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Limbaugh Suggests Trial Of '93 World Trade Center Bombers Contributed To 9-11

November 13, 2009 5:29 pm ET — 15 Comments

By Zachary Pleat

Rush: Putting terrorists on trial is "a disgusting travesty"

"Chickenhawk" Rush wasted no time savaging the decision to bring Khalid Shaikh Mohammed to America for trial, saying, "This is more insidious than you can possibly imagine. I'm talking about bringing these terrorists up from Gitmo and trying them in New York City." Rush went on, calling the idea of putting terrorists on trial a "disgusting travesty" and then complaining that Obama is always out of the country when bad news hits and that he is pushing the responsibility for this off to Attorney General Eric Holder, a claim he repeated later in his show. Later on, Rush claimed that federal judges from "the American left" would be only too happy to let terrorists go free. Rush's obsession with a possible acquittal became a running theme throughout his show.

Next, Rush surprised us with quite a treat: He will have former Alaska governor and former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin live on his show next Tuesday, to coincide with her book release, which Rush proclaimed to be "one of the most substantive policy books" he has read. He also announced that his interview with Palin will be the cover story of his new Limbaugh Letter. During this segment, Rush repeated the party line that Sarah Palin was kept bottled up by the McCain campaign. Rush also took the opportunity to defend her disastrous interview with Katie Couric. Later in his show, Rush ranted about journalists in Washington being disconnected from real people for not recognizing the crowds that Sarah Palin and other conservatives draw on their book tours and rallies, and launched into his typical revisionism about the 2008 election, creating a straw man to stand in for Obama and lamenting that the GOP "had the wrong candidate."

Once he finished teasing us with the promise of listening to both him and Palin at the same time next week, Rush read in full a NRO Corner blog post by Andrew McCarthy, praising him as the "best source" for this kind of legal and national security analysis.

Rush: Terrorist trials will "destroy the CIA"

Rush then took it upon himself to defend the Central Intelligence Agency, decrying any investigations into the CIA as "banana republic-type stuff" and "Marxist-type stuff." Finishing up the NRO article, Rush declared that America will be put on trial, and that it will be a soapbox for Al Qaeda. Rush finished this off by declaring that this trial would destroy the CIA, a charge he repeated several times throughout his show.

Later on, Rush amazingly claimed that putting the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 led to the 9-11 attacks, a remark he repeated later on:

LIMBAUGH: Try this. There have been all kinds of people on television today being asked, "Bringing them into New York, doesn't that make New York a bigger terrorist target?" Hey. And they all say, "Well, no, no. New York's always a terrorist target. Look at '93. We tried those guys in 1993, and nothing happened." What do you mean, "Nothing happened"? You ever heard of 9-11? We tried these guys and convicted the blind sheikh in 1993 and nothing happened except 9-11.

Never one to be afraid of attacking just about anyone, Rush blamed the FBI investigation of alleged Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan for treating him as a potential criminal instead of a potential terrorist. Incidentally, the FBI plays a major role in terrorist investigations. Rush then attacked congressman and retired admiral Joe Sestak as "a dangerous, left-wing, radical ideologue" for his views on putting terrorists on trial.

Rush: "[T]his poor guy McChrystal ... has to sit there and listen to a community organizer"

Rush started off his second hour by continuing his incredulousness over putting Gitmo detainees on trial in federal court, claiming that the Zacarias Moussaoui trial was a circus because "supposed 9-11 families" asked for leniency for him.

Next, Rush played a clip of Obama answering a question about his decision on Afghanistan and summed it up as "a bunch of psychobabble." Seemingly unaware that our system of constitutional government places the military under civilian control, Rush lamented:

LIMBAUGH: Can you imagine this poor guy [Gen. Stanley] McChrystal? Here's this four-star general, and he has to sit there and listen to this community organizer, who wouldn't know the butt end of an AK-47 if he saw it, tell him how to run a war. And then he's got to sit there and put up with a really strategically timed statement from our ambassador, appointed by Obama, in Kabul.

Next, Rush repeated an earlier complaint that Obama didn't declare that dropping atomic bombs on Japan was the right thing to do, accusing him of ducking the question. Rush then claimed Obama wouldn't answer because he couldn't say what he wanted to say: "my country was wrong." Rush later expanded on this, declaring that Rev. Jeremiah Wright was obsessed with the atomic bombing of Japan, and as Rush said today and says nearly every week, "Jeremiah Wright is Obama."

