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Beck's Misinformer of the Year defense rests on falsehoods

January 04, 2010 10:53 pm ET — 114 Comments

Glenn Beck devoted the full hour of his Fox News show to responding to "some liberal blogs" that had named him Misinformer of the Year, asserting that the blogs "didn't back it up with any facts." Beck's 60-minute rebuttal ignored numerous facts set forth by Media Matters for America undermining a litany of Beck's claims throughout 2009; moreover, his defense itself rested on misrepresentations and false claims.

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Beck claims "some blogs" failed to "back it up with any facts" in naming him Misinformer of the Year

From the January 4 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck: 

BECK: We've been preparing this program -- this series of programs, the next five programs -- for about a month and a half, and while I was on vacation last week, some liberal blogs named me the Misinformer of the Year. But what I loved about it was, they didn't back it up with any facts. I saw another article in The Washington Post that did the same thing. [Glenn Beck, 1/4/10

Media Matters provided numerous factual rebuttals to Beck's claims throughout 2009

Beck falsely claimed "[o]nly 3 percent" of stimulus plan would be "spent in the next 12 months." During the January 27 broadcast of his Fox News program, Beck falsely claimed that "[o]nly 3 percent" of the Democratic economic stimulus plan would be "spent in the next 12 months." Beck's figures were based on a partial Congressional Budget Office cost estimate that excluded faster-moving provisions in the bill. According to the CBO's full cost estimate of the bill, 11.2 percent of the $816 billion bill would be spent in the first seven and a half months after the bill was enacted, and, when including the bill's tax cut provisions, $169 billion -- or 20.7 percent of the bill's total cost -- were estimated to take effect in the first seven and a half months, or before the end of the last fiscal year.

Beck aired false claim that a union needs only 30 percent support from employees to be "established." On February 12, Beck aired an on-screen graphic with the headline, "THEN ... WAGNER ACT," which falsely asserted that if 30 percent of employees want a union, "it gets established." In fact, the Wagner Act, which was passed in the 1930s, required that for union representation to be established, a majority of employees in a bargaining unit within a company had to "designate or select" a union to represent them.

Beck falsely claimed average UAW worker makes $154 per hour. On February 18, Beck falsely claimed that "the average UAW [United Auto Workers] worker" earns "[a] hundred and fifty-four dollars an hour if you look at -- you know, if you add in all of the benefits." In fact, a Barclays Capital analysis reportedly found that U.S. automakers "pay an average of $55 an hour in wages and benefits to hourly workers."

Beck falsely asserted that U.S. does not fingerprint foreign visitors or collect rapists' DNA. On March 16, Beck asserted that "[w]e can't fingerprint anybody who's coming into this country because that would be offensive" and that "[w]e can't take DNA samples from killers or rapists, but you can have your fingerprint taken if you want to sell your house." In fact, the Department of Homeland Security does take fingerprints from "aliens seeking admission to the United States" at U.S. entry points, and according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, "All 50 states require that convicted sex offenders provide a DNA sample."

Beck falsely claimed Iowa marriage ruling "is actually about going into churches." On April 13, Beck falsely asserted that the Iowa Supreme Court's decision striking down the state's ban on same-sex marriage "is actually about going into churches ... and saying you can't teach anything else." In fact, the ruling does not affect religious institutions' definitions of marriage.

Beck echoed falsehood that ACORN received stimulus funds. On May 6, Beck echoed a false Republican talking point by stating, "By including ACORN, or groups like them, in the stimulus package, we have guaranteed them billions of dollars to buy more votes for the party that helps them the most." In fact, the stimulus bill does not mention ACORN or otherwise single it out for funding.

Beck falsely claimed $1.4 million in stimulus spent on doors, which actually cost $246,100 to repair. On July 20, Beck falsely claimed that the government spent $1.4 million of economic stimulus funds "to repair a door" at Dyess Air Force Base. In fact, the doors repaired were hangar doors and did not cost that much money. Recovery.gov actually states that the government awarded AFCO Technologies nearly $1.2 million to replace gas mains on the base, and $246,100 to repair the hangar doors in Building 5112.

Beck falsely claimed Obama said he doesn't want health reform protesters to "do a lot of talking." On August 10, Beck falsely claimed that President Obama was "reacti[ng] to the health care protests" when he said, "I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking." In fact, Obama was not talking about public protests or even health care reform; he was discussing "folks on the other side of the aisle pointing at the federal budget and somehow trying to put that at our feet."

Beck reported fake murder story from ACORN video as fact. On September 15, after Andrew Breitbart posted a video of an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, California, claiming that she had killed her ex-husband, Beck joined Fox News colleagues Karl Rove, Greta Van Susteren, and Sean Hannity in promoting it without fact-checking it or indicating that they had contacted ACORN for a response to the claim. In fact, ACORN stated that the employee made up the story because she recognized that the actors in the video "were clearly playing with" her so she "matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios," and, indeed, the San Bernardino Police Department has said her claim is false.

Beck, falsely claimed IPCC's Latif has "pulled the rug out" from under climate change consensus. On September 22, Beck joined Hannity in seizing on a World Climate Conference presentation on short-term natural climate variability by Mojib Latif, a prominent climate modeler, to suggest that, in Beck's words, Latif has "backed out now and said, 'We were wrong,' " about global warming because, according to Hannity, Latif stated that global temperatures are actually "cooling." In fact, Latif asserted that contrary to common "media" misperceptions of global warming as a "monotonic process" in which "each year is warmer than the preceding year," there are significant natural climate variations within the decadal timescale that do not change the "long-term warming trend."

Beck falsely claimed Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong. Throughout most of his October 15 Fox News program, Beck falsely claimed that White House communications director Anita Dunn "worships" and "idolizes" "her hero" Mao Zedong. In fact, in the video that Beck aired as evidence to support his claims, Dunn offered no endorsement of Mao's ideology or atrocities -- rather, she commented that Mao and Mother Teresa were two of her "favorite political philosophers," and based on short quotes from them, she offered the advice that "you don't have to follow other people's choices and paths" or "let external definition define how good you are internally."

Beck falsely accused Reid of lying about support for public option. Following reports that Senate leaders planned to include a public option in health care legislation, on the October 27 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Beck falsely suggested that only "35 percent of the population" supported a public option and accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of lying when he said, in co-host Gretchen Carlson's words, that "the public wants this." In fact, polling consistently showed broad support for the public option, and the Fox News poll Beck presumably was referencing did not ask specifically about a public option.

