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Hypocrisy: Beck says progressives resort to name-calling, shouting, and accusations of racism

January 25, 2010 9:38 am ET — 126 Comments

During an event for their Bold Fresh Tour, portions of which aired during the January 25 edition of Fox & Friends, Bill O'Reilly asked Glenn Beck why progressives "want to hurt us," and Beck replied: "If you can't win the argument, you have to shout them down, you have to call them racist, you have to call them names. You have to do whatever it is you have to do." In fact, Beck himself has a history of calling people, including President Obama, "racist," shouting at those who disagree with him, and resorting to calling progressives names like "evil," socialists, communists, and Marxists.

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Beck says those "against" him "can't win the argument," so they resort to shouting, race-baiting, name-calling

From the Bold Fresh Tour, aired on the January 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

O'REILLY: Why do you think there's a level of hatred against you and against me that there is? I mean, look, I was kidding about Bill Maher before. I don't hate Bill Maher. I like --

BECK: I don't either.

O'REILLY: I mean, he's not my kind of guy, but I don't want to hurt him. I don't, you know -- I'll make fun of him. But these people want to hurt us. They want to hurt us. Why do you think that is?

BECK: I think because that's the only way you can win the argument. Look, I mean --

O'REILLY: But they can't win the argument.

BECK: No, I know that. So what do you do? It is -- I mean, it's why Woodrow Wilson put thousands of Americans behind bars. If you can't win the argument, you have to shout them down, you have to call them racist, you have to call them names. You have to do whatever it is you have to do. If that doesn't work, the revolutionary way is as Robert Creamer -- as I pointed out on the show. Here's a guy who went to prison for embezzlement -- has designed the progressive blueprint that Obama is using. David Axelrod says that. In a newspaper article when I expose him, he says that we must do whatever we have to do, whatever it takes, to shut him down. Well, what do you think that means?

O'REILLY: Yeah. No, OK, I think that's a good answer. There's no other reason for it -- other than jealousy.

Beck has called both Obama and Sotomayor "racist"

Beck called Obama a "racist." After a week of race-baiting in July 2009, Beck said during an appearance on Fox & Friends that Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." After being reminded that Obama has numerous white staffers, Beck contradicted himself, stating, "I'm not saying that he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem," before going on to state, "This guy is, I believe, a racist." Beck later said on his radio show that he "stands by" his comments that Obama is a "racist," adding, "I deem him a racist by his own standard, the standard of the left."

Beck called Sotomayor a "racist." Beck has also called Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor a "racist" on at least three separate occasions.

Beck routinely stoops to name-calling

Beck routinely calls progressives names like Marxists, "vampires," and communists. Beck has repeatedly smeared progressives and Democratic leaders with his long history of calling them communists and Marxists; for example, on his radio show, Beck concluded, "I do believe that Barack Obama is a socialist" who "has Marxist tendencies." Beck has also portrayed progressives as "vampires" who can only be stopped by "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers," and obsessively compared Democrats in Washington to Nazis and fascists and "the early days of Adolf Hitler." He wondered, "Is this where we're headed?" while showing images of Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin; decoded the secret language of Marxists; and compared the government to "heroin pushers" who were "using smiley faced fascism to grow the nanny state."

Beck in 2010: More of the same name-calling. This month alone, Beck has said that Ted Kennedy lived a "long and evil life," said the progressive movement is "evil," compared it to Italian fascism, and compared House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to "Fire Marshal Bill" before asking whether she "had more plastic surgery." Beck has also suggested that Obama is a "slave master" and compared him to Hugo Chavez; said progressives and liberals are anti-Israel and "anti-Jew, in many ways"; and again compared progressives to "vampires" who have a "taste of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent."

Beck's own book is called Arguing with Idiots. In his 2009 book, Arguing with Idiots, Beck purports to engage in an ongoing debate with an "idiot" who supports positions with which Beck disagrees.

Beck once shouted down a caller who disagreed with him, called her a "pinhead"

Beck "lose[s]" his "mind;" screams at caller: "Get off my phone you little pinhead!" On the July 15, 2009, edition of Beck's nationally syndicated radio show, Beck ranted at a caller who disagreed with his position on universal health care. After the caller asked him, "What would you do to change this health care system for the better?" Beck screamed, "Get off my phone. Get off my phone, you little pinhead. ... I'm going to lose my mind today."

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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 25, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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      "If you can't win the argument, you have to shout them down, you have to call them racist, you have to call them names. You have to do whatever it is you have to do."

      Get a job on Fox, for example.

      You know... where it's considerd "journalism" to "shout them down," "call them names," cry about reverse-racism, etc...

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      He's also called us "Vampires" but I can't imagine he even sees himself when HE looks in the mirror!
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      • Author by tsk4636 (January 25, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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        ""If you can't win the argument, you have to shout them down, you have to call them racist, you have to call them names. You have to do whatever it is you have to do.""

        God, if you read the whole context, he's talking about how the progressives try to win arguments, not the way conservatives should do it. Anyone that has ever listened to him knows that so much of what he says is sarcasm, and many times he is describing how the other side, the progressive/liberal side works. I can tell by comments made here and by the cherry picking of Glenn's comments above that these folks don't listen and don't have a since of humor.


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        • Author by DellDolly (January 25, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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          Conservatives DO do it this way. For the most part, progressives do NOT do it this way. That's the point that flew right over your head.

          And it doesn't appear that you can "tell" anything.
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          • Author by Goodfella57 (January 25, 2010 11:36 pm ET)
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            Yeah...Liberals LOVE free speech. Unless you dare disagree.
            Watch David Horowitz get shouted down...again. There are 100 more videos just like it on YouTube.

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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 26, 2010 10:33 am ET)
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              Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck... these guys do nothing BUT shout down those who they disagree with!

              We like DEBATE, we like FREE SPEECH, what we don't like is a news organizatiopn broadcasting demonstrably false propaganda and shouting people down. And yeah... we don't like to see a whole bunch of people protesting about things they don't even understand, and can't even articulate, armed with that same misinformation.

