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After aggressively promoting ACORN videos, Fox News ignores reports of Blackwater bribes

November 12, 2009 4:33 pm ET — 61 Comments

On the evening of November 11, Fox News personalities did not discuss reports from the previous evening that officials at Xe Services, formerly Blackwater Worldwide, had authorized $1 million in bribery payments to Iraqi officials in the aftermath of a fatal shooting involving Blackwater security guards. By contrast, Fox News devoted more than one hour on September 10 to discussing videos of conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles posing as a pimp and a prostitute while asking for assistance from employees at an ACORN office.

Fox News ignores Blackwater bribe scandal

NY Times: Blackwater executives "authorized secret payments of about $1 million to Iraqi officials" to"silence their criticism and buy their support." From a November 10 New York Times article:

Top executives at Blackwater Worldwide authorized secret payments of about $1 million to Iraqi officials that were intended to silence their criticism and buy their support after a September 2007 episode in which Blackwater security guards fatally shot 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad, according to former company officials.

Blackwater approved the cash payments in December 2007, the officials said, as protests over the deadly shootings in Nisour Square stoked long-simmering anger inside Iraq about reckless practices by the security company's employees. American and Iraqi investigators had already concluded that the shootings were unjustified, top Iraqi officials were calling for Blackwater's ouster from the country, and company officials feared that Blackwater might be refused an operating license it would need to retain its contracts with the State Department and private clients, worth hundreds of millions of dollars annually.

Four former executives said in interviews that Gary Jackson, who was then Blackwater's president, had approved the bribes and that the money was sent from Amman, Jordan, where the company maintains an operations hub, to a top manager in Iraq. The executives, though, said they did not know whether the cash was delivered to Iraqi officials or the identities of the potential recipients.

Blackwater's strategy of buying off the government officials, which would have been illegal under American law, created a deep rift inside the company, according to the former executives. [The New York Times, 11/10/09]

Fox News airs no coverage of Blackwater story the following night. A Media Matters for America review of Fox News programming on November 11, the night after the story broke, indicates that no Fox News host or guest discussed Blackwater or Xe Services, according to transcripts available in the Nexis and Factiva news databases.

Fox News promoted, amplified Breitbart's ACORN videographers

Fox News, led by Glenn Beck, facilitated Breitbart's release of the videos. During the September 9 edition of his Fox News program, Beck previewed an "exclusive" that would air on his program the next day, which he claimed would make "things change a lot for those in power," and aired snippets of the first video released of O'Keefe and Giles. At 6:10 a.m. ET September 10, O'Keefe posted the video on Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment.com website.

Fox News devoted more than one hour of evening broadcast to discussing ACORN tapes. In stark contrast to Fox News' blackout of the Blackwater story, the day after Beck helped Breitbart publicize the ACORN videos, Fox News dedicated 1 hour, 1 minute, and 51 seconds to discussing the story, according to a Media Matters review of Fox News' programming between 5 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET on September 10. Beck himself spent 38 minutes and 11 seconds discussing the tapes that night.

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    • Author by CitizenX (November 12, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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      If in fact, there were Blackwater bribes, then all news agencies (Right or Left) should cover the story period.


      Obama lied, troops are dying! US out of Iraq and Afghanistan now!

      Hillary Clinton:

      "I am sick and tired of people who call you unpatriotic
      if you debate this administration’s policies. We are Americans
      and have the right to participate and debate any administration."
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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        Hillary really meant that only applies with a republican pres. She takes it back now.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 12, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
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        You can not present a lie Obama made with regard to Iraq or Afghanistan. If you want to refute me, please present actual quotes in context, not your dishonest paraphrases of his statements.

        Also, please tell us anything Clinton has said or done that contradicts that quote you provided. I'm not aware of anything.
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        • Author by CitizenX (November 12, 2009 11:27 pm ET)
             
          Wow,

          You cannot be that dense. Obama paid lip service to Afghanistan as a political campaign position because he knew taking sides against both wars, though he should have, would have prevented him from being elected. As a Senator he was outspoken against US unilateral war involvement and is supported by many who beleive we need to get out of both. He now dallies around and stalls on the issue while our troops our dying in both countries. He should man up and get out. Let the god-like UN and the rest of the world deal with the issue. We cannot afford when so many are losing their jobs at a record pace since January.