Beck falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "You don't get a single benefit until 2014." On November 19, Beck falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "All of the benefits of this bill don't kick in until when? You don't get a single benefit until 2014." According to a document released by Senate Democrats summarizing the "Immediate Benefits" of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the bill included numerous benefits that would "be available in the first year after enactment" of the bill. Indeed, Washington Post writer Ezra Klein published a list of benefits that the Senate bill would provide "before 2014."

Reviving "born alive" falsehood, Beck claimed Obama suggested it's OK to "put a spike in the baby's head." On November 25, Beck falsely claimed that Obama "suggested that [it] was OK" to "go into those pregnant women and pull the babies out of them and put a spike in the baby's head," echoing the oft-repeated right-wing falsehood that Obama did not support protecting babies who survived botched abortions. In fact, while serving in the state Senate, Obama opposed legislation to amend the Illinois Abortion Law because the amendment threatened abortion rights and was unnecessary since existing law already required doctors to provide medical care for babies who survived abortions.

Beck falsely claimed that no jobs are being "saved or created" by recovery legislation. On December 2, Beck falsely claimed that "jobs are not being saved or created" by the economic recovery legislation and that the Obama administration is "creating the make-believe 'saved or created' category" for jobs. In fact, the CBO had recently estimated that the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009, which was heavily promoted by Obama, created 1.6 million jobs, and the Bush administration repeatedly stated that its economic initiatives had "saved or created" jobs.

Beck falsely claimed Robert Creamer "stole" $2 million from banks. On December 8, Beck falsely claimed that progressive activist Robert Creamer "stole" $2 million from banks while serving as executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund. In fact, Creamer was never accused of stealing any money, and the judge in the case reportedly gave Creamer a lighter sentence because no one suffered any "out of pocket losses."

Beck led charge advancing "Lie of the Year" contender that Holdren supported forced abortions and sterilizations. Throughout 2009, Beck repeatedly advanced the false claim that White House science and technology adviser John Holdren -- whom Beck called "our science czar" -- supported forced abortions and putting sterilants in drinking water. PolitiFact.com declared his claim "pants on fire" false and nominated it for "Lie of the Year," stating that Holdren and his co-authors "make clear that they did not support coercive means of population control." Beck's claim was PolitiFact's runner-up for Lie of the Year.

Beck's defense rests on misrepresentations and falsehoods

Beck claim: Death panels "discovered by The New York Times." On his January 4 show, Beck claimed, "Last summer during the health care debate, we told you that the administration's math didn't add up. It was a very reasonable explanation on the program. I appealed to your reason. I said it would be impossible to add 30 million people to health care onto the rolls and at the same time add no additional doctors or nurses. And then not have rationing. You can't do that. Because some bureaucracy would have to decide whether you would receive, or they would receive rationed health care, the terms 'death panels' was applied. Well, here is the fact." After showing archive footage of himself discussing rationing and death panels, he stated:

BECK: But instead of telling you the Lie of the Year, how about I just tell you the truth, as discovered by The New York Times in a front-page article about our mushrooming unsustainable debt? Here is the truth from the Times. Quote: "The competing demands could deepen political battles over the size and the role of government. The tradeoffs between taxes and spending. The choices between helping older generations versus younger ones, and the bottom line questions about who should ultimately shoulder the burden."

That was The New York Times. Hmmm. That also sounds reasonable, doesn't it, when there's a shortage of money? So The New York Times says it, but SEIU named me the fearmonger of the year. That's weird. I wonder if The New York Times will share that award with me.

Fact: Times article cited by Beck makes no mention of health care reform or "death panels." The November 22 New York Times article cited by Beck, headlined, "Wave of debt payments facing U.S. government," did not address health care reform and made no mention of death panels or health care rationing. From The New York Times: 

Americans now have to climb out of two deep holes: as debt-loaded consumers, whose personal wealth sank along with housing and stock prices; and as taxpayers, whose government debt has almost doubled in the last two years alone, just as costs tied to benefits for retiring baby boomers are set to explode.

The competing demands could deepen political battles over the size and role of the government, the trade-offs between taxes and spending, the choices between helping older generations versus younger ones, and the bottom-line questions about who should ultimately shoulder the burden.

"The government is on teaser rates," said Robert Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan group that advocates lower deficits. "We're taking out a huge mortgage right now, but we won't feel the pain until later."

Beck: "I didn't want [Van Jones] to be fired." During his discussion of Van Jones, Beck stated, "I didn't want the man to be fired. I wanted a debate on the issue of a communist being an adviser to the president of the United States."

Fact: Beck said, "Removing Van Jones is not enough," and called on listeners to ask, "Why is this man in [Obama's] administration?" Discussing Van Jones on the September 3 edition of his radio show, Beck asked, "Is it time yet that you demand an answer from the president of the United States, 'Why is this man in your administration?' " Beck went on to claim, "And it's not about Van Jones. Removing Van Jones is not enough."

A section on Beck claiming that Van Jones was "the only person, by the way, we have ever accused of being a communist" has been removed from this item.

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    • Author by apbrainerd (January 04, 2010 11:22 pm ET)
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      I think the host of this site should go on the Glenn Beck show and attempt to argue these points. I truly think you will be enlightened. You can hammer away on some blog, but go debate the man if you are so confident in your beliefs.
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    • Author by nativeofsf (January 04, 2010 11:57 pm ET)
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      Glen Beck has always been a liar, a deceiver, a perverter of facts and an all-around doo-doo head. With his always distorted view of reality, with which he jammers-on constantly, Becky only dismantles more of America irrevocably. But then he's had eight years to stock up with the diseased rhetoric which he now spews about. The man has no backbone and no tuchas. He is a coward...truly a verifiable doo-doo head.
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      • Author by News Corpse (January 05, 2010 6:15 am ET)
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        And on today's show Beck raised the bar for deceit:

        Glenn Beck Tells His Biggest Lie Yet
        "If I were lying I'd be off the air."
        This is a lie that lies about the context of his lying. It’s a lie that doubles back on itself as its own exculpation.