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              Projection is all you people are any good at!
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              • Author by Goodfella57 (January 27, 2010 1:06 pm ET)
                   
                Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck...at least they have those with opposing viewpoints on their shows.
                And you can't be serious about "FREE SPEECH" if you align yourself with MMfA where the ultimate goal is the silencing of those with whom it disagrees. That is censorship.
                More hate spews out of left wing blogs, cable and talk shows than on any conservative talk show. Keith Olbermann is a good place to start. I would guess that you have never watched O'Reilly, or Hannity or listened to Rush.
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        • Author by mmharris438182 (January 25, 2010 9:02 pm ET)
             
          Sarcasm, by its very nature, is insincere. So you're saying Glenn Beck is insincere. He's disingenuous. He's just an entertainer, like Limbaugh, Levin, Savage, and Hannity. Over-paid phonies who pretend to stand for and preach "the truth." Narcissistic frauds is all they are!
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        • Author by Johaely (January 26, 2010 10:15 pm ET)
             
          You cannot tell what "the other side says" by basing it on your distorted beliefs of your opponents.
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      • Author by rkcomments (January 25, 2010 3:31 pm ET)
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        Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News...all have made millions by catering to trailer-park trash.
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        • Author by hamster (January 25, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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          After all, let us not forget that there is just as many people on the "left" who have made "millions" doing whatever they did that made them millions, some examples are...Michael Moore and his ilk.
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          • Author by shaggles (January 25, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
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            That was funny. :D
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          • Author by soze169880 (January 25, 2010 6:24 pm ET)
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            And remember, that makes him a Class Traitor.
            Seriously, get with the times. Michael Moore isn't the name you use, apropos of nothing, to get wingnuts to foam at the mouth; it's "ACORN" or "Reverend Wright".
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    • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 9:45 am ET)
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      I only call racists "racist."

      You know... where it's considerd "journalism" to "shout them down," "call them names," cry about reverse-racism, etc...


      Perfect description of Fox and hate talk radio. "Pinhead," "dweeb," "gnats," . . . . those are some of O'Reilly's favorites. Just ask Fairliberal . . . she repeats his words verbatim.
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      • Author by Major Tom (January 25, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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        "Steyn defends Limbaugh, attacks ADL's Foxman as "disgusting, craven little twerp," "buffoon""

        Marc Steyn is a progressive?
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    • Author by rms (January 25, 2010 9:46 am ET)
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      Beck can't call people pinheads!! Didn't O'Reilly ask for exclusive rights to use that term??
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      • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 9:58 am ET)
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        Ask fairliberal, she has all of O'Reilly's pet names for people he disagrees with memorized. She uses them here ALL THE TIME. It's really rather creepy.
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    • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 10:04 am ET)
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      FYI, I would rather see MMFA show how many of these folks are not socialist or progressive. MMFA comes here on a daily and tried discredit Beck, but not the message. What about the special he did Friday, any problems with the message.
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      • Author by NothingButTheTruth (January 25, 2010 10:09 am ET)
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        MMFA's article above is discrediting Beck's message. It just so happens, that when you discredit what someone says (and it's easy to do so in the case of Beck), it also discredits the person.

        I know you can see that.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 25, 2010 10:10 am ET)
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        The show had a few threads, look them up.

        You can wish the site would do all sorts of things. Think they'll stay with the mission statement though.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 25, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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        Show that who is not progressive?
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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          Show that who is not progressive?


          WTF knows ? Beck and his fans communicate in half-baked sentence fragments, and seem completely unable to see the idiocy of their "arguments", no matter how clearly it's pointed out.

          And they'll see my use of the word "idiocy" above as "name calling", but Beck's ridiculous use of Nazi and socialist as "analysis". There's just something wired wrong in the wingnut brain.

          For example, there are several threads over the past few days related to Beck's crockumentary trying to equate liberals and Nazis. Right below these items are comment threads with a lot of good logic and reasoning explaining why Beck's premise is ridiculous.

          There are also some beck fans, using feelings and confusion, trying and failing to support Beck's wacky ideas.

          So where does the Beck fan wind up today ? On an item about some brand new, clearly hypocritical remarks by Beck, demanding to know why the "message" that is already chopped up and put in the dumpster is not being addressed here.

          I think the idea is just to be as much of an idiot as humanly possible. Eventually, somebody is going to call them an idiot, then they can pretend that there's nothing but name-calling coming from the other side.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 25, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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          You know "these people" "those people" "you people."
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      • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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        Apparently, you haven't read here much over the past few days.

        Beck's program was completely revisionist, dishonest and factually incorrect. The fact that you don't see that is frightening and very, very sad for our country. The fact that you believe that this uneducated, dishonest ZOO RADIO DJ has a CLUE about what he's talking about is very frightening and very, very sad for our country.

        BTW, did Beck's program have anything about the neo-conservative movement in his program? No? Why not? His fellow Fox entertainers, William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, are adherents to the neo-conservative movement which was formerly known as "neo-classical liberalism" and which is based upon the teachings of Leon Trotsky, a Marxist. Why is it that Fox has these Trotskyites on their network? Does that mean that Fox is a MARXIST network???????? Why does Beck allow himself to be in close proximity with a bunch of MARXISTS??????? Does that mean that Beck is a MARXIST, too????

        Beck is an uneducated, narcissistic, lunatic tool.
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        • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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          Are you just going to give me a thumbs down or are you going to answer my questions regarding Fox allowing neo-conservatives [Trotskyites/Marxists] a forum to spew their non-conservative garbage? Research the history of neo-conservatism . . . it's all there and nobody's denying it.

          I'll repeat, this man is an uneducated, dishonest, narcissistic tool, and he is very, very dangerous. Even more dangerous are folks like you who believe his dishonest, factually/historically incorrect revisionist history that he has gleaned from the rantings of a man that the FBI AND the Mormon Church thought was a total NUTJOB.
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          • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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            Really, you have access to the FBI files and Morman Church Files, wow you must be really connected.

