Beck, conservative media use violent rhetoric suggesting White House will retaliate against Fox News and opponents
Following the White House's recent criticism of Fox News for its conservative slant, Glenn Beck and other conservative media have fearmongered that the Obama administration will harm Fox News and its supporters -- physically or otherwise -- because of their opposition to its policies. Since September alone, Beck has asked listeners to "pray for protection," compared Fox News to Jews during the Holocaust, and suggested the White House was pointing missiles at Fox News, and Newt Gingrich asked on Hannity if the administration would subject Fox News commentators to the Chinese "Cultural Revolution" because of their objections.
Beck, conservative media suggest Fox News and opponents are in danger from White House
Beck compares Fox News to Jews during the Holocaust, other news organizations to silent bystanders. On his October 13 radio show, Beck said: "When they're done with Fox, and you decide to speak out on something. The old, 'first they came for the Jews, and I wasn't Jewish.' When you have a question, and you believe that something should be asked, they're a -- totally fine with you right now; they have no problem with you. When they're done with Fox and talk radio, do you really think they're going to leave you alone if you want to ask a tough question? Do you really think that a man who has never had to stand against tough questions and has as much power as he does -- do you really believe after he takes out the number one news network, do you really think that this man is then not going to turn on you? That you and your little organization is going to cause him any hesitation at all not to take you out?" [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 10/13/09]
Beck airs anonymous "concerned parent" with distorted face, voice to attack Obama adviser's reference to Mao. After White House communications director Anita Dunn said during a speech at a Maryland high school that Mao Zedong was one of her "favorite political philosophers," Beck hosted a "concerned parent" to speak about the comment, but distorted his voice and shaded his face. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 10/19/09]
Gingrich -- who previously quoted Mao -- wonders if Dunn wants to subject Fox commentators to a "Cultural Revolution." On the October 19 edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity asked Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich: "What do you make about the White House's orchestrated, continued attacks on the Fox News Channel, led by Anita Dunn, who has great admiration for, quote, 'one of her philosophers' -- you know, one of the biggest mass-murderers in the history of mankind, Mao? And more importantly, do you view this as an enemies list?" Gingrich replied that he "ha[s] this interesting idea of asking Anita Dunn if this is her idea of a Cultural Revolution, and if she really wishes that she could get Sean Hannity and the other Fox commentators to go to a farm and work the way Mao got sent the intellectuals out," adding that he believes in a "free society." [Hannity, 10/19/09]
Rove: "[T]hey're going to come hard at you, and they're going to cut your legs off." On the October 18 edition of Fox News Sunday, Fox News contributor Karl Rove said: "[T]his is an administration that's getting very arrogant and slippery in its dealings with people. And if you dare to oppose them, they're going to come hard at you, and they're going to cut your legs off. ... Fox is asking tough questions. Fox has got on the opinion side of it some very tough critics of the administration. They're conflating the news side and the opinion side in order to -- in order to attack a media outlet. Again, it's undignified for the president of the United States to be doing." Later, Rove said that "it is demeaning the office of the president by taking the president and moving him from a person who ought to be talking to everybody and communicating through every available channel to saying, 'If you oppose me, if you question me, if you're too tough on me, by gosh, me and my people are not going to -- are not going to come on. We're going to penalize you.' And that just is wrong, fundamentally wrong."
Fox News hosts suggest they're on an "enemies list." Fox News personalities joined other conservative media figures in fearmongering that the White House has an "enemies list" and that Fox News is -- in Beck's words -- "another enemy" that "warmongers" in the Obama administration would fight with "missiles pointed right at Fox." Hannity claimed the White House is "promising retribution." Media figures previously baselessly suggested that people who reportedly claimed to have received unsolicited email from Obama adviser David Axelrod may have been added to a White House "enemies list" after emails they sent that were critical of the Obama administration were purportedly forwarded to flag@whitehouse.gov.
Beck, other conservatives routinely suggest that the White House will retaliate against opposition with violence
Beck: "Just pray for protection, please." On his radio show, Beck told his listeners he is "fighting for you and ... your children" and asked them to "pray" for "safety" and "protection":
BECK: You know, I said a year ago -- I said you needed to find your voice. And I said I think you'll -- we're coming to a time when voices like mine will disappear. It would be easy to say, "Yeah. Yeah. Look at -- Van Jones is out." Which I think is a mistake, because I think it makes him more dangerous, and I'll explain why here in a second.
But the other thing is -- is I find myself in amazing position. John Podesta just issued a statement about Van Jones and me. There is Soros money now being funneled to stop me. The biggest names, the most powerful people on the planet on the left -- I've told you before, they're not going to go away easy. There were billions of dollars, if not trillions of dollars, at stake. There is -- this is the, you know, if anybody wants to think this as a game about, you know, get him fired and get him fired and slow the White House down because it's a Republican thing, you're sadly mistaken.