After saying that Obama's visit to Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska was nothing but a campaign Q&A session and a chance to bash former President Bush, Rush took a caller who pleaded with him to continue his support for the troops. Rush used this opportunity to yet again accuse Obama of dithering on Afghanistan. Rush then talked about how he feels empathy for military families and again accused Obama of not caring about victory.

Next, Rush read a Politico story highlighting a decision Obama will announce in next year's State of the Union speech to tackle deficits, and asked "what moron will believe" that Obama would "turn into a deficit hawk." Rush treated us to his wonderful political analysis after finishing the article, saying Obama is speaking like this because he's losing the independents. Later on, Rush warned people not to believe anyone saying that Obama will turn into a deficit hawk.

Rush: "[A] jury of peers of these terrorists" includes "Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann."

Coming back from another break, Rush wondered if anyone "realize[s] Barack Obama is tougher on insurance companies than he is on the 9-11 mastermind?" This, of course, reminded Rush of his anger over the upcoming transfer of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. So he treated us to his delusional make-up of the alleged 9-11 mastermind's true jury of peers:

LIMBAUGH: As long as we're throwing the rules out, here, we're conferring constitutional rights on noncitizens, why the hell do the jurors have to come from New York? Let's put Bill Ayers on the jury. Let's put his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, on the jury. Let's put Jeremiah Wright on the jury. Let's go get Saul Alinksy's son -- I think he lives in Boston -- put him on the jury. Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann. Who else could be -- we're talking about a jury of peers of these terrorists, who hated this country so much they wanted to blow up the World Trade Center and did. And Cindy Sheehan is the judge.

Oh! Put Harry Reid on the jury. "This war is lost. This war" -- and get Senator Durbin! Senator Durbin sides with these guys! Get Sestak. Durbin says that our interrogators were nothing than, like Pol Pots, renegades and the Nazis and the Soviet gulags and so forth. So, yeah, we get Dick Durbin. John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. John Kerry. Oh, oh. Look at the jury we could impanel here.

Rush then rounded out his second hour by joining Glenn Beck in attacking Andy Stern by reading a Heritage Foundation blog post. Rush used this as a chance to plug the Heritage Foundation.

Rush to open a chain of "Fat-Moms-R-Us" maternity clinics

Coming back for the third hour, Rush treated us to a distinctly uninteresting story about how his buddy Vince Flynn's book is being turned into a movie.

Next, claiming that he had an advance copy of a New York Times story on immigration overhaul efforts as "a powerful, influential member of the media," Rush read the story, available online during his show, and asserted that Obama will give 12 million illegal aliens amnesty next year.

Rush then joined far-right-wing blogger Pam Geller in talking about Hasan's business card and joked that he thought the abbreviation "SWT" stood for "super wacky terrorist."

Rush finished off this segment by reading a U.K. Telegraph article on overweight pregnant women being turned away from a single hospital in the U.K. because they are "not equipped to handle complicated births." Rush used this story to propose a wonderful new business opportunity in Great Britain, a chain of maternity clinics named "Fat-Moms-R-Us." Later on, Rush wondered if these hospitals in the U.K. would turn away overweight women seeking abortions.

Rush: "[W]e are all Costa Ricans now"

Back from another break, Rush again treated us to his new parody of the video of World Wildlife Fund staffers' children asking President Obama to attend the Copenhagen summit for a new global treaty to combat climate change.

Next, Rush took a caller who compared the public option to any problems with public schools and public housing. Rush said all you need to think when you hear "public option" is lines, lines, and more lines.

Rush then took a caller who mentioned the absentee ballots yet to be counted in the 23rd Congressional District election in New York, and Rush read an AP story on how the race has tightened and went on to gloat over the GOP gubernatorial victories in New Jersey and Virginia, suggesting that independents were voting for Republicans in large numbers.

Rush then came back from another break by having his favorite insurance company representative on the phone to talk about hospitals being set up in Costa Rica, treating it like an ad on his show. After a short break, Rush read some of the "thousands" of emails coming in from this call and declared that "we are all Costa Ricans now."

