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The right-wing response to Obama's SOTU address: "jerk," "arrogant," cocky"

January 28, 2010 1:29 am ET — 148 Comments

Conservative media figures reacted to President' Obama's 2010 State of the Union address as usual -- with attacks on Obama and fellow Democrats. Media Matters for America has compiled some of their reactions.

Attacks on Obama: "jerk," "arrogant," "fake"

Hood: "[J]erk"

In a January 27 post on National Review Online's The Corner, John Hood wrote:

One Way to Put It

Is simply this: The president looks like a jerk tonight.

Hood: "[G]rating," "flippant and arrogant"

In another January 27 post on The Corner, Hood wrote:

Ugh. We're only a couple of minutes into the president's address, and the cadence and rhythm of his speaking voice is already grating. They come across as flippant and arrogant. Hasn't anyone ever told him that?

NRO's Lopez: "[T]hin skinned"

On her Twitter account, NRO's Kathryn Lopez wrote that Obama is "thin skinned":

Lopez subsequently wrote that Obama "really thinks this song is about him":

Erickson: "[C]ocky and snide"

RedState.com's Erick Erickson wrote: "What you did not know at home listening to Barack Obama's speech tonight is that he inserted a few quips that were not in the prepared text. They were cocky and snide."

Stossel: "'Gee, I'm so sorry. I was arrogant'"

Before the address, Fox Business' Neil Cavuto asked: "What do you want to hear out of the president tonight?" Host John Stossel replied: "Well, I'd like him to say, 'Gee, I'm so sorry. I was arrogant. We were arrogant. We thought we could reshape the world to my vision. So we wasted lots of your money." After the address, Stossel reacted by claiming Obama "certainly didn't sound humbled, I agree."

Stein: "We'll see Obama with his fake modesty and his fake humility"

Discussing his expectations of the State of the Union address on Fox Business, Ben Stein stated: "Well, we'll see a lot of promises, and we'll see Obama with his fake modesty and his fake humility and his fake fighting aggressiveness. But he's just going to be his same politician. So, he's just a politician. I'd love it if he said, 'I'm not the messiah; I'm a politician. I don't know very much. I'm going to take a year off until I learn more. And I'm not going to interfere and screw up people's lives anymore.' "

RedState: "Obama the Patronizing Lecturer"

RedState contributor Dan Perrin described Obama as "the Patronizing Lecturer," writing: "It was more like a lecture that combined a chest-beating tone that he is doing the tough work of saving the nation and he expects Congress and the nation to follow him."

Nordlinger: Obama "looks arrogant," has an "upturned chin"

On The Corner, National Review senior editor Jay Nordlinger wrote: "Obama looks arrogant, whether he's arrogant or not. I don't think he can help it: It's the upturned chin. When actors want to preen and so on: They turn that chin upward. Yikes."

Marc Thiessen: Obama address "defensive, arrogant"

On washingtonpost.com, author and former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen wrote: "Instead of acknowledging these concerns [about terrorism], Obama dismissed them. It was strange, defensive, arrogant -- and un-presidential."

Personal attacks against Democrats

Kennedy

From conservative blogger John Hawkins' Twitter account:

Pelosi and botox

From NewsBusters' managing editor Ken Shepherd's Twitter account:

Shepherd subsequently highlighted a Twitter post from someone claiming, "I can't get over how ugly that lady [Pelosi] behind obama is."

Pelosi's looks

From conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg's Twitter account:

On The Corner, Nordlinger wrote: "Could you bounce a quarter off the House speaker's face or what? That thing just might shoot back at you and put your eye out."

Adoptions of Joe Wilson's "You lie"

NewsBusters' Sheppard

From NewsBusters associate editor Noel Sheppard's Twitter account:

From Weekly Standard editor Michael Goldfarb's Twitter account:

False, dubious attacks

Obama "forgot to thank the troops"

On her Twitter account, Fox News contributor Andrea Tantaros claimed that "Obama remembered to blame Bush but forgot to thank the troops."

However, in his speech, Obama stated: "Tonight, all of our men and women in uniform -- in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world -- must know that they have our respect, our gratitude, and our full support. And just as they must have the resources they need in war, we all have a responsibility to support them when they come home."

Fox, Wash. Times bloggers in disbelief over Obama's "true" SOTU line that he "cut taxes"

In response to Obama's State of the Union assertion that "we cut taxes," live bloggers at foxnews.com and washingtontimes.com reacted with incredulity. However, Obama did cut taxes for most Americans: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 included $288 billion in tax relief.