          The Clinton quote is clearly a statement about the right to dissent. I include because so much of the posts on this site are ad hominem attacks rather than debate./
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    • Author by pilotshark (November 12, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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      Well of course they did, just like its a accident they used film from other marches.

      and fox hows that defunding of acorn going for you all?????
      its going well enough then you can add black water to it as well.
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      • Author by Snowman (November 12, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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        "and fox hows that defunding of acorn going for you all?????"

        You do mean for ALL of us, right? Certainly you're not pleased w/ the footage presented on the tapes.
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 10:34 pm ET)
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        The defunding is going just fine, thank you. That is my opinion, not fox's but I thought you would be interested.

        But as the other poster asked, how do you feel about the acorn footage?
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        • Author by pilotshark (November 13, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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          Well to tell you the truth, i have only seen a few clips and mostly from fox and well did not think much of them.

          so badly clipped and cut you could not tell. So i would have to believe that the real good ones are being held for trial.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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          But as the other poster asked, how do you feel about the acorn footage? - fakeliberal

          Like any rational adult I think they are a weak attempt at a Daily Show interview. If there was really anything illegal going on then the unedited version would have been turned over to actual news agencies and the authorities.

          Of course, anyone who does not see the world through purely partisan eyes would know this. The videos were clearly edited and put together not to be taken seriously, but to be chuckled at just like a Daily Show interview is. Wacky music and costumes and all the worst statement made off camera with nothing but what we are to assume are reaction shots. I wouldn't expect you to know this, fakeliberal, since, like your hero, you use the Paris Business Review as a source. How do you feel about that?
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    • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (November 12, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
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      Fox does not seem to want to bring any negative attention to any of the companies holding contracts in Iraq or Afganistan.

      They have also boycotted so much as a mention of the "Franken Amendment" lest it call attention to the KBR/Halliburton arbitration policy preventing accountability in a courtroom for its employees drugging and raping a fellow female employee.
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    • Author by keydemo (November 12, 2009 5:03 pm ET)
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      Those involved with Blackwater and ACORN corruption need to be jailed. Of course ACORN criminals include over half of Congress, a sitting president, and one Supreme Court nominee. You decide which story is more important
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      • Author by pilotx (November 12, 2009 11:25 pm ET)
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        What ACORN corruption are you referring to? I haven't heard of any that includes congress, the prez and a SCOTUS nominee. Please provide data.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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        Please elaborate on the crimes these criminals have committed. Or else, just close your eyes, rock your head back and forth, and chant your nonsensical remarks to yourself until you believe them to be true. It works for Beck.
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    • Author by Snowman (November 12, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
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      Forgive me for stating the obvious but what does the Acorn investigation have to do w/ Fox not reporting blackwater? I understand it's a hot button issue and it was on during blackwater breaks, but why bait people by comparing the two? Why not say "Fox doesn't air blackwater scandal?"

      And to be devils-advocate here for a moment, where were MSNBC, CNN and Media Matters w/ the ACORN story, aside from coming to their defense?

      This constant bickering is tired. MM has just as much an obligation to journalistic integrity as FOX does. Pointing out their flaws instead of reporting the issues puts MM in the same ballpark when they come w/ loaded stories like this one.

      Consequently, Nov. 10 - FOX posts the NY Times article about blackwater on their website:
      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573765,00.html

      Did Fox cover the story on the 12th? The 13th? ;)
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 12, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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      That's because Blackwater was owned and run by God-fearing Christian patriots...and ACORN's just a bunch of damn Communists. And, besides, the only people Blackwater killed were Muslims. <sarcasm>

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      • Author by soze169880 (November 12, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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        Blackwater just sounds so much more like a group with evil intent than ACORN. Seriously, it sounds like Destro's slush fund.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (November 12, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
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        But I see some truth in that sarcasm. SAtRrCuAtShM. I looked closely.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (November 12, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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      There's no comparison. The charges against Blackwater are much worse than anything ACORN has been charged with and the evidence of crime is much stronger against Blackwater. And yet, it's the ACORN stories that have received hours and hours of broadcast time while much of the general public knows almost nothing about Blackwater.

