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Giuliani falsely claims "[w]e had no domestic attacks under Bush"

January 08, 2010 11:12 am ET — 130 Comments

On Good Morning America, Rudy Giuliani falsely claimed that "[w]e had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama." In fact, while Giuliani and other conservative media figures have recently downplayed the number of attacks on the United States under former President Bush, there were numerous terrorist attacks attempted during the Bush administration, including the September 11, 2001, attacks, the attempted detonation of an explosive device on an airplane by shoe bomber Richard Reid, and the anthrax attacks.

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From the January 8 broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America:

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (co-host): But President Bush said he wanted to close [the detention center at Guantánamo Bay] as well.

RUDY GIULIANI: Well, he did because of the pressure. It isn't that President Bush did everything right. This whole thing is like -- they say, well, you know, President Bush sent people to Yemen. Well, he shouldn't have. He shouldn't have sent people to Yemen. Obviously, now, if he can do it again -- one in five people that have been released from Guantánamo have gotten involved in terrorist activities. At least -- that's what we can measure. Obviously it was a mistake. What he should be doing is following the right things that Bush did -- one of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama. Number two, he should correct the things that Bush didn't do right. Sending people to Yemen was wrong. Not connecting -- not getting this whole intelligence thing correct is both Bush's responsibility and Obama's.

Several domestic attacks took place under Bush, including 9-11 attacks

September 11, 2001 attacks. As CNN noted, "On September 11, 2001, four U.S. planes hijacked by terrorists crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people in a matter of hours."

2001 anthrax attacks. A March 2004 State Department report on "Significant Terrorist Incidents, 1961-2003" quotes then-Attorney General John Ashcroft saying of the letters containing anthrax mailed to various targets: "When people send anthrax through the mail to hurt people and invoke terror, it's a terrorist act." Five people were killed as a result of those letters in the autumn of 2001.

2001 shoe bomber attempted attack. In June 2008, then-Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff described Reid's December 2001 attempt "to blow up a trans-Atlantic plane with a shoe bomb" as an attempt to "carry out terrorist operations for Al-Qaeda."

2002 attack against El Al ticket counter at LAX. In July 2002, Hesham Mohamed Hadayet opened fire at an El Al Airlines ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport killing two people and wounding four others before being shot dead. A 2004 Justice Department report stated that Hadayet's case had been "officially designated as an act of international terrorism."

2002 DC-area sniper. The state of Virginia indicted Washington, D.C.-area sniper John Allen Muhammad -- along with his accomplice, a minor at the time -- on "an act of terrorism" for one of the murders he committed during a three-week shooting spree across Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C. Muhammad was convicted, sentenced to death, and subsequently executed for the crime.

2006 UNC SUV attack. In March 2006, University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill graduate Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar drove an SUV into an area of campus, striking nine pedestrians. According to reports, Taheri-azar said he acted because he wanted to "avenge the deaths or murders of Muslims around the world." Taheri-azar also reportedly stated in a letter: "I was aiming to follow in the footsteps of one of my role models, Mohammad Atta, one of the 9/11/01 hijackers, who obtained a doctorate degree."

Giuliani latest conservative to downplay terrorist attacks under Bush

Frederick: All domestic terrorist attacks since 9-11 took place "on Obama's watch." As Media Matters for America documented, Las Vegas Review-Journal publisher Sherman Frederick wrote in a January 3 column:

If this is what it takes to wake up Obama to the evils of this world, then he learned an easy lesson. But tell that to the personnel who lost their lives to terrorism at Fort Hood.

Then, as now, the Obama administration fails to swiftly acknowledge the threat. They demur in describing our enemy as radical Muslims. They plan to close the offshore prison for terrorists at Guantanamo Bay and transfer the prisoners to the United States. They give the enemy combatants who killed more than 3,000 people on 9/11 the privilege of a civilian federal trial in New York City when a military tribunal is more appropriate. And for three days our president failed to address his people directly on Abdulmutallab's failed effort to blow up a commercial flight over Detroit on Christmas Day. All of this on top of President Obama's noticeable refusal to characterize our struggle as a "war" on "terror."

In the wake of fierce criticism, Obama now talks tough about keeping America safe. But in the two cases of domestic terrorism since 9/11 -- both on Obama's watch -- red flags flew aplenty.

Matalin downplays attacks under Bush, falsely claiming "Bush inherited" 9-11 attacks. On the December 27 edition of CNN's State of the Union, Republican strategist Mary Matalin falsely claimed that Bush "inherited the most tragic attack on our own soil in our nation's history." In fact, the September 11, 2001, attacks occurred eight months into Bush's presidency and more than a month after he had received a Presidential Daily Briefing titled, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."

Perino: "We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term." Bush White House Press Secretary Dana Perino falsely claimed on the November 24, 2009, edition of Fox News' Hannity that "[w]e did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term."

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    • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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      At the risk of over-stating things, this may be the worst moment ever in the history of morning news with regard to accountability. A.) I never thought I live to see the day when Giuliani would need to be reminded of 9/11, and, B.) I never thought I live to see the day when a news anchor would forget about 9/11.
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      • Author by Cheney2012 (January 08, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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        The newspeople and the Democrats 'forget' about 9/11 it all the time. Nothing new there!

        "Isolated Extremist"

        That is what Barack Obama calls an Al-Quaida operative who tries to blow up an airplane.

        The quote ranks right up there with "great job Brownie" in terms of tone-deafness and stupidity.
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        • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 11:49 am ET)
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          "This incident, like several that have preceded it, demonstrates that an alert and courageous citizenry are far more resilient than an isolated extremist."

          What in God's name is wrong with you? Should Obama have said that "the extremist put up a good fight" or something? My what a sick puppy you are.
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          • Author by Bad News (January 08, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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            "Cheney doing 10 to 12, No Parole & No Bail"

            Now that would make a great Rap Song.