Lopez on "unpresidential" Obama

On The Corner, Lopez wrote: "I actually try to give the president of the United States the benefit of the doubt. But the blaming of the past administration is pathetically unpresidential. And last week suggests it's a pretty dated line of attack." However, in 1982, President Ronald Reagan devoted significant portions of his speech to attacking President Jimmy Carter's administration for "the situation at this time last year."

Wallace claims Obama "participant ... in building up" trillion-dollar deficits over last year

Previewing Obama's State of the Union address on Fox Broadcasting Co., Chris Wallace asserted that Obama was "a participant in the last year in building up" "multi-trillion-dollar deficits." In fact, the FY 2009 deficit, which totaled $1.4 trillion, was already estimated to be $1.2 trillion when Obama came into office and "virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years" are due either to policies implemented under President Bush or to the recession, which began during Bush's tenure, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

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    • Author by kfraz43 (January 28, 2010 1:44 am ET)
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      In short: "look over here! Shiny object! Don't listen to the president, because then you'll realize that he's actually hit the reset button and taken back the wheel. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! Did you SEE the tie he was wearing? What an ass he is, wearing a tie that was primarily RED... that's OUR COLOR! WE'RE THE RED STATES!"
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    • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 1:44 am ET)
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      I think this best describes the wing nuts right now...
      [http://hurleysashimi.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/crying-baby-party-56800676.jpg]
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      • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (January 28, 2010 6:36 am ET)
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        PERFECT ILLUSTRATION!
        Thanks, Publius 39.
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      • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (January 28, 2010 12:10 pm ET)
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        Exactly correct, best describes the left-wing nuts aka the tea-bagged...
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        • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 1:22 pm ET)
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          That must have taken a lot of energy to come up with. Took you the whole night to respond...
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          • Author by rms (January 28, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
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            Fits his pattern and fits perfectly with the tone of the "twitters" above. Zero despute of the actual content of the President's remarks. What we would expect from the party of, and the supporters of, NO!!
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        • Author by indictgwbush (January 30, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
             
          What left wing!?
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 28, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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        Actually this looks more like Obama talking about Fox News, George Bush, the election in Mass, and the Republican party.
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        • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 1:22 pm ET)
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          You're not even a good troll, please go away and find something constructive to do.
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        • Author by indictgwbush (January 30, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
             
          Yes: the enemies of average americans!!! Faux news, and the repugnican(obstructionist) party!
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    • Author by pilotx (January 28, 2010 2:45 am ET)
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      Must mean he's doing something right. I only wish he and the Dems had made this case months ago before the r.w. goofs took control of the message. Keep the foot on the pedal and don't let up until you see the checkered flag.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 3:02 am ET)
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        All of these comments were written well before the wingnuts heard any of the speech. The GOP has never been more invested in failure.
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        • Author by fantagor (January 28, 2010 6:49 am ET)
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          I, too, maintain an expansive portfolio of failure.

          Funny how its returns of late have seemed to slacken some.

          Randy
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        • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2010 8:11 am ET)
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          That's a big 10-4, Col. Obama says tax cuts, reichswine scowls anyways. They'd cut off their noses to spite their faces...
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          • Author by jarossiter (January 28, 2010 11:09 am ET)
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            They were the wrong TYPE of tax cuts. They went to the middle class, not the rich and corporations.
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        • Author by Jabberwocky (January 28, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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          The country has never been more invested in failure.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:05 pm ET)
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            That's unfair, I know some very progressive rednecks.
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            • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
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              These new trolls don't even know what they are arguing for. Don't waste your time with Jabberwocky, seen it around here a couple of times and there nothing to gain from arguing with it.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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                Believe me, there's no "there" there to argue with. I'm just making fun of the clown.
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      • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (January 28, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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        He has NO messaage, except the the pantybomber is a nigerian student, no mention of terrorist or islamo fascist.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:54 pm ET)
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          ...no mention of terrorist or islamo fascist.


          Also no mention of "smoke 'em out", "stay the course", or "git 'r done!". We had President Larry the Cable Guy for eight years, now the grown-ups are in, you might want to go outside and play with your transformers for a few years.

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          • Author by rms (January 28, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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            No "Bring it on" either, thank God.
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          • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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            hmmmm did mention panty and massage, so perhaps he's trying to complain that Obama doesn't allow Jeff Gannon in the press room anymore. Just luv the confused chestnut "islamo fascist."
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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              This seems to be how wingnuts critique a speech, counting how many times they hear their favorite buzzwords. Obama didn't say "Climategate" even once.

              "Islamofascist" is sort of a golden oldie, I didn't even knoe anybody was still using that one.

