Fox & Friends cites year-old poll to claim its audience is "more balanced," but more recent poll shows the opposite
Fox & Friends hosts Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson, and Brian Kilmeade cited a year-old Pew Research Center survey to misleadingly suggest that Fox News' audience is "more balanced" between Republicans and Democrats than CNN and MSNBC, and an on-screen graphic falsely claimed that the report found that Fox News "has most unbiased coverage." In fact, similar to numerous other surveys that show that Fox's viewership skews to the right, a Pew Research Center survey from September shows that more than three times as many Republicans as Democrats consider Fox News to be their main source of news; additionally, the Pew survey Fox & Friends cited made no assessment of the slant of Fox's coverage.
Fox & Friends says study shows Fox News has a "more balanced" audience than other cable nets, has "most unbiased coverage"
Fox & Friends: "[O]ur audience really is more balanced than the other two news networks." From the October 21 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
KILMEADE: Hey, let's take a look at what the Pew Research study shows about Fox News coverage -- Pew Research not an arm of Fox News. Let's check this out. Who's watching us right now? Well, 39 percent of you are Republicans, 33 percent are Democrats, and 22 percent are independent. CNN, 18, 51, 23. That's Republican, Democrat. Fifty-one percent of CNN's audience is Democrat. Twenty-three is independent. On MSNBC, 18 percent -- the same as CNN -- are Republican, 45 Democrat, and 27 percent are independent.
DOOCY: Right. The point is, as you can see, we've got -- we've got in the 30s the number of Republicans and Democrats watching and in the 20s. And then at CNN they've got teens when it comes to Republicans. So our audience really is more balanced than the other two news networks.
On-screen graphic claimed report showed Fox News "has most unbiased coverage":
Survey is a year old and did not assess whether Fox News' coverage was "unbiased"
Pew survey that hosts cited is from August 2008. The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press released a survey on August 17, 2008, showing that while MSNBC and CNN tended to attract more Democratic viewers, the "regular audience for the Fox News Channel continues to include more Republicans than Democrats. Currently, 39% of regular Fox News viewers are Republicans while 33% are Democrats; in 2006, the margin was 38% to 31%." From the survey:
Report did not assess slant of news coverage. The report focused on "audience segments in a changing news environment" and respondents' news consumption. It did not address the news content or reporting of any media outlet.
Recent Pew Research Center survey shows Fox News viewership is more partisan
Pew: Fox audience "includes a larger share of Republicans than do the audiences for other news outlets." The Pew Research Center released a survey on September 13 that found that the Fox News audience "includes a larger share of Republicans than do the audiences for other news outlets." The survey found: "More than three times as many Republicans (34%) as Democrats (10%) say they get most of their national and international news from Fox. By comparison, Democrats are more than twice as likely than Republicans to cite CNN (29% vs. 13%). A similar pattern is evident for MSNBC, with more Democrats (9%) than Republicans (3%) citing it as a main news source." Nineteen percent of independents said they get most of their national and international news from Fox. From the poll:
Other polls: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly favored McCain, Bush; larger share are Republicans
Rasmussen: 87 percent of Fox viewers favored McCain. An August 6, 2008, Rasmussen Reports poll found: "Eighty-seven percent (87%) of Fox News viewers say they are likely to vote for John McCain" and "[o]nly nine percent of those who watch Fox News say they will vote for Obama." Fox News partnered with Rasmussen Reports for polling during the 2008 elections on numerous state polls.
Pollster Mellman: Fox viewers supported Bush over Kerry 88 percent to 7 percent. In a March 20, 2007, The Hill op-ed, Democratic pollster Mark Mellman wrote that "in our 2004 polling with Media Vote, using Nielsen diaries, we found that Fox News viewers supported George Bush over John Kerry by 88 percent to 7 percent. No demographic segment, other than Republicans, was as united in supporting Bush. Conservatives, white evangelical Christians, gun owners, and supporters of the Iraq war all gave Bush fewer votes than did regular Fox News viewers."
Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll: 68 percent of Democrats never get their news from Fox News. A Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll conducted from August 3-6 found that 38 percent of Republicans "never" get their news from Fox News; by contrast, 74 percent of Republicans "never" get their news from CNN, and 89 percent "never" get their news from MSNBC. Sixty-eight percent of Democrats never get their news from Fox News, 37 percent never get their news from CNN, and 53 percent never get their news from MSNBC.