            Mr. News
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 08, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
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            What's the opposite of "isolated extremist"? extroverted moderate? FRiendly, outgoing centrist? Why does dick.12 love terrorists?
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        • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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          As usual there's CHENEY doing his usual FAR RIGHT WING spin and as usual all fraked up.
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        • Author by catfish1968 (January 08, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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          you comparing the two is one of the greatest examples of stupidity that I've read this morning.
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        • Author by Brian in FL (January 08, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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          Cheney2012, why are you such a crybaby wimp? It was one kid on a plane who was untrained. His attack completely failed.

          Yet you guys want to panic, trash the Constitution and human rights, engage in torture, and spend tens of billions of dollars we do not have.

          You guys are corwards who live in irrational fear. Period.

          We had two people die last night in my home town. Nobody cared. We had people die all around our country yesterday, and nobody panicked or did anything about it. We had tens of thousands of Americans die in 2009 because they did not have health care. Nobody panics about these things, yet we panic over one kid on a plane with a device that did not even detonate?

          We have completely lost sight of what is important. We have lost the ability to put things in their proper perspective. Your side promotes this irrational fear for political gain.
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          • Author by deckbose (January 08, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
               
            Props to Brian in FL for putting the truth up top. So many Repugs want to bury the lead. Not only have they slipped the leash of rational thinking, but they are following bin Laden's marching orders to a remarkable extent.

            Bin Laden's 2004 audiotape said the goal of al-Qeada was to drive the US into bankruptcy and force us to stop focusing on our own best national interest.

            Could these fringe Repugs serve bin Laden any better?

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        • Author by slowtyper (January 08, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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          what could we expect from anyone who self identifies with dick..(and i do mean the most obvious colloquialism)

          i tried to type chen**...but my computer wouldn't let me..
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        • Author by Samurai Cowboy (January 08, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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          Are you mentally ill? Have you had some sort of brain seizure? No. You are just one of the little, irelevant Tea Baggers who have little to no education, little to no intelligence and are easily brainwashed into believing everything that you are told. You are a sick individual to make such a claim. You insult the memories of all of those innocent people who were murdered on Sept.11, 2001. You also insult those who lost loved ones on that terrible day. You should be ashamed of yourself for even saying such a thing. The then I remember. Republicans have no shame, lack a conscience , and have neither morals or scruples.
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        • Author by bintx (January 08, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
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          Seriously???? You are an incredibly dense human being.

          Try READING sometime instead of listening and regurgitating the CRAP you are being fed on Fox and Hate Talk Radio.
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        • Author by American Dream Ends (January 08, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
             
          Notice how liberals operate when facts are presented that expose their propaganda. They call you names, they make derogatory remarks and they try to silence any thought or opinion that is contrary to theirs. They hate free speech because a majority of Americans (see the Gallop poll published yesterday) do not like liberals or their ideas. Free speech usually exposes their hidden agendas and highlights their weaknesses (like national security). Today they will shout you down and try to silence independent thought through intimidation. What will they do tomorrow if their power is allowed to grow? What did other socialist and communist movements do when they gained power?
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (January 08, 2010 6:07 pm ET)
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          Your whole response is a FAIL!
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        • Author by TheSarge (January 09, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
             
          If we're going to rank quotes in terms of "tone-deafness and stupidity", it's going to be a long list. A long, long list of things we can quote you as having written here on MMFA, Cheney2012. So do yourself a favour and STFU.
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    • Author by Cheney2012 (January 08, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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      This is hilarious...classic Liberal Doublespeak.

      You guys are COMPLETE LIARS as anyone who says "no attaks under Bush" means SINCE 9/11.

      As for the others, other than Richard Reid you nutjobs on the LEFT would NEVER call these other ones "terror attacks." The left's reaction to El-Al ticket counter was "nothing to see here" and probably much glee that an Israeli airline would be targeted since U.S. support of Israel is part of the problem.

      So if this shooting is a terror attack. What is Ft. Hood? Is that a terror attack? We're waiting for an answer liberals. Neither Obama or anyone in his Adm. will say that.

      D.C. Sniper? He was just executed and none of you idiots would acknowledge that he was a radical muslim, not to mention his young accomplice.

      So please LIBS, you have nothing to criticize on terrorism. Do all of us real Americans and STFU!!!!!
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (January 08, 2010 11:48 am ET)
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        Do all of us real Americans and STFU!!!!! - Cheney2012

        You're a liar and not a real American and I wouldn't do you with a foot of bubblewrap around you.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 08, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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          You gotta admit, Cheney puts up a pretty unbeatable argument. That is, if you accept all of the loopy fictional stuff he tells you that you believe , and concede all of the things he tells you that you did or didn't do in the past.

          If you stick to reality, rather than what Rush has told Dick Jr., however, he doesn't really say anything at all.
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (January 08, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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            You're right. All I have to do is suspend all cognitive brain functions and he starts to make perfect sense.
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            • Author by mary59 (January 08, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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              Even if we ceased all brain functions, the dead brain stem cells would cry out...
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 08, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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                YOU KNOW WHAT, MARY AND SCIENCEBUFF???? YOU HATE JESUS, DON'T HAVE A JOB AND WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR EVERY NEED. YOUR LIERS IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THE MEDIA IS BEING HONEST BY SAYING THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE THAT THEY DON'T REALLY BELIEVE, AND MMFA IS A LIARS IF THEY DON'T AGREE. ALSO NONE OF YOU HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PUPPIES ARE CUTE, COUNTRY MUSIC RULES OR ABORTION IS MURDER !!! I CHALLENGE YOU TO ANSWER THIS ON THE CONDITION THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF MY PREMISES.
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                • Author by mary59 (January 08, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
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                  I LOVE YOU'RE ALL CAPS PATRIOTIC CHALLANGE AND WILL DO A BUNCH OF REASEARCH ON THE INTERNETS TO SEE IF ALL YORE STETMENTS ARE TRUE OR NOT.
                  GAWD BLESS AMERIKA.
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                  • Author by ScienceBuff (January 08, 2010 2:33 pm ET)
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                    I tried to respond in kind, but my effort fell far short of yours and the Col.'s. I guess I'll accept my status as a librul looser.
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                • Author by tulip27 (January 08, 2010 6:35 pm ET)
                     