This game is for keeps. This is who controls the United States of America and its destiny. Is it you? Or is it a group of elites? I'm fighting for you and me, my children, your children. I would ask you for one thing. Please, keep me in your prayers, keep my staff in your prayers, for safety, for wisdom, please. I'm asking you. Because I -- I just will tell you, as I have before, we have the truth on our side; we also have God on our side. If you believe the founders were divinely inspired, well, with firm reliance on divine providence we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Just pray for protection, please. [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/08/09]
Beck on Imus: "If I'm found dead in the streets, it's either Van Jones or Don Imus." During an appearance on Fox Business' Imus In the Morning, Beck -- making an apparent reference to his witch hunt against White House advisers including Van Jones -- said, "If I'm found dead in the streets, it's either Van Jones or Don Imus." [Imus In the Morning, 10/5/09]
Beck invokes civil rights marchers having fire hoses turned on them to spur opposition to health reform. During his Fox News show, Beck said, "America, let me tell you something. If you don't stop this, they will -- as Bill Maher has suggested -- drag you to it. It's exactly what they're trying to do." Then, showing images of civil rights protesters being blasted with water from fire hoses, he said: "Nobody wants the health care plan, and yet, they're still doing it. We must try. We must now peacefully stand up and stand together -- and I do mean peacefully. I mean, just like these guys did. Can you show -- can you show them? These guys, they were standing up peacefully. Otherwise, they will drag us into their brainiac policies through an emergency. If you don't stand up, they will -- using their Cloward and Piven strategy from the 1960s -- collapse this country and our financial system, and then reboot with their new America." [Glenn Beck, 10/14/09]
Beck: "I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on." During an interview with Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal Communication Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced. God help us all.'' [Newsmax.com, 10/7/09]
Beck: They're "out to get" me, "destroy me," "Sarah Palin me," to "intimidate you." On his radio show, Beck said: "It's only a matter of time before they find a way to destroy me. And that's fine. And they're going to try to use me to intimidate you. Because anybody else gets out of line, that'll happen to you, too. Don't think that what happened to Sarah Palin didn't go through my mind when I saw my character on Saturday Night Live, and we all laughed, and my wife said, 'My gosh, they have you down. I mean, that is really -- I mean, even your mannerisms and your moves.' Don't think that I didn't feel like, 'Oh, my gosh, they're going to Sarah Palin me.' That's what they want you to understand. You get out of line, we'll destroy you." Later, Beck said that he's "tired" of "the thought of someone always constantly out to get you," and then said he "can't go out in public with [his] family anymore." [The Glenn Beck Program, 10/1/09]
Savage: Obama administration is "a cornered animal," and "something horrible could happen." On his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage said: "I don't know where this ends up. I'll tell you what worries me, is that -- is that you think that [Obama's] finished. That's your mistake. A cornered animal is very, very dangerous. This team -- team Obama -- is very cornered right now, and they're very dangerous -- very dangerous. Cornered animal -- dangerous. They're cornered right now. They've been outsmarted by North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, Russia. They have now been outsmarted by even the Olympic committee. I mean, even they know that the American people are on to them. So now they're in a corner. And don't think that they're quitters and don't think they're going to give up. Something -- something horrible could happen. You understand this? That's what the whole story is."















You can't push this attack Fox strategy and be a cheerleader for delegitimizing them and then whine about the "violent rhetoric" they are now using to fight back. It's what happens when you tangle with the likes of these people.
Cue Gomer Pyle:
Suprise, surprise!!
I suspect it has much more to do with a little delicious liberal payback to satisfy the collective hairs that stand up on their backs every time Fox increases their ratings. This is what happens when you let your emotions run rampant over your common sense. When Fox gets bigger ratings as a result of all this priceless publicity, what's your next strategy for bringing them down?
BTW, isn't referencing common sense flirting with Marxism?
Sometimes you have to use restraint and smarts to defeat the "opposition", and that is by understanding the consequences of what you are doing, not just how it feels.
It is the President's job to deliver on his campaign promises, to pass legislation. It becomes very difficult to pass legislation when the public is perpetually misinformed, and when the administration is constantly under attack by an organization with the kind of amplification Fox is able to muster, especially when the rest of the media is following Fox like lemmings off a cliff.
Therefore, it is the President's job to use his own megaphone to identify and hold accountable the offending party or parties, in this case Rupert Murdoch's Frankenstein. He is protecting his own prerogatives, by inoculating his administration from Fox's completely bogus crusade to bring it down.