Rush's last caller of the day, and the week, complained about the bureaucratic hassle that imperiled his dream of inventing the perfect monthly toothbrush, eventually getting around to claiming that toothbrushes are being classified as medical devices and will be taxed under the House health care bill. Rush said tampons are also going to be taxed and imagined a rally of women waving tampons around in the air protesting the taxes, declaring it "a shame" that Ted Kennedy wouldn't be alive to see it.

Zachary Aronow and Kate Conway contributed to this edition of the Limbaugh Wire.

Highlights

LIMBAUGH: This, my friends, is even more insidious than you know. This is more insidious than you can possibly imagine. I'm talking about bringing these terrorists up from Gitmo and trying them in New York City in a civil -- well, a civil -- criminal trial. It's just --

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Before I get into this disgusting travesty perpetrated here by Barack Obama, who -- you notice how this guy's always out of the country when bad news hits? Unemployment 9.4, flies off somewhere. Nine point seven, flies off somewhere. Ten point two, flies off somewhere. Sends Holder out there today to announce they're bringing the Gitmo detainees up here for trial. He's over there in Japan, and he pulled -- they asked him about it over there, and he pulled a Bill Clinton/Janet Reno.

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LIMBAUGH: Thus, the administration cooperates with the Obama left-wing base, giving it the reckoning it demands. But Obama gets to deny responsibility for any actual prosecutions. Now, we mentioned this to you last summer, that this was the objective of this. They don't want their fingerprints on it. But they want -- I mean, this is -- this -- again, this is banana republic-type stuff. This is Marxist-type stuff. You go after your predecessors and you put them in jail or you do what you can to embarrass them, discredit them, and ruin their lives.

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LIMBAUGH: So, we're now going to have a trial that never had to happen for defendants who have no defense. That is key to understand what's happening here, folks. They have no defense. They have asked to be executed. They have admitted doing this. They're -- they take great pride in having blown up the World Trade Center. And as I said, when defendants have no defense for their actions, there's only one thing for their lawyers to do, and that's put the government on trial in hopes of getting the jury and the media spun up over government errors, government abuses, government incompetence. That's what's going to happen at this trial. It'll be a soapbox. Folks, it's going to be soapbox for Al Qaeda's case against America, and if you don't think that they can't find some pro bono ACLU lawyers to go in there and make the case that the United States of America is guilty, you have another thing coming.

And since that'll be their defense, quote-unquote, that the government of the United States is corrupt, unfair, unjust, and guilty, the defendants and their lawyers will demand every bit of information they can get about the interrogations, the renditions, secret prisons, undercover operations targeting Muslims in mosques, and depending on what judge catches the case, they're likely to be given a lot of it.

Because fairness is the -- has become the new foundation of the new America. Fairness as defined by a bunch of radical leftists. The administration will be able to claim that the judge, not the administration, is responsible for the exposure of our defense secrets. There won't be any fingerprints on Holder. There won't be any fingerprints of Obama's attached to this this. It's all going to fall on the judge. The judge is going to take the heat, and depending on who the judge is, he might enjoy it. I mean, there's a bunch of radical leftists on our federal bench as we sit here today.

And this circus is going to be played out for all to see. Holder's -- "Oh yeah, we're going to have TV cameras in there, we're" -- all of this. In the middle of a war, we are going to televise to the world exactly how a bunch of leftist lawyers and terrorists think this country sucks. And before it's all over, their lawyers are going to end up making the case that these guys had cause for hijacking airplanes and bringing down the twin towers.

At some point, that's where this goes. We're going to have so much sympathy for the discrimination against people from the religion of peace, that they were driven to this by our association with Israel. And before it's all said and done you're going to find some whacked nut jobs in the Upper West Side of Manhattan that are going to be on this jury who are going to end up thinking, "You know what? We did deserve it. Now we know why they don't like 'em, but maybe we can set the record straight here and go forward in peace if we just admit this was our fault." Endless fodder for the transnational left to press its case that actions taken in America's defense are violations of international law. And this is going to destroy the CIA. It will destroy the CIA, exposing virtually everything they've done, people who did it. It's not good, folks.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: And by the way, this decision was made by Obama. Not Holder. Holder is carrying out Obama's policies. Holder is Obama. Jeremiah Wright is Obama. Bill Ayers is Obama. Valerie Jarrett is Obama. Van Jones is Obama. And again, whether he's being naive and just doesn't understand it, hasn't properly educated, or whether it's diabolical and on purpose doesn't matter. The end result is the same.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Can you imagine this poor guy McChrystal? Here's this four-star general, and he has to sit there and listen to this community organizer, who wouldn't know the butt end of an AK-47 if he saw it, tell him how to run a war. And then he's got to sit there and put up with a really strategically timed statement from our ambassador, appointed by Obama, in Kabul.

