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Quick Fact: Rove claims proposed $250 checks intended to pacify seniors "angry about Medicare cuts that the administration's proposing"

December 08, 2009 3:20 pm ET — 23 Comments

Fox News contributor Karl Rove claimed that an Obama administration proposal to send $250 checks to senior citizens was spurred because seniors are "angry about Medicare cuts that the administration's proposing." In fact, the Obama administration has stated that the checks are a response to the lack of a cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) for Social Security in 2010.

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From the December 8 edition of Fox News' Happening Now:

ROVE: Well, look, the economy is going to recover. The question is, is it gonna -- are the things that we do going to retard its recovery or speed up its recovery? Saying we're gonna give people money to retrofit their homes for energy efficiency, or we're gonna give them money if they buy an energy-efficient appliance, or we're gonna give $250 to every senior because they're angry about Medicare cuts that the administration's proposing -- those things will not hasten the day when Americans go back to work.

Fact: Proposed checks to Social Security beneficiaries intended to offset lack of COLA increase

As President Obama explained during a town hall meeting in New Orleans, the one-time payment of $250 to seniors and others on a "fixed income" would roughly offset the absence of a COLA increase to their benefits under Social Security. From his remarks:

OBAMA: Well, first of all, let me point out that under the formula Social Security would not see a COLA this year, an automatic COLA increase because we've actually had deflation. Right? Costs have gone six percent. But because of the hardships that folks on fixed income have still experienced, I've been supportive of the idea that a one-time $250 payment to seniors would be an appropriate approach which would approximate -- would come out to about 1.8 percent increase. Okay. So that just deals with the issue of what's going on with Social Security. [Town hall, 10/15/2009]

Indeed, CNNMoney.com reported on October 15 that "There will be no cost-of-living increase for 57 million Social Security beneficiaries next year because consumer prices have fallen," adding, "It marks the first time that Social Security benefits have not been increased year over year since the cost-of-living adjustment was put into effect in 1975." The article further reported:

To help counterbalance the hit, President Obama is calling on Congress to send another $250 relief payment to seniors and other Americans to stem the economic strain.

"Even as we seek to bring about recovery, we must act on behalf of those hardest hit by this recession," Obama said in a statement Wednesday. "That is why I am announcing my support for an additional $250 in emergency recovery assistance to seniors, veterans, and people with disabilities to help them make it through these difficult times."

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    • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
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      Bad idea Obama. Picking and choosing the benefactor of the month for government money only irks those who weren't singled out. Either COLA works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, fix it from the ground up. This is no way to handout money.
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      • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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        No, it's not a bad idea. Obama had nothing to do with the lack of a COLA increase this year. As for it being "no way to handout money," I sure enjoyed my check I got from Mr. Bush to try to assuage my disgust with his pandering to the wealthy.
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        • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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          If he had nothing to do with the lack of a COLA increase, then he has no business trying to correct it, or whatever he says the reason is for handing out money.
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          • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
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            Are you serious? That's just silly.

            BTW, my parents and grandmother [97 on January 2] will not get increases this year. They aren't complaining. They understand the situation. They will enjoy the $250. When one lives on a fixed income, every little bit helps.
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            • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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              That is not the point. We don't go around cherry picking what group gets government money like this and what group doesn't, just because "every little bit helps". If the system paying it out is antiquated, or unfair, or needs an overhaul or a reevaluation, then do it. I have a friend on unemployment who just got hit with a major medical expense, should he be able to get more from his unemployment check this month because of it? No, he won't. We don't operate like that, or we shouldn't.
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              • Author by peace4all (December 08, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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                sorry to hear about your friend, but if we had a single payer healthcare system like most of the world at least he wouldn't have to worry about being sick while out of work.
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              • Author by SFnomad (December 08, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
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                We don't go around cherry picking what group gets government money like this and what group doesn't ...

                TARP, Halliburton, Cash for Clunkers (Auto Industry), Bank Bailout, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, AIG, Bear Stearns ...

                There seems to be a whole lot of cherry picking going on.
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                • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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                  And I would be against all of them. I never said it never happens, I said it shouldn't. It is inherently unfair.
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                  • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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                    And I would also say, anytime you give one group something you automatically slight another, because you can't give to all. And that is not fair.
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              • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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                I have a friend who has been unemployed since April . . . she just had her benefits extended . . . is that a problem.