                  HAHAHA! I literally just almost peed my pants because of this comment. No where did Mary or Sciencebuff mention Jesus or their employment status, so you have no right to bring it up.
                  Y-O-U-R means "your". Y-O-U-'-R-E means "you are". L-I-A-R-S.
                  What media are you talking about? Fox News? That's not media, that's propaganda.
                  Puppies? WTF? Country music? Seriously? Abortion? OMG, you have issues. Serious, serious issues.
                  Stop spouting all your ridiciousness on a website that has absolutely no relevance to what you are talking about.
                  Spare us from your ignorance, please.
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          • Author by Tiredog (January 09, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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            I'm not surprised that he believes it...afterall, the real Dick believed it...
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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 08, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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        Do all of us real Americans and STFU!!!!!


        Classy.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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        CHENEY2012=far RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA.(think DR. JOSEFF GOEBBLES).
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (January 08, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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          When you have no argument resort to the bogus Nazi insult.

          This is the best tactic of a left-wing that lacks a moral foundation for society, is bankrupt of any ideas, and which has not cared a bit that 95 percent of its public policy initiatives for the last century have FAILED.

          So yes, it would be beneficial if liberals would just STFU. Because you have nothing of substance nor competence to add to the political or policy discussion.
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          • Author by mrhebert74 (January 08, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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            So yes, it would be beneficial if liberals would just STFU. Because you have nothing of substance nor competence to add to the political or policy discussion.

            I couldn't agree more, Cheney. Thank you for once again reaffirming my faith in your judgement of substance and competence.
            Now would you please go crawl in a hole, so we can respond to some less-boring trolls?
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          • Author by pete592 (January 08, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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            When you have no argument, you impugn other peoples' patriotism and citizenship.
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          • Author by 2200 (January 08, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
               
            Dicky, Liz, gay sister, Lynn, we know that you are using the Cheney name because you worship at the altar of hypocricy. After eight years you left us with an economy on the brink of collapse, trillions in debt, no health insurance for thirty million people, two wars that weren't paid for, a tax break for the top 1% of Americans while we are at war with no way to pay for it, free medicare drugs that weren't paid for, and you call us un-American because we have the nerve to question your competance? You need to get over yourselves and think about someone other than your all white angry Republican friends who believe they are always right and Dems are always wrong. And by the way why do you think it's cute to use STFU? Is that what a good Christian would say? Keep drinking the cool aide.
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          • Author by slowtyper (January 08, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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            please sir..give us one example..just one is all i ask.. of what "conservatives" have contributed positively to America..in the words of Thomas Frank, they have "..ruined government,enriched themselves, and beggared the nation."

            you're not even a decent troll..
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            • Author by tulip27 (January 08, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
                 
              Abraham Lincoln was a conservative. He did some good for America, as far as I know. Same with Teddy Roosevelt...Hmmm...

              Anyway, I am liberal, and I identify with the Democratic party, but comments like this still upset me. We shouldn't get angry at someone because of their political party. If they deserve anger, it should be because of something they did, not something they believe. Everyone has a right to their own opinions, and we shouldn't be yelled at because of it.
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          • Author by bintx (January 08, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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            Why is a clearly applicable historical reference bogus?

            No offense, guy with the stupid name, but I have NEVER seen you post anything here of substance or which indicates that you have any sort of competence in anything at all.
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          • Author by Samurai Cowboy (January 08, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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            How much does the RCN pay you to say such things? I would not be the least bit surprised that this is the only way that you can bring in any money, because you are so contentious that you probably get fired from any job that you try to hold.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 08, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
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            lacks a moral foundation for society, is bankrupt of any ideas, and which has not cared a bit that 95 percent of its public policy initiatives for the last century have FAILED. - Dick

            That's it! That is the exact definition of Dick Cheney. Thanks, Dick! Although, Dick's policies may have actually failed 100% of the time.
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          • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 5:05 pm ET)
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            CHENEY, it is you that have no arguement. All you do is regurgitate FAR RIGHT WING talking points that RUSH and SEAN spit out. It is the RIGHT that is morally, politically,and idealy BANKRUPT. Your heros have no CLASS or DECENCY. If you dont like the DR. GOEBBLES line i'll give you another one. CHENEY 2012= PRAVDA. Same thing both are PROPAGANDA related and fit you very well.
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          • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 6:34 pm ET)
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            Actually,CHENEY,95% of the LIBERAL PUBLIC POLOCIES OVER THE LAST CENTURY HAVE SUCCEDED.It's the CONSERVATIVE polocies over the same period that have failed.
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          • Author by worrierking (January 09, 2010 7:55 am ET)
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            You should try to live without the things you take for granted that were earned by the left-wing.

            Things like the weekend, vacations, health care and education.

            If the right-wing had it's way during the last century, most of us would have died before we were sixty. Many of us who lived to that ripe old age would have had our limbs mangled when we were children working in sweatshops.

            You might also want to thank those left-wingers, who stood up to fight the Nazis in 1941 while many on the right did not want to anger their business partners in Germany.
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      • Author by 2200 (January 08, 2010 12:14 pm ET)
           
        Hey Cheney, Dicky is the biggest liar of all. Draft dodger, waterboarder, arrogant to the point that he shot a friend in the face while hunting. (I'm a hunter and that has never happened to me or anyone I hunt with because we watch and care about out fellow hunters first. The kill is second to safety. He cared about the kill first and the safety of his other hunters second.) His daughter is gay, how does that square with Christian values? The bottom line is that you are a white angry man or woman who can't stand a black man running their Country. You are against health insurance because the poor and minority will get help and that goes against everything white angry Republicans care about. They only care about themselves. 2199
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      • Author by shaggles (January 08, 2010 12:19 pm ET)
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        "You guys are COMPLETE LIARS as anyone who says "no attaks under Bush" means SINCE 9/11."