        Bravo Mr. Beck. You are the Master Prevaricator.
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 05, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
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          If only people who lied went off our airwaves...it'd be awfully quiet at times on every network, and absolute silence on FoxNews! LOL
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          • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:31 pm ET)
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            Really? If they are such liars... Why on earth does it take the combined ratings of every other news broadcaster to match them?
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        • Author by armadillo (January 05, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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          No, if he told the truth he'd be off the air. Lying is a job requirement at Faux News, history shows.
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          • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:31 pm ET)
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            Proof? Sources? Quotes? Anything?
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          • Author by CAinCO (January 06, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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            You cant stand the truth....obama sucks...and so does all his progressive friends....blame fox news for it all. You are so lame.
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      • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:22 am ET)
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        And again, no facts to back it up, just whining, a lot of whining going on at this bogus website that is the laughing stock of the internet..!
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        • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:01 am ET)
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          Apparently, reading is not your forte. This laughingstock (it's one word; ironic you would not know that since you refer to this site's fans as uneducated) website listed more than a dozen specific, factual examples of Beck misinforming or straight-out lying.
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        • Author by louee (January 06, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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          Do you read? You're as bad as Beck: just spew garbage and hope someone will believe you. The true laughingstock is anyone who would put an ounce of faith in anything Beck says. He is a complete psychopath. Give yourself a present and stop watching that crap.
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    • Author by sepirothpk (January 05, 2010 12:24 am ET)
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      So he basically misinformed his listeners to defend himself from misinformer of the year. Doesn't he see the problem in that? Also, a personal attack calling the presenter of politico's video "geeky" was unwarranted.
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    • Author by mrhebert74 (January 05, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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      Is that all you've got, MMFA? That Beck falsely claimed "[o]nly 3 percent" of the stimulus plan would be "spent in the next 12 months," that he aired a false claim that a union needs only 30 percent support from employees to be "established," that he falsely claimed that an average UAW worker makes $154 per hour, that he falsely asserted that the U.S. does not fingerprint foreign visitors or collect rapists' DNA, that he falsely claimed that the Iowa marriage ruling "is actually about going into churches," that he echoed the falsehood that ACORN received stimulus funds, that he falsely claimed $1.4 million in stimulus money was spent on doors, which actually cost $246,100 to repair, that he falsely claimed that president Obama said he doesn't want health reform protesters to "do a lot of talking," that he reported a fake murder story from an ACORN video as fact, that he falsely claimed that the IPCC's Mojib Latif had "pulled the rug out" from under climate change consensus, that he falsely claimed that Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong, that he falsely accused Harry Reid of lying about support for the public option, that he falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "You don't get a single benefit until 2014," that, reviving the "born alive" falsehood, he claimed that president Obama suggested it's OK to "put a spike in the baby's head," that he falsely claimed that no jobs are being "saved or created" by recovery legislation, that he falsely claimed Robert Creamer "stole" $2 million from banks, that he led the charge advancing the "Lie of the Year" contender that John Holdren supported forced abortions and sterilizations, that he falsely suggested that in pending health care legislation, death panels were "discovered by The New York Times," and that he falsely stated that he hadn't wanted Van Jones to be fired?

      Big deal! Anybody could make those eighteen mistakes!
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      • Author by LittleFuzzy (January 05, 2010 7:09 am ET)
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        mrherbert: consistent misinformation is obviously no big deal to you.

        Were you upset and outraged as the Saddam Hussein's Information Minister consistently claimed that the US forces invading Iraq were taking heavy casualties and suffering repeated defeats? He was just making a few mistakes, after all, just as Mr.Beck has been.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (January 05, 2010 8:21 am ET)
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          LittleFuzzy -
          You'll have to get used to mrherbert's style. He's making fun of Beck and those who would minimize the significance of those "eighteen mistakes."
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          • Author by neon desert (January 05, 2010 9:56 am ET)
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            Mr. Buff,

            I take offense at your defense of those who would defer to ad hominem ridicule. Hitler likewise discriminately persecuted a group of people because of their beliefs, and degraded their standing as human beings. Would you also defend Hitler's "style"? I... I fear the Nazification of this website, and the... *sniff*... the enslavement of it's people under a totalitarian... *sniff*... regime.

            I'm sorry. I just... I just love this site so much...
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 05, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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          I was almost going to ask him myself if he was being sarcastic, or was just stupid...

          But I try to save that for the ones who are actually being stupid. (Or who do sarcasm so well that I really can't tell!)

          But don't always react to just the first line of the post. He's being sarcastic.

          -------------------------------------------------------------------
          Don't feel too bad though... I was "this close" to doing the same thing!
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      • Author by RoadScholar (January 05, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
           
        I get jokes.
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      • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:21 am ET)
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        You have no proof he said Van Jones should be fired. But who cares about this? THE PEOPLE WANTED THAT SCUMFILTH GONE and we got it.. rightly so.
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        • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:33 am ET)
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          Can I make up words, too? THE POSTER ABOVE IS A MORDIOT! Hey, that is fun.
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        • Author by mescal (January 07, 2010 1:26 am ET)
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          And, by 'people', you of course mean drooling,teabagging, morons.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 05, 2010 12:42 am ET)
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      What do you expect from an overly ambitious, drug-head, radio shock jock...truth and honor?
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    • Author by DellDolly (January 05, 2010 1:03 am ET)
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      I'm glad I had better things to watch tonight instead of Beck!
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    • Author by slowtyper (January 05, 2010 1:08 am ET)
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      i love how beck can't seem to understand that he's clearly exposing his own BS...let him indeed protest too much..
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      • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:33 pm ET)
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        If he was doing so, then why do his ratings soar? Why is it that the only thing that can beat him is football? Go to DirecTV or Dish Network's currently viewing section. It shows what is most popular. Check it at 4PM Central.
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    • Author by NesForBeck (January 05, 2010 1:13 am ET)
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      Are there any facts on this website?
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    • Author by jaco (January 05, 2010 4:23 am ET)
         
      Beck is the Jim Jones of the media.
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    • Author by manofmystique (January 05, 2010 8:33 am ET)
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      Would you expect anything else from a man who spends full hours of the day lying to his fans?
      I watched this episode thinking this idiot can't help himself, nor does he want too. The words integrity and credibility is not in his vocabulary.
      Even "AFTER' doing some "research" Beck continues to misrepresent the facts. Why did Beck waste time doing research? His Tea-brain audience could care less. They love him just the way he is, liar and all.
      Why would Beck respond to a "false accusation" claim using falsehoods and lie to prove a point?
      That is exactly what this stupid racist buffoon did on his show.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 05, 2010 9:09 am ET)
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      I missed the chance to congratulate Beck on recieving the award in the first place, but it's nice to know that he's proven that he REALLY DESERVIES it. It's always sad (in sports) to see an MVP go on to have a lousy follow-up season, or get hurt and retire, etc...