The media is supposed to serve a very important function in a democracy. Fox News plays a dangerous game, manipulating and abusing its influence in our society for its own cynical purposes. And it's not just the money. Murdoch himself has decided on this scorched-earth philosophy. It is exceptionally dangerous to the very fabric of the Republic.
Obama has scored a knockout punch. Fox can no longer be viewed through the prism of its own alternate reality. Not by the other media organizations who have so eagerly taken their cues, and not by the public.
Great post, btw.
I guess that's how some people may choose to look at it. I suppose if you think the National Enquirer has been legitimized in their search for the werewolf.
And talk about a false equivalency:
Fox is a 24 hour "news" channel that spends the majority of its airtime attacking and/or attempting to undermine the adminisration. And on the other side, Anita Dunn made a comment about Fox not being a legitimate news organization. That's your "cat and mouse" game? The only time and effort being wasted on this is by the press who keep trying to turn it into a war.
They only cover news at the top and bottom of the hour, and continuously with chyrons, and this is where Fox News muddles things up.
http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2004/11/03/op_press.html
The Fox attack is nothing new.
Forth Estate, Fourth Estate !
Your statement is a strawman argument. No one has ever said that the Obama Administration shouldn't be challenged, dum-dum.
Fourth and Long, Fourth and Long!
The concern troll is worried that Fox might be legitimized.
That's funny!
I haven't seen either the White House or MMFA "whining" about the violent rhetoric.
But even if they are legitimately complaining about the violent rhetoric(not whining), the problem would be the violent rhetoric. FoxNews isn't justified as a result of the White House's actions to react that way!
Read the headline to this thread SnoozySuzy, MMfA is certainly "whining", and the WH probably will on the upcoming Sunday talk shows as that is their apparent strategy now, or did you just spout your kneejerk reaction without reading it?
Nobody is whining about the violent rhetoric, unless of course pointing something out all of a sudden is "whining".
Greta said the other night that Cheney attacked Obama for 'dithering' on decision to send troops to Afghanistan [actually she said "OUCH"]. Interesting that Greta NEVER mentioned how long Bush's General's request for MORE TROOPS was sitting on the Bush/Cheney desks.
Faux has Cheney's speech beforehand. Faux didn't refuse one statement made by Cheney. Is that possible??
The words 'facts' and 'faux' are disengenuous . .
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Documenting something is not equivalent to whining about something.
But since you seem unable to be consistent, you might think that a feeble, peevish, childish complaint is equivalent to supporting an assertion or claim with evidence or decisive information.
They aren't the same.
Now, your posts? Whining.
Can you imagine how the Bushies would have reacted if this had happened on their watch?
Roger Ailes is watching his investment $$'s grow like crazy.
Keep it up lefties, we love kickin' yer butts!
If The White Houe was really out to destroy Fox News they would toss commentator Ollie North in jail for Iran Contra, in cell next to Rove, Beck would be locked away wearing a straight jacket in a padded room and they would give Geraldo Rivera the go ahead to wear a tshirt displaying the Puerto Rican flag while he does his show
Was Beck's statement not analogous to comparing the WH's "threats" to genocide?
Do prayers for safety not suggest "violence?" Is Beck just really clumsy? Is that your explanation here?
What do "cornered animals" do in your opinion?
I can see how you and those who think similarly don't find this rhetoric "violent." After all, no one is a racist unless they directly use racial slurs, are they?
Define "violent rhetoric" for us, kydem, so we can understand where you are coming from.
Funny you mention reading between the lines. All of us do that with other commentators (i.e. Rush injecting race at every turn) and we're told by people like you that he's not a racist.
When should we read between the lines and when should things be literal? You can't have it both ways.
Then, answer these:
1) What is Beck doing by invoking the Jews in the Holocaust? If that is not a violent image, please tell me what it is. Once the Jews were "come for," what happened to them?
2)Why does Beck want prayers for protection?
3) What happened during 9/11 that wasn't violent?
4) What does a cornered animal do?
If these aren't examples of "violent rhetoric" please explain why.
"You consider this violent rhetoric? Gimme a break!"
I asked you to define violent rhetoric and you answered:
"There's nothing literal or otherwise included in the above quotes that I consider "violent." I think that's a stretch."
So, I asked you again to define the term "violent rhetoric." You said I took things out of context.
What was unfair and taken out of context. Please answer why the above questions do not suggest violent rhetoric so I can give you a "break."
Do cornered animals react violent or peacefully?
What happened when they came for the Jews?
Why would Beck want prayers for his safety?
Please be honest enough to have a discussion and not avoid easy questions.