            What is more sad is you think your a conservative, when really your just a sad lonely liberal trying to be what your not.
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            • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:10 pm ET)
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              Um, please do a search on "Cleon Skousen." The FBI and Mormon Church's opinions of Skousen are public knowledge and quite easy to find. He was a complete and total nutjob, just like Beck [who has described himself as a "borderline schizophrenic." I'm thinking bipolar disorder with paranoid schizophrenic tendencies myself.]

              Oh, and I'm not lonely at all, in fact, I have a very, very full and happy life. You, sir, if you believe that Glen Beck is a) a conservative, b) sane and c) truthful in his comments, you are not a conservative. You are simply a Fox/hate talk radio groupie.

              Did you have a chance to answer my questions regarding the neo-conservative/Trotskyite/Marxists who are regulars on Fox? Do some research on neo-conservatism . . . if you agree with those folks, you are most ASSUREDLY not a "conservative."
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              • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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                You said Beck was listed by the FBI and Mormon Church, now you say Skousen was, and since Beck is like Skousen then he must be as well. Sorry, No Go.

                Bi, how many times must we tell you, we base our own opinions by listening to many individuals, reading and doing research. What is sad around here is that you and many others think MMFA gives you the truth. Not the case.

                FYI, Fox has many individuals on their show, and yes Since Obama has been on the channel, your correct some Marxist have been on, Bush is a Neo Conservative much like McCain. Based on my choices in past elections, would Take Bush over Kerry and Gore and McCain over Obama.

                In simple terms I like Beck for his views on smaller government, he is correct on these cases and the past Adminstartions. He was not a big Bush Fan cause of his spending and open boarders. I do not like the federal government getting into my daily life and the health care bill would have done just that more then any past bill. Before you all yell and scream about all the other big government areas and did I complin then YES. If I could vote for a President that would come in and start tearing all of these programs down, re-evlauate any that offer true care or help to those that are unable, and start pulling our support to any country that does not support us, pull ALL of our troops home from foreign land (do it slow, not over night) and get back to the Constitution.
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                • Author by Max Credits (January 25, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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                  You said Beck was listed by the FBI and Mormon Church, now you say Skousen was, and since Beck is like Skousen then he must be as well. Sorry, No Go.


                  Wow, Dude. Wow.
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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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                    I second that "Wow".

                    ...we base our own opinions by listening to many individuals, reading and doing research...
                    (markbfoot)

                    You're doing it wrong.



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                    • Author by txthinker (January 25, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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                      ...we base our own opinions by listening to many individuals, reading and doing research...

                      ...and then discarding anything that does not advance our agenda.
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                  • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
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                    Did you see me say that Beck was listed by the FBI and Mormon Church? I've figured out why Mark watches Beck and believes his crap. He can't read.
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                    • Author by Max Credits (January 25, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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                      I did not see you say that becuase you did not say that. You're right, the guy can't read. He's tried to read what you wrote 4 times now and he still thinks you said that Beck was listed by the FBI and Mormon Church.
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                    • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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                      Bi, your right you were talking about someone else and the FBI, but as many names as you all call him here, just seemed par you would call Beck the same.
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                      • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
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                        Can't acknowledge that you were wrong, huh?
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                        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 26, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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                          Mark is the same poster who claimed that no programs instituted by FDR are still in place today. He also claimed that Arabs played no part in the advancement of mathematics (even though algebra is an Arabic word). He also claimed that Timothy McVeigh was a Democrat. He is either totally ignorant of basic facts and only believes what is spoonfed to him by hate radio and Fox News or he is a lunatic. Either way, he is really a waste of time to attempt to have an intellectual debate with.
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                          • Author by John Paradox (January 27, 2010 2:33 am ET)
                               
                            He also claimed that Arabs played no part in the advancement of mathematics

                            Also the source of 0 (zero)
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                • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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                  Even more dangerous are folks like you who believe his dishonest, factually/historically incorrect revisionist history that he has gleaned from the rantings of a man that the FBI AND the Mormon Church thought was a total NUTJOB.


                  You just proved my point, you can't read. I said that Beck has "gleaned" his false crap from the "rantings of a man, Skousen, that the FBI AND the Morman Church thought was a total NUTJOB. Learn to read and comprehend, bub.

                  The Marxists I am speaking of who have regular spots on Fox are William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer. McCain is not a neo-conservative and neither is Bush. Bush really doesn't give a flip one way or the other. He would have preferred to be the Commissioner of Baseball. I'll repeat, you have absolutely no concept of the "isms" Beck is spewing about.
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                  • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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                    Maybe you need to look up Neo-Conservative.

                    Neo - (used as a combining form) recent or new
                    Conservative - 1. A person who has conservative ideas or opinions.

                    Bush and McCain wanted to bring all folks into the Conservative movement, Big Tent. Sorry, that would be the New Idea of a Conservative.

                    I am old school, less government, less spending. Bush & McCain were not. Hence Neo-Conservative.
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                    • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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                      Maybe you need to look up "Neo-Conservatism," Leo Strauss, the Straussians, Neo-Classical Liberalism, Leon Trotsky, Trotskyite, Irving Kristol. Again, you have absolutely no concept of any of the "isms" that you and your UNEDUCATED hero are trying to discuss.

                      Bush and McCain are not neo-conservatives as that ideological term is defined.

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                      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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                        LMAO, I want a copy of MF's imaginary dictionary.

                        Conservative - 1. A person who has conservative ideas or opinions.