              There also seems to be a division on a couple of conflicting talking points - I've seen complaints that Obama talked only about himself and that he only talked about Bush. Probably will see both complaints from the same person.
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      • Author by indictgwbush (January 30, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
           
        Its' not hard to CONTROL the message when their side(corperate america) owns the media.
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    • Author by therecalcitrant (January 28, 2010 2:51 am ET)
         
      Sad, sad, sad... The Republican Party has become the Party of Richard Nixon and Joe McCarthy and Dick Cheney... The worst of the worst.
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    • Author by TBetz (January 28, 2010 6:19 am ET)
         
      Buncha right-wing cowards don't dare write what they really want to say about him -- that he's "uppity".

      As far as I'm concerned, he was showing waaaay too much collegiality toward his former Congressional colleagues.
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    • Author by Ray A (January 28, 2010 7:55 am ET)
         
      I'm sick and tired of the constant vehement outpouring of hate from these guys. It's ugly. It's an abuse of free speech. That kind of speech appeals to the ignorance and hate of venial people everywhere. Their's is the uglyness of hateful arogance.

      As far as I'm concerned they are unworthy of further consideration. Even so, we must all speak out against it.




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    • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 8:15 am ET)
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      It's not any different to how Democrats or liberals reacted to Bush's SOTU addresses. Like you all were so civil towards him after his speech?
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      • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2010 8:24 am ET)
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        I read what you posted, looked at the picture Publius posted, and thought "good call, Publius"...
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 8:44 am ET)
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          That makes no sense in the context of what I said.

          This site is criticizing members of the right for their reaction to Obama's SOTU. What did they expect? I imagine Olbermann gave a stern lecture or two to Bush after his SOTU. What's the difference?
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          • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2010 8:52 am ET)
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            In your own words, "I imagine". You don't know, you just assume it happened to the same extent, including respones by journalists on the networks. The lack of actual knowledge on your part as to whether or not it was the same is the difference here. When you can move beyond false equivelancies you'll have a point...
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 9:40 am ET)
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              Wow. So just because I don't post a link to Olbermann giving one of his world famous lectures to Bush, that negates any point I can make?

              I'm noticing a pattern to the way leftists on this site debate: avoid direct confrontation with logic and challenge everything that isn't backed up with 3 different sources as proof.

              I'll try again. What was the reaction like from the media analysts after the Bush SOTU? Do you honestly think Olbermann applauded and said, "If presidential leadership were only about giving speeches, the jackhammers would already be at work on Mt. Rushmore"?
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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 28, 2010 9:55 am ET)
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                Wow. So just because I don't post a link to Olbermann giving one of his world famous lectures to Bush, that negates any point I can make?

                You haven't made a point, you've made a supposition. It's up to you to back it up. We don't have to do your homework.

                I'm noticing a pattern to the way leftists on this site debate: avoid direct confrontation with logic and challenge everything that isn't backed up with 3 different sources as proof.

                When you get around to making a point, we'll deal with it. It's your side that's notorious for being unwilling or unable to debate.

                I'll try again. What was the reaction like from the media analysts after the Bush SOTU?

                I'll answer it again--go find out for yourself. If all you want to do is deal in guesswork, I'll throw out my own--there was nowhere near the level of superficial vitriol directed at Bush, even though he was much more worthy of it.

                Do you honestly think Olbermann applauded and said, "If presidential leadership were only about giving speeches, the jackhammers would already be at work on Mt. Rushmore"?

                Probably not. After all, Bush was just as inept with his speeches ("put food on their family," anyone?) as he was with his governing.

                Look, MagCynic, there are examples of cheap smears, many of them laden with inaccuracies, from seventeen right-wing media figures above. Why do you think you can pull a hypothetical statement by Olbermann out of thin air and somehow declare that the left is just as bad?

                If you really want better debates on these threads, then for goodness sakes, do your part.
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                • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 10:41 am ET)
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                  With all do respect I shouldn't have to post links to things that you know - or at least should know - to be true. So MMFA posts 17 "cheap smears" from various right-wing sites. Does that mean I have to go back to the last Bush SOTU and find 17 "cheap smears" from various left-wing sites to make a point? I don't have the resources to post archived video of Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, or Maddow posting smears of Bush after the SOTU. Do you doubt that they didn't belittle Bush? Do you doubt that DailyKos, HuffPost, and even MMFA didn't try to smear Bush? Or did Bush deserve it so it makes it ok? Regardless of your answer it's fine for right-wingers to criticize the President just like it was fine for left-wingers to criticize Bush. I don't see why it necessitates an entire posting on MMFA. What's the point? What does it prove?
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                  • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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                    If you're going to make the claim "well, you did it too!" then yes, you have to back it up. Not that it makes what y'all are doing right, but it would be nice to know that you can back up your claims with proof. Jeter, Tommie, Oscar and Wesley can, and they do it without complaining about having to do it...
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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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                      The nutjobs reflexively claim "you did it too" even though nobody did it. It's a defense mechanism for the smears shown above.
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                      • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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                        Let me summarize what I'm saying.

