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Conservative media dubiously compare Reid's controversial comments to Lott's support of segregationist Thurmond

January 11, 2010 1:01 pm ET — 110 Comments

Responding to Sen. Harry Reid's recently reported controversial comments about President Obama, numerous conservative media figures have accused Democrats of having a "double standard" regarding racially insensitive remarks made by Republicans, specifically citing the outrage over former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott's past comments in support of Strom Thurmond's 1948 segregationist presidential campaign. But others -- including NPR's Cokie Roberts, Rev. Al Sharpton, and NAACP's Hilary Shelton -- have argued that the two comments are not comparable, because Reid was praising an African-American's advancement, whereas Lott was expressing support for a segregationist.

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2008: Reid reportedly said that he "believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate" like Obama who is "a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect.' " In their book on the 2008 election, John Heilemann and Mark Halperin reported that Reid was enthusiastic about then-Sen. Obama's potential candidacy to challenge then-Sen. Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination. Heilemann and Halperin reported that Reid's "encouragement of Obama was unequivocal. He was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' as he later put it privately." From Heilemann's and Halperin's Game Change:

Years later, Reid would claim that he was steadfastly neutral in the 2008 race; that he never chose sides between Barack and Hillary; that all he did was tell Obama that he "could be president," that "the stars could align for him." But at the time, in truth, his encouragement of Obama was unequivocal. He was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a "light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one," as he later put it privately.

Reid was convinced, in fact, that Obama's race would help him more than it hurt him in a bid for the Democratic nomination. (pages 35-36)

2002: Lott declared that the U.S. "wouldn't have had all these problems" if Thurmond's segregationist presidency campaign had been successful. In 2002, then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) reportedly said of Strom Thurmond's 1948 presidential campaign -- which Thurmond conducted on a segregationist platform: "I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had of followed our lead we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either." Lott resigned his leadership in 2002 following the comment, but Republicans elected him as Senate minority whip in 2006.

Steve Doocy: "It all comes down to this -- there's a double standard. Double standards exist." On the January 11 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade stated that "everyone is pointing back to Trent Lott in 2002 when he made those comments" and noted that several Democrats --including Reid, Obama, and Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) -- had called for Lott to step aside at the time. Later, co-host Steve Doocy asserted: "It all comes down to this: There's a double standard. Double standards exist. The same people who accepted Harry Reid's apology did not accept Trent Lott's apology. And email us right now. If a Republican made those comments, would they simply get away with an apology and everything would be accepted?"

Dana Perino: Democrats' reaction to Reid shows "that there is a clear double standard." Later in the show, after Doocy told Fox News contributor Dana Perino that Republicans are saying Reid should "get in trouble for this, because Trent Lott got in trouble for it and had to step down from his leadership role," Perino said, "What this shows is that there is a clear double standard. I wish there weren't double standards in the world, but there are, and I think it's instructive just for us to all be able to say one exists, and this is what it is. I do expect Republicans to try to push -- because, if you think back to Senator Lott's days, most people did not accept his apology on the Democratic side, with the groups. And then they wanted to ask him, 'OK, well fine, you apologized. But what did you mean by that?' And I think that is a fair question to ask Senator Reid as well."

Gretchen Carlson asked Perino if Democrats' calls for Lott's resignation could "come back to bite" them. Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson also brought up Landrieu's 2002 statement that "if a Democratic leader had said such a thing, they would not be able to keep their position." Carlson said she "hadn't seen any comments from Landrieu now in 2010" and asked Perino whether those "comments come back to bite some of these politicians who at one point, when it was not their party under attack, they thought it was not a good idea." Perino said it "further erodes the credibility and trust that the American people have in Congress as a whole" and that "everybody can see now just how blatant the double standard is."

Buchanan: "Sure, there's a double standard, and Trent Lott was presumed guilty because he's a Republican conservative from Mississippi." Discussing Obama's response to Reid's comments on the January 11 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Joe Scarborough said to MSNBC contributor Pat Buchanan that "a Republican would not survive saying such a thing," and Buchanan responded, "Sure, there's a double standard, and Trent Lott was presumed guilty because he's a Republican conservative from Mississippi."

BigGovernment.com: "Rigid orthodoxy has been coupled with blinding hypocrisy." In a post on BigGovernment.com, Lurita Doan wrote that "[r]igid orthodoxy has been coupled with blinding hypocrisy. When Senator Trent Lot made some inappropriate remarks on race, he was hounded from office. And yet, when Senator Harry Reid voiced narrow-minded, inappropriate racial stereotypes, the response from the very same posse, that pursued Trent Lott with pitchforks and glee, is now far more conciliatory." She added that "[t]he unmistakable message here is that there are two very different standards."

RedState asked why Reid gets "to keep his job" when Lott didn't. In a January 11 post on RedState.com, contributor "haystack" wrote that "Democrats were quick to tie the segregationist element of Thurmond around Lott's neck (rather than the State's rights element) and summarily had Lott tarred, feathered, effigied, and FIRED from his leadership position in the US Senate." He then asked, "How, then, does Harry Reid get to keep his job when he sees the quality of African Americans according to their skin tone and linguistic prowess?"

Hot Air's Morrissey notes Lott and asks, "Will this more explicit insult create any consequences for Reid?" In a January 9 post on HotAir.com, Ed Morrissey wrote, "When Trent Lott made a foolish statement at Strom Thurmond's birthday party about his presidential run on a segregation tick, the media outcry forced Lott to resign his leadership position. Will this more explicit insult create any consequences for Reid?" Morrissey also highlighted Obama's 2002 call for Lott to resign as "kindling on the flames of hypocrisy."