Outrageous comments

LIMBAUGH: Try this. There have been all kinds of people on television today being asked, "Bringing them into New York, doesn't that make New York a bigger terrorist target?" Hey. And they all say, "Well, no, no. New York's always a terrorist target. Look at '93. We tried those guys in 1993, and nothing happened." What do you mean, "Nothing happened"? You ever heard of 9-11? We tried these guys and convicted the blind sheikh in 1993 and nothing happened except 9-11.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: It's really hard to say this to you, but you don't have a president who looks at life or war or the United States in any way, shape, manner, or form the way you do. You have a traditional view of this country based on your service to it and your commitment to it. We don't have a president who shares your commitment to the country, who shares your commitment to victory. We have a president and an administration who believes this country's guilty of things. And he's going to have trouble pulling the trigger on more troops over there, and even if he does pull the trigger on more troops, I think the constraints on their procedures over there, the rules of engagement, are going to be such that I -- it's going to be useless.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Folks, I'm sorry, I can't get off this decision to bring these terrorists to New York and conduct a trial. I just -- I -- this is such an insidious plot, it is such a disas-- do you realize Barack Obama is tougher on insurance companies than he is on the 9-11 mastermind?

[...]

LIMBAUGH: As long as we're throwing the rules out, here, we're conferring constitutional rights on noncitizens, why the hell do the jurors have to come from New York? Let's put Bill Ayers on the jury. Let's put his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, on the jury. Let's put Jeremiah Wright on the jury. Let's go get Saul Alinksy's son -- I think he lives in Boston -- put him on the jury. Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann. Who else could be -- we're talking about a jury of peers of these terrorists, who hated this country so much they wanted to blow up the World Trade Center and did. And Cindy Sheehan is the judge.

Oh! Put Harry Reid on the jury. "This war is lost. This war" -- and get Senator Durbin! Senator Durbin sides with these guys! Get Sestak. Durbin says that our interrogators were nothing than, like Pol Pots, renegades and the Nazis and the Soviet gulags and so forth. So, yeah, we get Dick Durbin. John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. John Kerry. Oh, oh. Look at the jury we could impanel here.

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    • Author by Meremark (November 14, 2009 4:02 am ET)
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      Zach, and Kate, it goes droughts with no comments here but I'd like you to know I appreciate your doing this. It's a chore, I know, I used to do it ... unpaid.
      Now you do it and you save me having to listen to his tone-deaf tyrant-izing voice. and all the lies. But if only you could include the sponsors list, some way ... but I understand the problems with that. (Here's a fantasy of mine, fresh new just this week: For Halloween organize a national website 'location list' of every Rash syndicate station, and have an ActUp/MoveOn/ELF-type 'network' go for trick-or-treats but instead leave a brown bag of dog poo at the door of each Lamebrain station.)

      On topic: There are instances when Rash roots up something correct, like a blind sow. 'Correct' defined as I agree with him. Like this time.
      He says the trial of the '93 Twin Tower bombers contributed to Nine-Eleven Op. Lose the word 'trial.'
      I say the '93 Twin Tower bombers contributed to Nine-Eleven Op. This way:

      As the '93 bombers trial came to a sort of finish in only the last 12 months, now (and earlier) transcripts show that the '93 bombers were essentially set up by an FBI-directed provocateur who enjoined the 'group' (who weren't actually aligned for any purpose in anything), suggested and facilitated the scheme to bomb a Twin Tower basement, and steered them tho' they were willing led in the extremism and the murderous crime. And it seems (in my way of thinking) that the logistics and event garnered much information about Tower architecture, security, defenses, interconnected dynamics, and such -- as can be learned intelligence from either mistakes or practice runs -- which amounts to some 'success' from an information-gathering p.o.v. but barely seen that way (as a success) only focusing on Tower knockdown.

