Quick Fact: Beck falsely claims no jobs are being "saved or created"
On the December 2 edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that "jobs are not being saved or created" and that the Obama administration is "creating the make-believe 'saved or created' category" for jobs. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently estimated that the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009, which was heavily promoted by President Obama, created 1.6 million jobs, and the Bush administration repeatedly stated that its economic initiatives had "saved or created" jobs.
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Beck: "[J]obs are not being saved or created"
From the December 2 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
BECK: And the bogus claim of putting people back to work? Please. We have lost 4 million jobs since this man took office. I'm not saying that it's his fault; I'm just saying let's deal with reality. That's why they're creating the make-believe "saved or created" category. I'm expecting to see flying reindeer soon.
If you or someone you know hasn't been affected by joblessness yet, it will soon become apparent that the jobs are not being saved or created -- I mean, unless they're in one of the other 57 states.
Fact: CBO estimated the stimulus created 1.6 million jobs
CBO estimated GDP increase of 1.2 percent to 3.2 percent, additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people employed due to Recovery Act. In a November report, the CBO stated:
CBO estimates that in the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States, and real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) was 1.2 percent to 3.2 percent higher, than would have been the case in the absence of ARRA (see Table 1). Those ranges are intended to reflect the uncertainty of such estimates and to encompass most economists' views on the effects of fiscal stimulus. [CBO's Estimated Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act on Employment and Economic Output as of September 2009, November 2009]
Fact: Several Bush administration officials touted initiatives in terms of jobs "saved or created"
Bush Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman: "[R]ural development programs have saved or created more than 500,000 jobs." On June 24, 2004, then-Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman stated: "We have estimated that our rural development programs have saved or created more than 500,000 jobs just since the Bush Administration took office in January of 2001." [Accessed via the Nexis database]
Veneman's replacement Mike Johanns: "[E]conomic development in rural areas ... will help save or create more than 1,800 jobs." According to a March 24, 2005, Agriculture Department news release, Mike Johanns -- who replaced Veneman as Agriculture secretary -- stated: "These funds are part of the Bush Administration's ongoing efforts to spur economic development in rural areas and will help save or create more than 1,800 jobs."
Agriculture Undersecretary Thomas C. Dorr "announced the award of $19.75 million to create or retain jobs." According to a May 7, 2007, Agriculture Department news release, then-Agriculture Undersecretary Thomas C. Dorr stated:
Agriculture Under Secretary Thomas C. Dorr today announced the award of $19.75 million to create or retain jobs at rural businesses.
"These funds will help support local economic development agencies, finance infrastructure improvements, establish low-interest revolving loan funds, and help jurisdictions implement regional business and community development plans," Dorr said. "The funding announced today is expected to save or create more than 2,300 jobs in 20 states."
Glenn Beck you got some Splaining to do?
Mr. News
Where i could Besmirch a Man that gave his all for a Country divided in Combat.
Abraham Lincoln is America's most important President.
He Changed a Nation for the Better & caused us all to be less Reticent.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
So, are you teed off at the businesses and municipalities for making the initial mistake, or are you mad at the Obama Administration for not leaving the mistake unfixed?
Or are you just a troll making a troll post about an old story you're trying to resurrect?
I choose Door # 3.
They make their money because there are enough 'ignorant, uneducated fool's out there.
Education is the best medicine for ignorance and one these guys do not want Americans to get it.
Spewing talking points doesn't make you knowledgeable.
The smartest response to a troll post is a derogatory response or two to knock down the strawmen raised and nothing else - when someone clearly indicates that they don't want to learn anything, why should I provide any evidence? If you wanted the evidence, you could find it yourself.
Thanks for again confirming that my reply was perfectly suited to your behavior and your attitude! I knew I was right the first time, but it never hurts to have it confirmed by further troll posts!
So we know that fleecing is going and Unprecedented Barry is taking credit for jobs that just aren't there.
As the Rajun Cajun once said..."it's the economy stupid". Unprecedented B would be wise to listen to heed that advice.
Where did you lift your latest slur about the president, freerepublic? I'll just bet that you are one of the folks who complained constantly about the names that GWB was called. I disagreed vehemently with the incompetence and failures of the Bush administration, not because of the letter in the () behind his name, but because of the destruction it presented for our country . . . I NEVER called him a childish name. I don't agree with a lot of Mr. Obama's actions, but I'm not going to base my opinions on something I picked up from a hate blog. He's been president for 10 months and inherited a GINORMOUS cluster-you know what from the previous administration. I'm willing to give him a little time.
GROW UP!
The recovery.gov site has reports from businesses. If they do a sloppy job of reporting data, then the data is sloppy. It's not the Obama Administration's fault. But the administration DID do their job to try to police that data collected to remove the outliers and the incorrect data, so if some businesses did wildly exaggerate, that's been fixed for the most part. And it was only a small percentage of the overall jobs reported anyway that had any accuracy issues! But of course you leave out that tidbit - how dishonest of you to do so.
But there are other measures of jobs created, and the recovery.gov site only captures a few of them that are directly related to stimulus funds. There are many more jobs created, and so the numbers that the White House site has are gross underestimates, actually.
But see, you're grossly uneducated on this topic - you don't know what you're talking about, and yet you come here trying to educate us. Why do you dunces do that?
Randy
Stimulus = Political payoff
P.S. MMFA censor
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I don't consider 5 to 6 hours as soon as possible. If you don't want me to post anymore just tell me. You have my e-mail address.
The CBO report that you provided a link to gives the whole report. The title of the report is "Estimated Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act on Employment and Economic Output as of September 2009"
The key word is Estimated... since the report states that "Such reports, however, do not provide a comprehensive estimate of the law's impact on employment in the United States."
In fact since the government is getting the reports from the "Recipients" and the recipients are the ones reporting that 640,000 jobs were created or retained with ARRA that is the point that should be in doubt since the Unemployment rate is the highest in the past 19 years.
Fact: North Carolina the state where I live the Unemployment rate is 10.7% compared to 19 years ago at 4.1%.
While the government site www.recovery.gov states that the jobs saved/ or created in North Carolina was 28,073 but the unemployment rate has been climbing.
Those are facts...
So Beck was right... the government needs better accounting and reporting.
In case some are wondering what "Estimated" means just take your car to a repair shop and ask for a estimate and then see what your final bill really is.
My opinion... and just mine. The ARRA was a stop gap to stop the rapidly falling economy. Without the ARRA then the Banks would have failed and there would have been another depression and we would be in worst shape now.
And those who wants to really fact check here are the links.
http://www.bls.gov/
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/StateSummaries/Pages/statesummary.aspx?StateCode=NC
Isn't that statement an oxymoron?
If it really created THAT many jobs, why does the unemployment rate keep rising?
At least MMFA didn't cite Recovery.gov as their source. The information there was embarassingly debunked already.
Is this what is too confusing for the simple minds amongst us? Thanks for clarifying that for us. Even though jobs have been created or saved, that does not mean that there were not more jobs lost. If we lose more jobs than we create, unemployment would still go up. Is that simple enough for you?