                        I imagine other entries, like;

                        Stupid (adj.) Somebody what am stupid.
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                        • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
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                          Well, if you would like to call that about Webster, that is your call.
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                          • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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                            Did you research any of the subjects I gave you above? If not, you should. You obviously are not very well-versed in political ideology; therefore, you really shouldn't be believing Beck's BS without question as you are. He's lying and you're buying. RESEARCH.
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                          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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                            My point was that giving a self-referencing definition ( a conservative is somebody conservative) is useless without the definition of the word "conservative".(This was probably given ahead of the definition you posted)

                            So, no, I would not like to call that about Webster. Whatever that means.
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                  • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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                    I have never heard Beck speak of Skousen, much less say this is where I get my ideas. Unless there is proof, you are just a lier. You need to stop watching MSNBC and reading MMFA.

                    Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer are not Marxist if that is the case then Obama is a pure Communist. If you are going to make things up, so can I.

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        • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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          Bi, sorry to disappoint you, but the information in his show was fact.

          Chi - Cold Blood Murder
          The Chairman - Cold Blood Murder
          Hitler - Cold Blood Murder

          All of the folks about also think that the government knows best for you, if you disagree with them, DEAD.

          Also, the show was about Progressives, not Neo-Conservative movement. You are more then welcome to make your own.

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          • Author by nerzog (January 25, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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            What do modern Progressives have to do with Mao, Chi, Stalin or Hitler?
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            • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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              Nothing at all, but our buddy Mark is so uninformed regarding political ideology he will believe anything Beck, who is also uninformed and ignorant, has to say.
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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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              HMmm, lets see. The fact that they follow their teachings, they have Christmas tree ornaments in the White House, they quote them in speeches. Just those small things to start. When they stop following their teachings, their ideas and making them out as smart individuals.
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              • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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                Good lord, are you uninformed or what? I would tell you again to turn off Fox and read, but based upon your response to one of my posts above, I've figured out why you listen to and believe Beck. You can't read.

                Unbelievable. You actually ARE one of the dangerous folks who listens to Beck and believes him WITHOUT QUESTION. Scary, buddy, really, really scary.
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                • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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                  Great, You are now scared of me, love it.
                  So on the Christmas Tree at the White House there was not a Ornament with Chairman Chao picture?
                  The Former Director of Communications did not say she follows the teaching of Chao? I give her kudos for Sister Theresa

                  The list goes on, but would be happy to inform you of all of Obama circle that believe the same. I hope Obama is not listening to them, much like his past preacher he had for 20 years, not listening but just sitting there looking good.
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                  • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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                    You are posting talking points without research.

                    The ornament, which was not selected by nor added by the President, was created by a local community group and had a decoupaged copy of Andy Warhol's silkscreen of Mao on it. If you knew anything about the silkscreen, it was making FUN of Mao. It was one of EIGHT HUNDRED ornaments sent out to local community groups. The Obamas didn't even KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM, mark.

                    As for the other comment, if you actually READ what was actually SAID, you would have seen that the comment made by the communications director was said IN JEST.

                    Try READING!

                    And yes, people who are so ignorant that they believe the rantings of an uneducated, zoo radio DJ who has said that he is a "borderline schizophrenic" scare the beegies out of me. You're dangerous.
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                    • Author by dcuneo (January 27, 2010 11:39 pm ET)
                         
                      Beck is schizophrenic? Well, that explains the title of his book then. Thanks.
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                  • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:32 pm ET)
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                    Mao Tse-Tung was on the Christmas Tree,
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                    • Author by vhw28672478 (January 25, 2010 1:39 pm ET)
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                      Beck knows nothing about History
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                    • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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                      Good LORD, did you READ what I posted above? Seriously, CAN YOU READ?
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                    • Author by bilbo_dies (January 25, 2010 2:02 pm ET)
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                      I thought Mao was buried in China?
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                      • Author by jonesjax2374 (January 25, 2010 11:24 pm ET)
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                        LOL BILBO!!! Bravo. I don't know how old Markbefoot is but someone mentioned Beck's SARCASM (too lazy to find it). Perhaps the concept of Warhols celebrity picture of Mao is lost on this person. And I did watch Beck completely mangle into paranoia artwork made during the depression by Diego Rivera. Morning Zoo man should just wait a while. Pat Robertson should be dead soon and he can be the real Elmer Gantry he longs to be without all this COMPLICATED HISTORY STUFF he just doesn't get.
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                    • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
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                      What happened to Chi and Chao ?
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                    • Author by DellDolly (January 25, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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                      Mao was on the tree? Funny, I thought he was dead and buried in China.

                      Oh, you mean that a replica of a silkscreen of Mao, made by Andy Warhol, was on an ornament.

                      A piece of art done by Warhol that made fun of Mao?

                      An ornament that was an homage to Warhol's works of art in a museum? It wasn't celebrating Mao at all. It was celebrating a local point of interest, a museum that has some of Warhol's works in it. It was one of the many replicas of artworks included on that ornament.

                      So, Warhol mocks Mao, and that mocking silkscreen of Mao gets replicated on an ornament and sent to the White House to be put on one of 37(?) trees in the White House, and somehow in your twisted brain it means that Obama reveres Mao?
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                  • Author by soze169880 (January 25, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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                    So on the Christmas Tree at the White House there was not a Ornament with Chairman Chao picture?

                    It's MAO, you idiot. And it was Andy Warhol's portrait of him, where he's wearing ROUGE. Is that how you express admiration of people? By having an openly gay artist emasculate them?
                    The Former Director of Communications did not say she follows the teaching of Chao?

                    No, she didn't. And again, I really can't believe you think his name was "Chao".
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              • Author by raddave43 (January 25, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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                Who specifically follows the teachings of Chi(as you called him), Stalin and Mao? Sure they have Christmas tree ornaments in the white house, othewise their Christmas trees would have looked bare, but do you honestly think someone in the Whitehouse would be stupid enought to purposly put an ornament with Mao's picture up?
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          • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
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            Ah, but the premise of his show was incorrect. Based upon your comments above, I know why you incorrectly call yourself a conservative. You have absolutely no concept of the differences between political ideologies. If the show was about "progressives," then it was not based on fact because NONE of those folks you mentioned were progressives, nor were they liberal, nor were they truly conservative. You, like Beck, are applying political ideologies on other political ideologies and dictators which have no bearing whatsoever on these folks. They were just evil despots.