      And then, in 2001, yeah information the '93 bombers learned was contributory in Nine-Eleven Op (for instance how much charge was necessary for the basement pilings cuts). And some of the personnel were on-the-job-trained in 2001 who had been 'in the loop' in '93, and those personnel know who they are. so does the FBI, or did, somewhere inside it.
      Besides which, the same chain-of-custody-of-the-knowing personnel were (some) 'in the loop' on at least one other interrim 'practice run' -- in '95 and the Murrah Bldg in OK City.

      Of course, the Rash one dismisses out of hand everything I just wrote. And so do you Z, & K. So, let's see if I understand this: you agree with Rash?

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    • Author by sheerinsanity (November 14, 2009 10:07 am ET)
         
      The point is that the '93 bomber (Ramzi Yousef) was caught and sentenced to life without parole.

      LIMBAUGH: Folks, I'm sorry, I can't get off this decision to bring these terrorists to New York and conduct a trial. I just -- I -- this is such an insidious plot, it is such a disas-- do you realize Barack Obama is tougher on insurance companies than he is on the 9-11 mastermind?

      We certainly seem to be catching far more terrorists in recent weeks than we did in the previous eight years. Or is that just me?
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      • Author by sheerinsanity (November 14, 2009 10:10 am ET)
           
        I would like to add that Ramzi Yousef is the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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        • Author by Meremark (November 16, 2009 3:47 am ET)
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          ... and a frere de guerre of bin Ladin.

          Using full width of band, the following has scant relation with 'media' topics. Except perhaps as an exhibit of how real true reporting works, by an independent (published) journalist in the Sy Hersh-credibility (i.e. golden) standard of product and ethic: Wayne Madsen in his website Report (self-cited as 'WMR' in what follows), anathema of Limbaugh -- if any single day's WMReport ever emerges in the mainstream media, the information could vaporize Limbaugh, as dynamic as a pin sticking an overinflated balloon.

          I am looking forward to the explosive possibilities in extended days of Limbaugh mixing the two volatile subjects: '93 Tower bombing 'perps' --and / or / versus / juxtaposed-- nine-eleven op 'perps'. Such as arrayed here by Wayne Madsen Report [subscription req'd]:

          October 13-14, 2008 -- The trigger for the 93 WTC attack

          The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was carried out as a result of a fatwa issued by the Council of Senior Ulma, the Saudi government's advisory council of senior Islamic clerics from all the major branches of Islam, including Sunni, Shi'a, and Sufi. The council advises the Saudi government on issues pertaining to the Islamic shrines of Mecca and Medina.

          According to senior Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) sources, in early 1993, the Saudi government, in a goodwill gesture, decided to try to quell dissension between the United States military and Saudi religious conservatives over the stationing of U.S. troops on Saudi soil following Operation Desert Storm by inviting 18 U.S. military servicemen from the U.S. military base in Dharan, Saudi Arabia to view from a special vantage point Islam's holiest shrine, the Kabaa in Mecca. Already, Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden had railed against the presence of the infidel Americans on Saudi soil.

          The decision to invite the Americans came as the Bush 41 administration was preparing to hand over power to the Clinton administration. However, rather than being on their best behavior, the U.S. servicemen got drunk and tried to physically enter the area of the Kabaa, which is off limits to non-believers of Islam.

          A group of Islamic pilgrims pleaded with the American military personnel not to enter the Kabaa Square and then tried to physically restrain them from entering the holy site. The Americans attacked the pilgrims, even throwing beer cans at them, and rushed into the sanctuary. Pakistani security personnel, on loan from the Pakistani military, opened fire on the Americans, killing all 18.

          The Council of Senior Ulma met and demanded that all U.S. military forces be immediately withdrawn from Saudi Arabia. After the United States refused, the council issued a fatwa against the United States military. An ISI officer explained how high up the decision to issue the fatwa went by twirling his index finger in an upward spiraling motion. Although the fatwa was a unanimous decision by the Islamic council's representatives, it is believed that the Sufi member leaked the decision and its reason to Pakistani intelligence.

          The fatwa's language specified that the retaliation for the blasphemy be carried out by an Islamic cleric. Shaikh Omar Abdel Rahman, a blind Egyptian Islamic cleric living in New York, was selected to carry out the retaliation. Rahman, a CIA recruiting asset from the Afghan mujaheddin war with the Soviet Union, entered the United States via Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Sudan in 1990. In February 1993, the Mecca fatwa was carried out when the World Trade Center was bombed.

