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Beck falsely accused Reid of lying about support for public option

October 27, 2009 12:21 pm ET — 24 Comments

Following reports that Senate leaders will include a public option in health care legislation, on Fox & Friends, Glenn Beck falsely suggested that only "35 percent of the population" supported a public option and accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of lying when he said, in co-host Gretchen Carlson's words, "the public wants this." In fact, polling consistently shows broad support for the public option, and the Fox News poll Beck is presumably referencing did not ask specifically about a public option.

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Beck: Only 35 percent favor public option, and Dems "just jam it down your throats anyway"

From the October 27 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): It looks as if Harry Reid's hands were tied by the left wing of his party --

BECK: Yeah.

DOOCY: -- because now he's saying, "OK, OK, OK, we will roll out something with a public option."

BECK: Yeah.

DOOCY: And apparently he's got 58 votes, according to some Democrats. Not quite the magic number --

BECK: Magic number.

DOOCY: -- of 60. But he's got 58.

BECK: Yeah, the public option is coming. I mean, I was driving in, I was listening in to you guys, and I thought to myself, when -- when in our history have we had 35 percent of the population for something, and they just jam it down your throats anyway? I mean, they're going to do what they want to do.

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): They interesting this is, one of the sound bites from Harry Reid yesterday, though. He said "the public wants this." So --

BECK: Yeah.

CARLSON: -- you know, I mean, I guess it's just --

BECK: Well, you say a lie -- especially the bigger the lie, the easier it is to swallow -- you say it long enough -- I mean, that's why the name changed, too.

Numerous recent polls on public option found widespread support

Wash. Post/ABC poll: 57 percent support government plan "to compete with private health insurance plans." When respondents were asked in an October 15-18 Washington Post/ABC News poll whether they would "support or oppose having the government create a new health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans," 57 percent said they supported the plan.

CNN/Opinion Research: 61 percent favor creating public option "administered by the federal government." When respondents were asked in an October 16-18 CNN/Opinion Research poll whether they "favor or oppose creating a public health insurance option administered by the federal government that would compete with plans offered by private health insurance companies," 61 percent said they favored the plan.

CBS News: 62 percent favor government offering "a government administered health insurance plan." When respondents were asked in an October 5-8 CBS News poll whether they would "favor or oppose the government offering everyone a government administered health insurance plan -- something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get -- that would compete with private health insurance plans," 62 percent said they would support the plan.

Kaiser Family Foundation: 57 percent favor "[c]reating a government-administered public health insurance option." When respondents were asked in an October 8-15 Kaiser Family Foundation poll whether they favored "[c]reating a government-administered public health insurance option to compete with private health insurance plans," 57 percent said they favored such a plan.

USA Today/Gallup: 50 percent support a "public, government-run insurance plan." When respondents were asked in an October 16-19 USA Today/Gallup poll, "If Congress passes a healthcare bill, do you think it should or should not include a public, government-run insurance plan to compete with plans offered by private insurance companies?" 50 percent said they thought the bill should have the plan.

Recent Fox News poll did not ask about public option

Fox News poll: 35 percent favor "reform legislation being considered." A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll released October 15 asked respondents, "Based on what you know about the health care reform legislation being considered right now, do you favor or oppose the plan?" Thirty-five percent said they favored "the plan," 54 percent opposed, and 10 percent said they did not know.

Poll was conducted before Reid's compromise proposal was "being considered" by the public. The Fox News poll asked respondents whether they favored or opposed "the health care reform legislation being considered right now." The poll did not specify which of "the health care reform legislation being considered" it was referring to, and at the time, there were at least three different proposed health care reform measures being considered by Congress. At the time the Fox News poll was conducted, Reid had not yet announced his proposal to include a public option in the forthcoming Senate compromise bill.

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    • Author by Victor Colorado (October 27, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
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      Beck could probably assert with a straight face that Obama/Biden received only 35% of the popular vote.
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      • Author by oldmaninblackforest (October 27, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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        In 2010 Beck will be RIGHT... HAHAHA...
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      • Author by alerted (October 27, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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        That is probably correct. The rest of the popular vote he received was probably all fraudulent voters that ACORN registered for him. Dallas Cowboys anyone?
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      • Author by National_Insecurity (October 28, 2009 2:44 am ET)
           
        He couldn't acknowledge Obama/Biden got 35% of the FauxNoise Viewer vote.
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    • Author by srichardson (October 27, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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      The 35% Beck is quoting is from his own poll of his Fox cohorts. They fired the 35%!!
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      • Author by wzwriter (October 27, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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        And that 35% figure also equals the median I.Q. of all Faux News employees.
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    • Author by lewislaw7153 (October 27, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
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      "They're going to do what they want to do."