            Oh, and if Beck left out the neo-conservative movement, he left out a whole crew of Trotskyite/Marxists who advocated the cold blooded murder of many, many thousands of innocent Iraqis. Those folks have regular seats on your propaganda network of choice, Fox.

            Nice try, but, once again, you are showing your ignorance. Try reading and turn off Fox and hate talk radio. They do not represent conservatism and they do not represent truth.

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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              Bi, the truly sad part about all of your rants is you treat everyone that disagrees with as dumb. (wow your starting to sound like a progressive) What you lack or social skills, you think because someone did not get a law degree or advanced degree they are idiots. Let me help you out Mr. "I look down on those less educated". Each and everyone of the individuals in the special were in fact progressives.

              Progressive
              Adjective
              1. Favoring or promoting progress; "progressive schools".
              2. Favoring or promoting reform (often by government action).
              3. (of taxes) adjusted so that the rate increases as the amount increases.
              4. Gradually advancing in extent.
              5. Advancing in severity; "progressive paralysis"

              Each one of those leaders felt that they knew what was best for the common man (much like you right now) and they were wrong and millions died from it.
              They did not start out as Dictators, they were able to sell a bill of goods to folks, get them to follow them over time felt they were the smartest person in the room. (hmm sounds like you also) If you did not agree with them DEAD. Simple.

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              • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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                I'll say again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

                I think people are idiots who ACT like idiots. I think people who pretend to have knowledge of something that they quite clearly do not are ignorant. I think someone who may or may not have graduated from high school pretending that he has knowledge of the crap he is spewing when he does not is uneducated.

                I think someone who supports the unadulterated and very, very dangerous BULL that Beck spews day in and day out WITHOUT QUESTION is both ignorant [unread] and very, very dangerous. He is also NOT a conservative.

                BTW, I'm "Ms. Look Down my Nose on ignoramuses like you."
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                • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:39 pm ET)
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                  Oh Sorry, Ms.

                  I know, we are idiots, we do not have your degrees or education. I will let Microsoft Chairman know he is a idiot as well.

                  Yes and since we do not watch MSNBS, CNN, ABC News, 20/20, NPR and related shows, we must be clueless.

                  Oh well, you win, you are smarter then all of us. Ms Dictator, what should we do, we follow just you now. I am sure if we do not follow you, you will just Kill us like your hero's of Mao Tse-Tung, Castro, Che Guevara, Hitler, Stalin. I coward, I do not want to die.
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                  • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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                    LOL!!!!!

                    I don't watch much cable opinion programming, don't watch ABC News, 20/20 or "related shows," whatever that means. I occasionally listen to our local Christian University's programing on NPR . . . which is, I might add, associated with the Independent churches of Christ, which is the uber-conservative church I attended for many years before my divorce. They don't look too favorably on divorced women, so I changed churches.

                    I'm not smarter than "all of you," mark, but I READ and I don't sit around listening to an UNEDUCATED man wax philosophical on subjects of which he knows NOTHING and BELIEVE him.

                    None of the folks you mentioned above are my heroes, in fact, I don't know anyone who considers those folks heroes. If you don't want to die, you might want to re-think your listening habits. See, you are convinced that, because I don't believe that Beck is a conservative, I'm a "liberal" or a "progressive." Beck has declared war on "progressives." What are you going to do when one of Beck's deranged followers decides that, because you don't believe what they believe 100%, that you, too, are a progressive or a liberal? Do you see the danger in Beck's uneducated and uninformed rantings? I'd suggest that you re-read the poem that Beck quotes incorrectly.

                    First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;

                    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;

                    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;

                    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out.--Martin Niemoller, January 6, 1946.
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                  • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 25, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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                    A person who is deemed an idiot refuses to acknowledge facts when presented with facts. bintx, DellDolly, and others presented you with factual information about the Warhol ornament and the so-called progressives Beck misinformed you about, but you persist in your ignorance, idiocy, and stupidity. You're really an ideologue. Facts don't matter to you. Fuchs Noose has fuched you over and tied a noose of misinformation around your neck and is choking any sense you ever had out of you, and you thank them for it. How ironic.
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                  • Author by vysotsky (January 25, 2010 7:18 pm ET)
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                    "Yes and since we do not watch MSNBS, CNN, ABC News, 20/20, NPR and related shows, we must be clueless."

                    If you think NPR is something to watch, then yes, there may be an issue worth addressing with a professional.

                    All kidding aside, I have no reason to believe you're not a perfectly intelligent person. But you seem to be avoiding facts actively in this discussion. For example, you said that the information in Beck's show was fact. I've shown you that Beck falsely attributed quotes to Marx and Engels, and falsely claimed that the title of his documentary comes from "a line from Karl Marx."

                    Doesn't it concern you that Beck didn't, can't, or won't verify his claims about the title of his own documentary? If he and his staff didn't even bother to fact-check the title of the special, don't you think that other errors just possibly might be in the show?
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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                ...you treat everyone that disagrees with as dumb...


                Actually, I've had many disagreements with bintx, and have never felt that she was treating me as if I was dumb. Do you think a little personal accountability on your part might be in order here ?

                That is, do you think it's possible that you're being treated as dumb because of your unquestioning acceptance of Beck's asinine theories, or your inability to communicate coherently ?

                Or is it more comforting to tell yourself there's some sinister, unwarranted reason that people treat you as if you're "dumb" ?



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              • Author by raddave43 (January 25, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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                Sorry, but only 2 of the three people you named earlier were leaders or dictators and only one came to power by election. Che was never in charge of any country, and Mao came to power through a revolution. No one looks down on the less educated, but if you feel you are less educated then do something about it and educate yourself.
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              • Author by HardJustice (January 25, 2010 1:37 pm ET)
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                Fascist have trait A.
                Liberals have trait A.
                Conclusion: Liberals are fascists.

