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Breitbart's headline falsely claimed Gore "admit[ted]" temps cause CO2 increases but "not the other way around"

December 09, 2009 6:36 pm ET — 16 Comments

A headline at Andrew Breitbart's website Breitbart.tv falsely claimed that Al Gore admitted that "temperatures cause CO2 to increase not other way around." In fact, in Gore's 2007 congressional testimony that Breitbart highlighted, Gore acknowledged that temperature increases have occasionally preceded CO2 increases, but also that "[t]he opposite has also been true in the past"; moreover, Breitbart omitted Gore's ensuing comments, which reflect the overwhelming scientific consensus on global warming, that "what's happening now is that we because of human action are overwhelming all of those cycles."

Breitbart.tv headline: "Gore Admits Temperatures Cause CO2 To Increase Not Other Way Around"

From Breitbart.tv, accessed December 9:

Screen capture of breitbart.tv headline

Gore explicitly rejected the notion that "temperatures cause CO2 to increase not other way around"

Gore: "The opposite has also been true in the past. But what's happening now is that we because of human action are overwhelming all of those cycles." On March 21, 2007, during a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee hearing, Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) stated, "I have an article from the Science magazine, which I will put into the record at the appropriate time, that explains historically a rise in CO2 concentrations did not precede a rise in temperatures but actually lagged temperature by 200 to 1,000 years -- yes, lagged. CO2 levels went up after the temperature rose. It appears that temperature appears to drive CO2, not vice versa." During his response, Gore stated, "[T]he fact that more CO2 traps more heat in the lower part of the Earth's atmosphere is really beyond dispute. I mean, it's not -- that's not me saying that; that's what the scientists have known for 180 years. And for 100 years they've done the calculations on pretty much exactly what the magnitude of the heating effect is." After Barton then claimed that "the temperature goes up before the CO2 goes up," Gore responded:

GORE: Sometimes that has been true in the past. The opposite has also been true in the past. But what's happening now is that we because of human action are overwhelming all of those cycles. [Joint House committee hearing, 3/21/07 (accessed via Nexis)]

Breitbart ignored larger point, central to consensus, that global warming is "overwhelming" historical cycles

Breitbart.tv video ends before Gore makes broader point. In cutting the video of Gore's testimony, Breitbart did not include Gore's comments that, regardless of past cycles, "[W]hat's happening now is that we, because of human action, are overwhelming all of those cycles."

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    • Author by Bongo Fury (December 09, 2009 7:10 pm ET)
         
      if all gore does is lie about climate change,the internet etc,then apparently faux noose has taken a chapter from him.their drivel is self-serving and adds nothing to civil debate.
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    • Author by all your eyes (December 09, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
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      CO2 in the form of carbonic acid exists in the oceans naturally. It cycles into and out of the atmosphere at the surface. The solubility of gasses in liquids decreases with increasing temperature. So, when incident solar radiation increased historically as a result of natural cycles in the earth's orbit, CO2 would naturally be released, which would amplify solar warming by further trapping the incident radiation.

      In the current, human-driven warming scenario, not only has atmospheric CO2 doubled in 150 years, the carbonic acid content of the oceans has likewise increased. What happens when the oceans warm sufficiently to significantly reduce the solubility of CO2 therein? All that CO2 we've released that has been absorbed (sunk) into the oceans will begin to be released, leading to a feedback loop that will be devastating to human civilization.
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    • Author by DellDolly (December 09, 2009 8:13 pm ET)
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      "Uncovered testimony?" It's been public since 2007, and Breitbart is JUST NOW getting around to reviewing it?

      And when he does, he takes it out of context and then doesn't understand it even then?

      Could he be more incompetent?
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      • Author by thaneb (December 10, 2009 10:32 am ET)
           
        Incompetent is forgiving. The frequency of similar instances in B's work shows it's intentional. Big lie propaganda at work.
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    • Author by LarryE (December 10, 2009 2:00 am ET)
         
      1. Some previous warming cycles were not initiated by CO2 concentrations.

      2. Adding CO2 to the atmosphere does increase warming.

      3. So our adding of massive amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere is raising the planet's temperature, regardless of whatever did or did not initiate natural warming cycles that have occurred in Earth's history.