      And before anyone starts blathering on about child prostitution rings, the fact is that out of about a dozen ACORN workers not a single one ever makes any direct reference to the topics of prostitution rings or child prostitutes. I find it almost impossible to believe that none of them would make a direct verbal reference to those topics if they were being discussed. You only hear it mentioned by the off-camera voice on those highly-edited videos.
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      • Author by southerngal (November 12, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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        Well, you're talking about Fox News here. Is this is a surprise? Besides, the NY Times did not ignore the story. So to say the general public knows nothing about Blackwater because of anything related to ACORN is a stretch. The two are not related in any way except by the comparison made here.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 12, 2009 7:23 pm ET)
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          I disagree. While there is obviously no link between ACORN and Blackwater, it's very reasonable to compare the media coverage of the two. While Blackwater has received some coverage, the ACORN "scandal" has received far more coverage even outside of Faux Snooze. Admittedly, I don't have numbers to present, but I watch and read enough news sources (blogs and political websites excluded) to feel very comfortable with my conclusion. Speaking to people, though, there is much more awareness of ACORN (even if much of it is false) than there is of Blackwater scandals.
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 12, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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          right ON --

          Fiscal conservatives should be supportive of Betty McCollum's bill. Check out her site to see the details. Be sure to tell your Representative to support it.

          http://www.mccollum.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=726&Itemid=92
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (November 12, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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            I am very proud to have her representing my district. Think about it. I'm represented in the US Congress by Betty McCollum, Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken. I'll bet that makes a lot of you jealous. Eat your hearts out.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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          I agree there have been stories about Blackwater. If people do not know about Blackwater then they should stop blaming the press and point the finger at themselves. Scahill and others have done a remarkable job documenting all the nefarious acts of Blackwater and now Xe.

          Of course Fox News only covers nonsense - they are not a new organization. They are a political organization. I have yet to see anything that was actually criminal come out of any of the unedited versions of any of these ACORN comdey tapes, but I agree that has nothing to do with Blackwater. The information is out there. At some point, we have to stop blaming the politicians and the press for so many of our own people being so ignorant and ill-informed.
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 7:10 pm ET)
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        "And before anyone starts blathering on about child prostitution rings, the fact is that out of about a dozen ACORN workers not a single one ever makes any direct reference to the topics of prostitution rings or child prostitutes"

        That's nonsense, the acorn workers were clearly seen discussing prostitution even advising them to call themselves performance artists instead of prostitutes. And another was advising them where it was best to smuggle in the teen prostitutes. And advising to keep the kids in school to keep up appearances.

        Our tax dollars at work.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 12, 2009 7:33 pm ET)
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          Bull. The advice on how to label employment was directed to the one single person posing as a prostitute. There was no reference to a prostitution ring. When someone here (I think it was you, but I might be wrong) made that same claim about where to bring in teen prostitutes I went back to the transcripts to double-check myself. I was correct, they made no such advice with any reference to child prostitutes or prostitution rings. The parts about keeping kids in school also had no reference at all to prostitution.

          Of course, if I'm wrong it should be easy to show it. Go to the transcripts, provide a link and tell us where your evidence is. Or link to the video and tell us at which time point we can find the reference. I'm putting myself out there with claims that can be proven wrong if I am. Prove me wrong.

          You won't. I've been making this case for months now and no one's been able to show me wrong yet, even when they persist in insisting that I am. They make the claims, but they can't find the evidence.
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          • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
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            Yes one single person asking advice on how to set up a prostitution ring. And acorn was happy to assist.

            Here is the smuggling advice.............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CMXMC7vba4

            Here is another to watch..............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtTnizEnC1U&feature=related
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            • Author by DellDolly (November 12, 2009 10:50 pm ET)
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              So, the first link you provided is to the guy in California who was trying to draw information out of these fools, and after they left, he contacted someone he knew in law enforcement to rat these people out you claim he was trying to help?

              And the second link? Where do they talk about the smuggling ring?

              And we would need to see the unedited tapes, fool, in order to determine what was actually said and when. How many times in the past month has your crew been caught unfairly cropping comments.
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              • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 12:20 am ET)
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                You can deny the obvious all you want. But your democratic congress obviously agrees with me. Don't they.

                What did you name your seeing eye dog?
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            • Author by ScienceBuff (November 13, 2009 8:40 am ET)
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              I've been through the San Diego video and transcript. I told you it wasn't enough for you to link to the video and pretend your evidence is there. Where in the video is an ACORN employee giving advice for smuggling in teen prostitutes? Where in the video does any ACORN worker make any direct reference at all to prostitution rings or child prostitution?

              Here, I'll make it easier for you. Go to the transcript. Tell us where in the transcript we can find what you claim. YOU CAN'T. IT'S NOT THERE.