                        Right-wingers criticized Obama's State of the Union speech. MMFA feels it is necessary to post about it in some attempt to prove something. What that something is I'll never know. Is Obama beyond criticism? By "smearing" Obama - if you can call it that - does it ruin conservatives' theory of less government? I think not.

                        Left-wingers criticized Bush's State of the Union speech. I'm not gonna go back and dig up every single posting by Huffington or DailyKos smearing Bush. It's surprising that any of you even doubt that those two sites would smear Bush, but whatever. I will however post this link. It's from 2005 when the Democrats heckled Bush during his SOTU. But, again, what's the point? Who cares? Does it dispute any political ideas on either side? No. Does it make any ground in any sort of political debate? No. Does it score political points for either party? I would say not really.
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                        • Author by DellDolly (January 28, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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                          Rightwingers didn't "criticize" the SOTU speech last night with the comments listed above. They made personal attacks, ad hominem attacks on the President that aren't grounded in reality.

                          You claimed that pundits on the left did similar things. You've yet to provide even a single example of that behavior!

                          The link above isn't even close to documenting similar behavior. It was an objection to the distortions Bush was pushing about Social Security. It was about his behavior, and there's a vast difference between attacking someone's behavior and making an ad hominem attack. There's a difference between expressing accurate disagreement with flawed policy and making fun of someone because you think they've used Botox.

                          One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong.

                          You're simply going to make a allegation, and when a demand is expressed for you to back up your allegation, you're going to refuse to do so.
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                          • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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                            OK. I'll bite. Let me get this straight as to what exactly you want me to source. You want me to cite examples of left-wing members of the media making "personal attacks (and) ad hominem attacks ... on the President that aren't grounded in reality". Is this correct?
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                        • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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                          Are you serious? That was weak. No one yelled "you lie!" or anything, they grumbled, just like the GOP did to Obama at times. Come on, that was weak.
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                  • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 28, 2010 11:41 am ET)
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                    With all do [sic] respect I shouldn't have to post links to things that you know - or at least should know - to be true.

                    Yes, you should have to post them. It's your job to provide the evidence that you're claiming. Your refusal to do so only shows the bankruptcy of your argument.

                    So MMFA posts 17 "cheap smears" from various right-wing sites. Does that mean I have to go back to the last Bush SOTU and find 17 "cheap smears" from various left-wing sites to make a point?

                    Yes. Your original claim was this: "It's not any different to how Democrats or liberals reacted to Bush's SOTU addresses." (my emphasis) Now it's your job to back it up in some way.

                    Furthermore, I said nothing about "various right-wing sites." In fact, at least two of the examples were from broadcasts. I'm starting to wonder if you actually read the article.

                    I don't have the resources to post archived video of Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, or Maddow posting smears of Bush after the SOTU.

                    So you admit you can't prove your point. That's progress, I suppose.

                    Do you doubt that they didn't belittle Bush?

                    Yes, I doubt it. I don't know if Schultz was even a media figure at the time, and Matthews was probably lauding it (he did, after all, say that only "kooks" on the left disliked Bush).

                    Do you doubt that DailyKos, HuffPost, and even MMFA didn't try to smear Bush?

                    Yes. MMFA doesn't smear, they deal with documented facts. As to the others, I couldn't say, since I'm not a regular reader of them. If you likewise aren't, then you can't make the claim, either.

                    Or did Bush deserve it so it makes it ok?

                    You're still trying to use as an argument that which you haven't come close to proving. Also, your childish tone is noted.

                    Regardless of your answer it's fine for right-wingers to criticize the President just like it was fine for left-wingers to criticize Bush.

                    No one ever said it wasn't. There is always a place for legitimate criticism. By all means, let's have some, since the current crop of neocons in the media don't seem capable of it.

                    I don't see why it necessitates an entire posting on MMFA. What's the point? What does it prove?