      This is much more satisfying.

      -------------------------------------------------------------
      And who knows? Could he become the first two-time MOY winner?
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    • Author by achrispage6992 (January 05, 2010 9:56 am ET)
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      This is fantastic really. Beck has found himself on the defensive. His ego simply cannnot stand criticism, so MMA, has succeeded in having him spend countless hours defending an indefensible position. The fact that he informed his audience of this dubious honor would indicate that perhaps some of them may have opened their mind and found out some truth about Beck. This seems to trouble him deeply.

      Glenn Beck is a text book example of a person with a personality disorder with paranoid features. People are always out to "get him", they're out to "destroy him", and in his mind-he alone is the suffering voice in the wilderness. No doubt, he has utilized this disorder to great financial benefit, which only further supports the narcissisitic/paranoid personality disorder he suffers from.

      Not all the time, but usually, folks like Glen Beck implode. They are their own worst enemy. He has explicitly demonstrated self destructive behavior in the past with his drug and alcohol addiction. Now, he simply has another outlet in which he is doing 100 mph toward a brick wall with no seatbelt. Just a matter of time folks. Entities like MMA only hasten his next downfall. I must admit that when it happens, I won't be able to help myself from being happy at the misfortune of another.
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      • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:39 pm ET)
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        Paragraph 1: Really? Hes on the defensive? I couldn't tell from watching the show and if he is, he seems to have a really strong defensive against a poorly supplied, over stretched offense. Uhh.. Maybe he found it hilarious and wanted the whole world to know what MediaMatters, a well known left wing organization, had to say about him?

        Paragraph 2: Text book, huh? Err... Isn't this entire website out to get him? Sounds like a reasonable "paranoia." Zomg, he is rich!?! Of course you guys know your attempts at "destroying" him are only further expanding his wealth.

        Paragraph 3: Self destructive behavior that he has since recovered from. He has turned his life around considerably. You will notice the majority of Right Wing leaders are self made people. They had some mistakes throughout their lives, and then they overcame their obstacles and rose to the top. Limbaugh is rich beyond all belief. And only a few decades ago he was just another local guy with a temporary grasp at the microphone while his station was trying to find someone good.
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    • Author by fishgirl26 (January 05, 2010 10:18 am ET)
         
      I noticed a few days ago Glenny put his house on the market. Is he moving into his newly completed bunker because you know MMA has spies everywhere!! everywhere!! Now, where is my tin foil hat...I would go into the kitchen but the fridge is bugged and watching me!!
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    • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 10:23 am ET)
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      With all the criticisms of Beck on this site I would love for a representative from MMFA to attempt to get on Beck's show. Do whatever you need to get a segment or two to discuss the issues straight with him. If his producers say no, keep on bugging them until they say yes. If it ever happens I'm sure it'll be very educational for all of us.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (January 05, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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        The more productive environment would be in a neutral setting, say "Larry King" or David Gregory's show. People like Beck survive on having total control of their respective environments. We've seen what happens to O'Reilly when he's not calling the shots. He meltsdown. So would Beck, especially if confronted with a logical rebuttal of his ridiculous theories. He wouldn't be in control. That fact alone would ignite his paranoid tendacies and his narcissistic personality simply wouldn't hold up under the kind of pressure that arises when he is not in complete control.

        Can you imagine living in the house of someone who must control all things around them? Beck is simply one step away from being a sociopath, if he's not already there.
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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          especially if confronted with a logical rebuttal of his ridiculous theories


          His theories come from the political ideas of Jefferson, Madison, et al. What are logical rebuttals to those theories?

          Beck is simply one step away from being a sociopath, if he's not already there.


          Well that's your opinion but it's simply wrong. How is he a sociopath?
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 05, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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            "His theories come from the political ideas of Jefferson, Madison, et al." - Mag

            Really? Please show us how.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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              How would you like me to do that? If you listen to him it's pretty clear. He quotes them many times in his Arguing with Idiots book.
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              • Author by RoadScholar (January 05, 2010 4:36 pm ET)
                   
                Right. And pro-slavery folks used Bible passages to defend slavery.

                I am a dedicated student of American history, and if Jefferson came back and saw how Beck uses his ideas, he'd throttle him on the spot.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 05, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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                Ah, interesting. So, if he quotes them then it is self evident to you that his theories come from their political ideas? I find it fascinating how the minds of the Beckers works (or fails to). Feel free to elaborate. Show us some examples of his theories reinforcing the political ideals of our founding fathers.
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                • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 5:22 pm ET)
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                  Like I said. Read what he writes. Listen to what he says. Let me ask you this. Whose political theories line up better with the Founders? Beck or Obama? Why do you need examples? Do you doubt Beck believes in the Founders?
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                  • Author by louee (January 06, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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                    Beck is a hater. I doubt Beck believes in anything other than getting his ugly mug on tv and making a buck. If he "believes in the Founders" as you say, he would not be arguing against the rule of law as he does frequently in regard to the Gitmo detainees and torture. The Supreme Court has ruled that these folks have habeas corpus rights. There is no reasonable defense for this scumbag. Give it up.
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                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 06, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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                    Believes in them? Is there some doubt about their existence. Mag, you have truly devolved into some bizarre line of reasoning where everything Beck spoonfeeds you is truth.

                    What is it about Beck's belief system that lines up more with the founders than Obama's. This is like pulling teeth. Like all Beckers, you defend this man's indefensible nonsense (the character he plays on television) to the end, but you are completely baffled when asked to provide any sound reasoning or facts to back up these beliefs. You just begin flailing about. It is quite odd to watch.
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                  • Author by So Fain (January 06, 2010 3:04 pm ET)
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                    It's really terrible that all someone has to do to appear to be a patriot is to misquote the founding fathers. When Beck does quote Franklin, Jefferson or Madison, he generally MISQUOTES them or twists the meaning of their words.

                    Anyone with even the most basic grasp on civics or politics can see the glaring differences between the corporatist Beck and the pro-government (gasp!) Founding Fathers.

                    Hell, Jefferson founded the Democratic-Republican Party (which went on to become the modern Democratic Party) and supported the FRENCH in the Jay Treaty of 1794. He also opposed a standing army. How in God's name could you use him to compare Beck to? They are polar opposites.

