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What Grinch? Fox's Hemmer and Camerota mislead on "War on Christmas" story

November 17, 2009 12:51 pm ET — 40 Comments

Fox News' America's Newsroom aired a segment hyping a story on an elementary school in Boston that had prohibited Christmas-themed gifts from being sold in the school's holiday gift shop, which co-host Bill Hemmer suggested is evidence of "the War on Christmas ... raging again." However, the school's ban reportedly includes all items that can be associated with a specific religion and is not limited to Christmas.

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America's Newsroom says the "War on Christmas" is "underway," "raging" because of school ban on Christmas items in holiday gift shop

From the November 17 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

HEMMER (co-host): Hey, can you have a holiday fundraiser without the holiday? I mean, you know, can you?

ALISYN CAMEROTA (guest co-host): I think it's just called a fundraiser.

HEMMER: I see. One school is saying no candy canes, no red and green wrapping paper --

CAMEROTA: What?

HEMMER: -- and absolutely, positively no such thing as Santa Claus. Is the War on Christmas yet raging again? Already?

[...]

CAMEROTA: Well, the air is getting a little crisp these days. Thanksgiving, of course, is just around the corner. And that means the War on Christmas is underway.

The latest battle is in Chelmsford, Massachusetts -- that's just north of Boston -- and apparently the gift shop at the local elementary school has some new rules this year. Let's just say the Grinch could have written them. Fox-25 in Boston explains the items you won't find at the gift shop.

[...]

CAMEROTA: All right, that was Fox-25's Frank Mallicoat reporting. Red and green tissue paper is a separation of church and state? No Santa Claus?

HEMMER: I can't make sense of it, you know? When I saw my first Christmas lights up before Halloween, I knew the economy was really hurting. I mean, they're telling America, "Buy. We need the money."

CAMEROTA: Incredible what's going on. We should also note that two parents plan to protest the decision before the school's committee later this month, so we'll keep you posted as to what happens there.

However, the ban reportedly extends to all religious holidays, not just Christmas

WFXT Fox-25: School ban included "all Christmas, Hanukkah and other 'religious items' from being sold." According to an article on the local Fox affiliate WFXT Fox-25's website, "The Byam Elementary School has decided to ban Santa, candy canes, stockings, and all Christmas, Hanukkah and other 'religious items' from being sold at the annual holiday gift shop." The report also says that superintendent Donald Yeoman asserted "that the rules were mandated so that no child would be left out."

Lowell Sun quotes superintendent saying ban has been in place for years. The Lowell Sun, a local newspaper, also noted that the ban included "Hanukkah and other 'religious items' " and quoted Yeoman as saying the store had "operated under those same rules for a number of years with success and without complaint."

Boston Globe: "Longstanding" ban is on "religious items." The Boston Globe reported on November 17 that the school's policy is "longstanding" and bans "religious items." From the article:

A Chelmsford elementary school's holiday gift fund-raiser is at the center of a town controversy after two residents complained about a longstanding policy banning religious items at the annual event.

Each year, parents purchase small trinkets and donate them to the parent teacher organization at Byam Elementary School. During the day, students buy the items to give as gifts for family members, and the PTO receives the profits, said Donald Yeoman, Chelmsford's superintendent.

In 1982, recognizing a diverse student body of different religions, the PTO and school banned anything "to do with a religion or a religious celebration,'' Yeoman said.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (November 17, 2009 12:54 pm ET)
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      I thought the "WAR ON CHRISTMAS" was soooooo 2007.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 17, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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        It ain't over til it's over !!
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        • Author by rtwmd1230 (November 17, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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          You're either with us or you're aginst us.
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          • Author by dexteritas0071418 (November 17, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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            Hmm, christmas terrorists...throwing luminaries into crowded shopping centers and forcing innocents to eat mistletoe..
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            • Author by John Paradox (November 17, 2009 9:36 pm ET)
                 
              Reminds me of the Doctor Who episode: The Christmas Invasion.

              http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S0_01
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        • Author by worrierking (November 17, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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          Some day, our children's children will ask, "What did you do in The War on Christmas Gramps"?

          You and I as veterans of this god awful war will have plenty of tales to tell them.
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          • Author by DellDolly (November 17, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
               
            Totally off topic - is everyone watching the new WW II show on the History Channel? It's pretty cool!
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    • Author by southerngal (November 17, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
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      So what if you have a holiday gift shop and nothing from the holiday shows up? Santa Claus is not a religious item?

      Why even have it then?
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 17, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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        It's not a gift shop with holiday items. It's a gift shop. Kids make purchases there for the holiday, but not gifts about the holiday.