When do you stop plugging your ears and saying "La, la, la, la. I can't hear you!" and start holding your party and your ideology accountable in the way Democrats or liberals or progressives or commie pinko traitors -- whatever perjorative you're likely to throw my way -- do President Obama? Because, if you haven't noticed, tossing out the weird conspiracy theory garbage coming from Fox, Obama's getting hammered by his political base for a variety of policy issues in a way Republican presidents never have been by theirs. Unlike the right, the left holds their leaders accountable, and we're pretty damn vocal and polyvalent about it.
Thanks,
Tom
GOP Party Identification Slips Nationwide and in Pennsylvania
Maybe there are more recent numbers but I don't have them at the moment.
ABC News/Washington Post poll that just came out yesterday told us this. Why would you assume that someone was misleading with that figure instead of assuming that they knew what they were talking about, since you clearly DIDN'T know the facts?
I have yet to hear anyone from the left, on this site, say 1 detrimental thing about Obama, or his policies.
"Unlike the right, the left holds their leaders accountable, and we're pretty damn vocal and polyvalent about it."
That either means;
(1) You're lying
(2) You don't have a grasp on reality, or
(3) You think everything he's done is just wonderful (see item #2)
I must admit though, you really know how to throw out those big words that have no meaning; (polyvalent? A chemistry term?)
Are you just trying to confuse us stoopid conservatives?
Top that off with the fact that this is not the site nor a format that leads to many complaints by lefties about Obama, and your strawman has been kicked to the curb.
So, the poster was 100% right in saying that unlike your side, we hold our leaders accountable and we complain when they mess up.
Everyone has heard the term, "formula for success".
I have a formula for disappointment that Obama has been using lately: Promises + Not Kept = Disappointment
But, I applied that to pushing for the public option. Which when passed, will be a major disappointment to the party of stupid - the Republicans.
Holding leaders accountable, that lying, torturing war monger had eight years, you held him accountable didnt you. You right wingers hide behind the robes of religion, go to church on Sunday and spout your minority one eyed, myopic views, go and see the real world, have a look at the starving, the dying, the persecuted, the poor, give us a break. Redemption is coming for you lot.
Now, on to your straw man. You haven't heard anyone from the left on this site go after Obama. That's because this is a site explicitly tasked with conservative misinformation. But every major lefty commentator in the country has a bone to pick with President Obama over some disappointment, or other. Hell, the newspapers get all aflutter at least once a month about Obama alienating his base on healthcare, Afghanistan, Don't Ask-Don't Tell, gay marriage, ad infinitum. You aren't seeing that? Cuz, if you're not, you're just flat out blind, either congenitally or willfully.
That either means;
(1) You're lying
(2) You don't have a grasp on reality, or
(3) You think everything he's done is just wonderful (see item #2)
None of the above. Here's your answer:
(4) You, EZ4you2say, are willfully not seeing it (as others have proven above)
I must admit though, you really know how to throw out those big words that have no meaning; (polyvalent? A chemistry term?)
It would, of course, have been wiser for you to look up the meaning of the word and thus profit from having learned something. That you avoided that simple task and merely claimed, from your own no doubt immense linguistic knowledge, that the word has no meaning, says a great deal about your mind-set. Or, to put it in simpler terms, you're lazy and you're an idiot.
Are you just trying to confuse us stoopid conservatives?
There's hardly any need for that; you come confused enough. It would be like adding salt to Frito's.
So, I stand by my statement.
Fox newspeople and commentators have stated on theh air many times from the election to now that their job is to oppose Democrats,Liberals and especially this administration.I don't know why this is even controversial.They have already self-indentified themselves this way.So THEY are not doing news ..they are doing opinions and pushing poltical agendas but play real loose with facts.Remember how they played in April '09 a clip of VPres Biden saying "The basics of the Economy are still sound" to refute the Administration's push for the Stimulus bill.It turned out to be a cropped clip from September '08 of Candidate Biden quoting Candidate McCain who had actually said the economy was sound. A poor job of making up something so easily refuted but they do it all the time and don't apologize for it!!!They are totally not journalists!!! How about the tape of an Acorn worker confessing to murder ..real good vetting on that one!!
A. Four. Defining a tail as a leg doesn't make it one.
And why is it always about 'winning'? Gotta be us vs. them to make you comfortable, doesn't it?
I am not an american and can see that you are. ironic dont you think
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That says far more about the Democratic and Republican viewers themselves than it does about Fox or their media competitors.