When Rush sings "Barack the Magic Negro," liberals falsely say it's racist. But as kydem09 knows, it's actually just Rush's heartfelt way of tipping his fedora to uppity Negroes.
Hmmmmm, here are the lyrics, and its sung in a very stereotypical manner:
Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They’ll vote for him, and not for me
‘Cause he’s not from the hood.
See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically.
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically.
Some say Barack’s “articulate”
And bright and new and “clean.”
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper’s dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don’t be fooled!
Don’t vote the Magic Negro in –
‘Cause —
’Cause I won’t have nothing after all these years of sacrifice
And I won’t get justice. This is about justice. This isn’t about me, it’s about justice.
It’s about buffet. I don’t have no buffet and there won’t be any church contributions,
And there’ll be no cash in the collection plate.
There ain’t gonna be no cash money, no walkin’ around money, no phoning money.
Now, Barack going to come in here and ........
http://www.monacome.com/2008/12/barack-magic-negro-lyrics-video.html
I'm sure the stereotypical voice and bad grammar would be the same if they were singing about a white guy, eh?
If the song wasn't racist, why did Rush use bad grammar in his lyrics and use a stereotypical "black" voice?
Kydem, if you want to have an honest discussion, we can. If you want to throw cliches around, you can, but you look dishonest and not serious. Its really up to you.
If you don't see racism in the song, do you at least see race-baiting?
When you don't define the standards by which you are judging things (like when I asked for your definition of violent rhetoric, you said it was close to mine, but obviously, that's not true.), we can't discuss anything because you won't/can't explain the lens through which you see the world.
For that reason, I'll say a prayer for you.
Oh yeah...forgot...I'm a Democrat. Kick the liberals out and take back our Party. Liberals are not Democrats.
Time you caught on to the political manipulations they have successfully used against you, a well orchestrated campaign intended to convince the larger, slow-minded part of the population that the Robber Barons, then and now, really have your own happiness in mind when they oppose health-care at home or promote a war overseas.
Did it not occur to you that, because the powerful elite are so few in number, that it is impossible for them to win an election by telling the truth? Instead, they manipulate a much larger and more gullible subset of the population.
That is why they fought against the Emancipation of cheap labor back then... and today continue their opposition to any attempt to redraw the economic map in a way that would see a more equitable distribution of the American Pie. Only now they are using the GOP as their proxy. Same people working for the same corporate interests, however.
Oh yeah, I forgot, you're a Democrat. You think you're the alternative to the Republicans (in our "two party system"), when you're really almost a mirror. I bet you vote straight-ticket, Giggles.
For standing up for values, decency, and truth. We are behind you and will work to follow your lead. Take care. God Bless!
Jonice
Is this what this fool is saying, if he is a sneakey drug addict, as he was for many years in his life, and dies from drugs, the democrats killed him . .
I'll quote K.O.: YOU'RE NUTZ!!!
These are some pretty (in)credible news sources.
These are some pretty (in)credible news sources.
Liberals aren't happy unless they have something to attack because it takes the focus off of what they actually stand for. Don't you get it? You're not smart enough to decide what to watch. Keeping an eye on and making exaggerated, hateful, running comments on FNC is their idea of public service and helping the poor dumb people. It makes them feel better about themselves. Leave them alone.
Beck is hilarious and I love the vitriol he stirs here. Seriously don't make them use common sense, I'll have nothing to take pleasure in.
I mean you're a physician board certified in psychiatry, psychologist or at least a mental health professional, right?
This is entertainment and opinion kids not hard news. Think Olbermann... (insert giant eye roll)
For instance, research has reveals that "conservatism has pathological dimensions manifested in violence and distorted psycho-sexual development" (Boshier,p. 159). This is supported by a study conducted by Walker, Rowe, and Quincey (1993) in which there was a direct correlation between authoritarianism and sexually aggressive behavior. An investigation done by Muehlenhard (1988) revealed that rape justification and aggression toward subordinate individuals was much higher in traditional (conservative personality) than non-traditional personalities."
Or here's a more blunt assessment by another psychologist whose interest in the conservative personality was sparked by the odd excuses used by so many, seemingly normal Germans at their trials after the war (WW2). What they seemed to have in common was a conservative/authoritarian attitude before the war started.
"Conservatism is not the doctrine of the intellectual elite or of the more intelligent segments of the population, but the reverse. By every measure available to us, conservative beliefs are found most frequently among the uninformed, the poorly educated, and the less intelligent"(McClosky, H. Conservatism and Personality. American Political Science Review, 52, 27-45.)
Couldn't have characterized the kind of comments that you routinely find on FNC better myself, libertycop.
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