        Sorry but why does Bush get a pass for 9/11?

        "So please LIBS, you have nothing to criticize on terrorism. Do all of us real Americans and STFU!!!!!"

        I'd be really tired if I had to "do" all reall Americans. ;) All kidding aside though WTF? We aren't real Americans? Do I need to provide my birth certificate before I can call Guiliani on his lies?
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (January 08, 2010 12:23 pm ET)
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          Nobody said he gets a pass. I'm telling you what they mean when they say it. It is a MISTAKE for them to say it. But reporting what they say as if they really believe is dishonest, yet not surprising as we know that dishonesty is the cornerstone of Liberalism
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          • Author by mrhebert74 (January 08, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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            Reporting what they say as if they really believe is dishonest

            I take it all back. You aren't a boring troll after all. This nugget is OUTSTANDING. I love that in your world, the press is dishonest if they take wingnuts' words at face value. Thank you for this fascinating peek into the right-wing "mind."
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 08, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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              Have to agree, that is hilarious. The Wingnut Derby is off to a great start this year. This may top the nutter who insisted that Red Eye's ratings proved the show was funny, and the disoriented troll who was arguing against himself about what he believed a madrassah is..

              Pace yourself, dittozombies. There's 357 days left, and stoopid isn't an unlimited resource. Or is it?
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              • Author by twseattle (January 08, 2010 3:51 pm ET)
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                Nobodt knows where the bottom of that well is Colonel, although prospecting in Alaska paid off last year.
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (January 08, 2010 12:34 pm ET)
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            That has to be one of the most meaningless jumbles of words I've ever read. Try to stop shaking in terror and maybe you can achieve coherence.
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          • Author by shaggles (January 08, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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            I don't think it's a mistake. Maybe when Perino said it but she was called on it and clarified what she meant. Everyone coming after her should know they need to qualify what they say.
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          • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 08, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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            It is a MISTAKE for them to say it.


            Amazing how many of them are making the exact same mistake isn't it? Don't you think... oh nevermind, of course you don't.
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          • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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            CHENEY, dishonesty is the cornerstone of NEO CONSERVATISM, not LIBERALISM. The reason this country is as great as it is is because of LIBERALISM.
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          • Author by Tiredog (January 09, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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            "dishonesty is the cornerstone of Liberalism"

            Three letters and four words for you:

            WMD

            Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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      • Author by rjvg50 (January 08, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
           
        YO-- Cheney2012
        The following statements are false:
        1. no attaks (sic) under Bush AT ALL
        2. no attaks (sic) under Bush SINCE 9/11
        3. no attaks (sic) under Bush" means SINCE 9/11, oh and Anthrax...
        .
        .
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        6. ... and the DC Sniper

        The following is true
        "We got attacked repeatedly by various terrorists under Bush"

        It's called logic, try it sometime.
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      • Author by gwe (January 08, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
           
        Chaney troll ... quit rewriting history. Did Al-Qaeda or any other terrorist group claim responsibility for either the DC Sniper or the more recent Ft. Hood attack? Both perps might have been motivated by terrorist ideas, but neither were sponsored by a known terrorist group. Neither were part of a larger terror plot.

        We "Real Americans" are right to be unhappy about the latest incident because so much effort has been put into making the system better, but it still does not work to it's full potential. This is a game of "whack-a-mole" ... the terrorist will continue to keep popping up and we will need to continue to attempt to "whack" them. The only way out of this is to kick the power cord out of the machine. The root cause of terrorism has not been addressed. The previous administration only saw a need to get bigger hammers to whack the moles ... that leads to a never ending escalation. We really need to find a way to stop playing.

        My fault with Obama is that he understands that this is the game we are playing, but he states that we must always stay one step ahead. (You can't always know where the next "mole" will pop up.) There is not way to *always* be one step ahead. We can try, but the terrorist will continue to poke our defenses in hopes of slipping something through and they will eventually be successful. We need to find ways of convincing them that this method of operating will not achieve their goals.

        We need to get away from the unthinking, gut reacting past and be smarter in how we handle things. Use the "brain" ...
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      • Author by sluggo (January 08, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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        CHENEY2012 MY HERO!!!!

        I know you are getting paid to post here, and I am really trying to learn your techniques so I can get paid too (sort of like being your apprentice). Let me see if I got it right...

        1. Using "doublespeak" is good because most of the posters here recognize Orwell. This won't work on teabagger sites.
        2. Listing the standard RNC talking points is OK, but not real effective. People here have seen most of them on FOX.
        3. Bring up the D.C. Sniper was really great!! This is not one of the standard RNC talking points this week (unless Dick Armey's FAX machine is busy working).
        4. The Real Americans phrase is OK, but getting a little over-used. I would have used "Real God Fearing Americans" myself.

        P.S. do they pay you for only the first post or for each reply? Frankly, I would cheat a little and just cut and past a set of standard replies so I don't have to type as much. Things like:

        "Just what I expect from a Liberal Blowhard"
        "You people are Liberal Losers" (my own phrase..Like it?)
        "You are going to Lose big-time in 2012 - get over it"

        This way, you can just cut and paste you responses.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 08, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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          to nit-pick, Sluggo, but the preferred wingnut spelling is;

          "You people are Liberal Loosers"
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        • Author by snewkirk (January 08, 2010 1:45 pm ET)
             
          you can also use the "nuh-uh" response, as in:

          statement: 9/11 happened under Bush's administration.
          response: Nuh-uh.

          OR

          statement: Healthcare in the U.S. is needs to be fixed.
          response: Nuh-uh.
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      • Author by bintx (January 08, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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        Excuse me, jackonkey, but I AM A CONSERVATIVE and it's people like you who PRETEND to be CONSERVATIVE who need to shut up. Nothing you said above was true. It was the BUSH Administration and its supporters who denied and CONTINUE to deny that these were terrorist attacks.

        Ft. Hood . . . not so much. Looks more like the work of a mentally disturbed individual who happened to be a Muslim.