                    Education is the divide here. Educated people tend to study topics they are interested in and don't just watch one opinion on one network spewed over and over again. That's what idiots do... They just trust one person (or group of people) to tell them what to think and it's a shame so many choose Beck / Fox.
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              • Author by peace4all (January 05, 2010 10:54 pm ET)
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                "How would you like me to do that? If you listen to him it's pretty clear. He quotes them many times in his Arguing with Idiots book."

                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
                HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
                Whew!!!!!
                thank you, i really needed that laugh today
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          • Author by Mojiferous (January 05, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
               
            "His theories come from the political ideas of Jefferson, Madison, et al. What are logical rebuttals to those theories?"

            If by that you mean his sociopolitical understanding and consciousness is equivalent to someone from the 18th century, then yes, I agree. Although his logic and "theories" seem closer to the thinking of Descartes than to Locke, Jefferson and believers in the social contract...
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          • Author by Lizinbklyn (January 05, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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            Well, actually, I think he's a very lucky drunk who happens to be an idiot . .

            But then he never really did explain why he said President Obama is a racist? Why President Obama doesn't understand 'the white culture'?

            Any theories as to why Stoooopid would make such racist, ignorant remarks?

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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 05, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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              Perhaps he was quoting our founding fathers as Mag would suggest.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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              Glenn Beck explains why he thinks Obama is a racist.

              He did a better job explaining it on his radio program but I can't find that clip right now. Notice at the end he makes a very salient point about if Bush had attended a Reverend Wright-like church. Katie Couric is dumbfounded trying to think of a response.

              Nevermind, I found the link where he explains why he called Obama a racist. Give it a listen if you dare.
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              • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 05, 2010 7:10 pm ET)
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                Thanks for 10 minutes of my life I'm never getting back. Here's what I heard: Glenn cannot pronounce Hispanic names (considering his time in Arizona, where he was a shock jock who liked to mock women who'd had miscarriages on-air, that's as surprise), thinks Gates is racist because he didn't like flying over North Carolina (and yeah, how could any African-American feel uncomfortable in the state that gave us Jesse Helms?), and Obama must be racist because ... he said his grandmother feared Blacks? My grandfather did not care for Blacks, I guess I must be racist too, for pointing it out. I hope you have something better than that.
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                • Author by MagCynic (January 05, 2010 9:22 pm ET)
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                  If none of his explanation got through to you then there truly is no hope for you. There's simply no point in even arguing with someone like you anymore.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (January 05, 2010 10:58 pm ET)
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                    You are a buffon to come here and defend Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck calls the POTUS a racist yet belongs to a religious sect that just recently started accepting Afro-Americans into it's upper ranks and previously considered them "branded". He says the president hates white culture but refuses to explain what white culture is:
                    http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/09/glenn-beck-refuses-to-define-white-culture-video.html
                    and then there this:
                    Does Glenn Beck support the slave trade or is he just an "idiot"?
                    September 23, 2009 8:16 pm ET — 234 Comments
                    In a chapter in his new book purporting to explain to "idiots" what "our Founding Fathers really intended," Glenn Beck praises an obsolete provision of the U.S. Constitution that prohibited Congress from outlawing the slave trade before 1808 and capped taxes on the slave trade at $10 per slave. In his explanation of the provision, Beck does not mention slavery, saying instead that the provision means that the Founders apparently "felt like there was a value to being able to live here" and lamenting: "Not
                    http://mediamatters.org/research/200909230042



                    I stand by my comment you are a buffon if you believe this guy:
                    http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-becks-sobbing-secrets-revealed
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                    • Author by MagCynic (January 06, 2010 12:31 am ET)
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                      This will be my last comment on this particular topic cause there's really no point, is there? If you truly believe Glenn Beck is the enemy and he is what's wrong with America then I feel sorry for your blindness. You can have the last word. It doesn't really matter. There's no point in any of this.
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                      • Author by So Fain (January 06, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
                           
                        Yes. I can unequivocally say that Beck and his ilk are the problem with modern America and will eventually result in the fall of the United States government into corporate hands.
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                    • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:12 am ET)
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                      Obama a racist? Now why would anyone think that?Ooops I guess if you can defend this crap he wrote in his book, you are no better than the KKK and neither is he.... to wit:

                      From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense
                      of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

                      From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political
                      winds shift in an ugly direction.'

                      Obama is a racist. If you defend that kind of talk, let alone the Wright Church, you are too.
                      I rest my case.
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                      • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:09 am ET)
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                        Let's see ... I'm going to guess you have not actually read his books, since you have no idea what you are talking about. A good portion of "Dreams" talks about how he got past feeling the way you've quoted. You know (or maybe not), how he had to grow up, open up and get past hard feelings he developed from growing up as a half-Black, half-White child and teen.

                        As for your second quote, the fact that you use it as proof of racism indicates the only racism is coming from you. His quote says that if the politics of the day become extremist against the Muslim faith, he would stand with them. Not that he would stand with only Black Muslims (or perhaps you think there ARE only Black Muslims) but that he would stand with Muslims against a McCarthy-type political attack. Doesn't your hero Glenn Beck constantly quote the old, "They came for the rich, but I did not stand because I was not rich ..." story? Because that is exactly what this is.

                        To address your third "point", I will assume you also think anyone who defends the Catholic Church must be a pedophile, anyone who defends the Mormon Church must be racist, anyone who defends the Muslim Church must be a terrorist, and anyone who defends the Baptist Church must be a sexist, right?
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                        • Author by louee (January 06, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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                          I was about to reply to this buffoon but you've said it all perfectly. Thanks.
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 06, 2010 1:14 pm ET)
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                          To address your third "point", I will assume you also think anyone who defends the Catholic Church must be a pedophile, anyone who defends the Mormon Church must be racist, anyone who defends the Muslim Church must be a terrorist, and anyone who defends the Baptist Church must be a sexist, right? - Wildcat

                          Exactly. However, even a point as obvious and clear as that will not get through to the Beckers. They believe only what Beck tells them. These are the same people that think his inane drawings on the chalkboard are uncovering conspiracies.
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                      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 06, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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                        So, anyone who stands with the Muslims you believe is a racist? And you don't believe that you are a racist? Truly baffling. Is this the best the Becker can do? Pathetic.
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                  • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 6:55 am ET)
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                    I love being condescended to by someone who thinks Glenn Beck has got the prescription for what ails the nation. Like being called fat by Kirstie Alley.
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                    • Author by SMTDL (January 06, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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                      Well stated..Glenn Beck and those like him are "indefensable".If you agree with Beck..you are not credible in an explanation of who is racist!
                      Beck ,Savage,Limbaugh and others say racist things and are defended even by elected officials,media "stars" etc..who have never heard them say anything racist and have never seen any racist signs or behavior from Teabaggers!!But any minority from the POTUS,The 1st Lady ,to Dr Gates/Rev wright /Judge Sotomayor are racist for out of context comments.Even Rupert Murdoch could never explain Beck's comment in calling the Pres a racist!!!
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                • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:13 am ET)
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                  It figures. You don't listen but you rail and call names.