Media figures, NAACP, Sharpton say the two are not comparable

Al Sharpton: "What Harry Reid said is nowhere near comparable to saying you wish a segregationist had been the president." On Fox & Friends, Sharpton said Reid's words were "very poorly chosen" but that his comments are "nowhere near comparable" to Lott's because Lott "commended a Dixiecrat for running for office, who left the Democratic Party to run to fight integration." From the January 11 broadcast of Fox & Friends:

SHARPTON: I was offended by the reference of "negro dialect." I think, though, to say that what he said is anywhere near comparable as your last guest, to what Trent Lott said, is insulting to the intelligence of the American people. Trent Lott commended a Dixiecrat for running for office, who left the Democratic Party to run to fight integration. How do you compare Trent Lott saying that I wish this guy -- we'd had those days where blacks would have been at the back of the bus, because that's what the guy was running on -- to a guy saying why a black could be elected president.

Now, he said it in an insensitive way, but he's electing a black president, compared to a guy that was saying, "I wish this guy would have won that would have kept blacks in segregation." I mean, come on. This is outrageous.

DOOCY: Do you see -- do you see when people say, well, there's clearly a double standard, because all the Democrats just said, OK, we apologize -- you apologized --

SHARPTON: How could it be a double standard when you're comparing something that is an offensive, race-based analysis --

DOOCY: But remember, you just said you found his comment to be offensive.

SHARPTON: If you said to me, Reverend Sharpton, you are a word -- and used the racial term -- that's racist and offensive. If you said Reverend Sharpton, you've been overweight, I would be offended, but it's not the same thing. What Harry Reid said is nowhere near comparable to saying you wish a segregationist had been the president. In fact, he was saying the opposite. He was talking about why a black could be the president.

Jonathan Capehart: People making Reid-Lott comparisons are "getting it all wrong." On MSNBC's Way too Early, Washington Post editorial writer Jonathan Capehart similarly argued that people comparing Reid's comments to Lott's are "getting it all wrong. Strom Thurmond was a segregationist candidate. Senator Lott at the time said -- was seen whispering that we wouldn't have had all these problems if Strom Thurmond had won that presidential election. That has all sorts of negative implications for the country, and particularly for African-Americans. So, you know, Harry Reid is guilty of stupid language, of insensitive language, and actually ignorant language, but for him to have to resign over this, I think, goes way too far."

Cokie Roberts said Reid's comments "very different" from Lott's. On the January 11 edition of NPR's Fresh Air, senior news analyst Cokie Roberts said, despite "Republicans comparing [Reid's comments] to remarks that then-Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott made," the comments were "very different" because Lott's comments were "made about how the world might have been better if Strom Thurmond, a segregationist at the time, had been elected president."

New York Times quoted Harvard Law professor Guinier saying comments are "not in the least bit comparable." In a January 11 article, The New York Times quoted Lani Guinier, "the Harvard Law School professor whose nomination as assistant attorney general for civil rights in 1993 was pummeled by conservative groups and eventually withdrawn by President Bill Clinton," as saying the comments are "not in the least bit comparable." From the article:

Mr. Lott's remarks, Ms. Guinier said, seemed to be expressing nostalgia for the segregationist platform of Mr. Thurmond's 1948 presidential campaign, while Mr. Reid comments seemed to be addressing "an unfortunate truth about the present." That truth, she said, is that Mr. Obama would have had a more difficult time getting elected if his skin were darker and if he spoke in a dialect more identifiable as "black."

NAACP's Shelton: "Lott was actually supporting and embracing the agenda of Strom Thurmond, which was a segregation agenda." On the January 11 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, NAACP Washington bureau director Hilary Shelton said Lott's and Reid's comments are not the same because "Lott was actually supporting and embracing the agenda of Strom Thurmond, which was a segregationist agenda as he ran for president as a Dixiecrat. For him to hold those up and say, 'I wish I'd been able to support him, if he had become president our country will be a better place on a race relations issue,' raises some major concerns. Harry Reid, on the other hand, is someone that has fought for racial inclusion. He's fought for fairness, and he's fought for democracy for all Americans, regardless of race, gender, or ethnicity -- to the point he's even put his political career on the line to take some very courageous positions."

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    • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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      Liberal media watchdog websites out to soften or distract from Reid's idiotic remarks by criticizing those who are trying to compare them to Lott's. Much easier than have to deal with them directly.
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      • Author by wzwriter (January 11, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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        Right ON showing once more that he's talking out of his a$$.
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (January 11, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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          From what I've read so far,
          It appears those trying to equate Harry Reid's words with Trent Lott's seem to be afraid to actually say what Trent Lott said.

          I guess if people know what Lott actually said, it doesn't help their argument. This is about par for the Fixed News course.
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          • Author by mari2jj (January 12, 2010 12:06 am ET)
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            You are so right. But worst of all for a moderate Republican like me, I must say that there is absolutely no comparison between the totally racist mumbo jumbo Lott spewed and the factually correct statement that Reid made so disingenuously. I guess my party forgets the shame we went through when Lott declared we would be so much better off if only Strom Thurman, the segregationist would have been elected. The comment of Reid about the facts that Obama's chances were good because he was light skinned and well spoken while true were nevertheless uncalled for. But they were factual and not racist. The racist thing about the comment is the history of my own party that made it a factual statement.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 12, 2010 8:39 am ET)
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              The racist thing about the comment is the history of my own party that made it a factual statement.