        What a fricking idiot!
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      • Author by snewkirk (January 08, 2010 1:32 pm ET)
           
        Nice job mixing up denials with a steady dose of projection. Your argument is all over the place Cheney2012.
        So the D.C Sniper WAS, or WASN'T a terrorist? You say he WASN'T since there were no attacks under Bush after 9/11. Then you say he WAS a radical muslim who executed a terror attack.
        BullCrap 101, you preach it well.
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      • Author by jmalmstrom (January 08, 2010 2:59 pm ET)
           
        Get a grip Cheney2012. Richard Reed, the shoe bomber doesn't count? The anthrax attacks don't count? Face it, the Republican Party has almost no credibility when it comes to national security. As a retired Navy officer who served from Nixon through to Carter, I can tell you that the worst handling of the military came under Republican SecDef: Cheney, Rumsfield (both times) and Weinberger are classic examples of people who wouldn't know a sound decision making process if it came up and slapped them in the face.
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      • Author by m_eh (January 08, 2010 5:00 pm ET)
           
        This is hilarious...classic Liberal Doublespeak.

        You guys are COMPLETE LIARS as anyone who says "no attaks under Bush" means SINCE 9/11.


        I'm not going to throw insults or anything and I suggest others would do left wing causes a service to not get angry and post "you guys do this..." and otherwise calling names and hurling insults etc etc

        lets take this statement head on:

        Out of everything that Cheney cited. Not one lie even comes close to the magnitude of "no attacks under Bush". Most of what you consider to be lies seem to me to be semantics, debate the depth if you wish, but they do not even approach the bald face deception of that statement. This is how revisionist history starts.
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      • Author by Aurien (January 08, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
           
        So all we need to do to stop terrorism is to call them terrorists and terrorist attacks? I mean really. Who cares about what the government calls it. It's not like there is a magical word you just say and it all disappears.
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      • Author by Boxer1979 (January 08, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
           
        "no attaks under Bush"

        [http://www.stylusstudio.com/images/screenshots/spell_check.gif]
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        • Author by retiredinsf (January 08, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
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          Is that you Barbara? "no attaks under Bush".

          You leftists crack me up!
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 09, 2010 12:45 am ET)
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            You dunce, the word "attaks" was the misspelling of Cheney2012, then copied by this poster!

            What a tool you always prove yourself to be.
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          • Author by Boxer1979 (January 09, 2010 9:10 pm ET)
               
            You leftists crack me up!

            You crack me up!
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      • Author by tangaroa (January 08, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
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        Since I don't have any psychic ability, I tend to think that when someone says "no attacks under Bush" they mean "no attacks under Bush" It's a pretty simple statement. If they mean "no attacks under Bush except 9/11, shoebomber, anthrax, etc. etc. etc." why not say so rather than expecting us to be mindreaders?
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      • Author by pmacdone7867 (January 09, 2010 7:26 pm ET)
           
        You sort of make it up as you go along, don't you? In this entry you pose your argument which isn't very compelling. (Us "libs" are liars and we are supposed to understand what Giuliani meant. Not what he said.) Then you tell us what our opinions are. (The DC sniper was killing people in my neighborhood and it felt like terrorism to me, if that matters to you.) Then you say you don't like our opinions.

        You are being too easy on yourself. Go learn some basic logic.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 08, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
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      Historical accuracy is not in the RIGHT WINGERS PLAYBOOK.
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    • Author by dave (January 08, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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      After looking over the proof provided by MMFA, I again ask why aren't we profiling Muslim males between 19-45 at airports again?
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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 08, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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        I'm guessing 'cause it doesn't work?
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        • Author by slowtyper (January 08, 2010 1:05 pm ET)
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          and it displaces security resources from where they are really needed..

          like most quick "band aid fixes' pushed by those with only political agenda's it's meant to work only with the "sound-bite mentality" crowd..
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 08, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
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            That displacement of security resources is the biggest reason.

            That's why we aren't going to start putting people around the world who buy tickets with cash on any watch list. And we aren't going to put people who don't have any carry-on luggage onto a watch list either. It would add a ton of people to those lists, which would really hinder the filtering process our intelligence people have to go through. And if we did start profiling people based upon their religion, or their lack of baggage or their purchasing with cash, they'd start changing the religion they say they are, and would start packing a bag to check, and they'd start using bogus credit cards to purchase their tickets. All we'd 'catch' would be useless extra work.
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      • Author by bintx (January 08, 2010 1:23 pm ET)
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        'Cause it wouldn't work. Not all radical Muslims are males between the ages 19-45 and most Muslims don't run around with a big old sign on their backs saying "I'm a Muslim, I'm a Muslim," particularly, if they are planning to blow up a plane. If a profile is established by us, then they will simply change their profile to white women/men, Asian men/women, etc.

        Profiling is too simplistic.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 08, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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        How do you know who is a Muslim male between the ages of 19-45 again?
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      • Author by Samurai Cowboy (January 08, 2010 3:18 pm ET)
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        I am guessing because it is against the law, does not work and takes resources away from law enforcement.
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      • Author by SwissMiss (January 09, 2010 3:59 am ET)
           