                  Typical.

                  Don't even know what you're talking about... just like this poor website.
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                  • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:12 am ET)
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                    Educate me. Especially about where in that post I called you or anyone else a name.


                    This should be entertaining. Probably moreso than Glenn's little screed I had to sit through.
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                    • Author by CAinCO (January 06, 2010 11:51 pm ET)
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                      Hey wildcat....you must be one of those lazy union workers who thinks poor non working people should be supported by all of us hard working folks. I worked for a union in Calif in the 70's at Northrop and what a joke. Time and grade is all that counts and you dont have to worry about not producing because the union will protect the lazy worker from being fired. TAke your money and give it to the lazy who wont work...itll make you feel better...you need all the help you can get.
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                  • Author by MidnightWriter (January 06, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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                    Ah yes, "this poor website," . . .which apparently has News Corp. so rattled that they've launched a not so subtle attack on it.

                    Hey you News Corp. toadies, don't turn to Beck and Gutfeld if you want to shut this site down.

                    Just practice some ethical journalism. Start being responsible and there will be no need for a place like this.
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              • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:13 am ET)
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                Since you like to cut and paste your posts, I guess I can do the same with my response to you:

                Let's see ... I'm going to guess you have not actually read his books, since you have no idea what you are talking about. A good portion of "Dreams" talks about how he got past feeling the way you've quoted. You know (or maybe not), how he had to grow up, open up and get past hard feelings he developed from growing up as a half-Black, half-White child and teen.

                As for your second quote, the fact that you use it as proof of racism indicates the only racism is coming from you. His quote says that if the politics of the day become extremist against the Muslim faith, he would stand with them. Not that he would stand with only Black Muslims (or perhaps you think there ARE only Black Muslims) but that he would stand with Muslims against a McCarthy-type political attack. Doesn't your hero Glenn Beck constantly quote the old, "They came for the rich, but I did not stand because I was not rich ..." story? Because that is exactly what this is.

                To address your third "point", I will assume you also think anyone who defends the Catholic Church must be a pedophile, anyone who defends the Mormon Church must be racist, anyone who defends the Muslim Church must be a terrorist, and anyone who defends the Baptist Church must be a sexist, right?
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              • Author by SMTDL (January 07, 2010 11:56 am ET)
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                Can you quote anything from the 998 sermons by Rev. Wright that were not run around the clock on Fox news like the 2 that u know about.( 20 years x 50 sermons/yr = 1000) I gave the Rev 2 weeks off each year!!!Why didn't other sermons get used by the news media!!!!!
                Limbaugh,Beck,Hannity,Savage,Boortz etc. get to blast racist stuff almost every day but they are defended!!!!An ex-marine/ medical technician,a constitutional lawyer/POTUS ,a Harvard professor/researcher, experienced Circuit judge/Supreme court Justice get exoriated as racists for out of context comments ..not their actual record or actions.. by these..uncredentialed media haters.
                CONTEXT Is everything in discerning meaning and intent from the words of others..to ignore that in attacking someone while defending another who has said/done worse is hypocritical!!!
                Most Americans do not have family members that hate them because of their race.The sexual abuse of slave women by slave owners(and situations like Strom Thurmond)plus more recent biracial offspring (like Pres Obama) has created this unique situation for (usually) minority citizens.Those who have not experienced that ambivalence should restrain from such strong criticism(he's a racist) especially if they on use one out of context sentence!!!At least use a couple paragraphs (to absorb meaning) if you intend to use it to make a case..!!
                WildcatProgressive has done an excellent job below in capturing the actual context of these comments from the book..Hope this can be a learning moment!
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          • Author by RoadScholar (January 05, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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            Simple. He doesn't care if his lies cause injury and death.

            Remember the guy who killed 3 cops because he was certain they were from Obama's "gun confiscation squad"?

            Where do you think he got that idea?

            All the liars at Fox (plus their fat sweaty racist drug addict ally Rush) have blood on their hands.
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            • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:28 am ET)
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              Bolding what you write does not make it any less moronic and paranoid. You are aware of that, right?
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            • Author by louee (January 06, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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              Wow. You need some help with that paranoia.
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            • Author by CAinCO (January 06, 2010 11:31 pm ET)
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              thank you nh.....this web site is a joke...just a bunch of progressive non sense. You can not argue with idiots....just like Becks book says. When our country goes into the tank, we can sure thank all of you who voted this moronic bunch into office. It is just Chicago politics all over again. No one wants to know the truth...we will just vote the whole group out of office...and the way Dodd, Ritter, etc are not running again is a sure sign they are running for the hills because they sure wont be re-elected. Ha...even Gov Schwartzneggger will no longer support the health care bill...hahahahahah...he changed his mind.
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          • Author by achrispage6992 (January 06, 2010 10:33 am ET)
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            Are you serious? You're going to come at me with that?

            Let's try it this way:
            1. How is a theory that Rockefeller Plaza's art conveys hidden communist symbols, which in turn infest NBC, derived from Jefferson and/or Madison?

            2. How is Beck's support of a "One Word Government" theory derived from Jefferson and/or Madison?
            3. HOw is Beck's theory that the "progressive movement" is a unknown secret cabal of leaders who with all intent and purposes want America to become Communist derived from Jefferson and/or Madison?
            4. How is Beck's theory on "cash for clunkers" is merely windon dressing for the government wanting to “[seize] all of your personal and private information.” derived from Jefferson and/or Madison?

            I could go on and on with a littany of Becks' wild theories, but I can assure you of one thing; they have no basis in the writings of Jefferson and or Madison.

            For example:

            "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."
            -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802

            Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
            -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

            Madison quotes:
            “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together”

            “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.”

            I'm sorry slugger, I just can't fathom Glenn Beck garnering the respect of Jefferson or Madison. As you can see above, they shared no common thoughts in regards to Becks self proclaimed basis for all of his worry, angst, and fear which is that America has moved from the founders desire for America to be a Christian nation.