              What history would that be? The part where your party supported the civil rights rights movement and advancement of people of color? Maybe it was the part where your party was on the side of people who wanted and succeeded in getting people of color out of bondage?

              Is it that history?
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              • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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                People who NOW are Democrats are of the same political philosophy as those people who supported the civil rights movement.

                It doesn't matter that the label-definitions have changed since then, you fool!
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              • Author by spittinghotfireonrepukes (January 12, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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                Perhaps you should revisit your history book. The Republican party of today no longer is the Party of Lincoln. It's a good old boys party for the most part. That Republican party you're speaking of swims with the fishes. To try and compare the two statements is an insult to all artional people on the planet.

                As a black man, when I heard what he said, I didn't get up in arms about it. He was one of the first to endorse Obama, and his statement unfortunately rings true in this country we love so dearly. Lott on the other hand was endorsing a time when blacks had to sit in the balcony at movie theaters. Had to give up there seat on a bus when a white person was aboard. When dogs, water hoses and lynching were the norm in the southern region of our country.

                Please don't come on here and insult our intelect with this BS...it just shows how ignorant you really are. If you really want to see just how backwards and racist the Republican party is look no farther then your talking head...Michael Steele. He was elected as an attempt to show the party is opened to blacks, as long as they stay in their place..ie Rush to Steele, the RNC to Steele I could go on and on.

                One thing is true about History...it's HIS story!!!
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      • Author by Leftym0m79 (January 11, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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        Comparing Reid's comments to Lott's is like comparing apples and oranges, while they both grow on trees and have seeds that's about where the similarities end.
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        • Author by riverdog (January 11, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
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          nope, you all are very dishonest with yourselves if you don't think if a repub. said it you would be freakin' out. hypocritical and dishonest. personally i don't think either lotts or reids are that bad but with pc nonsense you all love you have to be fair to both sides.
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          • Author by wzwriter (January 11, 2010 5:41 pm ET)
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            Craig - how do you manage to type on a keyboard that's covered with drool????
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          • Author by Kikabi (January 11, 2010 11:38 pm ET)
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            It all depends on which Republican and the context. If the Republican has an excellent record on the pertinent issues - which Reid has - then no, the Left would not be "freakin' out." If the Republican has a lousy record, like Lott's, then yes, they likely would be.

            That's why this is not an issue of double standards.
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        • Author by mari2jj (January 12, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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          You said it so much more succinctly and in shorter words than i could. You hit the nail right on the head!!!!!
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (January 11, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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        Liberal media watchdog websites out to soften or distract from Reid's idiotic remarks by criticizing those who are trying to compare them to Lott's. Much easier than have to deal with them directly. -right ON
        Indeed, particularly since Reid is not a member of the media.
        Columnist and blogger J. Foser did call Reid's remarks racially insensitive, though. That is direct.
        So, since you wingnuts need things spelled out for you: You fail. Twice. Media watchdogs are under obligation to critique the media response to a senator's comments, but not to critique the comments themselves. Even so, a prominent writer for this website did deal directly with Reid's comments.

        Feel free to actually pitch me one instead of just putting it on the tee, wingnuts.
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      • Author by Max Credits (January 11, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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        I thought you did not engage in race baiting gotcha games?
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      • Author by null1fy (January 11, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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        Liberalism is a mental disorder. You would have better luck trying to persuade a rabid dog not to bite you than to engage these people. They don't even realize that self identified conservatives are double the number of self identified liberals and that they are the out-of-mainstream freaks, not you. As if FOX's ratings wasn't evidence enough of that already.
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        • Author by Max Credits (January 11, 2010 2:54 pm ET)
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          Hilarious. Fox News' "ratings" trumps America's 2008 (and 2006) elections. Priceless.
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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          Sorry, but we do know about the polling results you cite.

          What we also know, that you seem to be unaware of, is that those very same people, if asked what they thought about specific initiatives, would most often support the liberal side of things. People often call themselves conservative when they're actually liberal.

          The out of the mainstream freaks are tea party adherents and supporters. Very few people actually support the things they support, and most of those people are breeds that are dying off, like bigots and racists.
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          • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 10:12 pm ET)
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            You might want to brush up on the polling results then. Here is where you can start.

            http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

            But I am not at all surprised that you didn't know the facts, you rarely do. Just like most Obama supporters.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8&feature=related
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            • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 11:59 pm ET)
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              Wow, thanks for showing your lack of reading comprehension once again. I said "we do know about the polling results you cite." Not sure how you missed that.

              But there are other results that show exactly what I said they show.
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        • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
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          I don't believe liberalism is a mental disorder, but it would seem that those (first two) that most feel the sting of your accusation, or maybe it hit a nerve of theirs, would respond to you first. I guess if you look above mine you will see who they are. Curious, I guess. :)
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          • Author by wookie (January 11, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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            It gets on our nerves but no, it doesn't define anything about liberalism. Its the silly cheerleading conservatives have been using for years to avoid real debate and simply declare themselves winners.
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          • Author by Max Credits (January 11, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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            Come on, what's your secrete? How are you always able to reply to posts so cool, calm and collected. Everyone else is visibly shaken and all stingy and twitchy about it, but not you, you're like a young and helmet-less Gary Busey. How do you do it?
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            • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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              Well, I would tell you, but then it wouldn't be a secret, now would it? Besides, I enjoy your uncool replies so much that I would never want my secret to change your them.
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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            Yeah, somehow us refuting a post by an ignorant person equates to us feeling the sting of a baseless accusation?

            Actually, us refuting the post would show that there was NO sting whatsoever to the accusation!