        Because MUSLIM isn't written on passports, and if it was, would a terrorist admit they are one?!
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    • Author by Indy (January 08, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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      Oh whaaaaa! Bush felt under pressure to close Gitmo according to Giuli's tap dance spin. Oh Bush now cared about what people thought? Nice new revisionist take on Bush as a sensitive and inclusive decision maker. BS he (Bush) couldn't justify it any longer either. He finally started choking on Cheeeney's and Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld's Neo-Con, Fascist, Imperialist grape flavored Koolaid brand mix.
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    • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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      America harbors the greatest liars in the world and many of them are featured on TV talk shows.
      These liars get away with fibbing because of the people they are lying to (talking too).
      We have a black President, but we get mostly white people talking about him. Therein lies (no pun intended) the problem. White folks, talking to other white folks, have a problem defending a black man.
      We need diversity, particularly intelligent black analysts on TV and not uncle-toms or black people who just want to be accepted by white people.
      Why can't we have more black people discussing this black president? This would be fair and balanced, correct?
      Everyday, on TV, we witness white commentators allow white pundits get away with saying things that are untrue about this President. The few white people who stand up for Obama are weak and sorry.
      I can't see an intelligent black man sit among a group of people, in an "honest discussion", and not say anything while someone outright lies.
      Giuliani went on a few TV talk shows and told the same lie and no one stood up to him, or corrected him. Why is that?
      We need diversity we need people who will engaged someone when they lie.
      There is a common theme that allowed Giuliani to get away with lying to the American public; everyone on the panel was white. What eles can explain how Giuliani is able to tell a HUGE lie and walk away clean?
      I repeat, "America harbors the greatest liars in the world" AND they are protected too.
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      • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 1:04 pm ET)
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        What in god's name does Obama's race have to with any of this? You want black people to discuss him and his policies and somehow that would make for more pertinent analysis? Ridiculous.

        Guiliani got away with what he said because he was on a network that is committed to dumping on Obama 24/7, not because of his race but because of the political party he belongs to.

        Race has nothing to do with it.
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        • Author by bintx (January 08, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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          ABC and MSNBC are committed to dumping on Obama 24/7????
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          • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 1:56 pm ET)
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            Correction, I thought Giuliani was on Fox, sorry. But the rest of what I said about this not being about race is unchanged.
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            • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
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              Unchanged, really? ABC and MSNBC are committed to dumping on Obama 24/7? This is a bit of a breakthrough coming from you.
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              • Author by westla (January 08, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
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                Victor,

                Do you honestly have reading comprehension issues? Right On admitted he got the networks wrong, and it was his comments about race that were unchanged. That was pretty clear in his follow up post so I don't know why you think it's about ABC or MSNBC.

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                • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
                     
                  He dismissal of race as playing ANY role whatsoever was predicated on this misinformation occurring on a purely partisan news network. That his point can remain "unchanged" is silly.
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                  • Author by westla (January 08, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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                    What does his statement about the ridiculous aspect of pertinent analysis only coming from black people have to do with any network? His main point being "unchanged" is completely understandable and makes perfect sense.

                    I have no idea why you can't, or won't, see that.
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                    • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 3:28 pm ET)
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                      westla,

                      Please, don't waste your time with Victor. He is a couple shingles short and does this sort of thing with me all the time. :) If he enjoys it, let him have that.

                      Thanks for your explanations.
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                    • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 3:43 pm ET)
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                      He claimed race has nothing to do it because Guiliani was on a network that is committed to dumping on Obama 24/7, not because of his race but because of the political party he belongs to.

                      I think his point (whatever it is) would have to change from his mistake of not watching the clip before posting.
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        • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
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          to right on

          When you have a bunch of liars talking with other liars and the subject is a black man that is the making of a lynch mob. This is why they are so negative and irresponsible toward this president.
          What is "ridiculous" is that you don't understand what you read or better yet, you can't accept the truth. You believe things are find just the way they are. There is no way in hell that is true.
          Obama's race has EVERYTHING to done with the constant petty attacks and criticism, that's why you bastards can't be truthful. How can you be truthful about someone you hate?
          If you don't agree with me that's find (that is expected), but I stand by what I said. There is no way that a REAL man of color would sit there and watch a bunch of deceivers tell lies and not say anything, because these same white folks could lie on their a*&..
          The whole time Obama been on the scene you white people have trouble telling the truth and it is evident by these talk shows.
          "What in god's name does Obama's race have to do with any of this? You want black people to discuss him and his policies and somehow that would make for more pertinent analysis?"
          This comment demonstrates to me you don't understand what you read. I am NOT talking about discussing policies, you idiot, I'm talking about lying people, lying people who try to disguise falsehoods as some kind of analysis.
          It isn't just Guiliani who gets away with lying on these talk shows, it is white people (not all) who have a problem with this black president, Guiliani is just the latest.
          As long as mostly white folks talk about this black president they don't owe it to anyone to tell the truth (the racist mantality).
          That's why the lying goes on and on.
          These professional liars would not get away with lying or criticizing former President Bush constantly on TV (although Bush is the one they should have been more concerned about).
          Folks would not stand for it. You would be labeled "unpatriotic" and "un-American".
          I repeat, whether you like it or not, there is a need for diversity, and not just anybody, mature, acknowledgeable people of color who has nothing to gain from lying. It's a game to these white people on TV.
          Again, we don't want any uncle-toms or kiss-a** black people, which i'm sure you and Fox News wouldn't have a problem with.
          Until a broader cross of people are invited to join the discussing these liars will continue to lie and be protected by those who love things just the way they are; "unfair and unbalanced".
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          • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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            Every criticism leveled at Obama is no worse or any more off the deep end than the same crap that these same people threw at Clinton, and he is not black. Or some of the same mud that was thrown at Bush from some on the left, and he is not black.

            So you are free to believe that it's all racially motivated but if he were the first president to battle scurrilous, unwarranted attacks against him you'd have a point. But he isn't. And you know that.
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            • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
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              Bush and Clinton's status as Americans was never called into question.
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              • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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                And Obama nor his wife have never been accused of murder.
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                • Author by Max Credits (January 08, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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                  And that was not based on race, though it was partisan politics at its worst. Obama's questioned alliances with un-American interests, however, is not something devoid of racial factors.
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                • Author by John Paradox (January 09, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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                  yet
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              • Author by Clint2727 (January 08, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
                   
                Neither has President Obama's, unless you're a total imbecile.
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              • Author by tulip27 (January 08, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
                   
                The fact that Obama's "status as America" is not clear is absolutely ridiculous. He was born in Hawaii in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959.
                His first trip to Kenya was when he was in his 20's.
                Just because his father wasn't born in America doesn't mean he's not American.
                If Bush's father had been born in a different country, would anybody freak out about it? If Clinton's father had been born in a different country, would anybody freak out? If Obama's father was white, would anybody freak out?
                It is pure and blatant racism.
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            • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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              What do you mean Clinton isn't black? lol
              Did you know Clinton is considered the first black President of the united states? To hateful white people that makes him a "ni66er-lover".
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              • Author by southerngal (January 08, 2010 4:36 pm ET)
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                Well, your point is until we get some black commentators, specifically liberal ones who don't suck up to white people or something, we can never really have a fair and balanced critique of him. And that entire premise is nonsense, pure race baiting nonsense.