                Logical fallacy. Argument FAIL.
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                • Author by dandelion (January 25, 2010 10:01 pm ET)
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                  Hitler loved dogs
                  Obama has a dog
                  Conclusion: Obama loves Hitler

                  Beck's popularity is "Idiocracy" come to life. It is indeed frightening that a man that uninformed and intellectually reckless could have a platform to influence millions of people.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 26, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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                Where are you getting these definitions, Mark?

                –adjective

                1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.
                2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
                3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
                4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
                5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.
                6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.
                7. of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools.
                8. Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference.
                9. Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

                –noun

                10. a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.
                11. (initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party.
                12. Grammar. a. the progressive aspect.
                b. a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it.



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              • Author by dcuneo (January 27, 2010 11:29 pm ET)
                   
                So it sounds like Beck is slated to be Dictator.

                Perhaps we can raffle him off to a third world country--oh wait. America is becoming a third world country.

                See article in (paleoconservative?)magazine, the American Conservative: http://www.amconmag.com/issue/2010/jan/01/
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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              bintx, your suggestion that he try reading is well-intentioned, but I think he's already demonstrated, in his response to your Skousen comment, that's not a sure-fire way of getting the information to his brain
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              • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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                I think you're right. I think we've honed in on his problem. He can't read.
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                • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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                  Wow, now making fun of those that can not read. You must be so proud.
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                  • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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                    No, just making fun of you.
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                    • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 25, 2010 2:33 pm ET)
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                      You're making fun of Markbfoot

                      markbfoot can't read

                      you're making fun of people who can't read.


                      Hey, I'm Glen Beck !

                      BTW, how did mbf know you were making fun of him ?
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                      • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 2:42 pm ET)
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                        I guess he can read . . . SELECTIVELY! LOL!
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                        • Author by dcuneo (January 27, 2010 11:14 pm ET)
                             
                          Poor bintx! How hard you tried to use facts, information and evidence against a guy (markbfoot) who is so out of touch with reality that he confidentially counters your citing of FBI and the Mormon Church conclusions re Skousen with:
                          Really, you have access to the FBI files and Mormon Church Files, wow you must be really connected.
                          In other words, he seems sincerely unaware that such information is publicly available. He obviously holds the out-of-date but not uncommon view that "FBI files" are only procured by the most powerful politician or the most determined burglar—or an inside leak. IE the ways they are procured on TV. (Not many TV shows us the Freedom of Information Act to get them).

                          I don't mean this unkindly, but he is ignorant,and as such hold ignorant (uneducated) views, and has probably been made to feel ignorant all his life by people like you, ie people who found his proclamations unsupportable and ignorant and dangerous (which they are).

                          So when someone like Beck comes along who validates his worldview—and to an uneducated, ignorant mind Beck is assumed to be 'educated' just be dint of being 1) on TV 2) in 'news' and 3) using facts [hard to find facts which means he's got connections!] that support HIS worldview. No wonder so many of the same type of people like him. Beck is a salve to the ignorant ego which the world has been slapping like a red-headed step child since middle-school:
                          ..you treat everyone that disagrees with as dumb. (wow your starting to sound like a progressive) What you lack or social skills, you think because someone did not get a law degree or advanced degree they are idiots. Let me help you out Mr. "I look down on those less educated"
                          Beck validates their ignorance which, frankly, in their ignorance they don't know how to fix. They think it has to do with 'schooling' and literally don't know enough to know how to know what they don't know.
                          "It ain't what we don't know that makes us a fool, it's what we think we know but don't."
                          I give him credit for FINALLY acknowledging his misinterpretation re: 'Beck must also be...' comebacks. Observe, however, what finally motivated him to read more carefully: NOT reasoned arguments and facts, but raw DERISION from the group when his pseudo-intellectualism' got too much to bear.

                          Note also that once the group stopped trying to 'reason' with him and used common sense logic fallacy examples to mock him (as opposed to merely mocking him)he never came back at you.

                          Beck is a 'cult' leader and you know how those are made. Logic, reason, etc have little impact in such cases. Cognitive dissonance is required for a change in belief, and, well, in these cases (well-focused and specific) derision seems to do the trick.

                          I know these things because I am a friend of McGyver, and he gave me Beck's FBI files.
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                  • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 25, 2010 5:18 pm ET)
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                    I have an advanced degree in middle grades education with a focus on reading. You appear to have a reading comprehensiion problem. That one can say the correct words written on a page doesn't mean that one can understand what has been written. During my long career I saw many students who could recite the words in the textbook but not be able to tell me what the words meant, and this was a major impediment to their ability to be successful in my class.
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          • Author by vysotsky (January 25, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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            "Bi, sorry to disappoint you, but the information in his show was fact."


            Baloney. There's no evidence that any of the claims in the show were even superficially fact checked. Take this, for example: Beck attributes this quote to Marx in his show:
            "the classes and races, too weak to master the new ways of life, must give way." - Marx, The People [sic] Paper, April 16, 1853."

            (Look in this video of Beck's show at about the 3:33 mark.)

            Now, first of all, it's the People's Paper, and you can read what Marx published on April 16th, 1853 here. No, really, have a look through and see if you can find anything about classes and races and giving way to new ways of life. Beck is just plain wrong on this.

            The next quote Beck attributes to Marx is this:
            "the chief mission of all the other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust."
            - Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 42, No. 1, March 1981 pp. 115-138.

            That's weird, isn't it? I mean, why not quote the original source rather than another author's quotation? The article Beck is citing is "In the Interests of Civilization": Marxist Views of Race and Culture in the Nineteenth Century by Diane Paul, and on the author does provide this quote... but attributes it to something Engels wrote in the Neue Rheinische Zeitung in a piece called "Der Magyarische Kampf" (The Magyar Fight or the Magyar Struggle) on January 13, 1849. You can also read that here. And again, you will find no trace of the word "holocaust". What he says is, "All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary world storm."