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And, as expected, it doesn't say much for the Republicans.
Tom
And yeah, an argument that makes your side look bad? Of course it's useless. Thanks, but no thanks, we don't need no stinkin' concern trolls 'round here.
During one show in February or March of this year the topic was the economy, and during the first half there were two Republicans - no opposing voice - trashing Obama. When the show was turned over to the panel that day, well, you can predict the tone of the comments, in a 4-to-1 ratio.
At that point it ceased to be amusing and went from mostly joke to being a total joke. I haven't watched since.
That's what Fox needs to be afraid of, even their old fearful audience is starting to notice the stench.
It's rather silly to interpret normal approval number trends as a sign that people are coming around to your way of seeing things.
But now, you'd call me a far left-wing radical.
Sigh. Now you hurt my feelings.
Well, if you think "moral values" is a valid political position, you must be a right-wing extremist.
If you think "Intelligent Design" is science, you must be a right-wing extremist.
If you think this country should be the United States for Jesus, you must be a right-wing extremist.
If you think anthropogenic climate change is a myth, you must be a right-wing extremist.
If you are a right-wing extremist, then by your standards, yes, I am a left-wing extremist.
Don't forget it's also aimed at the adults with the IQ of a child, in other words, people who are easily scared.
by foghornleghorn (October 15, 2009 6:55 pm ET)
The difference is, the muslim extremists are overseas. The nutjob christian extremists live next door. I'm more worried about the Jesus freaks than the Mohammed freaks.
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Using these numbers at face value, a recent poll shows 20% GOP identification, and 33% Dem. Thus, democrats are on a 1 to 1 ration with the population in watching Fox while Repubs are on a 2 to 1 ration. Balanced? HA.
But I think people generally get confused between what is considered "biased", compared to lying in the media. Bias is where a person tends to slant things to their view either by omission of key facts, or over-emphasis of irrelevant topics. Lying is just making it up to "prove" a point.
Example of a Fox lie: http://mediamatters.org/research/200908150006
If any Fox supporters out there can show a consistent pattern of lies from CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, or CBS, please send us your links.
I'm sure MMFA wouldn't mind posting some media lies from any side.
I don't like lies, no matter who promotes them.
It just seems that Fox is doing a good job of making things up lately.
The White House did send out unsolicited emails. They even admitted it.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26169.html#
Garrett brought up the list first. It was in the original video which CNN also telecast. I watched the exchange myself when it was live.
Then Garrett claimed that Gibbs, not he, brought up the list first.
And when Fox replayed the video, viola! The exchange was edited to make it look like Gibbs brought it up.
Of course Garrett's point was, "Hey, I was just asking an innocent question, when Gibbs drops this list thing out of the blue!"
Of course, if that was his point, Fox wouldn't dare show a video proving him wrong.
He lied. Plain as day. He's a twit.
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/08/fox-news-major-garrett-has-heated.html
You can clearly hear Garrett use the word "list" before Gibbs.
Sorry to burst your comfort bubble about Fox.
Still waiting for examples of other networks doing this.
No Fox-huggers out there willing to take on my challenge?
Post examples of consistent lying from the other media outlets.
It's simple. But, apparently a bit of a chore for Fox-huggers.
Perhaps you are willing to take the challenge, then?
Post examples of consistent lying from the other media outlets.
Come on. It can't be that hard, since you think the "liberal" media outlets lie all the time, right?
We wait for your posts.
Perhaps you are willing to take the challenge, then?
Post examples of consistent lying from the other media outlets.
Come on. It can't be that hard, since you think the "liberal" media outlets lie all the time, right?
We wait for your posts.
Get your fat welfare butts off the couch, pay your taxes and work like real Americans.
Who are you talking about? Individuals, or corporate-welfare recipients?
Corporations complain about how high the corporate taxes are here in the US, but only pay 20% to 25% - right in line with the rest of the world. Did you know that? Probably not, because Fox-huggers get the distorted version - paid for by, who else - corporations. Corporations (Fox among them) are the biggest welfare frauds - they don't pay their fair share of taxes & get your Congressman to give them all the breaks - at your expense. You pay for them.
The right is so gullible, they'll fall for anything. Get real.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122653707274922763.html
http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.nsf/Articles/9B96723BDBA236078525744B0060BAFA?OpenDocument
http://www.smartmoney.com/investing/economy/high-corporate-tax-rate-is-misleading-22463/
Methinks thou doth protest too much.