 months? Actually, according to most economists [except those who appear on Fox], the recession would have been much worse and the unemployment much higher without the stimulus plan. Most of them said it should have actually been bigger.

                  Try getting your news from another source besides Rush and Fox.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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                    No, he's not supposed to fix it, but is it too much to ask that he not make it worse?
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                    • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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                      He's not, stalker. Watch REAL news for a change.
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                      • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
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                        I see, so I'm imagining that unemployment is rising?
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                        • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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                          Unemployment is not indicative of the state of the entire economy. The economy can be recovering, even as unemployment rises.

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                          • Author by starkcr31 (October 19, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
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                            I realize it's not the only indicator, but there are plenty of other indications that the economy is worsening.

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                            • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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                              Such as....?

                              The Dow rising above 10,000 for the first time in a year, maybe? Is that an indicator that the economy is worsening?

                              What are these other indications?
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                          • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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                            Exactly.
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                  • Author by Diosnomeama (October 19, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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                    I'm with you on the fact that Bush helped create this situation, but it seems like most everybody whitewashes away Clinton being the one who started the ball rolling.
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                    • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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                      Not really. See, when Bush took over we had a budget surplus.
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                    • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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                      Oh, and I never voted for Clinton, so I have no dog in that fight.
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                      • Author by Diosnomeama (October 20, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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                        So? What does your voting or not voting for Clinton have to do with anything? Do you only have opinions on officials that you voted for?
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                    • Author by DellDolly (October 19, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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                      Clinton didn't start the ball rolling. You're wrong, and listening to biased sources that don't give you full and fair information upon which to make judgments.
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                      • Author by Diosnomeama (October 19, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
                           
                        Signing the repeal of Glass Steagall was a step in the wrong direction and is in part why we are in the situation we're in today. I don't blame Clinton entirely by any means, he was just the beginning. Bush gets his share for turning a blind eye when things started getting really bad, and Obama has to clean it up so I am going to withhold judgment on him until I see the full effect of the stimulus. Also, please don't imply that you know what sources a random stranger uses to obtain information, and whether they are biased(or not).
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (October 20, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
                             
                          I never voted for Clinton, either. Although, I would vote for him today. Please explain how the Glass Steagall act is all Clinton's fault.
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                          • Author by Diosnomeama (October 20, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
                               
                            Please point out the part where I said that. I said, SIGNING the repeal into law was his fault. Clinton and Bush both own a share of the responsibility, nowhere in my post did I say that anything was all anyone's fault entirely.
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                      • Author by Tiredog (October 19, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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                        Sounds like FOX!
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          • Author by usp (October 19, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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            that's just not right in light of the fact that it "clearly" was obama's fault.
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      • Author by rms (October 19, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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        Um, Stark old boy, the Commissioner made no DECISION in this whole overblown situation. Can't you accept the fact that Rush may have, by his comments, made an "enemy" of one or two people over his many years pontificating from on high? Maybe he has said one or two things that may be considered, say, divisive? You think??????
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      • Author by srichardson (October 19, 2009 10:58 am ET)
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        How is it clear the commissioner is linked to Obama? Because Fox says he is? The commish know Eric Holder, who is a member of Obama's cabinet. That doesn't make them buddies. And Rush lost the bid bc he says rude hateful things about people and it has finally caught up with him. Limbaugh's ego is so bruised he can't let it go so he has to make it out to be much more than it is. Now it's a conspiracy, Obama is out to get him. It's the liberals vs the conservatives. Why can't it just be about people not wanting to be associated with a hate monger? And anyone who says with a straight face that Limbaugh doesn't spew hate on a daily basis needs to check their value system.
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      • Author by peace4all (October 19, 2009 11:01 am ET)
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        the commissioner is also a Religious man with religious beliefs. so if he is connected to God in any way, (which he clearly is) it's possible that he made his decision gor religious reasons.

        see, i can do it too
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      • Author by Ruby (October 19, 2009 11:06 am ET)
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        The team didn't want Rush as an owner, and for good reason.

        As I pointed out earlier, it's not good for a team to have a high-profile and controversial owner. It's simply bad business.
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      • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 11:51 am ET)
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        Right. A conservative gets shut out of a business deal and it's political. A liberal gets shut out of a business deal and it's good business.
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      • Author by steveanders_62273 (October 19, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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        Actually the commisioner is a Republican and his wife was in teh Bush Adnministartion. Try again.
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        • Author by steveanders_62273 (October 19, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
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          Please excuse my error. Godell's wife is Jane Skinner, areporter with Fox News, and her father is Sam Skinner from GHW Bush's administration.
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      • Author by usp (October 19, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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        the commissioner is 'clearly connected' to obama? what? do they hang out and shoot hoops together? gimme a break dofus.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (October 19, 2009 10:17 pm ET)
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        The commissioner's wife works for Fuchs Noose.
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      • Author by sleepy joe (October 20, 2009 3:37 pm ET)
           
        "How is this baseless? The commissioner has his political beliefs and if he is connected to Obama in some way (which he clearly is), it's easily possible that he made his decision for political reasons."

        It's quite simple. The commish wasn't the one that booted him.
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    • Author by rms (October 19, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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      Just because you are paranoid, Rush, doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you!!
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    • Author by pam95650 (October 19, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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      It was Limbaugh's bigger-than-his-mouth ego that killed his chances, not Obama's.
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    • Author by roundhouse (October 19, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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      Waahh. It wasn't Obama. Karma can be a b***h, Rush.
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    • Author by peppanicky (October 19, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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      Obama the supreme Maoist and his shill Sharpton are teaching us all how it should be, right!