                    It proves that many media people on the right are using blatant falsehoods and ad hominem argumentation to attack the president. As such, it falls under the umbrella of "conservative misinformation." That's why there's an "entire posting."
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                    • Author by achrispage6992 (January 28, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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                      Your argument seems to be that: unless magcynic gives some links which show liberals engaging in name calling and cheap shots against Bush, then we must assume that it didn't occur. To me, it is ridiculous to demand proof that petty sniping and name calling from liberals did in fact occur against Bush. We all know it did. I distinctly remember him being referred to as a "chimp", arrogant, stupid etc. Please don't think I am defending George W. Bush, because I'm not, but like it or not there were in fact petty insults hurled at him from liberals. To continually deny this is puzzling to me. Do you need a link to prove that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor or if I tell you this, do you accept it as being true?


                      I firmly believe that Bush was far more deserving of criticism than Obama. But let us not pretend that there was this gentelmanly decorum from liberal bloggers and liberal personalities when it came to George Bush. You know its not true, so why do you insist on making the argument that it is?
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                      • Author by DellDolly (January 28, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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                        If someone is making an equivalence argument, then yes, they have an obligation to document that.

                        The fact that there were a few times when a few commentators on the left participated in namecalling doesn't an equivalence make.

                        And your Pearl Harbor analogy falls flat. Apples and oranges. If someone was claiming that the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor was equivalent to what the USA did when they bombed a city, and someone disputed it, then they'd need to provide links to document the similarities that were being alleged!
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                        • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
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                          The fact that there were a few times when a few commentators on the left participated in namecalling doesn't an equivalence make.


                          Clearly you were living in an entirely different world when Bush was President. Really?! You only think it was a few commentators making fun of Bush?
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                          • Author by southerngal (January 28, 2010 1:15 pm ET)
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                            Dolly was not in a different world, she is just a raging hypocrite who will never criticize a Democrat or MMfA.
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                      • Author by southerngal (January 28, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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                        achrispage,

                        You are dead on in your post. Only those who refuse to admit reality ask for proof, they know they are being disingenuous.
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                        • Author by whatIthink (January 28, 2010 2:13 pm ET)
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                          "Only those who refuse to admit reality ask for proof, they know they are being disingenuous."

                          Right, and those that ARE shown proof and ignore it in favor of their partisan views are just willfully ignorant.
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                      • Author by sleepy joe (January 28, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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                        I agree the left did criticize Bush's SOTU. But I really am getting tired of the right's "you did it too so that makes it ok" attitiude. It's silly and childish - never a good excuse after the age of 5.
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                      • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 29, 2010 9:39 am ET)
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                        Your argument seems to be that: unless magcynic gives some links which show liberals engaging in name calling and cheap shots against Bush, then we must assume that it didn't occur.

                        No, achrispage, that's not my argument. MagCynic said that the Democratic response was not any different (his words) than what the Republicans are doing now. He has been challenged to provide evidence, and has come up empty. I have never said that there was no criticism of Bush, or anything like it.

                        To me, it is ridiculous to demand proof that petty sniping and name calling from liberals did in fact occur against Bush. We all know it did.

                        Fine, but again, that's not the point I made, right ON's empty cheerleading notwithstanding.
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                    • Author by angels4light (January 30, 2010 12:05 am ET)
                         
                      As I recall, there was quite a bit of noise from people about "Bush-isms" - which to me is an ad hominem attack. I am not in any way suggesting that what was pointed out in the article is right, should have been done, or should even be tolerated - I am merely pointing out that there are those on both sides of the aisle who have nothing better to do than attack without substance, though I am seeing a good bit more of it from the "right" than I did from the "left".
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                  • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 11:58 am ET)
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                    You do have the resources, its called the google. You can find all sorts of things with it. MMFA wouldn't "smear" the President as it is not nor ever has been a news media site, but rather a media watchdog site.
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                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 2:00 pm ET)
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                    You are pretending as if all criticism is the same, Mag. It is not. If you could get past your partisanship and use a little critical thinking, this would be apparent to you. Using facts and examples to criticize someone is fine. Honest criticism is not only expected, but necessary. Saying what someone says is meaningless because of their tie is childish and should be beneath the criticisms in an adult debate. Get it?
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              • Author by NothingButTheTruth (January 28, 2010 10:37 am ET)
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                Honestly, even though I think many of Bush's criticisms came after he committed his tomfoolery and not before (see: WMDs, Medicare, etc), Liberals weren't the kindest to Bush's SOTU addresses either.

                I just have to ask how many of these Conservative flippant responses yesterday are reflexive of that, and how much is genuine. I ask, because much of what I hear Conservatives angry about is what they perceive to be happening, while ignoring what is actually happening.
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                • Author by MagCynic (January 28, 2010 10:44 am ET)
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                  Name some examples and I'll see if I can give a conservative take on it.
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              • Author by Ruby (January 28, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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                If anyone wants to challenge something the president said in his speech, that's great. Go right ahead. I welcome that kind of thing. Factual criticism of policy or whatever, that's awesome. Calling him "arrogant" or vain or calling Pelosi ugly...that's nothing. That detracts from the national conversation.