                There are many sincere and issue oriented commentators of all colors in our media discussing Obama with intelligence and respect. Their race is wholly and completely irrelevant. You won't find any of them highlighted on this website because what you see here is the bottom of the barrel in talk show political analysis. So you unfaily extrapolate that onto all criticism of Obama and try and paint all his critics with one broad brush.

                You are the one demanding race be an element, not the other way around.
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                • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
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                  To "right" but wrong

                  I speak of those who are guilty of this practice.

                  "The sincere and issue oriented commentators of all colors" you talk about are drowned out by the overwhelming number of liars that I speak of. They can not compete with the majority. Those majority of pundits do a disservice to their profession because they do nothing to educate or enlighten the public, instead their "opinions" (lies) are guided by their dislike for the President.
                  So they don't give a damn what they say. Look at the ridiculous things they say.

                  You could have "fair and balanced" commentary if pundits was mature, professional and held accountable for what they say. The problem is they are not held accountable; the question becomes, why?
                  I do not need anyone to tell me why. History and common sense is all that is needed.
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 08, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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        There are many people in America who have hard feelings towards Obama because of his race, but I've seen no evidence that any of those people (well, Beck might be an exception) participate in forums or have a nationwide audience.

        I think you're totally off base when you say that this white panel let Guiliani get away with it because they're white.
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        • Author by mary59 (January 08, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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          I tend to agree with you dolly, but I too am disgusted to see the same tired old white guys as commentators being constantly asked their tired old opinions about things, when a lot of them don't have a lick of sense or compassion.
          It would be refreshing to see more young voices, esp. people of color, who have a pro-labor, pro-peace point of view. Where are they??
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 08, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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            I am disgusted with the panels too, but I don't think that the problem is that people who have hard feelings toward Obama because of his father's race fill those panels.

            I think that panels made up as you suggest WOULD BE a great idea. I'm not black, so maybe I don't see what you see as a black woman.
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            • Author by mary59 (January 08, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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              I'm not a black woman either, but it's time to get some diversity and fresh ideas cooking on the telly.
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        • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
             
          To Deldolly
          Would you feel better if I said birds of feather lie together?
          You don't have to believe race has nothing to do with a lynch mob or lynch mob mantality.
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        • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
             
          They get away with it thanks to gullible people. I lived in America long enough to know a lying demon when I see one.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 08, 2010 1:48 pm ET)
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        I think it has more to do with the panel being partisan and stupid than it does with being white.
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        • Author by manofmystique (January 08, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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          And I KNOW it has more to do with race THAN partisanship, how eles can you explain a whole Party saying no to everything Obama PROPOSES?
          These people are displaying their hate for all to see and people refused to accept reality. Such negative talk usually lead to assasination (attempts).
          You think these professional liars don't know that?
          I speak truth to power you want to believe it "partisanship". Hog wash.
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          • Author by mrhebert74 (January 08, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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            I KNOW it has more to do with race THAN partisanship, how eles can you explain a whole Party saying no to everything
            Ummm... I'm not trying to say the right isn't characterized by racism, but do you realize that you just rejected "partisanship" as an explanation for the unified behavior of a party? I think that's how we define "partisanship."
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          • Author by retiredinsf (January 08, 2010 9:53 pm ET)
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            Here is a person filled with hate. I sincerely feel sorry for you. May you one day realize it is up to you to take control of your destiny instead of allowing yourself to think you are some sort of victim.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 09, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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              "Here is a person filled with hate. I sincerely feel sorry for you. May you one day realize it is up to you to take control of your destiny instead of allowing yourself to think you are some sort of victim." - retiredinsf

              Thanks for that confession, retired. That was a very open, very contrite, very honest moment for you. There may be hope for you yet. You have recognized your own hate, which has been obvious to the rest of us for as long as you have been posting. You feel sorry for yourself and you seem determined to take control of your destiny and stop blaming others in your ill-conceived conspiracy theories of "leftists" and "liberals" and stop making yourself out to be a victim. Good for y-....what?...he's talking about someone else? Damn. Never mind, retired, carry on with your usual craziness.
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          • Author by open_mind (January 09, 2010 6:00 pm ET)
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            Freudian slip?
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    • Author by DUtch (January 08, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
         
      Seth Meyers: "Really? REALLY? Media Matters, you can't discern the difference between an "attack" and an "attempted attack? Reeeeealy???"

      Are y'all really THAT intellectually bankrupt?

      "Wolf!" cried the boy.
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    • Author by Big Dan (January 08, 2010 2:11 pm ET)
         
      Dana Perino also said there were no domestic terrorist attacks under Bush:

      http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911240056
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    • Author by That Guy (January 08, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
         
      Bragging that "There were no domestic attacks under Bush since 9/11" is kind of like touting the fact that the Titanic hasn't had any accidents since 1912.
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    • Author by MartinM (January 08, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
         
      Giuliani came across as a vicious political hack who only understands attack, attack, attack. Its not leadership. Its not citizenship. Its not what we need today.

      Martin
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    • Author by ckinsey77 (January 08, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
         
      This is an absolute outrage. I can't even BELIEVE that Giuliani has the balls to sit there and say this. What's worse, STEPHANOPOULOS doesn't even bat an eye!! I've had it with these empty, loser talking heads. Moronic talking heads like STEPHANOPOULOS are equally as complicit as the dirtbag Giuliani in the stupification of our country.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 08, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
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      Giuliani falsely claims "[w]e had no domestic attacks under Bush"

      Yep we had no domestic terrorist attacks under Bush!

