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Fox & Friends deceptively cropped Dean's comments, disappearing public option references

December 17, 2009 3:04 pm ET — 27 Comments

In purporting to air Howard Dean's comments opposing the Senate health care bill, Fox & Friends omitted his statement that the "problem" with the bill is that with the removal of the public option, "we are now committed to a solution using the private insurance companies." At no point in the segment - during which Dean's opposition to the bill was repeatedly conflated with that of the tea party attendees - did Fox draw a connection between Dean's opposition to the bill and the removal of the public option from the bill.

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Fox & Friends omit Dean's main concern that bill "will only do health insurance through the private sector"

Fox & Friends falsely suggests Dean's motives for opposing Senate bill are in accord with the "tea party people." Fox News legal analyst Peter Johnson, Jr. stated that Dean is receiving praise from opponents of the Senate bill, saying, "[A] lot of tea party people, and Republicans, and Independents in the United States are saying, maybe, he's really a patriot" for opposing the bill. Fox & Friends then aired a cropped version of Dean's comments from the December 16 edition of ABC's Good Morning America:

DEAN: Decisions are being made about the long-term future of this country for short-term political reasons and that's never a good sign. ... You will be forced to buy insurance. If you don't, you'll pay a fine. ... This is a bigger bailout for the insurance industry than AIG. And not one person -- excuse me -- a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all. ... This is an insurance company's dream.

Later in the segment, Johnson stated: "Tea party and progressives together, with Dr. Dean." At no point during the segment did Kilmeade or Johnson note that Dean has cited the removal of the public option in discussing his opposition of the bill.

Fox & Friends removed Dean's statement that he was opposing bill because under it, "we will only do health insurance through the private sector." During the Good Morning America interview, in comments omitted by Fox & Friends, Dean emphasized that the "problem" with the bill was that "we're now committed to a solution using the private insurance companies" (comments cropped by Fox & Friends in bold):

DEAN: Decisions are being made about the long-term future of this country for short-term political reasons and that's never a good sign. There are some good things in this bill. The problem is we are now committed to a solution using the private insurance companies, and you will be forced to buy insurance. If you don't, you'll pay a fine. And 27 percent of the money that you put in will not go to your health care, it'll go to CEOs who make $20 million. This is a bigger bailout for the insurance industry than AIG. And not one person -- excuse me -- a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all until 2014 if the bill works.

Later in the interview, in comments not aired by Fox & Friends, Dean stated: "[T]he fundamental part of this bill that has been decided is that we will only do health insurance through the private sector for the future, and you will not have a choice as an American to get into other kinds of systems which work better. And I think that's a mistake."

Johnson asserted Dean said mandate is "toxic," ignored that he said mandate was "toxic" without the inclusion of the public option. After airing Dean's cropped comments, Johnson claimed Dean is "saying ... on his website, Democracy for America, that the mandate is toxic -- that the individual mandate is toxic and Democrats will own it. He says it's a trillion-dollar giveaway." But Johnson again cropped Dean's comments to remove his references to the public option. In fact, in his December 16 blog post, Dean wrote: "If Democrats remove the choice of a public option, they can't force Americans to buy health insurance" and that "without a public option, this bill is almost a trillion dollar taxpayer giveaway to insurance companies" [emphasis in original]. Dean added: "What about in 2014 after the mandate goes into effect and the press reports all the horror stories of Americans forced to choose between paying their monthly health insurance bill to Aetna or paying rent? The mandate is toxic and Democrats will own it" [emphasis in original].

Fox & Friends cropped Dean to suggest he said only "a very small number" will be insured by bill

In the clip Fox & Friends aired, Dean was heard saying that "a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all" under the bill. Dean actually said that "a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all until 2014 if the bill works" [emphasis added]. According to the Congressional Budget Office and Joint Tax Committee's estimate of the Senate bill as proposed, "the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured would be reduced by about 31 million" by 2019.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (December 17, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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      Especially Johnson's conclusions (or non-conclusions) are LITERALLY made-up fantasies...looney-bin material. Maybe teabaggers will donate to the DNC and Dean's PAC though??
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (December 17, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
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        That would be funny. Can you imagine someone getting hold of the teabaggers' email lists and sending out a bulletin requesting assistance?