            Lastly, regarding my assertion that he is one step away from being a sociopath, I stand by that and will not waiver. You're right, it is my opinion, but unlike you, I base my opinion on objective reasoning. Such as his obvious fitting of a profile regarding these characteristics of a sociopath:

            Glibness and Superficial Charm- Do I really have to support this feature?

            Manipulative and Conning
            They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
            - Yep, that's Beck alright, check out his history as a radio jock. The fact that he constantly utilizes antoganism and humiliation towards those he disagrees with tells us much. There is simply too many examples of Beck's nasty personal attacks to list here.

            Grandiose Sense of Self
            Feels entitled to certain things as "their right
            ."- Are you really going to disagree with this? Let us no forget howhe complained that CNN never gave him what he deserved, he constantly brags about being the "3rd most listened to show in America." Again, the list goes on and on.


            Pathological Lying
            Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and convinced that his own lies are true
            - I think MMA covered this quite well already. Disprove these examples if you can.

            Shallow Emotions
            When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
            - We've all seen how Beck can use vapor rub to make himself cry. Shall I go on?


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            • Author by CAinCO (January 06, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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              Everything you said is exactly what a progressive is. Keep the poor folks down...so you can take them to the polls and vote for the liberal hand outs they will be expecting. You have described the liberal agenda to the tee. Good job...and the potus is not a liar...oh,,,, oooops,,,, I forgot he is the Messiah and can do no wrong. You are the fool!
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        • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 6:54 am ET)
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          Hi nimrod, just wondering: are we uneducated or were we brainwashed by education? Your argument is too cunning to be divined.
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          • Author by mescal (January 07, 2010 1:38 am ET)
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            Yeah, Wildcat, I was kinda' wondering the same thing myself. I guess I'll just have to run it past my commissar at our next party meeting/pot luck/brainwashing session.
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            • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 07, 2010 6:48 am ET)
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              You guys get pot luck? We just have to stand in bread lines at our meetings.
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    • Author by thaneb (January 05, 2010 10:31 am ET)
         
      Good work. Almost like cleaning up the Augean stables but seems almost pointless: Readers here already know this. Beck's listeners will not come here to find their hero a villan. If they do they'd probably dismiss as misinformation planted by Soros after reading the first item and bounce back to WorldNetDaily or whatever.
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    • Author by manofmystique (January 05, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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      Would you expect anything else from a man who spends full hours of the day lying to his fans?
      I watched this episode thinking this idiot can't help himself, nor does he want too. The words integrity and credibility is not in his vocabulary.
      Even "AFTER' doing some "research" Beck continues to misrepresent the facts. Why did Beck waste time doing research? His Tea-brain audience could care less. They love him just the way he is, liar and all.
      Why would Beck respond to a "false accusation" claim using falsehoods and lie to prove it's not true?
      That is exactly what this stupid racist buffoon did on his show.
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      • Author by sipwine635 (January 05, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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        Wasn't GB the person who outted ACORN and it's support for a brothel?
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      • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:09 am ET)
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        Specifics please? I've combed this blog for some, can't find one single one yet... specifics, like what is he lying about and WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?

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        • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:16 am ET)
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          Again, you could think about reading the article your posting to. More than a dozen instances listed of either misinformation or outright lies. Why should a poster copy what is just an up-scroll away? I mean, I suppose I can if you're that lazy.
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        • Author by manofmystique (January 06, 2010 8:21 am ET)
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          to NH
          "This President has exposed himself as a man who hateS white people or the white culture over and over. This President (I believe) is a racist" Glen Beck
          That's not only a lie, it is stupid.
          You either can't read or you don't understand what you read. The
          article above clearly spells out the many falsehoods Beck engages in. I just gave you an example.
          We are talking about a notorious liar here not someone who may have been mistaken.
          What good would it do to try to satisfy you with more evidence to show that this nutcase is lying (when he has exposed himself over and over that he is a liar)?
          If you ask a stupid question like "where is the Proof" from a great liar, it is obvious you are blind beyond comtempt.
          All the people Beck lied about on his show would eat him up alive if given a chance, that's why he doesn't engage them in person (or on his show).
          If you are foolish enough to defend a great liar, that mean you are easily led or better yet MISLED.
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          • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 06, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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            NH is not capable of reading or scrolling up. These are complex actions, well beyond his abilities.
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    • Author by TheSarge (January 05, 2010 11:25 am ET)
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      What surprises me is that anyone is still paying to run ads on his show.
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      • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:41 pm ET)
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        Err... His show is the highest rated day time show on cable. Why WOULDNT someone want to advertise there?
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      • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:08 am ET)
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        What surprises me and everyone else is you continue to say he lies, but never come up with any proof.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 05, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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      It was very nice of you at MMFA to supply us with long articles with all the embedded links to the whens and wheres you have caught Glenn with his britches down. He sees none of these facts because he is ADD. He doesn't have the patience to sit there and look at every one of the stories you have brought up. He is also betting that his fans won't either. He doesn't care about the facts and he has no patience for research. He likes to say he does, but he isn't forthcoming when it gets down to brass tacks. His audience doesn't notice or care. But, please, keep watching and keep tracking him. It isn't a waste of time or money, just consider it the lengths of rope upon which he will hang himself. It will happen, sooner or later.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (January 05, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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      Just wondering did any of you actually leave your mothers basement and get jobs yet?
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    • Author by DUtch (January 05, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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      Wow. Of the 17 points you list, there was an actual factual error on four of them.

      Four.

      The rest of them involve either Glenn using a different source than the ones you use, or he just has an opinion you don't share.

      The guy is on the air four hours a day, 250 days a year and you found FOUR factual errors.

      HOW many people work for MMFA?

      You know, George could really save a lot of money. All he needs is one employee at MMFA to post rotating names in headlines, "GLENN BECK!" "SARAH PALIN!" and then just let the trolls rant away in a comment section.
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    • Author by ROFRATU (January 05, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
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      BECK IS A RECOVERING ADDICT WHO BELIEVES HE WAS 'SAVED' FROM THE DEPTHS OF DESPAIR BY A HIGHER POWER. HE NOW BELIEVES THAT HE WAS 'SAVED' FOR A HIGHER PURPOSE - LEADING THE THRONGS AGAINST AN EVIL EMPIRE. HE IS AS DELUSIONAL NOW AS HE PROBABLY WAS IN THE THROWS OF ADDICTION...IT IS SCARY THAT THIS LUNATIC HAS A NATIONAL PLATFORM.
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    • Author by jdhobbes (January 05, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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      Personally, I would want an adviser with a unique, contrary perspective to make sure I consider all the points before making a decision. So an adviser who considers the needs of the group before the needs of the individual would provide that perspective. I wonder if Beck or his listeners even know how Communism works or what its ideals are...