            But your personal attack on Victor and I is clear evidence that YOU feel the sting of OUR posts, and that OUR posts sting YOU!

            Thanks for exposing your tender underbelly for us to sting on a regular basis. You're always good for a laugh!
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          • Author by wzwriter (January 11, 2010 5:44 pm ET)
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            I don't believe liberalism is a mental disorder...

            That's becsuse your conservatism is a severe mental disorder. :-)
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        • Author by edgewaterprog (January 12, 2010 7:42 am ET)
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          That is a rediculous statement unknown. You have been listening to Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich too much.

          We all benefit directly from Liberalism in this country. From Liberalism that inspired our founding documents to the Liberalism that lead people to fight to free the slaves and extend civil rights to all Americans.
          Conservativism on the other hand would have us still under the contol of the British, maintain the slave trade and slavery, and deny the vote to everyone who was not a land-owning white male.

          Of course, I am not surprised that there are people out there like you who are confused by this. The right wing media and "conservative" politicians would like you to believe that the forces of stagnation and the status quo are somehow also liberal and creative.

          If you knew you what you were talking about, you would criticize the "statist" end of the left-wing (which compares to the "statist" end of the right-wing.
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          • Author by null1fy (January 12, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
               
            Liberalism was originally the belief in the importance of individual freedom. Now they take away your guns and still call themselves liberals. Which is why it is a mental disorder.

            I apologize if you are one of the minority who is confused by the fact that the labels have changed over the years.

            p.s. I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich.
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            • Author by edgewaterprog (January 12, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
                 
              Liberalism in most places in the world is still stands for individual freedom. I am not confused by a "change" in labels. That change was mostly instigated by the conservatives who are hiding from all of their anti-liberty/anti-liberal positions (except for guns, of course).

              Liberal = Liberty

              I believe in the right to bare arms. Most liberals and Democrats do. It is an invented wedge issue.
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2010 8:02 pm ET)
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        Actually I just polled 50 black people - some friends since my high school days in Washington and only 4 thought that Reid was insulting Obama when he made that comment. While they all agreed that to a bigot it would sound bigoted because that is their mind set, but to them, they are comfortable with the difference in dialects and ways of speaking. they make no racial slur out of Reid's comments but mostly, they cited Reid's long years of supporting all minority groups and say this bruhaha is nonsense. They further stated that only a bigot like Rush would stoop to this level. No comparison between Reid's statement of a compliment and Lott's totally racist comments. And further, that Rush does not see that shows them how biased he truly is. Has nothing to do with Reid.
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    • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 11, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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      I would hope my bona fides are sufficient at this point to say this: Reid was wrong. I'm not going to get into a discussion about LEVELS of wrong, but he was wrong. The comment he made may have been praising, but the way it is worded is at best condescending ("Negro dialect"?). When it comes to matters like this, I prefer to err on the side of Caesar's wife, if you will. If you want to have any respect for truth and logic, Senator Reid should be treated in the same way you would have treated Senator Lott, or you do treat Michael "Honest Injun" Steele.
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      • Author by ukobserver (January 11, 2010 1:47 pm ET)
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        Sorry, but l don't agree.

        There is no way you can treat them equally because, as stupid and insensitive the use of language from Reid was, it doesn't compare to saying that the US would have been in a better place if someone running on the platform that black people should remain on the back of buses, eat in seperate restaurants and drink from seperate water fountians.

        It's pretty pathetic to try to make a comparison really.

        As for Mr Step-and-Fetch himself Michael Steele, his own racist comment hasn't seen a call for his removal so why is he bothering to flap his gums on this?


        I'm Sorry!!!!!


        It's Michael Steele, l should be surprised by anything!!!
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        • Author by WildcatProgressive (January 11, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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          And I am not comparing them. My "Caesar's wife" point is that you have to be above reproach (like Caesar's wife) in matters like this, if for no other reason than to do otherwise gives your opponents a chance to do what's being done here.
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          • Author by edgewaterprog (January 12, 2010 7:52 am ET)
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            Very true WILDCAT they should be above reproach but in all the years that Reid has been in politics, I am sure he has said indelicate or completely wrong things on and off the record.

            The same can be said about Trent Lott....

            The difference is that Reid has been on the side of civil rights for his political career and Lott admits in his statement that he is an unrepentant segregationist. If Lott's career in politics reflected a more progressive view of civil rights, his comments would have been taken as the joke they were probably meant to be.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 12, 2010 8:49 am ET)
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          So you compare Reid and Lott and basically support that what Reid did was OK. If I'm off base let me know...

          Then you come out and slap Mr. Steele with a racist slur (As for Mr Step-and-Fetch himself Michael Steele). Nice. You closet racists never cease to amaze. Just get in line with Reid. How many more will come out of the woodwork?
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    • Author by pilotx (January 11, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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      I agree that Sen. Reid's comments were wrong and insensitive but they are not at all similar to Lott's. He should give the country an apology and we should move on. The decision to step down was Lott's and Lott's alone, with a little help from his GOP comrads. Lott had to step down because of the GOP's image problem when it came (still there) to diversity. Steele shouldn't have a say because he has his own apologizing to do. This will blow over in a few days and we can get back to doing the people's business or would we rather carp about this?
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (January 11, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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        would we rather carp about this?
        Of course we would! "We" being the national media in this case.
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      • Author by Appleboy (January 11, 2010 2:42 pm ET)
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        How were Reids' comments wrong? People who criticize Reid must do a better job in explaining why his comments were so terrible. Was it the use of the archaic "Negro"? Perhaps not the best choice of words, although they do appear on the U.S concensus. Unfortunately, we live in a country that is probably not ready to vote for an African-American with dark skin and who speaks with a black dialect. I think what Reid said was correct, but unfortunately were not ready to discuss such realities.
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        • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 2:46 pm ET)
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          Fine, then. So why is Reid rushing to apologize for it and liberals are falling all over themselves trying to soften and distract from it? Another example of say what you mean and then try and wiggle away from it when the fallout begins.
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          • Author by Appleboy (January 11, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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            He apologized because it was the politically correct thing for him to do.