                For the record, I think Keith Olbermann is very intelligent and I sometimes really respect his analysis. HOWEVER, that dude is completely melodramatic and makes an ass of himself way too often. It's not uncommon that he derides a conservative for engaging in namecalling and then turns around and does it himself. So yeah. I, personally, do not look to Keith Olbermann as any example of helpful political discourse.
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                • Author by southerngal (January 28, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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                  Good points Ruby. I don't watch Olbermann or any of them, because it's like being at a pep rally for ideologues. Boring.

                  As for Obama, great. I think a president who is a little arrogant and cocky is a good thing. I want confidence, that comes across to some as arrogant. I want determination, and to some that is cocky. Better than milquetoast tread-lightly politicians who are afraid to ruffle anyone's feathers.
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                  • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 28, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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                    I think a president who is a little arrogant and cocky is a good thing. I want confidence, that comes across to some as arrogant. I want determination, and to some that is cocky. Better than milquetoast tread-lightly politicians who are afraid to ruffle anyone's feathers.

                    Well put! I'll take Obama's "arrogance" over the uninspiring Mondale/Dukakis/Harry Reid type any day.
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                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 2:06 pm ET)
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                    I just wish Obama would display some of that arrogance a little more often. There is no way G-Dub and Bill Frist would still be pu$$y-footing around if they wanted legislation passed. And they certainly did not need some magic number of 60 to make it happen.
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                    • Author by southerngal (January 28, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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                      It's why I maintain that Democrats have a hard time governing. Because they have so many vocal special interest groups that help get them elected that often times pending legislation cannot satisfy all of them, so they sit. Look at the spending freeze, the far left won't have any part of that. Nuclear energy, same thing. Obama needs to tell them all to go take a hike and govern for all the people, if they don't like it, too bad. That is where I'd like to seem some cocky arrogance.
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                      • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 2:47 pm ET)
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                        And the publikuns have no vocal special interest groups they have to listen to? Pending legislation is sittig now because the publikuns are blocking everything proposed by the dems at this point. I bet you don't remember that Al Gore, supposedly the champion of the far-left, stated in the 2000 election that Nuclear energy was a good way to cut down on our dependance on foreign oil
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                      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 29, 2010 5:39 pm ET)
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                        You might be right. You make a good point about the special interests. It can be better that the entire party is not in lockstep like the Republicans. Having no dissent got them to pass anything G-Dub wanted and drove us off the cliff. I think it is fine for him to try and please some of the people with compromise. But, for those on the left and right that refuse to compromise at all - steamroll 'em. Call their bluff. Let's see Lieberman or Bayh or anyone else actually get up and talk for hours on end in order to keep people from getting health coverage. Let's see it!
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                • Author by Ination (January 28, 2010 11:40 am ET)
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                  KO can be very annoying with a lot of his criticisms. My problem with him is that he sounds way too much like the people he judges and publicly ridicules. He might be intelligent but he needs to show it by participating in an actual debate on his program, not just having some pundit that already agrees with him.
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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:36 pm ET)
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                    Olbermann can be pretty melodramatic at times, but I do watch some of the more straight report and interview parts of his show when I can. I like Maddow better, but KO still reports quite a bit that isn't touched on mainstream tv news.

                    And I wish KO would quit abusing the phrase "begging the question", that's just a pet peeve of mine.
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                • Author by kalentros (January 28, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
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                  That's what made it so funny when Jon Stewart ripped into Olbermann. He was dead accurate in saying that Olbermann has been going over the top too often lately.
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                  • Author by DellDolly (January 28, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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                    And Olbermann acknowledged that he had been over the top, and did so with humility.
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                    • Author by pilotx (January 28, 2010 4:47 pm ET)
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                      Exactly, he apologizes and makes corrections when appropriate. I have NEVER heard Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly or Rush apologoze for anything. And the sad part is Hannity regularly uses disproven facts as talking points quite regularly.
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              • Author by trelan1701 (January 28, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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                I'm noticing a pattern to the way leftists on this site debate: avoid direct confrontation with logic and challenge everything that isn't backed up with 3 different sources as proof.

                Ummmm, challenge = direct confrontation. Like right now.

                The reason we demand you back up your assertions/accusations/whatevers is that conservatives are notorious for making up stuff whole cloth. Liberals tend to deal with facts and reality, not "my gut." So when you say things like "the left did exactly the same thing!", we scratch our head, think "Pointless personal insults instead of critiquing policy? That doesn't sound right..." We want proof. Otherwise we chalk it up to usual conservative lies and ignore it.