              I've watched the Baltimore video. It doesn't support you either. But please, as I said, prove me wrong. Here's the Baltimore transcript. Where can we find something in there that proves me wrong? Or at what point in the video?

              YOU'RE WRONG. Or you're lying. If I'm wrong it can be shown. Go ahead, prove me wrong. You've failed miserably so far.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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            You're wasting your time, ScienceBuff. Fakeliberal will just supply links that do not support her statements. This is what she does. She either plays dumb or is not playing. She will give you links all day, even links to the Paris Business Review. They just will not support her statements.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 13, 2009 9:00 am ET)
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        Here's the statement I've made several times: The fact is that out of about a dozen ACORN workers not a single one ever makes any direct reference to the topics of prostitution rings or child prostitutes.

        WHY CAN'T ANY ACORN CRITICS PROVE ME WRONG? I've made that statement over and over. We have the words of the ACORN workers. If I were wrong, surely someone would have provided the evidence by now. THEY HAVEN'T.

        All I get is nonsense like "It's in the San Diego video where they tell how to smuggle the girls in." No, it isn't. Or some idiot simply links to a 10 minute video and states it's in there. Give me a time stamp where to find it!! Pull up a transcript and provide the text!!

        PROVE ME WRONG. If the words are there, I'll admit I'm wrong. I've issued the challenge over and over. Why can't anyone prove me wrong?

        Could it be because I'm right?
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
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          Of course you are right. If there was any actual evidence of crimes being perpetrated these unedited tapes would have been turned over to the authorities. This is clear to any thinking adult. Isn't it?
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (November 12, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
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      After aggressively promoting ACORN videos, Fox News ignores reports of Blackwater bribes

      Of course Fox Snooze will ignore the Blackwater issue. Just like the Haliburton rape case.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/world/middleeast/11blackwater.html
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      • Author by L (November 12, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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        Who is covering it?
        News flash--The world does not revolve around the New York press or any cable “news” channel.

        When you wake up in the morning you can turn to any channel they will have the exact same national news.
        They call themselves journalists but all they do is report news from the same place—All of them MSNBC, NBC, CNN, Headline news, Fox news, ABC, CBS on and on.

        If Blackwater or ACORN is not on “The List” then they all will take a pass.

        What was CNN’s last breaking news? “Balloon Boy”?
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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        Of course if you scroll down a little further you can see the story Fox did on Blackwater, so I guess you and the dweebs at MMFA are wrong.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 13, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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          Nope, MMFA is not wrong. They stated that Faux Snooze has not aired any stories on the Blackwater bribery scandals. An online link to a NYT story is not airing a story about Blackwater paying millions in bribes to Afghani officials to cover up cold-blooded murder on the part of Blackwater. Wouldn't you say that's more serious than a little dubious tax advice which is the worst thing we see any ACORN employees doing?

          I'm still waiting for you to provide words from any ACORN workers making any direct reference to prostitution rings or child prostitution. As it stands now, the only references to those topics comes from an off-camera voice on highly edited videos.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (November 12, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
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      Even if there were videos of the bribes, Fox would not have shown them.
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 10:30 pm ET)
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        How do you feel about the left ignoring the acorn videos? You are presuming something about Fox that many libs actually did. Seems inconsistent.
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    • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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      I wonder why MMFA was not as concerned about the absence of coverage of the acorn story, it was initially ignored by many.

      But look at this here is a Fox story about the very story we are discussing. Ooops

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573765,00.html?test=latestnews
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      • Author by SLRTX (November 12, 2009 7:56 pm ET)
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        fairliberal --

        Yep, we liberals missed the ACORN story. Our bad. }:-(

        So we take it you now agree - Fox should also go after Blackwater? Why should anyone be allowed to misappropriate our hard-earned tax $$? Let Beck know he needs to get on the ball on this one!

        And be sure to tell your Representative to support Betty McCollum's bill. I'm sure you are for it.

        http://www.mccollum.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=726&Itemid=92
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        • Author by fairliberal (November 12, 2009 10:27 pm ET)
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          The link I provided shows that Fox did report on Blackwater, contrary to what the dweebs at MMFA say. The libs in the media ignored the acorn story as long as they could.