            Liberals shouldn't be apologizing for his comments. Liberals tend to be dumb when comes to fighting back on these pseudo scandals.

            I answered your questions. Now answer mine. Where was Reid wrong in his comments (except for the archaic "Negro dialect").
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            • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
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              I didn't say they were wrong, I said they were stupid. A dumb thing for him to say.
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              • Author by Appleboy (January 11, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
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                Something that is true can never be stupid, unless humans are involved ;)

                It was only stupid because he should have known we as a people are stupid and could not handle such a truism.
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                • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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                  Well if you think it was smart, ask Reid if he agrees.
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                  • Author by Appleboy (January 11, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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                    Yeah, let's NOT attack Reid for saying something that wasn't true, but instead attack him for saying something truthful that we as a country cannot handle. So yes, you are correct. Reid should have known that we morons couldn't handle hearing a truism about our country. We morons should be proud of Reid being wrong.
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
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            It's not "another example of say what you mean and then try and wiggle away from it when the fallout begins." Harry Reid hasn't tried, to wiggle away from what he said at all. And no one else had tried to wiggle away either. All we've done is accurately describe what he said and accurately compared it to what others have said to show the hypocrisy of the right.

            "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments," Reid said in a statement released after the excerpts were reported on the Web site of The Atlantic.

            We've all been saying that it as a poor choice of words. We'll all been saying that it was racially-insenstive, and racially-inappropriate. Suggesting that we're trying to wiggle away from it is so like your bogus arguments typically are, totally wrong.

            If your side wasn't making it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is, we wouldn't be successfully countering that argument! We aren't trying to soften it any more than it deserves to be 'softened'. It's your side that's trying to make it into something worse than it is, and so when we discuss comments that rightwingers have made, we're doing it so that it's put in its proper context, not to distract.

            You're dishonest, as per usual.
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            • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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              "We aren't trying to soften it any more than it deserves to be 'softened'"

              Best Sue-ism of the day!
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            • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
                 
              Obama is out there saying that it was an "inarticulate" comment. That's all. It's not being 'softened' any more than it deserved to be 'softened'. It's your side that's trying to artificially and dishonestly portray it that my side is fighting against, that Obama is fighting against. We're 'softening' it against your side's disingenious depiction. As we should be doing. Facts aren't owned by our side, but your side sure acts as though we won't share them with you!
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              • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
                   
                Sorry, I meant to say that Obama called it an "inartful" comment, not an inarticulate one. My fingers worked faster than my brain and completed the word that I'm more accustomed to typing.
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          • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2010 8:12 pm ET)
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            Actually he apologized in case he hurt Obama's or some blacks feelings. That is the sensible thing to do. You cannot have it both ways. If you bad mouth him about the comment, then accept his apology. Have you never said anything that came out totally wrong. I let my black friends decide for themselves what they consider to be an insult and the vast majority of them thought this was a silly thing for Rush to get so worked up about. I mean, many have experienced life threatening behavior and most have experienced real racist, obnoxious rhetoric and this statement did not meet the Trent Lott level nor their idea of hateful racism.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (January 11, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
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          Quite right. Reid committed a classic Washington gaffe, defined by Michael Kinsley as inadvertantly speaking the truth. It's not a pleasant truth, and it doesn't reflect well on this country, but it is the truth. It may have been "idiotic" to say it and assume that it would not be repeated, but I challenge anyone to prove that the substance was either racist or idiotic.
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    • Author by lmn36us (January 11, 2010 2:20 pm ET)
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      its a racist statement on its own merits - good try though
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      • Author by Conchobhar (January 11, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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        Your logic being?
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      • Author by Appleboy (January 11, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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        Yes, please tell us why it was racist.
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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          This is another example of their side confusing "racist" comments from "racial" comments.
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          • Author by fantagor (January 11, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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            I'll one better. What Reid said was truth in all its ugliness. A blacker, less well-spoken Obama isn't going to get elected president, not in this country.

            But a white guy can be as stupid as mentally worthless as George Bush and get elected TWICE.

            Randy
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            • Author by fantagor (January 11, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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              DO one better...

              stupid AND mentally...

              (Note to self: keep my hands of the preview's word puree setting.)

              Randy
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 11, 2010 11:21 pm ET)
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          If what Reid said wasn't racist then why did he apologize for it?
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 12:04 am ET)
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            Because it was racially insensitive and inappropriate.

            But dunces like you and your ilk can't seem to understand that there's a difference between "racial" comments and "racist" comments.

            No one has said that his comments were not problematic, but they aren't the same as the comments that Trent Lott said.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 12, 2010 8:09 pm ET)
                 
              Correction: There is a difference between racial comments and racist comments if you are a liberal. If you are a conservative than racial comments mean you are a racist. There's no defending that either.
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          • Author by mari2jj (January 12, 2010 12:21 am ET)
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            Because he is a gentleman and he does not like to hurt people's feelings and sad to say, my party tried very hard to nail Reid as a racist. AND, that is called projection to be sure.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 12, 2010 8:08 pm ET)
                 
              ROFL. It's always projection with some people. People on this site are funny.
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    • Author by proudconservative (January 11, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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      I wonder if the conservative media will let loose on this gem.....