                Actually, if you are a conservative then you understand that yes, we SHOULD operate like that. To be conservative is to adhere to tradition and in THIS country, the tradition is to care for those less fortunate. Guess you missed that.

                And, if we had National Health Care like every other civilized country in the world, your friend and I wouldn't have to worry about getting hit with a major medical expense.
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                • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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                  But the benefit extension did not just go to a certain group based on some bureaucrat's evaluation of their need, it went to all. The law was changed. It was just not a willy nilly emotional and/or political bandaid. So your example went more to what I was saying.

                  And I am also supportive of caring for those less fortunate, I just don't need government to come in and take my money to do it.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (December 08, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
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                    I just don't need government to come in and take my money to do it.

                    More whining. So, in your deranged scenario, someone with medical bills they can't pay or need money for food/shelter should go door to door asking for help or sit on a street corner selling pencils.

                    Thanks for caring.
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              • Author by ScienceBuff (December 08, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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                ... I have a friend ... - right ON

                I don't believe you.

                j / k
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        • Author by leftofwhat (December 08, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
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          this was karl rove speaking.bush listened to him for 12 years.i don't think he deserves a response,but jail time...see valerie plame.
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      • Author by DellDolly (December 08, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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        COLA doesn't work perfectly for seniors. They are less affected by some measures of the cost of living going up in the COLA formula and more affected by other expenses.

        They probably got over-rewarded this past year because of that badly-weighted COLA and were to get underrewarded this coming year. It's not really an option to take back some of that extra money that they got last year or explain to them how they got too much money, so the only option available is to give them some compensation for the lack of a COLA this year.

        It's fair. Not fair to everyone, but it's the fairest thing that can be done at this point in time.
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        • Author by southerngal (December 08, 2009 6:11 pm ET)
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          That is the most convoluted bunch of nonsense you have posted in awhile SuzyDolly. So seniors were over-rewarded this past year so now we are going to give them more this year? And because we can't take money back from them we are going to compensate them more this year?

          What's not fair is me falling off my chair laughing at that post of yours and nearly breaking my neck. You are a gem Sue, you really are!

          LOL!!
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          • Author by DellDolly (December 08, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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            Not my fault you can't understand it.

            I never said we're giving them more this year because we gave them too much last year, but yeah, that's about it - because they got so much last year, and because they have become accustomed to getting extra each year, they're getting a bonus this year too.

            I never said I approved of it, but simply was explaining it to you.

            Sorry it was beyond your capability to understand.
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            • Author by southerngal (December 09, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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              Baloney, you said it was fair which definitely implies approval. You spin yourself around with so many contradictions you can't keep anything straight. I still don't know whether it's pure dishonesty or just poor intellect. Either way, you don't look good.
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      • Author by my4cents (December 08, 2009 9:24 pm ET)
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        So you believe, and disagree with, that the $250 check is to pacify seniors?
        benefactor of the month? You sound like Limbaugh yourself.
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    • Author by goesto11 (December 08, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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      Which is totally different from the $1200 checks Bush threw at all of us who were angry about the ridiculously irresponsible tax cuts they passed.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 10, 2009 9:04 am ET)
           
        I am not saying I totally disagree with Obama on this one. It is a tough situation, both politically and in reality. But, I don't think RightOn is saying he endorsed G-Dub's tactics of throwing out money to make people think they were paying less in taxes. They are not totally unrelated, but I do not see an endorsement of either from RightOn.
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    • Author by worrierking (December 08, 2009 5:37 pm ET)
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      It's probably a trick. Give the seniors a check and when they accept it, their Social Security will be taken over by the gub'mint.
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      • Author by carolinaken (December 09, 2009 7:21 am ET)
           
        I volunteer to help Seniors every day and here is a small list of what is happening to them right now:
        Power bill up 7%
        auto insurance up 5%
        food up 4% every 3 months
        telephone up 4%
        cable ,if they can afford it is up 4%
        personal and property tax up 5%
        medical copays up 5%
        natural gas up 8%

        Add all this up and WHO is the poorer this economy ?
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