          And if Blackwater is guilty they should pay the price. I am not defending their actions, or alledged actions. There is one difference in the 2 cases, we can see with our own eyes acorn's actions, that is not true of the blackwater case, we must rely on the justice system to sort that out.
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          • Author by pilotx (November 12, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
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            Funny. If the ACORN workers did anything illegal on tape that was there for the world to see why aren't they being prosecuted? Could it be they broke no laws? Just asking.
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            • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 12:30 am ET)
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              Acorn clearly demonstrated a willingness to assist others in breaking the law. Their intent is clear. They didn't actually break any laws, so I guess in your mind that makes them upstanding citizens. It is shameful that you would approve and defend them. Our democratic congress obviously agrees more with my opinion than yours.

              And BTW, did I say they broke the law?

              Do you also consider the sexual predators that get nailed on the NBC show innocent also, because they get exposed before they have the opportunity to commit their crimes?
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (November 13, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
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                It is shameful that you would approve and defend them.

                No one is defending them. The point is that Blackwater/Halliburton/KBR have stolen more money in ONE DAY than ACORN has in it's entire history. And they have the real underage sex slaves while ACORN's are only imaginary.
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      • Author by L (November 12, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
           
        Can I reply now?
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    • Author by SLRTX (November 12, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
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      Tell your Representative to support Betty McCollum's ACORN bill.

      Text taken from her site (link below):

      The ACORN Act is modeled after H.R. 3571 but respects the Constitution by requiring a corporation to be guilty of a felony before federal funds are cut off. The bill:

      * Prohibits a corporation with a felony conviction from receiving any federal contracts, grants, or funds in any form for five years after the conviction.
      * Prohibits federal employees or contractors from promoting corporate felons for five years.
      * Prohibits corporate felons or any applicable individual from contributing to a candidate for federal office, to a political party, or to a federal political action committee for five years.
      * Limits the corporation or any applicable individual to no more than $1 million annually for lobbying Congress or federal officials for a 5 year period.
      * Provides presidential waiver authority if federal contracts, grants, and other agreements with corporate felons are determined to be in the national interest.

      http://www.mccollum.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=726&Itemid=92
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      • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 12:36 am ET)
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        Yeah we need to protect fine groups like acorn from being cut off. I guess in your mind , intent doesn't matter.
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        • Author by SLRTX (November 13, 2009 5:22 am ET)
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          Seems you didn't read the actual text of the bill.

          ACORN WOULD be cut off, but so would all the other recipients of our tax $$. Seems the only fiscally conservative thing to do.

          It has to take a Democrat to propose this bill. But I'm sure those fiscally conservative Republicans should have no problems supporting it.
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          • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 11:31 am ET)
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            Acorn would not be cut off, because they have not been convicted of a felony. All we have seen is their willingness to break the law, they were exposed before the actual crimes.

            And after watching those tapes it says alot about a dem who would name the bill after an obviously corrupt group. Par for the course.
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            • Author by SLRTX (November 13, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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              fairliberal --

              "Acorn would not be cut off, because they have not been convicted of a felony."

              But, if they HAD been convicted of a felony, their funds would be cut off.

              This is a good, fiscally sound bill - and it applies to ANY organization that accepts $$ from us.

              Can Rep. McCollum expect your support on this bill?
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    • Author by Media Mumblings (November 13, 2009 10:35 am ET)
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      I think Blackwater is probably guilty of bribes and much more. If these private armies like Blackwater annoy lefties so much then all of you should be abhorred to see what the Obama administration has done since taking control. They have brought home some of the troops in the Middle East but have replaced them and then some by more private security forces. These private militiamen tend to cost 2 to 3 times as much as regular army personnel.

      This site justifiably calls Foxnews to the mat on the focus of their reporting in this instance, but where are the other major news networks? Are they focusing on this increase in private army personnel (so-called security personnel) in lieu of regular army personnel? It costs so much more for the private army and is done for political reasons. You'll end up with less deaths of soldiers and more deaths of private army members so as to look better for casualty counts. You guys would be screaming bloody murder if a non-democrat administratioin were doing this.