      [A]s Hillary bungled Caroline, Bill’s handling of Ted was even worse. The day after Iowa, he phoned Kennedy and pressed for an endorsement, making the case for his wife. But Bill then went on, belittling Obama in a manner that deeply offended Kennedy. Recounting the conversation later to a friend, Teddy fumed that Clinton had said, A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.



      Let Reid stay, I can only imagine how his face would make the case of how racism-free the left is.

      Speaking truth to/about progressives with a shout out to Senator Byrd, who if he had only kept his day job, would have created a world that only harry reid would love, unless of course they had problems with dialect.

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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 12, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
           
        I'm curious. Why is that racist? The getting coffee part is racist to you? It sounded more to me like he was referring to Obama's inexperience. No?
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      • Author by Ruby (January 12, 2010 5:25 pm ET)
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        An anonymous source who somehow knows (from Kennedy? from a friend of a friend of Kennedy? Halperin conveniently fails to inform us) that Kennedy once had a conversation in which Clinton said something along those lines.

        And I agree with mikehuck, I don't know why anybody would assume that that was a crack at Obama's skin color, it's an obvious jab at his age/experience.
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    • Author by Jim Rockford (January 11, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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      A main meme of the repubs is once again an unproveable assertion. "If a repub had said this he'd be outta there." Only if it was someone with a poor record on race and of already questionable views on race. Even then they'd probably get through it.

      The meme that this is comparable to what Trent Lott did is absurd. Interestingly, Bob Schieffer fell for it hook line and sinker on FTN yesterday and RAN with it like a lunatic. That show yesterday was a festival of far right talking points! Here's a clip I posted on youtube yesterday:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caETFgmngeM

      Why is it that repubs arguments seem to always be lies, distortions, unproveable assertions, false equivalencies, etc.
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    • Author by rjackson1500@yahoo.com (January 11, 2010 3:18 pm ET)
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      the bottom line is this reid was right in what he said and the fact is all republicans are racist... what republicklans can not stand is that we as black people see the g.o.p for what it is...and that is a party that believes in white nationalism ..and the tea bagging movement is a white pride movement
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      • Author by riverdog (January 11, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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        wow, all republicans are racists? what if i voted for a republican once am i just a little racist? stereotyping is ok now?
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        • Author by mescal (January 11, 2010 11:37 pm ET)
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          To paraphrase Bill Mahr, while not all Republicans are racist, most racists are Republicans.
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    • Author by fantagor (January 11, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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      Harry Reid told an ugly truth: light skin and speaking clear English are both pluses for Obama. You can't look and speak like Bernie Mac and get elected in America. And the word Negro is on the Census, so get over it, GOP.

      In fact, right wing personalities on the radio said as much, and in less elegant tems. Limbaugh for one couldn't stop talking about Obama's skin color. First Obama's too light then he's too dark. He's a "Halfrican" and so on.

      Funny how Rush's flagrant racism is given a pass, but Reid's comments are untenable to the GOP, who only discover political correctness when it suits their purposes.

      Randy
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    • Author by Reinhard (January 11, 2010 4:37 pm ET)
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      There is no comparing Lott's remarks to Reids. Reid was right.Lott was wrong.
      Funny thing is, Reid was referring to people like Lott and Thurmond when he made his remarks.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (January 11, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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      Instead of compairing the two statements, I would like to know why liberals can say all sorts of racist statements and it is either defended or excused.
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      • Author by Reinhard (January 11, 2010 4:46 pm ET)
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        What did Reid say that was "racist"?
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        • Author by mescal (January 11, 2010 11:42 pm ET)
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          Absolutely nothing. Seahawks was just mindlessly parroting a baseless wingnut talking point. You'll notice that he couldn't provide a single example to back up his smear.
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      • Author by southerngal (January 11, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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        Some would say it has to do with their central approach to governing and how that has earned them the right. After all, the fine art of patronization has its rewards.
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2010 8:24 pm ET)
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        While Reid's statement may be inept, it is factual and NOT stereotypical. Of course we could argue on and on about this but my review with many black people found that they understood perfectly what Reid was saying and many returned my email survey with a comment, "Right on, Mr. Reid". It is most helpful to get the opinions of blacks before a bunch of whites decide what was a racist comment about blacks. Long ago, when i did the same with the Trent Lott remark, the results were exactly opposite. Most felt Lott not only made a racist statement but he had also worked his entire lifetime to keep segregation and to cover up racial crimes. No contest in the minds of blacks as far as the words of these two politicians go. Sorry Rush but the people who were supposedly insulted totally disagree with you.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 12, 2010 9:04 am ET)
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          I wonder if you'd conduct a poll on this little gem?

          Is Hillary light skinned and "black dialect" enough?
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 13, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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            I am not sure what you are getting at, T-Bone. But, please enlighten us again as to why you are the staunch defender of whites only private clubs.
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 11, 2010 11:28 pm ET)
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        No liberal can say a racist comment and get away with it. Reid didn't make a racist comment here, so your entire point is a strawman argument.
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    • Author by theIncompleteProcess (January 11, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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      As one put it.... When Pat Buchanan is the reasonable one, there is something wrong....

