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Beck, conservative media fearmonger that cap-and-trade would grant president Chavez-like powers

November 12, 2009 4:07 pm ET — 7 Comments

On his radio show, Glenn Beck claimed that "in the cap-and-trade legislation that is being proposed, the president has new emergency powers" that would allow him to "take over industries" if greenhouse gas levels reach a certain level, echoing other conservative media outlets that have claimed that the legislation requires the president to declare a "climate emergency" and "act like strong man Hugo Chavez." But the legislation explicitly directs the president to respond within existing statutory authority and to present to Congress any recommendations for legislative action.

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Beck, others assert legislation gives president new "powers," requires him to act like "strong man Hugo Chavez"

Beck: "These new emergency powers kick in. And it allows the president to take over industries." On his November 12 radio show, Beck claimed that "in the cap-and-trade legislation that is being proposed, the president has new emergency powers," adding, "These new emergency powers kick in. And it allows the president to take over industries." Beck further claimed, "It's going to happen. It's going to happen. And it's not into the distant future. So you have emergency powers there."

 Wash. Examiner: Bills contain "an obscure but nasty bureaucratic provision that requires President Obama to act like Venezuelan strong man Hugo Chavez." In a "Hot Zone Alert" editorial headlined "Climate bill's 'emergency provision' gives Obama strong-man powers," The Washington Examiner wrote:

Both the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade energy approved earlier this year and the version just okayed by Sen. Barbara Boxer's Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's Democrats (Republicans boycotted the vote) contains [sic] an obscure but nasty bureaucratic provision that requires President Obama to act like Venezuelan strong man Hugo Chavez.

Here's how: The bills require a federal declaration of a "climate emergency" if world greenhouse gas levels reach 450 parts per million. Guess what? The Pacific Northwest National Lab says it is a virtual certainty that level will be reached within a few months. The bill then requires the president to "direct all Federal agencies to use existing statutory authority to take appropriate actions ... to address shortfalls" in achieving needed greenhouse gas reductions. [Washington Examiner, 11/10/09]

Fox Nation: "Climate Bill 'Emergency Provision' Gives Obama Strongman Powers." On November 12, the front page of Fox News' TheFoxNation.com featured the headline "Climate Bill 'Emergency Provision' Gives Obama Strongman Powers" and linked to a page that excerpted the first paragraph of the Examiner editorial and provided a link to the full article. From The Fox Nation:

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Legislation directs president to use "existing statutory authority"

Law professor Adler: "None. Zero. Zilch." Legislation "grants no new powers to the federal government, let alone the President." In a post refuting the Examiner editorial on the law blog The Volokh Conspiracy, Case Western Reserve law professor Jonathan A. Adler quoted the relevant portion of the Senate bill and explained that it would grant the president no additional authority:

The above provision grants no new powers to the federal government, let alone the President. None. Zero. Zilch. Rather, it directs the President to have agencies use "existing statutory authority" to ensure greater greenhouse gas emission reductions. In other words, it requires the President to ensure that agencies are using all the tools Congress has already delegated to them to reduce greenhouse gas emissions -- tools that such agencies could use even if the section is not triggered -- and demands the President "submit to Congress" a request for additional authorities the President believes are necessary to ensure greater emission reductions. Moreover, insofar as this provision constrains the Executive Branch's discretion over what emission-reduction measures it wants to take, it actually reduces executive authority. [The Volokh Conspiracy, 11/11/09, emphases in original]

House bill also directs the president to operate under "existing statutory authority" and to present Congress with "recommendations for legislative action." The American Clean Energy and Security Act passed by the House of Representatives also directs the president to act under "existing statutory authority" to address any shortfalls in meeting emissions standards and to submit to Congress any plans to address shortfalls including "any recommendations for legislative action."

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    • Author by SLRTX (November 12, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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      Cap and trade is not a new concept. It has been used to successfully lower sulfur-dioxide emissions.

      If it worked for sulfur-dioxide, why not apply it to CO2 emissions?

      Beck, just move to Venus. That's the type of environment you seem to be comfortable with.

      http://www.epa.gov/airmarkt/cap-trade/docs/ctresults.pdf
      http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/progsregs/arp/index.html
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5tld59IGQ
      http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Blue-Sky-Thinking.html
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      • Author by gpp (November 12, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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        It is likely that global CO2 levels will reach 450ppm and even higher.

        If the US completely stopped CO2 emissions, it would have little impact on temperatures even if the AGW theory was correct, which it is not.

        Besides, temperatures around the globe dropped substantially in October, further signs that decreasing solar activity is responsible for the cooling temperatures since 2002.

        The goal to reduce CO2 is 85% by 2050. The last time the US produced this little CO2 was the 1860s and life expectancy was about 45 years.

        What needs to be assured, even if the global warming theory was true, is that the cure is not worse than the problem.

        It would be very dangerous to give the President emergency powers.

        [http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/asos-oct2009-nocities.gif]
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 12, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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          gpp -

          Yeah! I know! The cooler weather here in north Texas has been just great!

          Oh, but here's another graphic. I know it's September, but it's more of a global view of the issue. Localized, small time-frames will show variation. Sorry.

          [http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/get-file.php?report=global&file=map-blended-mntp&year=2009&month=9&ext=gif]
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          • Author by father (November 13, 2009 9:16 am ET)
               
            I like how your chart only shows 29 years worth of data. you can make alot of policy based only off of 29 years of the earth's history.

            SLRTX =FAIL
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    • Author by mk3872 (November 12, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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      Well, at least they didn't say it would make him Hitler or Satan, so I guess that's an improvement in conservative discourse
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    • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (November 13, 2009 1:51 am ET)
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      Cap and trade had been tried and it don,t work. Even some of the members of the EPA are against it.
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      • Author by SLRTX (November 13, 2009 5:04 am ET)
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        LIBERTY OR DEATH --

        Interesting claim, but you offer nothing to back it up. Sounds like a Becky thing to do.

        Sorry. Just can't take your word for it.

        C&T has worked for acid rain:

        http://www.epa.gov/airmarkt/cap-trade/docs/ctresults.pdf
        http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/progsregs/arp/index.html
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5tld59IGQ
        http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Blue-Sky-Thinking.html
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