      Without the Public Option, there is already a rationing of health care that is based on personal finances and debt load.

      I guess Glenn's real fear is that, no matter how much money he makes, he could be denied health care because he's a pompous jerk and propaganda doom and gloom merchant.
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    • Author by PurpleState (January 05, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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      So basically this was an hour of "Nuh-uh!"
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    • Author by YouDontMeanThat (January 05, 2010 5:29 pm ET)
         
      The filing of a petition seeking certification or decertification of a union should be accompanied by a sufficient showing of interest to support such a petition. Support is typically demonstrated by submitting dated signatures of at least 30% of employees in the bargaining unit in favor of forming a union, or to decertify a currently recognized union.

      http://www.nlrb.gov/Workplace_Rights/i_am_new_to_this_website/how_do_i_file_a_petition_to_start_or_remove_a_union.aspx
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    • Author by 4freedom (January 05, 2010 8:38 pm ET)
         
      Nativeofsf, you SAY Glenn Beck is a liar. On the things that matter, the really serious things, PROVE IT. It seems to me that Obama has proved that of himself over and over again by his own words. All of this crapolla about being transparent is just that, CRAP! Why would any one of you leftys want things done in Government without your knowledge? Do you think you are too dense to think for yourselves? When everything starts hitting the fan, you'll be sitting there in front of your video games going "wha happened", but then it will be too late. You persecute Glenn Beck for bringing things to light that you just don't WANT to believe. In the words of the famous actor "son, you can't handle the truth".
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    • Author by Texas Aggie (January 05, 2010 8:39 pm ET)
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      I have never watched Beck on TV, but I do get a lot of entertainment reading about his exploits. The guy is a living example of and by far the world's best practitioner of the Barnum-Fields syndrome, "There is a sucker born every minute/Never give a sucker an even break"
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      • Author by ProgLib (January 05, 2010 11:46 pm ET)
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        I haven't watched him for more than 1 min... he is extremely annoying to watch or listen to, even if im watching for comedy. Nothing does it justice.
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      • Author by ProgLib (January 05, 2010 11:47 pm ET)
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        Other than on MMfA and other media watchdogs, of course.
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      • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:07 am ET)
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        This is why you end up believing bogus blogs like this one.. You prove my point. You've never watched Beck? Then how do you know he's lying?

        He's showing them speaking their own words. I don't know how that's lying.. do you?

        You are such a rube.
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    • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 05, 2010 10:30 pm ET)
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      Some of this stuff is interesting. Some of this stuff is just pure gibberish.

      Beck reported fake murder story from ACORN video as fact. Umm... Ya. Right... He just showed the video, which still proved ACORN to be as corrupt an agency as has previously been shown. I find it odd that whats-her-name's story changed. She said she felt intimidated right after the video was released... Did she misspeak, just like a lot of Obama's administration?
      Technically Glen Beck indeed did NOT call for Van Jones to be removed. He asked why he was there. Why was he selected over everyone else? Instead of firing him, the administration could have just... Answered the question?

      Beck falsely claimed that no jobs are being "saved or created" by recovery legislation. Uh-huh... Because CBO is a reliable source. Got anything else to support it? Maybe if you can get CATO or the Heritage Foundation to support you as well, that way it can be taken as credible?

      Beck falsely claimed Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong. How do we know Anita Dunn's true intentions? There is no way in heck she would ever admit to it, if she did mean it. You cannot solidly claim this is a total lie.

      Beck echoed falsehood that ACORN received stimulus funds. I dont know how true what he said is, but your facts against him are weak. So what if they didn't specify any specific groups? They dont have to be specified to receive a little bit of the money. It all depends upon the language used.
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    • Author by ProgLib (January 05, 2010 11:45 pm ET)
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      A section on Beck claiming that Van Jones was "the only person, by the way, we have ever accused of being a communist" has been removed from this item.


      Why?
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    • Author by NH (January 06, 2010 2:06 am ET)
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      This is really funny. No one has ever refuted anything he's said, and mostly he's just shown what they have said on videos!

      Sorry you people look the fools as usual.

      If you don't want people to know you are scumfilth communists, then WHY DO YOU OPENLY ADMIT IT???

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      • Author by manofmystique (January 06, 2010 8:47 am ET)
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        What is "funny" is your brainless argument. Since the article above spelled out the case against Beck it is stupid to continue to defend the indefensible.
        If you weren't gullible you wouldn't display your ignorance, instead you would simply say 'people can call my idol a liar all they want, but I don't believe them'.
        No, you would rather show us how much you support the misguided "Birthers" and "tea-baggers" dummy(ing) down America movement.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (January 06, 2010 10:39 am ET)
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        Sorry pardner. It is you and Beck who are scum and filth. It is people like you who live in a country where you are given the freedom to openly show disdain and hatred for people for not thinking like you. The problem with that of course lies within the fact that people like Beck would never put their life on the line for the country they "love" so much. Just like all the guys you worship, i.e. Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Cheney, Bush, Beck had his chance to serve the country he supposedly loves so much. Ever wonder why he didn't?
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    • Author by toaster (January 06, 2010 10:17 am ET)
         
      must be some reason for all the fuss here??
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    • Author by toaster (January 06, 2010 10:23 am ET)
         
      The most effective forum for this debate would be to ask Me Beck to come on the show. Surely he couldn't afford to refuse............
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    • Author by canonshooterhv20 (January 06, 2010 10:25 am ET)
         
      Does this site ever cover anything else? It's funny that you all attack GB all day every day, that usually happens to people you're jealous of the most. Good to know you don't matter!
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    • Author by toaster (January 06, 2010 11:04 am ET)
         
      COUNT THE LIES: OBAMA VOWED 8 X TO TELEVISE HEALTHCARE from drudge today.
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    • Author by Reinhard (January 07, 2010 9:41 am ET)
         
      I notice Magcynic never responded to the request to show were Glenn Beck's conjecture equates his positions to those of Madison and Jefferson. Just the tired all chestnut- "you'll never get it anyway".Rflao. Oh..and a link to the Couric interview wherein his ,(Beck's),response makes no sense whatsoever and is just pure verbal bs.

      Mag- you got spanked. Try again.
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