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/11/823886/-When-Pat-Buchanan-Makes-Since-on-Race
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    • Author by obamacheerleader (January 11, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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      The double standard lives and breathes in the liberal circles. Did you libs forget about Don Imus? You libs on this web site where calling for his head on a stick. C'mon, at least be constistant. I don't remember anyone on this site sticking up for Imus? I love it, you libs are saying,"oh, it's not THAT racist" or "it's only a little racist".
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    • Author by j238 (January 11, 2010 10:43 pm ET)
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      KEY DIFFERENCE:

      Trent Lott had a consistent history of racist rhetoric.

      Harry Reid does not.
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    • Author by MagCynic (January 11, 2010 11:18 pm ET)
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      This is hilarious watching those on the left twist and turn in an attempt to defend the double standard.
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      • Author by blurider (January 11, 2010 11:58 pm ET)
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        Craig,

        If you don't see the obvious differences between the tone and the substance of those two remarks - you're a moron.

        If you do see the differences and still make these inane remarks - you're a moron.

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      • Author by mescal (January 12, 2010 12:02 am ET)
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        And what 'double standard' would that be? Trent Lott made a clearly racist remark IN SUPPORT of segregationist policies. Harry Reid, on the other hand, made a remark that NOTED THE EXISTENCE OF RACISM IN AMERICA, and how Obama possessed certain physical and cultural traits that allowed him to come in just under the wire of electoral acceptability.

        You are practicing the logical fallacy of a false equivalency. While both remarks may indeed deal with race, their basic assumptions and ultimate points are at complete odds with one another. There is, therefor, no double standard to be defended.
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 12, 2010 8:26 am ET)
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          Trent Lott technically didn't even bring up race. He could've easily been referring to Strom's political ideas that would have avoided the problems the country faced.

          Harry Reid's comment on the other hand brings up race directly. I don't know the context of Reid's remarks so he could've been making two points. First, to counter the historical nature that he would be our first black President. How could he possibly be the first black President if he's "light-skinned" and spoke no "negro dialect?" In other words he might as well have be a white guy. Second, he could've meant it as a good thing. As some others pointed out, there's no way Obama would've been elected if he talked and looked like Bernie Mac.

          In either context it is clearly racial. Lott's remarks, on the other hand, are not clearly racial.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (January 12, 2010 11:36 am ET)
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            Making a racial comment is not the same as racism. So Lott was defending Strom Thurmonds political ideas. Ok, I'll be your Huckleberry. What were those ideas?

            The hyprocrisy of comparing Reids comments to Lott's is blinding, Trent Lott said :

            "..."I want to say this about my state: when Strom Thurmond ran for President, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

            This is an excerpt I gathered from the Daily Show of a speech Strom Thurmond gave in 1948 as he ran for president on the segregationist ticket:

            "What I want to tell you...Ladies and gentlemen...that there's not enough troops in the Army...to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the N---er race into our theaters,into our swimming pools,into our homes and into our churches."----Strom Thurmond

            So Lott was defending a racist that supported apartheid in this country but was not speaking directly about race. Yea, and my name is boo-boo-the fool. That kind of thinking obviously works in wing-nut-land but excuse me while I LOL. You republicans are pathetic.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 12, 2010 8:21 pm ET)
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              I still fail to see where Lott said anything racist at all. How do I know if Lott was referring to Thurmond's political ideas? I don't. Nor so I care. I was playing the devil's advocate. I can only go by the words they speak, not by what I think they meant.

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              • Author by mescal (January 13, 2010 3:21 am ET)
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                You know very well what Lott was referring to. Congero gave you the exact quote, and it unquestionably WAS about Thurmond's racist political agenda as the Dixiecrat candidate for President. You are now squirming all over the freakin' screen in order to PRETEND not to understand what is more than apparent to anyone who can squeeze two brain cells together.

                Reid, conversely, made a statement that may have been RACIAL, in that it addressed the subject of race and electoral politics, but was by no means RACIST. Reid was one of earliest Beltway supporters of Obama's quest for the Whitehouse, and believed that he had the correct attributes necessary to become elected POTUS. Reid was simply recognizing the grave difficulties inherent in a black man trying to get elected to the nation's highest office. What Reid said was no more racist than someone saying that Jackie Robinson possessed the perfect combination of athleticism, intelligence, and mental discipline necessary to break Major League Baseballs color line.
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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            I explained this to you 12 hours ago, but you still don't get it? Thanks for demonstrating for all to see that you're not interested in a debate on the facts. Trent Lott brought up race. To claim otherwise is ludicrous on the face of it. But here's what I said before to explain to you why Reid apologized.

            Because it was racially insensitive and inappropriate.

            But dunces like you and your ilk can't seem to understand that there's a difference between "racial" comments and "racist" comments.

            No one has said that his comments were not problematic, but they aren't the same as the comments that Trent Lott said.
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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (January 12, 2010 2:00 am ET)
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      I'll probably get some thumbs down for this statement...

      While I do not really see Reid's comments as racist, but more politically incorrect, I also believed, at the time of Lott's statement, that it was not in support of segregationist policies, but just a platitude for an aging politician.

      Another instance of making mountains out of mole hills...
      --------------------------------------------
      The Midnight Review
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (January 12, 2010 3:48 am ET)
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        I did too. I was fairly surprised that Lott stepped down over it. Maybe it was all part of a sinister plot to one day accuse liberals of holding a double standard.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (January 12, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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          No it was because the whitehouse and other republicans wanted Bill Frist in. Lott had to much baggage.