                You want to be taken seriously? Bring the proof or risk having your (possibly) valid point dismissed out of hand.
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                • Author by DellDolly (January 28, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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                  That's the point - that these comments listed above are pointless personal insults versus comments critiquing policy.
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              • Author by TX (January 28, 2010 2:35 pm ET)
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                Don't forget -- when you make a valid, correct point about something they can't dispute...they instantly go to calling you names. It's the sure way to know you won the argument.
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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              In your own words, "I imagine". You don't know...


              Snoop, you've gotta give some points for sheer cheekiness here. Do you understand the precedent Mag was trying to set here, and how that would have affected wingnut debaters everywhere, had it gone unnoticed ?

              All future Items could go like this;

              MMFA: Conservatives did [X] (backed with documentation)

              Wingnut : Well, I imagine liberals did it too.
              Let's call it a draw.

              Extra points for reacting to having this pointed out by accusing others of avoiding logic.
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          • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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            Sten lecture is one thing, but calling the President a Jerk, or arrogant and making cracks on how the Speaker looks are another.
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      • Author by pilotx (January 28, 2010 9:10 am ET)
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        Well look at the results. Bush ruined this country and set us on this partisan divide. Blame Rove and Bush himself for ramming legislation through and the Repubs for actually locking Dems out of committee meetings. Conservatives have to take at least part of the blame for this back and forth. When did Bush EVER take his party to task? When did a member of house yell out at Bush?
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      • Author by TripleD30 (January 28, 2010 11:00 am ET)
           
        You know what I hate about the people who come on here and say all of us couldn't wait to bash Bush? They act like from the day George Bush took office all the Dem's and lib's were all over him. Does the right not remember that Bush had approval ratings in the high 80's after 9/11/01? Do they forget that he maintained a positive approval rating yrs after? Only after Bush, Cheney, and Rove started getting exposed for all the crooked politics, did the AMERICAN PUBLIC turn on him. Yes. It started with the Dem's calling him out, but the anger grew and grew and grew as the yrs went on, until it effected both Dem's and Repub's anger levels. The Country turned on Bush for being the worst President in modern history, and it took 5 yrs of crooked politics for us to turn on him! You people on the right turned on Obama the moment he was elected, and haven't even bothered giving him a couple yrs of support so he can get our country back on track! Thats petty!
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      • Author by indictgwbush (January 30, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
           
        Why be civil towards a piece of fecal matter who all but wiped his butt with the U.S. Constitution.
        Remember his "constituency"; The "Haves and the Have mores"?
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 28, 2010 8:19 am ET)
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      I'm getting sick and tired of hearing conservtaives talk about taxesa and spending and deficits. Reagan, Bush'41 and Bush'43 ran up HUGE deficits, every year being record breaking at the time, and none made ANY effort to reign in spending AT ALL. CLINTON and CARTER both had multiple years budget surpluses, and Obama HAS, in fact, cut taxes for 90-some% of America while signing no legislation himself to raise anyone's INCOME taxes. Or indeed ANY tax that isn't avoidable! (Don't give me that nonsense about Cig taxes!) The Tax increases that are likely to come in the next year or two were all written buy the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS and signed into law by GEORGE W. BUSH back in 2001. The Right has NO CREDABILITY on fiscal matter WHATSOEVER, and there's not a single data point or historical perspective that says otherwise.

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      I am really sick of hearing this tripe from them.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 28, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
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        Did any of them raise the debt ceiling to 14 TRILLION like Barry Obama? He's so pathetic. He can't even hold his own party in line. Held a Supermajority and couldnt do anything with it and then lost it. What an arrogant, arrogant little man.
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        • Author by peebs755 (January 28, 2010 1:06 pm ET)
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          They each raised the debt ceiling to whatever they needed at the time. So Obama isn't doing anything that his successors didn't do.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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            And none of them entered office after eight years of Bush and the worst economy of our lifetimes. Small detail there.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 2:08 pm ET)
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          Poor seahawks, he think this is the first time they have raised the debt ceiling. He must be new to this country and its politics.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 28, 2010 11:23 pm ET)
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          Has Obama broken that ceiling TWELVE YEARS IN A ROW? That's what Reagan and Bush the Elder did. Did he breat the ceiling one year after inherting a record surplus? Did he follow that up by breaking THAT ceiling eight years in a row like Bush the Idiot did? Dude, seriously, STFU. If you think the Right has any standing or credability left to discuss fiscal responsibility... HISTORY FAIL, big time.