          Even though Rahman was linked to Osama bin Laden and Sudan, that evidence was never brought forward in his trial, according to a CIA non-official cover officer who spoke to us. It was chief federal prosecutors Patrick Fitzgerald and Michael Chertoff who decided not to enter into evidence page after page of untranslated transcripts of intercepts of Arabic and Farsi communications, including intercepted communications between the Sudanese mission to the UN in New York and Khartoum, that pointed to high-level Saudi clerical involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

          The reticence was due to Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda organization still being CIA assets for the CIA and Britain's MI-6 in 1993 and 1994. ... The Saudi fatwa was still in effect when the Khobar Towers housing U.S. military personnel was bombed on June 25, 1996. The site was chosen because it was the home to the troops who barged into Mecca in the 1993 "Mecca Incident."

          ...

          Intelligence agencies on the Indian subcontinent are well aware of the Mecca Incident but it has been studiously kept from the American public. In addition, there is a strong possibility that the 18 U.S. deaths were explained away as combat casualties in Somalia, invaded by U.S. troops during the lame duck period of George H. W. Bush in December 1992 and January 1993.


          This is rather regular fare from Madsen -- absolutely jaw-dropping journalism spelling out who what where when why and how, just the facts, and today's media have never seen anything like it. Indeed, the neutral-voice journalist-observer tone constantly reminds one of MediaMatters researches.
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          • Author by Meremark (November 16, 2009 3:55 am ET)
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            - addendum - I meant to include this other partial Report by Madsen, a couple years before and with details pertaining to the above:

            Aug. 27, 2006 -- U.S. federal prosecutors suppressed critical evidence in trial of 1993 World Trade Center bombers.

            According to U.S. intelligence sources, the FBI and Justice Department sat on volumes of translations of Arabic telephone intercepts gathered before the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center from U.S.- and Sudan-based Muslim militants who once worked for U.S. intelligence in the mujaheddin war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. The critical intelligence, which demonstrated a link between the CIA and "Afghan Arab" muhajeddin forces, including those loyal to Osama bin Laden, was never introduced into the trial of the Brooklyn- and Jersey City-based based cell that included the blind Egyptian cleric Shaikh Omar Abdul Rahman, Ramzi Yousef, and Eyad Ismail. The New York and New Jersey cell also included Ali Mohammed, a graduate of the U.S. Army's Special Forces School at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, who, while an active duty member of the Special Forces, secretly traveled to Afghanistan to train Bin Laden's forces and provide special intelligence on U.S. "soft targets" for terrorist attacks, and Wadih el-Hage, Osama bin Laden's personal secretary, who was also a resident of the United States. ...


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            • Author by Lizinbklyn (November 16, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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              Methinks these chickenhawk neocons are protesting toooo much about holding an OPEN trial in the Southern District of New . .

              YEAH, just toooo much information for the WORLD to digest about the Bushies and their wars!!

              Jeez, Falafel Man's head is exploding, OMG . .
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          • Author by vhw28672478 (November 16, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
               
            Prove it
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (November 14, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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      Just what would RUSH want done to these prisoners? Shoot first and ask questions later? That's really AMERICAN isn't it.
      Look at RUSH putting down JOHN KERRY.A man who served two tours in VIETNAM while RUSH sat on his fat, cowardly butt safe back here.
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    • Author by Mr. Diener (November 15, 2009 1:53 am ET)
         
      "Rush finished this off by declaring that this trial would destroy the CIA, a charge he repeated several times throughout his show."
      "Dein Wort in Gottes Ohr"
      We chose to ignore the results of democratic process
      when the results did not appear to be amenable
      with our stated agenda of opposition to the Soviet Blok.
      Historically:
      Italy's elections of 1948
      Mohammed Mossadegh of Iran in 1953
      Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán, democratically elected President of Guatemala 1954
      Laos 1957-1973
      Jose Velasco, democratically elected President of Ecuador 1961
      Patrice Lumumba, democratically elected leader of the Congo (Zaire)
      Juan Bosch, democratically elected leader of the Dominican Republic, 1963
      Arosemana, democratically elected President of Ecuador, 1963
      Joao Goulart, democratically elected leader of Brazil, 1964
      Sukarno ( Kusno Sosrodihardjo), democratically elected leader of Indonesia
      George Papandreous, favored to win the democratic elections of Greece, 1967
      Juan Torres, democratically elected leader of Bolivia, 1971