        Attn Tea Party Members: Howard Dean is bravely fighting to prevent the passage of the current Health Care Reform bill in the Senate. Unfortunately, he's no longer a Senator so he needs your help. Please send your $10, $20 or $100 donations to ...

        Together we can defeat this bill.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (December 17, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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      Wow, that's a horrible distortion of Dean's positions. Anyone who has paid attention knows that he first criticized the removal of the public option, but found he could still support the bill with the expansion of Medicare. It was only after that was removed that he stated his opposition to it. To even HINT that he was somehow aligning himself with the teabagger fringe has no connection to reality.
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      • Author by fairliberal (December 17, 2009 8:32 pm ET)
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        Anyone who has paid attention knows that the "current Senate version "means that the public option and the expansion of medicare has been abandoned. Kilmeade did point that out and that was what Dean objects to.

        But what is the problem with Fox and Friends using Dean's own words and not showing the entire interview, that is what the dweebs here at MMFA do every single day. They crop comments daily. For example in another thread they point out that Dick Morris predicts that the repubs will regain control of Congress in 2010 but do not show his reasoning for the conclusion he draws. Same thing. Of course on a "do as I say , not as I do " site such as this , I guess that is OK.
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        • Author by DellDolly (December 17, 2009 10:03 pm ET)
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          Good job at providing a link to the supposed obnoxious behavior by MMFA - NOT!

          Good job at showing how the portion of Dick Morris' comments that MMFA didn't transcribe changed the meaning of the portion they DID include - NOT!

          Overall, a damn poor job.

          Exactly what we've come to expect from you!

          No one said that they had to include Dean's whole interview, dum-dum. But you do need to not take one set of comments out of context when you can see that something he said later on changes the import of something else he said!!!

          Here's what they showed.

          DEAN: Decisions are being made about the long-term future of this country for short-term political reasons and that's never a good sign. ... You will be forced to buy insurance. If you don't, you'll pay a fine. ... This is a bigger bailout for the insurance industry than AIG. And not one person -- excuse me -- a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all. ... This is an insurance company's dream.

          Cropped quotes throughout his one paragraph statement.

          Here's what he actually said - complaining about cropping a portion of one sentence isn't the same thing as insisting that the entire interview be included.

          DEAN: Decisions are being made about the long-term future of this country for short-term political reasons and that's never a good sign. There are some good things in this bill. The problem is we are now committed to a solution using the private insurance companies, and you will be forced to buy insurance. If you don't, you'll pay a fine. And 27 percent of the money that you put in will not go to your health care, it'll go to CEOs who make $20 million. This is a bigger bailout for the insurance industry than AIG. And not one person -- excuse me -- a very small number of people are going to get any insurance at all until 2014 if the bill works.
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          • Author by fairliberal (December 18, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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            Yeah, no one needs to include the entire clip, unless they are exposing acorn, then every second must be shown. The flexible standards of the left surfacing again.

            "Exactly what we've come to expect from you!" DellDolly

            And you are so much more evolved , what do you do daily? Oh that's right, name calling. A true progressive.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (December 17, 2009 10:17 pm ET)
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          That's a horrible comparison. MMFA had the video of the entire relevant segment of interview in the post. When they quote others they link to the entire bodies of their statements. It's not difficult to find full context on MMFA articles.

          In the F&F segment, the segment they aired of Dean's words has a different meaning to the average listener from what Dean actually said in his full statements. In that way, F&F was deceitful.

          In a nutshell:
          MMFA--->Full context--->honest
          F&F--->Out of context--->dishonest
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (December 17, 2009 3:16 pm ET)
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      FOX News...We distort, you decide.
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      • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (December 17, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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        As Keith Olbermann defined Fox's policy:

        So the zero tolerance policy must mean that when it comes to how much journalistic integrity they must maintain at Fox, they'll tolerate zero.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (December 17, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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      I said this in another thread, albeit slightly differently, but basically the same thing...