        Parents buy little trinkets, then donate them to the gift shop.

        Kids then go in, buy an item, give it to a family member, and the PTO gets the purchase price. Kids don't have to go to a 'store' to buy things for their family and friends this way, and the PTO gets money.

        But the store is not intended to sell holiday items. It's intended to sell gifts to be given during the holiday.
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        • Author by markbfoot199 (November 18, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
             
          Dell, the holiday is know as Christmas or Hanukkah. I promise you will not blow up if you say it, it is ok.
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    • Author by Max Credits (November 17, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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      Just yesterday, the Boston Red Sox announced its annual "Christmas at Fenway Celebration". War sure is hell.
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    • Author by open_mind (November 17, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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      There is such a thing as secular Christmas after all. What on Earth do the colors red and green, Christmas trees or even Santa Claus have to do with anything in the Bible?

      I think the ban goes a little overboard, but it should be up to the local community to iron-out. They don't need a torrent of Fox "News" dingbats from all over getting into the fray.
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      • Author by southerngal (November 17, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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        Absolutely
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (November 17, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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        They don't need a torrent of Fox "News" dingbats from all over getting into the fray.

        Just ask the parents/children/teachers/administration of the school that sang the Obama song.
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (November 18, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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        Open Mind, so tell me about this Secular Christmas, Whom is your Christ? What is involved in your Mass?
        The word for Christmas in late Old English is Cristes Maesse, the Mass of Christ.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (November 17, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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      Oh no, the dreaded "War on Christmas" is on again.
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    • Author by caels (November 17, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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      You would think that if secular progressives were launching this unprecedented war against Christmas we could do a little better than eliminating religious items from a school gift shop. If this is the level of damage that can be imposed by the anti-Christmas, bigoted, secularists I don't understand how anyone could possibly worry about this at all.

      I think secular progressives need to step it up a bit, take off the kiddie gloves. If this much hysteria is caused from episodes like banning religious items from school gift shops or having Target say "Happy Holidays" imagine the damage that could be done if they even attempted to eliminate Christmas as a federal holiday. The whole conservative movement might implode on itself just due to the utter chaos it would cause.
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    • Author by LarryE (November 17, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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      The truth of the matter - that the ban is more than 20 years old, has never had a complaint until now, and applies to all religions - was so easily ascertained that this case just serves as more proof (if proof was needed) that the right-wing media doesn't care if it's true or not, if their story is "misleading" (more properly, a lie) or not. They care only about if it serves an ideological purpose.
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    • Author by open_mind (November 17, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
         
      Well I have always been one to think it is utter blasphemy to say or to do anything about Christmas until after Thanksgiving. Part of the fun of goint to relative's houses was seeing all of the decorations people put up on the way back after Thanksgiving and singing Christmas carols.
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    • Author by bintx (November 17, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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      This bugs the snot out of me EVERY year. These people, many of them Catholic, make the assumption that because THEY celebrate Christmas as a "Christian" holiday, many mainstream Christian churches DO NOT. The public Christmas traditions [trees, yule logs, gift giving, etc.] in this country are not based on traditional Christian beliefs . . . most of them were adopted from pagan rituals and secular celebrations. Christmas celebrations were BANNED in the early days of this country because they were considered pagan.

      As a "woman of a certain age," I can tell you that I've been hearing "Happy Holidays" my whole life. The song "Happy Holiday" was written in 1942 for the movie "Holiday Inn" with BuhBuhBuhBing Crosby. [That was in my mother's childhood.] Was the "War on Christmas" raging then, too? Give me a break!
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      • Author by bintx (November 17, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
           
        "These people, many of them Catholic, make the assumption that because THEY celebrate Christmas as a "Christian" holiday, ALL Christians do; however, many mainstream Christian churches DO NOT."

        Sorry, left out that important little phrase.
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        • Author by markbfoot199 (November 18, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
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          Also forgot to ask, please tell us about these Mainstream Christian Churches that do not celebrate the birth of Christ?
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (November 18, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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        Bi, the movie was about a Bar / Inn that was only open during the Holidays, hence the song Happy Holidays.
        Also the same movie where he sings "White Christmas"

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034862/synopsis
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 18, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
             
          Which doesn't change her point in the least that she's been hearing the phrase "Happy holidays" her entire life. I'm 49 and I can say the same. "Happy holidays" has been an acceptable greeting for this season for all of my life. It isn't as though it's something new someone came up with to exclude Christmas. The phrase is simply more inclusive than "Merry Christmas" and isn't exclusive of it at all.
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    • Author by Fried Chicken (November 17, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
         
      Good god what a bunch of BS media matters is reporting.
      seems fine they cherry pick what media matters sees fit to report on the other news station.
      I watched that story today, and it was more than just about selling gifts from one religion.