      I don't think that Foxnews should be criticized for covering the continuing Acorn scandal though. They should be criticized for not focusing on the Blackwater scandal and the increase of private army personnel under this new administration( a much bigger scandal). The rest of the media should be criticized for giving scant and perfunctory coverage to the increase in private army personnel. The rest of the media should also be heavily criticized for barely covering the ongoing scandals with Acorn. If this were an organization affiliated with the right, the mainstream media would be giving wall-to-wall coverage of the scandals. This organization even gets public money. The media should be focused on this corruption like a laser beam. They don't because they are all ideological news outlets first and foremost--just like Foxnews. That's because there is no such thing as unbiased news. That would imply that there are unbiased people--automatons in effect. There's no such thing.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 13, 2009 11:07 am ET)
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        Liberals have been trying to focus attention on the use of private firms in Afghanistan for a while. This is from Alternet:
        Despite the widespread contractor abuses in Iraq, Pentagon chief Robert Gates defends the ongoing privatization push: "The use of contractor security personnel is vital to supporting the forward-operating bases in certain parts of the country," he declared in a February letter to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

        What the gentle war secretary is really saying is this: "We don't have a draft, and I don't see a lot of senators' kinfolks volunteering to put their butts on the line in Afghanistan, so I've gotta pay through the nose to find enough privateers to guard America's Army in this forbidding place."

        The issue isn't the simple use of private contractors by itself. The military and the government would love to just use military personnel. The problem is that we don't have enough of them to cover the duties that need to be performed. The real issue is something that remains to be seen. How will these contractors behave in the performance of their duties and how will this administration respond to misbehavior? Will they take action against it, or will they provide a knee-jerk defense of the contractors as the last administration did? That remains to be seen.

        The rest of the media should also be heavily criticized for barely covering the ongoing scandals with Acorn. If this were an organization affiliated with the right, the mainstream media would be giving wall-to-wall coverage of the scandals. - Welfare-Warfare State

        Not from my experience. The MSM has given pretty short shrift to scandals of the right. Unless sex was involved. When sex is involved there's overkill on coverage with no regard to left-right positioning.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
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          "Liberals have been trying to focus attention on the use of private firms in Afghanistan for a while." - ScienceBuff

          That is true. The Nation and other left-wing media have done a wonderful job of covering the Blackwater / Xe stories. What this shows, once again, is that the MSM is not liberal at all.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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        "I think Blackwater is probably guilty of bribes and much more. If these private armies like Blackwater annoy lefties so much then all of you should be abhorred to see what the Obama administration has done since taking control. They have brought home some of the troops in the Middle East but have replaced them and then some by more private security forces. These private militiamen tend to cost 2 to 3 times as much as regular army personnel." - WarfareonWelfare

        I absolutely agree. No excuses. The way we have turned our military over to private industry is absolutely appalling. It was disgusting under our last several presidents and it is still disgusting under Obama today. If we have over-extended our military to this point, then bring them home! Using mercenaries to represent us is unacceptable.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (November 13, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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        "The rest of the media should also be heavily criticized for barely covering the ongoing scandals with Acorn. If this were an organization affiliated with the right, the mainstream media would be giving wall-to-wall coverage of the scandals." - WarfareonWelfare

        What scandal? If there were any actual evidence of wrongdoing these unedited tapes would have been turned over to actual news organizations and the authorites by now. Come on, you're smarter than this. If the Daily Show stumbled upon an actual criminal organization while doing one of their comedy interviews they would not turn over the edited version of wacky costumes and music with all the worst things being said off-camera and edited reaction shots. It's ridiculous. They would turn over the actual raw footage for the media and the authorities to see. If you cannot see that, then you are only looking through partisan blinders.
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        • Author by Indy (November 13, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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          Republicans and FOX News are in the process of using the old "white out" correction fluid by the gallons. "Big Tent" sale going on. Specials include "angry white guy" T-Shirts and hats. Not much left on the shelves now. Hurry on down now ya'll.
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    • Author by BBaker (November 14, 2009 12:28 am ET)
         
      Here is a nice reality check... Fox news did a article about this very story. It was a AP story and they did the story a day before the other "networks".

      Proof: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573765,00.html

      MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33850878/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

      CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/11/11/iraq.blackwater/index.html

      NBC: NOTHING - http://www.nbc.com/app/search/?searchString=Blackwater&searchSubmit=

      The other networks has the same story as AP and AP credits the breaking story to the New York Times.
      http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ_BLACKWATER?SITE=KLIF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

      New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/world/middleeast/11blackwater.html?_r=1&scp=4&sq=blackwater&st=cse

      A interesting read.

      I couldn't find any video on this on any of the websites they might be out there but I am not going to do your research for you. That is the Forth Estates job to do or instead of the Forth Estate investigating each other maybe they should do their job. But then again Media Matter isn't a news organization is it?
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    • Author by diamonds (November 14, 2009 4:16 am ET)
         
      How much of that "1 hour, 1 minute, and 51 seconds" is actually reporting? Isn't it about time we learned not to count commentary?
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