      Cluster Fox distorts or crops video to fit their propaganda?

      Never heard of it! Besides, it was the fault of some disgruntled or sloppy producer who distorted or cropped the clips... like he one who accidentally cropped the video that Hannity used from one racist rally to claim it from a more recent one... blah, blah, blah
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (December 17, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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        It happens with such frequency and regularity that no one should be surprised anymore...or have any doubts about whether the distortions are intentional.
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    • Author by fantagor (December 17, 2009 3:23 pm ET)
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      Don't like what someone said? Rewrite it to suit your tastes. Just think how much more palatable we can make watching Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. A snip here, a parse there. Instant sensibility and intelligence!

      Randy
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      • Author by RedChocobo (December 17, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
           
        Has anybody done this? With the selection of videos available it would be fun to create an 'episode' of Hannity or Glenn Beck that was cropped to make it sound like they were supporting something obnoxious.
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        • Author by Cycat (December 17, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
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          What would be really hysterical is cropping their comments to make it sound like they were supporting something sane.
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          • Author by RedChocobo (December 18, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
               
            The... government option... would be... the best healthcare in the world!
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      • Author by WTF? (December 17, 2009 11:05 pm ET)
           
        And you believe Chris Tingles, Bathtub Boy, and Madcow at MSNBC don't snip, cut, and edit, to fit thier agenda? Please.
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    • Author by The_Cat (December 17, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
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      just waiting for the false parallel to spring up, myself. At some point, someone will likely argue that taking Dean out of context to paint him as a Tea Party sympathizer is just the same as taking Rush out of context to prove his racism.

      Here, troll troll troll...
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      • Author by southerngal (December 17, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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        You'd better watch out. Because the self-appointed Queen of the Derailment Wrist Slappers, otherwise known as DellSueDolly, is always admonishing her subjects around here to "stop feeding the troll". And now here you go goading them to respond.

        Don't say I didn't warn you.
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        • Author by DellDolly (December 17, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
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          Yeah, the troll post here is YOURS. The Cat did attract a troll post.

          Making a joke about attracting a troll (one that wouldn't actully be a troll post) is very different than actually making the troll post.

          But disingenuous and insincere troll that you are, you figured that you wouldn't get caught at it?

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          • Author by southerngal (December 17, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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            What joke? The way your temper gets all flamed up and the hair on the back of your neck stands up when someone doesn't follow your posting guidelines, it is no joke the vitriol you dish out with your childish scoldings. What is so ironic is the way you derail posts nearly every day, but your hypocrisy is all part of your charm.
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            • Author by DellDolly (December 17, 2009 10:04 pm ET)
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              The Cat's joke, you dunce! Wow, not sure how THAT flew right over your head....
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        • Author by historygeek001 (December 17, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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          And Cat catches a troll!
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          • Author by southerngal (December 17, 2009 5:29 pm ET)
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            The way liberals here define a troll is anyone with a dissenting opinion not in lockstep - that would be me. So the troll label is worn with pride.
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          • Author by nerzog (December 17, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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            I just hope he doesn't leave its carcass on the front porch...
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    • Author by bintx (December 17, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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      Personally, I wish Howard Dean would just shut the hell up. However, I did read an interesting comment today that this furor may be part of a much larger plan. For now, I'll just change channels when he's on, so I don't have to listen to him. I'll read his comments.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (December 18, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
         
      FOX is doing here what it does best, lie and distort the facts.
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    • Author by jcalton (December 18, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
         
      What's the big deal? I'm sure this totally legitimate news organization will issue a correction and discipline the people who made the on-air mistake.
      Remember their new "zero-tolerance" policy? It's less than 30 days old, so I'm sure it's still got as much weight behind it now as when they first announced it.
      http://mediamatters.org/blog/200911230038
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