      The last historical figure I will take time to list is Iconic:
      Salvador Allende, Latin America's first democratically elected socialist leader, 1973
      Further atrocities and abominations against man and God here:
      http://www.serendipity.li/cia/cia_time.htm

      Currently:
      Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is of interest,
      as he IMO represents the 'acid test' of our potential new policies.
      "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United … This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 USD billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."
      Pithy summary of our Cold War policy,
      courtesy of the former US Presidential Candidate "Reverend" Pat Robertson,
      in regards to democratically elected Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
      Explicit historically documented evidence of our Cold War Policy:http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

      Not accusation.
      Fact: Historically recorded, documented, cold blooded CIA-approved Fact.
      Our Cold War Policy, embodied by the CIA NEEDSto be pilloried by a public, very public, trial
      Augusto Pinochet of Chile
      Iranian Shah Reza Pahlavi
      Idi Amin Dada of Uganda
      "Papa Doc" & "Baby Doc" Duvalier of Haiti
      King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia
      Generalissimo Francisco Franco Bahamonde of Spain
      Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan of Pakistan
      Muhammad Ayub Khan of Pakistan
      el-Haj Mohammed Suharto of Indonesia,

      Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos of the Philipines
      Gen. Manuel Noriega of Panama
      Saddam Hussein of Iraq

      Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei Darussalam.
      Prince Muqrin Bin Abdul-Aziz of Saudi Arabia.
      And lastly, but perhaps foremost in achieving consensus of opinion:
      Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden of Saudi Arabia.

      The CIA's Chickens,
      legacy of an era we are long since past,
      are overdue for roasting.
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    • Author by Mr. Diener (November 15, 2009 2:02 am ET)
         
      Interesting.

      Is it just me, or does the phrase
      "he's going to have trouble pulling the trigger on more troops over there"
      seem to indicate the execution of our own troops?
      Poor use of a colloquialism? or Freudian slip?
      You be the judge...
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    • Author by bluestate69 (November 15, 2009 9:03 am ET)
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      of course rush is going to exploit this. he sees political gains. and for once, i agree with him. this will make it really easy for the gop to take over congress and possibly the presidency in 2012. i have no problem with the trials, but in new york city????? you've got to be kidding me. this could be done some other way. it will be a circus, and it will give terrorists and republicans a platform. its just dumb politics, and it will cost democrats congress. you can say i'm being political, but being political is what got obama and holder into office. this is the kind of decision that is so bad, that it causes other issues to arise against the president. i am very upset, cause i feel like holder just destroyed all of the gains we made. i see major regression coming in the next elections if obama doesn't get it together. it looks bad too. can we have confidence in an administration that announces a decision this major, the day that the commander in chief is leaving on a major trip overseas?????
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    • Author by Marge (November 15, 2009 10:16 am ET)
         
      You know what. If they could shut this guy up, we could maybe cut carbon pollution by a third. With all that hot air he spews he sure junks up the atmosphere.
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    • Author by TJ_rex (November 15, 2009 8:18 pm ET)
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      Thanks for the continued coverage of, The Biggest Psycho! It's always entertaining to hear how far this draft dodger goes each week. And it gives me a heads up on what his die hard wing-nut fans will be babbling about.
      Keep up the good work!
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    • Author by mukraker (November 16, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
         
      Bigger question than the trial is who will house the convicted (no chance of acquittals). The Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) will be in charge of the convicted. Read this post by a former inmate at the prison camp at Schuylkill FCI in Minersville Pennsylvania, a BOP prison. http://fprison.wordpress.com The inmates are partying 24/7 on the taxpayer dollar, everyone from street level crack dealers to major league financial scammers like Joe Nacchio and Andrew Fastow of Enron infamy. The Federal Bureau of Prisons is too corrupt to be in charge of the incarceration of large numbers of foreign inmates who are politically oriented. You will end up with Guantanamo facilities on US soil run by the BOP.
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    • Author by wzwriter (November 16, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
         
      Rush: "[T]his poor guy McChrystal ... has to sit there and listen to a community organizer"
      And Rush's listeners have to sit there and listen to a transport system for an anal cyst....
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