            This is not a call for genocide -- this is a prediction that most nations will not last in a world communist revolution.

            Beck is simply wrong.
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          • Author by Disputed Zone (January 25, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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            Chi - Cold Blood Murder

            I don't think so. Maybe you're thinking of another bald, heavyset, African-American character actor, Charles Dutton, who did time for manslaughter.

            The Chairman - Cold Blood Murder

            No, Sinatra never made his bones.
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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 25, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
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              Che, Also was a racist.

              The Chairman - (Mao Tse-Tung) FYI, I think Sinatra was with the mob, so never know.
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          • Author by John Paradox (January 26, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
               
            The Chairman - Cold Blood Murder

            OMG!!!1! Frank Sinatra was a murderer???
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      • Author by worrierking (January 25, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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        "...are not socialist or progressive."

        Regardless of how many of Beck's charges are refuted, he'll have twenty more tomorrow.

        In the real world, the person making the accusations usually has to back them up. And not by connecting imaginary dots on a blackboard, but with facts.

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        • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 11:00 am ET)
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          Exactly. That's why our legal system is structured on the basis that it is up to the ACCUSER to prove his/her case. The ACCUSED must prove nothing. Beck is advocating a totalitarian system of government similar to those he is allegedly against. What a total and complete lunatic.
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          • Author by raddave43 (January 25, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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            It kind of sounds like a couple of public hearings in the 50s. "You are a communist, I have a piece of paper that says you are. Now prove to the world you are not one."
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            • Author by bintx (January 25, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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              Or the Salem Witch trials . . . the play "The Crucible" is about the similarities in both.
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              • Author by nerzog (January 25, 2010 12:14 pm ET)
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                Exactly. Is it any coincidence that it was uneducated religious fanatics who were so easily duped into murdering "witches", and it is primarily uneducated religious fanatics who are so eager to believe Glenn Beck's lies?

                I'm just asking...
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              • Author by MidnightWriter (January 25, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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                I would imagine, in Beck's eyes, Danforth is the hero.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 25, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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        "FYI, I would rather see MMFA show how many of these folks are not socialist or progressive."

        Despite what Beck has been claiming lately progressive is not a pejorative. I never really use the term myself (I'm sticking with liberal) but it's ridiculous to lump progressive in with socialist, communist, Marxist, etc. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with any of those things.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 25, 2010 11:56 am ET)
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        The stupidity of Beck's message is self-evident and his supporting arguments are riddled with falsehoods. If you have a college education and can't see the flaws in Bbeck's "message" you should ask for your money back.

        And if YOU have a college education, they should demand your diploma back, since you didn't retain any understanding of the idea of "null hypothesis" or "burden of proof." You can't prove you're NOT something. (How does one rpove they're "not a sicialist" exactly? It can't be done!) That's not up to MMFA to do. The onus is on Beck to make the case, with FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE information. MMFA does not "try to discredit" Beck. They've shown, countless times now, how he's used false statement, made-up "facts", mis-quotes and extrememly questionable interpretations or revisionist history, to make his case.

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        IMHO
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      • Author by raddave43 (January 25, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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        FYI, I would rather see MMFA show how Beck doesn't like to sleep with pre-teen boys.
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 25, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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        I don't deny being progressive. Beck and his loser fans haven't convinced me it's something to be ashamed of, just like they couldn't with "liberal".
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 25, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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        I would rather see MMFA show how many of these folks are not socialist or progressive.

        I, for one, would LOVE to see any of these clowns (or you) make the case that either of these things, "progressive" in particular, are in fact bad things.

        -------------------------------------------------------------------
        Get out of your Neo-McCarthy, Jingoistic mode of thinking, and try ACTUALLY thinking for a change. Beck's an idiot. You should really pick a better role model.
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    • Author by cyberstrike (January 25, 2010 10:18 am ET)
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      I think conservatives like Beck, Limbaugh, and the morons on FNC are the real evil in America.
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    • Author by wjonze (January 25, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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      Right so they are both black! the republicans and democrats (all progressives). it has become a who can shout the loudest contest.

      Both are guilty!
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    • Author by cribbflynn (January 25, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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      It is a well known fact that the things that bother us most in other people are the things within us that need fixing. Their charges are absurd. I've never before seen such high-schoolish name-calling and childish cheap tactics as I see coming from the GOP and it's followers.
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    • Author by txthinker (January 25, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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      Beck screamed, "Get off my phone. Get off my phone, you little pinhead. ... I'm going to lose my mind today."

      And then, he did..... :-)
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    • Author by Max Credits (January 25, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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      I can't even imagine the ways in which Glenn Beck would verbally assault Glenn Beck if he devoted just one day to shining a so-called spotlight on himself... what with him being a tax cheat who inspired a cop killer and shares the political beliefs of a guy who was arrested on charges of raping a child, not to mention that he's getting paid by Saudi royalty to drum up the domestic terrorism.
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    • Author by Old55 (January 25, 2010 11:25 am ET)
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      Of course it's only anecdotal, but my experience has been that it conservatives (columnists, pundits, etc.) who engage in most of the name-calling, shouting, etc. They're much better at it, it seems. There is no calm, rational discussion -- and Beck is a case-in-point.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 25, 2010 11:29 am ET)
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        We all do it to some degree. The irony (or hypocrisy) here is that Beck of all people is accusing someone else of doing the thing upon which his entire career is based. Maybe he's worried about losing his share of the hate mongering market.
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    • Author by Porkeater (January 25, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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      I think the mature, reasoned, intelligent reply Beck is looking for is: "Nahh-nahh nee boo-boo". or perhaps "I am rubber, you are glue... etc."
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    • Author by everettbme (January 25, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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      I think O'Lielly pretty much sums it up with the statements "I mean, look, I was kidding about Bill Maher before. I don't hate Bill Maher" and "I mean, he's not my kind of guy, but I don't want to hurt him. I don't, you know -- I'll make fun of him. But these people want to hurt us.".
      Basically, it's "we are only kidding around and teasing when we call names and make fun of people". Nothing but school yard bully.
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    • Author by everettbme (January 25, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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      I'm starting to wonder if Becko got the title of his book from his sessions of talking to himself in front of a mirror while learning to be a DJ.
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 25, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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        If you read up on Beck, you'll learn that back in the DJ days, his mirror was very rarely used for staring into.
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    • Author by ny2nc (January 25, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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      O'REILLY: I mean, he's not my kind of guy, but I don't want to hurt him. I don't, you know -- I'll make fun of him. But these people want to hurt us. They want to hurt us. Why do you think that is?