      [http://www.cslacker.com/images/file/mediums/epic_fail.jpg]
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    • Author by DickBates (January 08, 2010 7:34 pm ET)
         
      You people have flat lost your mind. Of the 5 incidents you list after 9/11, not one comes even remotely close to the kind of destruction and death that happened on that day.

      You know what the spirit of his comments were. Your just so ideologically blind that it doesn't matter.

      Wake up. Conservatives aren't the racist bigoted Klansmen you make them out to be. We believe in helping our fellow man we just know that the government is not the way to do it.
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    • Author by Rita (January 08, 2010 8:25 pm ET)
         
      Is there any Conservative with integrity?
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    • Author by pattyg77 (January 08, 2010 8:31 pm ET)
         
      I tried to start watching 'George Stepo' again even after he & Charlie Gipson(I never watched Gipson again after) were both so unfair & awful in the way both of them treated Obama during the Presidential Campaign debate with Hilary Clinton...But I am now "DONE" with good ole George for good! He has no creds anymore as far as I'm concerned---to "allow" "Rudy G." to LIE like this with no challenge whatsoever 'on the LIE' is the kind of reporting they do at Faux News & this is just horrible journalism....George, I'm ashamed at YOU!
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    • Author by rockrocks (January 08, 2010 8:33 pm ET)
         
      If you look back, these attacks have been going on going on for over 40 years. Sirhan Sirhan shooting RFK when Johnson was in the White House. Munich Olympics when Nixon was, Carter, Reagan, and Clinton too. It's our problem and shouldn't be exploited for political gain.
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    • Author by northerner (January 08, 2010 8:45 pm ET)
         
      Not only did 9/11 not happen on Dubya's watch, but Dubya did not fail to find bin Laden. As Frances Townsend famously said, "Well, I'm not sure --- it's a success that hasn't occurred yet. I don't know that I view that as a failure".

      http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3023391
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    • Author by John Paradox (January 09, 2010 1:21 am ET)
         
      Fools! Haven't you heard the findings from the Institute for the Advancement of Conservative Science?
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    • Author by egb (January 09, 2010 3:09 am ET)
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      The point is that 0 has three to his credit already in 12 months after a long period of no attacks. Disassembling the previous structure for combating terrorism encourages our enemies. While Gitmo may be a recruiting tool, the Detroit guy's work is a much better one. He now gets to go on public trial because 0 is too slow to understand the stakes. They plan to plea bargain with the Islamic terrorist to try to get information out of him. That is the most naive idea I've heard in years. Imagine letting the guy go if he tells all. 0's new policy is to follow each and every lead. I bet the enemy is ROFLOL. They are at this very moment sending thousands of moms and dads to CIA offices world wide reporting fictitious sons and daughters have gone to terrorism school.

      Could the War on Terrorism possibly be managed worse. We are in danger, "grave danger" ["is there any other kind"?], and now only God can help, because the clowns in Washington DC don't get it. I pray no Islamic terrorist is successful.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (January 09, 2010 4:07 am ET)
           
        "Could the War on Terrorism possibly be managed worse". I believe that it could.
        How have the past eight years calmed the WAR ON TERROR? The 3 for O as you mentioned, after a long period of no attacks is not quite accurate...but according to the Right, they only use attacks which they feel are "TERROR ATTACKS" and throw aside the others due to partisan politics..see Dick Cheney.
        Your suggestion of "IMAGINE letting the guy go if he tells all" is a ridiculous statement. It would be as stupid as me saying that "I know that Saddam Hussien has WMD's". And for those on the right to suggest that torture, sorry, but I am using the correct terminology, has proven nothing in getting info. We do know for a fact that KSM lied to stop the torture.
        The blame game being sponsored by the right is only based on the WAR ON TERROR starting 1/20/2009.
        And the left is not permitted to recall the past eight years when the damage to the world was done. Nice game the right plays but the rules are changing.
        I do really like the "grave danger" routine. It was sooo grave that Bush/Cheney decided to leave everything for the next guy.
        Personally, I am looking for the person who will sign the surrender papers when we defeat the enemy during this WAR ON TERROR. Will the representative be from the country of TERRORISTAN.
        Cut the crap..you probably sleep well at night. Or are you willing to go fight those terrorists in their backyard???
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 09, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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        We are in danger, "grave danger

        Another nutjob bedwetter with no faith in his government nor his fellow man. Must suck to be you.
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      • Author by John Paradox (January 09, 2010 2:22 pm ET)
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        We are in danger, "grave danger"

        [http://home.silverstar.com/~graben/images/lost-in-space.jpg]
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      • Author by Brian in FL (January 10, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
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        I love how people like yourself ignore the stated goal of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden.

        Bin Laden stated his goal was to launch a large attack that would lead to such an overwhelming response from the USA that they would bankrupt their country and remove many of their freedoms. It was a way to destroy us from within. They also stated that was the exact same way the mujahadeen forces defeated the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and led to the total economic collapse of the Soviet empire.

        You irrational chicken little's are doing exactly what Bin Laden wants you to do. You are playing right into his hands. You are too filled with idiotic anti-terror political slogans to see it.

        Also, to claim we were not hit by a terror attack post 9-11 is a complete distortion of history. It shows how completely naive you are on this topic, and how you simply believe whatever right-wing talking points you are fed.
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    • Author by SwissMiss (January 09, 2010 4:09 am ET)
         
      Forget 1984, this is Animal Farm. Just insert a "no" and change history. And vain tv entertainers believe you, despite 6 terrorist attacks (perhaps dc snipers should be counted more than once since they made several separate attacks). Guiliani, Matalin, Perino are elite rich pigs who walk on their hind hoofs and Stephanopoulos has gone Hollywood and joined them in thinking they are above the masses and not living in reality, indeed, happy to change it. Why isn't this all over the print newspapers?!
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    • Author by philipson48972 (January 09, 2010 9:11 am ET)
         
      Whyd didn't Stephanopolous sit up in his chair aghast? Great interview, George.
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