      Right on Anita Dunn! Right on Van Jones!

      All whites are racist unless they are progressive liberals!

      Obama should suppress Fox news and Rush Limbaugh!


      The above is sarcasm if you lemmings couldn't tell.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 19, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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        It's not really sarcasm. More like regurgitation of bullsh!t from a Dittobot zombie.I'm going to have to confiscate your sarcasm learner's permit..
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      • Author by bintx (October 19, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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        Good honk! I'm not sure I'd be talking about folks being lemmings with the load of BS you just posted above! LOL!
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    • Author by slowtyper (October 19, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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      so i wonder if the limpburger is seeing little white bugs crawling all over his skin too..his delusions are getting more detailed and complex..back to rehab rush..
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    • Author by BreJ (October 19, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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      I don't know but I think Rush could finally be on to something!
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 19, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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        I don't know but I think Rush could finally be on to something!

        No, just "on something" again.
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    • Author by newzhound (October 19, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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      Mr. Obama is much too smart to do such a thing. This ill-fated venture was destined to implode. Anyone interested in seeing Boss BlunderRuss torpedo'd simply had to sit back and watch it happen.

      Remember when Sen. Joe Liberman was close to being kicked out of the Democratic caucus in the Senate? Mr. Obama wasn't interested in making Mr. Liberman into a victim, letting him run to the nearing tv camera and start to whine about his ill-treatment.

      Mr. Obama simply said "Leave him alone." And that worked out just fine.

      Boss BlunderRush finally feels what it's like to have his character assulted. Unlike his own attacks, of course, this charge was fact-based. And it worked. And BlunderRush proves to be quite the cry baby - no surprise, there. Bullies are all cowards.
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    • Author by lede39571545 (October 19, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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      Rush, your friend Elizabeth Hasselbeck said on The View today that you had spoken out against the NFL...the Donovan McNair issue...and that was perhaps the reason the major and minority owners said no to you. If what she said is true, take it like a man Rush and stop the projection. Your mouth is coming back to haunt you....
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    • Author by Sara Bellum (October 19, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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      Oh FFS! I think Rush is losing it. He's so convinced that its Obama's America now that anything that doesnt go his way or any thing that goes wrong in his eyes is Obama's fault.

      I'm so sick of this windbag!

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    • Author by peppanicky (October 19, 2009 1:57 pm ET)
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      Is Limbaugh a racist? Not mine to judge. Is he an example of a successful political commentator / entertainer worth 100's of millions of dollars? Absolutely. I would name any liberal talk show hosts with his $$ worth...but they don't exist.

      My point is that his listening audience represents a large portion of the nation. Are they all "racist"? Hmmm...

      The group decided to not include him in the bid because of politically correct nature of our society. Period.

      Like most successful businessmen Rush will probably move on to another venture and continue to make large sums of money on our free market.
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      • Author by atum (October 19, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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        Limbaugh clearly has no one to thank for this mess except hiself. If you dont consider his comments racist in nature, than surely you acknowledge that they are contriversial to say the least. It has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with a calculated business move. Among his supporters, he may be right on the money as far as THEY are concerned, but to the other 280 million people (assuming he has an audience as large as 20 million, which I dont think he does) in the US, he is a disgusting, polarizing figure. Thats exactly the opposite to the image the nfl has courted through the years.
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      • Author by right ON (October 19, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
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        Whatever the reason the NFL rejected Limbaugh is their own business. He should stop his pathetic whimpering blame game and accept it. If they want a purely political-free zone with regard to their owners, then they can. With Limbaugh wallowing in his self-pity and pointing fingers at everyone except himself, he just looks like a fool. He should grow up.
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      • Author by right ON (October 19, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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        As for whether or not Limbaugh is a racist and to your mention of it not being yours to judge, that is also your business. But Limbaugh spends three hours a day spewing and blustering out judgments all day long, so he shouldn't shrink away from a little of it coming back at him as well, and those who choose to judge him shouldn't be reviled because they give Rush some of his own medicine. He gets what he dishes out. Women and men who own their words and actions accept that.
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      • Author by trux (October 19, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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        This really is much more simple than all are making it out to be. Rush Limbaugh is a huge ahole. I am not sure how people listen to his anger for more than 5 straight minutes. Life is too short to be this hateful towards anything. But anyway I am sure there are other aholes that own NFL franchises but they don't make a point of proving how much of one they are every single day of the week for 3 hours. Think about this, I would guarantee you that 99 percent of nfl owners are dyed in the wool republicans and they still did not want his money. Whether people agree with Limbaugh's views or not is not the point and it is not about PC awareness, it is about not wanting a loud mouth angry windbag in your group. That's it. No Obama, or links to Obama or fear of being incorrect. Rush simply doesn't deserve the privilege because of how he behaves.
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    • Author by MRF (October 19, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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      Rush Limbaugh buying a share in an NFL team is akin to Father Coughlin purchasing a share of the Brooklyn Dodgers in the 1940's.

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    • Author by pilotx (October 19, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
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      So looks like Rush was rejected from both sides of the ideological spectrum. The commish and the head of the players' union. I've said it before, if Rush REALLY wants to own an NFL team he should buy a minor league team such as an arena team (maybe the Chicago Rush?) talk only sports for the next few years and avoid controversy. Or is he a quitter?
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    • Author by jcalton (October 20, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
         
      Rush may be pushing it a little bit, here. There are bound to be some of his lapdogs that really like football and know a lot about it, even on the business side. When two things they love (football and hating liberals the ditto way) come into conflict, they may rule in favor of common sense. For once.
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