      So it is OK for YOU to "make fun" of someone? Check.

      These people? They?

      Who are "these people?" Who are "they?"

      How have "they" said "they" want to "hurt" you?

      Do "They" want to shoot you with "their" second-amendment-approved guns? Do "they" want to hurt your feelings? Do "they" want to burn you with a cigarette?

      GEEZ, Louise! What grade-A insubstantial claptrap!

      KEEP ON ROARING INTO THE ECHO CHAMBER, GUYS!
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    • Author by Bulletproof Air (January 25, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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      Beck is a shining example of a PROJECTOR.

      He projects his beliefs and personality onto others and talks them down, completely oblivious to the fact that what he is saying PERFECTLY describes himself.

      It's a common way for an extremely narcissistic person to critique himself while not taking the blame for the negatives.
      He frequently blames others for the way things are and believes people have "ganged up" against him and those with similar beliefs.

      If you don't believe me, just go over the adjectives and phrases he uses to negatively describe others. You'll quickly realize that all those things he negatively criticizes, are "attributes" he displays quite prominently.

      It's almost to the point where it's getting hard to hold this guy accountable for what he says, he seems so...ill....and it's a sad thing, really.

      He's PROGRESSIVELY getting more and more extreme, in my sole opinion...

      Projection.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (January 25, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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      Hello Mr. Pot.
      I would like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.
      I think you both have a lot in common.
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    • Author by Hula (January 25, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
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      I mean, it's why Woodrow Wilson put thousands of Americans behind bars.

      Beck is a big fan of the novel "Liberal Fascism". He now quotes it as fact. Beck is a Bircher.
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    • Author by mmfa.fan (January 25, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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      I'm sorry, but I can't take seriously anyone who actually accepts the suggestion that Hitler (or Stalin for that matter) was a liberal. Please, please go to school.
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      • Author by mmfa.fan (January 25, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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        Oh wait, I forgot -- the schools are all run by progressive elitists. Nevermind.
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 25, 2010 3:35 pm ET)
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          They did a study recently on that, and it appears that the BELIEF that professors are liberal has led most conservatives to not aim to be professors and for some liberals to be comfortable striving to be a professor. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy that someone started a couple of decades ago. Nurses are gender-affiliated. Professors are politically-typed as liberal. The article below assigns responsibility to William F Buckley and others in the 1950's as the ones who started alleging that there was liberal bias in academia.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/arts/18liberal.html
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    • Author by politeradical (January 25, 2010 3:49 pm ET)
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      Chi - Cold Blood Murder


      Damn it, he was hilarious in 'Waiting'.
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 25, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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        That's the absolute proof of Obama's agenda we've been waiting for... HE'S FROM CHI-CAGO!
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        • Author by tom7343 (January 25, 2010 11:10 pm ET)
             
          These two remind me of an era called "McCarthyISM"
          Loud and dangerous. Joseph McCarthy R Wisconsin was so much the same as these two who would make the most noise about what they thought would channel hatred at their enemy. Allowed to continue on a vengeance distorting and destroying with that hatred.

          No other Senator got as much attention during that era. He was a Right Wing zealot whose witch hunting destroyed may lives as he profited from the glamor.

          I see no difference here.
          "Fair and Balance"?
          They are the news
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    • Author by donwelty (January 26, 2010 5:23 am ET)
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      I have several problems with the way Beck operates:

      1. He jumps from one subject to another. Most other commentators at least stand a subject for a number of minutes--Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow-- to name a few. Beck goes from one idea to the next and there is a little coherence between them.
      2. He usually talks in vague generalities without mentioning specific details over defining his terms. He does not define "communist," "fascist," or "progressive." He just uses these terms to describe people, mostly Democrats, without much they would lose their delay specifically that allows them to apply those labels to them.
      3. He uses emotion as support for his arguments, crying on stage and say in a shaky voice as if he is deeply disturbed "I love my country." By doing so he lies that something terrible is happening in America will collapse fairly quickly.
      4. He argues from a general perspective, mentioning a few facts. He said that Pres. Obama was a "racist". . . "with a deep-seated hatred for white culture." There are no facts, no actions of the president by which a normal person can determine whether Beck's opinion of Obama in any way reflects an opinion that a reasonable American would conclude.

      In other words, if Beck was a student in my writing class, he would not do very well because he cannot support he says with facts, argues in a generalities, lacks coherence from moment to moment.
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    • Author by rjackson1500@yahoo.com (January 26, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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      the bottom line is faux news is the media arm for the white pride movement that is the g.o.p and if these tea bagging bigots want to believe in this fine...but it is high time that the rest of the media stops placating these right wing trailer park white trash small town redneck hicks and acting as if what they have to say is based on anything other then their own small world view as seen from the trailer parks of fly over country
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    • Author by watkinsjr966 (January 26, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
         
      "Beck replied: "If you can't win the argument, you have to shout them down, you have to call them racist, you have to call them names. You have to do whatever it is you have to do."
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      This, coming from Beck is hilarious.Sir, you & your whole damned network of propagandists are a bad joke.
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    • Author by Lyr (January 26, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
         
      He's gonna lose his mind 'today'? Too late! :)
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