      YES, FOOL because faux LOST the election . .

      FAUX LIES!!!
      FAUX LIES!!!
      FAUX LIES!!!
      FAUX LIES!!!
      FAUX LIES!!!
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    • Author by Looking_4_Truth (October 27, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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      Obviously Beck doesn't read or listen to anything other than his cohorts. Probably still feeling the effects of all that Vapor-Rub he sniffs to make himself cry, "I Love My America!!"
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    • Author by alexeipg (October 27, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
         
      To answer Beck's question, in 2007 30% of the population supported teh war in Iraq.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (October 27, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
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      The real question is "Why?"

      Let's say the FOX NEWS poll number of "54 percent opposed" is legit.

      If I had been asked, I would have been opposed to the plan as it existed at that time, so I would have been part of the 54 percent.

      Since we know that Ronnie Raygun is The Mormonster's most favorite golden idol, it should be no surprise that Beck is employing Ronnie's favorite tactic of using part of the truth to distort the whole truth.

      Figures don't lie, but liars figure.
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    • Author by blesscurse (October 27, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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      Now the Wall Street Journal - that bastion of liberalism, and NBC (the Devil) shows 48 percent in favor of a government run plan.
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      From the WSJ:

      "Susan Davis reports on the latest WSJ/NBC News poll.
      Nearly three-quarters of Americans believe it is extremely or quite important to give Americans the choice between a government-run health care plan and a private plan in any final health care bill, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll out later today.
      Some 73% said it was important to do so — 45% called it “extremely” important while 27% said it was “quite important.”
      On the other end, less than one quarter, 22%, said it was either not that important (8%) or not at all important (15%) to create a health plan that would complete with private industry.

      The strength of the support continues to come from self-identified Democrats, a majority of which, 56%, said it was extremely important to include a public option. Still, more than one in three Republicans, 34%, also said it was extremely important, as did 39% of independents.
      While Americans overwhelming said they should have a choice in the matter, asked whether they favor or oppose the create of a public option to compete with private industry, the response was more divided.
      Nearly half, 48%, said they support the public option while 42% said they oppose it. Those numbers aren’t radically different from the August WSJ/NBC News poll, in which 46% favored and 48% opposed—but it could suggest support for the public option is growing while opposition is softening."
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      • Author by Eugene (October 27, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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        You people make me laugh. How one sided you are. Do not believe everything you read on the internet.
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 27, 2009 1:40 pm ET)
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      Beck = no character

      How dangerous is it that the Rodeo Clown has a "free mike" provided by Rupert Murdoch to reach millions of people every day with LIES?
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      • Author by sambo (October 27, 2009 2:01 pm ET)
           
        Can you believe the audacity of this piece of feces, Beck, calling someone a liar?
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    • Author by themidnightreview.com (October 27, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
         
      Beck claims 35 % of the people favor a public option, but his d illusions don't stop there. He believes conservatives outnumber democrats, but the democrats have far more registered voters, and more people associate with the left then they do the right...

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      Mum Is The Word
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 27, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
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      I'll be darned, I have to agree with old Glennie on something. If you say a lie enough times, some people will believe you.

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      • Author by RealTruthseeker (October 27, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
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        And some fools will pay you a very good living like Ailes and Murdoch do McCarthy.
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    • Author by Politic Hound (October 27, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck did not lie about the ABC/Washington Post poll when he said 35% want a public option. The poll question as seen below shows "as asked" 36% strongly support a government run option and 31% strongly oppose" so both answers of 57% and "35%" as Beck stated are correct according to the poll shown below. Just depend on who and how the individual interpets the poll.

      8. Would you support or oppose having the government create a new health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

      10/18/09
      Support
      NET
      57
      Strongly
      36
      Somewhat
      21

      Oppose
      NET
      40
      Somewhat
      9
      Strongly
      31

      No Opinion
      3
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    • Author by MadameEnnui (October 27, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
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      I love how Fox shows can't attract quality guests. For some time now they have had a round-robin of each Fox "commentator" guesting on other Fox shows. It is more than a little incestuous.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (October 27, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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      BECK: Well, you say a lie -- especially the bigger the lie, the easier it is to swallow -- you say it long enough


      Ummm... project much?
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      • Author by Rosiea (October 27, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
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        I doubt there's more than 5% of the 53% of Americans that actually pay federal income tax that support the public option.
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        • Author by overmars jr. (October 30, 2009 10:15 am ET)
             
          And where did you get this number from? Were you sitting or standing?
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    • Author by StewartIII (October 27, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
         
      Gallup: In U.S., 39% Say View on Healthcare “Depends” on Details
      http://www.gallup.com/poll/123782/In-U.S.-39-Say-View-Healthcare-Depends-Details.aspx
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