          But as I noted in "A Confederacy of Dunces," Lott has been very clear in myriad other ways that he wasn't just whistling Dixie:

          Lott was a speaker in 1992 at an event of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a successor to the White Citizens' Councils of Jim Crow days. Among its offerings in seething racial hatred is a "Wanted" poster of Abraham Lincoln. Lott's also offered his rebel yell in the virulently neo-Confederate Southern Partisan, where in 1984 he called the Civil War "the war of aggression."

          http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/gop-whistling-dixie-on-lott-reid-comparison
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 12, 2010 4:19 pm ET)
           
        I agree completely. All Lott was doing was trying to say something nice to a 100 year old man while doing his political eulogy. He never should have been forced to step down.

        The truth is he was really being forced out by the far-right of G-Dub and Rove because they did not like the way Lott was known to attempt to bring Democrats aboard to carry legislation. He worked with Clinton. They wanted their boy, Frist, who did not give a damn about bipartisanship.
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    • Author by edgewaterprog (January 12, 2010 8:04 am ET)
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      This mountain-out-of-a-molehill is nothing more than the right wing attempting to try to undermine Reid while he is trying to negotiate the Healthcare compromise in Congress.
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    • Author by Reinhard (January 12, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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      Magcynic:
      "Trent Lott technically didn't even bring up race. He could've easily been referring to Strom's political ideas that would have avoided the problems the country faced. "

      Wow, that sure is some dandy mental gymnastics on display but there is one fatal error with your argument:

      Thurmond's "political ideas" were in fact based on the way he felt about the position of white people and black people in society. His views didn't favor the blacks. This is no secret.

      Your contention that because he didn't mention race his political views may or may not have been steeped in bigotry is absurd.

      Reinhard
      Support the war. Raise taxes!
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      • Author by spittinghotfireonrepukes (January 13, 2010 6:10 am ET)
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        "His views didn't favor the blacks. This is no secret."

        This statement is partially true...In public he was the Anti Black establishment candidate. Behind closed doors, he loved the same black women he hated so dearly in public.
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    • Author by TX (January 12, 2010 11:00 am ET)
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      If it came out that a leader in the Republican party made the comments that Reid said - regardless of the context it was stated -the left would be up in arms, all over the news, demanding resignations immediately, etc. But, because it's a Democrat that made the statements it's okay by them to get a pass. What a double standard!
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      • Author by Reinhard (January 12, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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        Alerted, your argument is flawed.
        I haven't heard a single person here, or anywhere for that matter,claim Reid's choice of words as anything less than stupid.But that doesn't make them bigoted.

        Conversely, RNC Chairman Steele used the phrase "honest Injun" on Fox News' Hannity Show. Is Steele a "racist"? I don't think so. He did however use a poor choice of words that invoke the sensitive issue of bigotry towards Native North Americans. Stupid. Yes. Racist, no. So by your assertion that a double standard exists, your model, " the left would be up in arms,all over the news,demanding resignations immediately,etc".
        I have yet to hear of any such uproar.
        Your hypothetical has been falsified.

        Reinhard
        Support the troops.Enlist today!
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        • Author by TX (January 12, 2010 5:21 pm ET)
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          Several months ago, the Left went crazy claiming racism when Rush Limbaugh tried to be part of a group of people bidding to purchase a NFL football team. The Left was falling over themselves about quotes that were made up and falsely attributed to him. You have to know what I was talking about, it was all over the news for days and days. Rush Limbaugh isn't even a politican. You don't think that had a GOP leader made the same statements as Reid, that the Left wouldn't be calling for instant resignation?

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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 12, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
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            Did Limbaugh resign from something? I believe he was kept out of a group that was bidding on the purchase of an NFL team. By the group itself. What do you and Rush have against the free market all of a sudden? Party over principles, right?
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          • Author by Reinhard (January 12, 2010 7:28 pm ET)
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            As I stated, RNC Chairman Steele recently made a statement that was in poor taste. They were comparable to Reids' in that regard. Yet no outcry from the left for Steele to resign. Would you agree Steele is a "GOP leader"? If so, where's the uproar? Could it be that you are wrong?

            I do recall when Limbaugh and a group of other investors sought to purchase the Rams. However your assertion that the left was falling all other themselves and attributing false quotes has been shown by MMFA and other uotlets, to be false. Limbaugh routinely makes bigoted comments. Any contention otherwise is pure nonsense.

            Reinhard
            Support the Troops. Enlist today!
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      • Author by congero6189599 (January 12, 2010 11:47 am ET)
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        ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Anything else!
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 12, 2010 4:14 pm ET)
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        Maybe, alerted. I would be interested to see what proof you have to back up your assertion. You did not really support your statement with much.

        I can say for sure that I would not be. Anyone who is familiar with my posts here can attest to the fact that I have actually defended Lott over the silly remarks he made trying to be supportive of a 100 year old man in what amounted to his political eulogy. To pretend like Lott needed to go away and never be heard from again is ludicrous. It is the worst part of the political correctness that permeates our culture today. It is the game of political gotcha. The real reason Lott lost his power is because the far-right of G-Dub did not appreciate Lott and his statesmanship. Lott actually worked with Democrats in his day during the Clinton years.

        Is what Reid said racist? I do not believe so. Is it awkward? Yes. I have had 3 different people work for me over the years that were much older than me that used the terms "colored" and "Negro" to describe black people. Two of them were older white women and one of them was an older black man. They all used the terms easily and they made me flinch each and every time. However, I do think these terms are more out-of-date than racist. I don't think the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund has anything against black people in general. It is just from a different time.

        I also have to say that I have had someone tell me they were offended that I use the term black to describe African-Americans. Perhaps this term is also becoming outdated. However, I grew up in a neighborhood that was almost completely black and all of the guys I grew up with were black and that is the term we always used and the term I am comfortable with. I certainly do not mean anything racist by it.
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