      Good lord, is that so hard to understand?
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      • Author by SLRTX (December 10, 2009 5:24 am ET)
           
        LarryE --

        As you said, the past cycles were initiated by warming trends. As swamps, colder regions, and oceans warmed, they released CO2. The charts show warming first, then peaks of CO2 several hundred years later.

        You may be aware of this already, but there's a good series of videos that cover a lot of this info. So easy, even a denier could understand them, if they wanted to.

        http://sites.google.com/site/dallastrees/potholer54-climate-change

        Another set:
        http://sites.google.com/site/dallastrees/greenman3610-climate-denial-crock-videos

        And a nice video about how to separate baloney from facts:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU&feature=player_embedded#
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      • Author by westofkanye (December 10, 2009 11:32 am ET)
           
        If it were really that simple, larrye, but it's not.
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        • Author by LarryE (December 11, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
             
          but it's not

          Um, for the purposes here, it is. The fact that warming trends can be initiated by causes other than increasing CO2 concentrations is irrelevant to the fact that increasing CO2 concentrations, which what we're doing, causes warming. That latter fact is just basic physics of a sort that has been well understood for over a century.
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    • Author by egb (December 10, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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      Not much science here. Not much in CRU either, as they have demonstrated with their politicized opinions and blackballing efforts aimed at those who might differ. Anyone who believes the global warming zealots can predict the climate 1 year from now [not to mention 50 years] is placing more faith in black magic than science. There is no scientific proof of human induced global warming. HUGW cannot be proven. It can only be DISPROVED. Science is not proved to be fact. It is arrived at by eliminating competing theories. With the CRU group eliminating countervailing evidence by fiat, they are no longer scientists but political animals seeking to make their subjective beliefs paramount.

      I don't believe anything respectable can come from CRU again. To me, it is completely discredited as are the politicians who have been running it and claiming to be scientists.
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      • Author by westofkanye (December 10, 2009 11:33 am ET)
           
        I wholeheartedly agree,egb.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (December 10, 2009 11:59 am ET)
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        That's because you've either bought into the lies about what the emails and source code notes actually say or you're a liar yourself on the topic. You're ignorant or a liar on the topic; those are the only options.
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      • Author by raddave43 (December 10, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
           
        What makes me sick is the righ-wing nutjobs that take stolen emails, cherry pick them and use snippets to try and discredit the entire climate change issue. Please explain how adding in real temperatures is manipulating data!!!!
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    • Author by youcrackmeup (December 10, 2009 11:46 am ET)
         
      Let's see...
      These scientist say the earth is 4.4 BILLION years old, It started out at 8,000 degrees then have had (there not sure up to four?) but at least one ice age, and we have 150 years of data in a 4.4 BILLION year old planet. And we can now say the debate is over and Global Warming IS man made. WoW, Climate change has been going on for 4.4 BILLION years on earth, BUT we can take 150 Years worth of data and YES some of this is now in question, and make decisions and end debate. Well I guess if that is what you want to hear, you would say the debate is over, and call anyone that disagrees deniers and other names. I guess I would rather see a little less conflicting Data. (You know where we started cooling the earth from 8,000 degrees to an ice age and then pulled from a ice age and started warming again and then started cooling again) but there is really no natural cycle, this is ALL man made.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (December 10, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
           
        Factless rant and dismissal based on personal credulity noted.
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        • Author by youcrackmeup (December 10, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
             
          What? These are not facts? Why are they being taught in school then?
          Why are they in science books?And why would you dismiss it? When these are being taught all over the country, on how the earth began? Or are you dismissing yourself for NO facts and no credibility?
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (December 10, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
               
            The facts about the earth's origin and history are roughly accurate, but are completely meaningless with regard to what is happening to climate RIGHT NOW and in recent decades. I'm referring to the factless basis of your claim that the data is in question. I'm referring to the factless "conflicting data" you suggest exists. I'm referring to your factless suggestion that it's just part of a natural cycle which is contrary to mountains of actual evidence that support ACC.

            And I referred to that fact that your personal sense of credulity is less than meaningless. It's actually laughable.
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