      But then again media matters is all about spewing DNC krap.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (November 17, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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      There is a YouTube video of some musical group recording themselves singing some song about how it is called Merry Christmas and that calling it Happy Holidays is tantamount to slapping God across the face or some such childishness!

      This War on X-Mas is getting rather pathetic and since Cluster Fox is the only place were one can find it being fought... well, if the shoe fits
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      • Author by knowhelpnow (November 18, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
           
        I saw that one and commented on it and all hell broke out because I asked these simple questions "Has anyone ever been put down by saying Merry Christmas in this country? I then question what was the reason behind this song?"
        I was called everything but a Patriotic American; with one women who called herself "italiansexgoddess" who said she was Catholic calling me and anyone that tried to reason with her an a**h**e, f**king idiot and f**king everything she could think of in the name of Jesus of course.
        You don't mess with these radical people and for gods sake don't tell them that the USA was NOT established by our founding fathers to be a Christian country. If they could of got to me I wouldn't be writing this.
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    • Author by marco21 (November 17, 2009 8:04 pm ET)
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      Yes, the War on Christmas is back!

      What never went away? Fox's War on Journalism!
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    • Author by Romario (November 17, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
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      Geez...this "War on Christmas" crap is so lame at this point...no one cares anymore (not that anyone cared before). This dog don't hunt no more.
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    • Author by John Paradox (November 17, 2009 9:40 pm ET)
         
      My favorite Christmas celebration is Stan Freberg's Green Chri$tma$...

      "Angels we have heard on high, telling us 'go out and buy'"
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      • Author by LarryE (November 17, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
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        "Angels we have heard on high, telling us 'go out and buy'"

        Actually, that was Tom Lehrer.
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (November 18, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
           
        Well thanks to Obama many individuals will not get a chance to "go out and buy". 10.2% Blues may be the song they sing this year.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 18, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
             
          That's stupid. The seeds of this growth in unemployment were planted long before Obama took office and there is nothing anyone can point to that shows he made things any worse.
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    • Author by pootersox (November 18, 2009 7:50 am ET)
         
      But of course!

      There *is* no other religion but Christianity!!

      The rest of us are beyond the pale and *should* be regularly (and forcefully where necessary) exposed to Christian icons, beliefs, prayers, values, and symbols so that eventually we are worn down into acceptance.

      Good God! We are probably atheistic communist-fascists!!

      /sarcasm off
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    • Author by jcutler9 (November 18, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
         
      Christmas war on
      What would Jesus say, if he passed you on the street during the holidays? And what would He think the signs should say that hang above the GI Joes, Barbies, video war games, and guns? Would he care?

      The "War on Christmas" is not waged by heathen/atheist/agnostic/secular citizens, but by the far-right fundies and talking heads masquerading as Christians who seek to impose their ideology on everyone till now the joy of Christmas is gone. I get a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach every year a couple of months before the holiday season, just anticipating the assault by the theocrats on the season itself--their attacks on stores that don't put up the "correct" signs, clerks who don't use the "correct" greeting, schools that don't have the "correct" programs or activities, towns that don't put up the "correct" lights or displays. I am afraid to say any greeting to a clerk or passerby for fear I will be spat upon. I do not even want to go out in public during the so-called holiday season. They have already started attacks on the Obama's for what they are or are not doing by way of celebration in the White House, all lies and innuendoes. Do you remember even the attacks on their beloved chosen-by-God-himself President Bush because his holiday card did not say "Merry Christmas" or show a Nativity scene? Brent Bozell, I believe it was, threw his in the trash. I suppose my friends and family throw away my cards because they say "Peace." Apparently X-ians no longer take any pleasure in the season, because they are so seething with rage at those who celebrate differently than they do, and speak different greetings. It seems to me that this holiday season should be for all of us, to celebrate as we choose, no offense meant, no offense taken. The blood that flows warm through my veins is not the blood of the early X-ians, who were of Middle Eastern and Mediterranean blood, but the blood of the Pagan Celts of the British Isles and Northern Europe, and like them I will celebrate the Winter Solstice by bringing in the greens, the tree, the logs, decorating with lights and baubles, baking breads and cakes, preparing a steaming kettle of cider or the like, and saying, to each and every person, and to you,
      GUT YUL
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