          Talk to me when the economy's booming again, and we'll see. I'll buy you a Coke if the deficit isn't reduced significantly in that year. You see... Bush had good economic years and bad ones. It's no vice to run a deficit, even a record one, in a recession. But to run one when the economy is booming, or AT A MINIMUM to not REDUCE it significantly and work towards a surplus (as both Carter and Clinton did, in MULTIPLE YEARS) yeah... THAT'S inexcusable.

          Bush did it EVERY year, good or bad, up or down. If Obama not trying to right things once the economy's back on track then FINE, I'll grant you that he's as bad as the last THREE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS in that department.

          Just remember that the last two Presidents to balance thier budgets were both Democrats - one did it lean years (that's Carter, and the results show why that's a bad idea, when your in a recession!) and the other, Clinton, show how it's done in good years.

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          But until your grasp of Macroeconimics is better than your handle on recent history (1976-2008) I don't want to hear YOU complaining about the deficit.
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    • Author by manofmystique (January 28, 2010 8:47 am ET)
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      Jealousy, envy and stupidity all roll into one and it's no surprise.
      Obama's State of the Union speech was magnificent as most of his speeches are. Those who have a problem with Obama's ability to deliver the goods could never match his skills, or come close, yet like Martin Lawrence once said, "critics criticize people for things they can't do".
      Republicans and conservative are so predictable; we all knew they would find fault with Obama no matter what he says. True to form these idiots did just what is expected of a childish mind.
      It was refreshing to hear Obama tell these Republicans bastards that "voting against everything may be short term politics, but it is not leadership". This was absolutely POWERFUL and it was something that needed to be said. It will be lost on these defiant Republicans because they are filled with hate.
      Anyone who would support or follow a party that betrays democracy and their responsibility as elected officials are FOOLS. They are putting politics and their own ambitions ahead of the American people.
      Republicans do not engage Obama and the Democrats, constructively, because they want the President to fail. Is this not un-American?
      Folks its far time we stop letting those with evil intent define our President. You know who they are by now. Rightwing pundits, conservatives and Republicans have shown us what they are willing to do to undermine, discredit and criticize this president. This includes making up things and outright lying.
      There is no excuse for letting these devious haters confuse, misrepresent or mislead you any more about Obama. All you have to do is judge him for yourself. Your good book of guidance (Bible, Koran) tells you to judge a man by his character and deeds. You are equipped to do that on your own (common sense). Speak truth to power.
      Obama is no where close to what he is portrayed in the conservative media.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 28, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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        Well said. I'm with you 100%! Excellent post!

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        IMHO
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      • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (January 28, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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        Awesome!
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      • Author by foresyte (January 28, 2010 9:50 am ET)
           
        Hear, hear!
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 28, 2010 10:01 am ET)
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        Martin Lawrence once said, "critics criticize people for things they can't do".

        Very good--and great post, by the way--but I prefer this observation by Brendan Behan: "Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
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      • Author by PurpleState (January 28, 2010 10:16 am ET)
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        I'm voting up for the Martin Lawrence quote alone.
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      • Author by Jabberwocky (January 28, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        The speech sent a tingle up my leg.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 28, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        So just how big is the alter of Obama in your bedroom? Do you have a big picture hanging in your livivng room? I bet you even bought the collector plates.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:45 pm ET)
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          Haha, good one seahawks. You should ask why he doesn't marry Obama, then throw a dirt clod, that would really be cool.
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    • Author by sloucho84 (January 28, 2010 9:35 am ET)
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      "Obama looks arrogant, whether he's arrogant or not. I don't think he can help it: It's the upturned chin. When actors want to preen and so on: They turn that chin upward. Yikes."

      I'm surprised they didn't use the word "uppity".
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    • Author by PurpleState (January 28, 2010 10:15 am ET)
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      Should Michael Goldfarb, of all people, be accusing Obama of lying?

      "Rick, I think we all know who #2 is."
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    • Author by kalentros (January 28, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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      Ad hominem attacks....check.

      Overlooking speech substance for false talking points....check.

      Ben Stein reminding the rest of us why his career peaked with "Bueller....Bueller....Bueller"......check.

      Showing signs that a President using words bigger than five letters and two syllables causes head to explode......check.

      Well....I see that the right's doing all of these. Guess that proves it. That was a damn successful State of the Union.
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      • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (January 28, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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        hmmm an interesting definition of "successful"... in what regard trying to pivot to the center while appeasing the left-wing nuts? or successful in stating it's "all about me"... forget those two police officers (in the audience) that actually DID something to protect our citizend... hmmm.... pathetic...

        I fail to understand why BHO wants to charge "banks" for unrecovered tarp funds(especially those that have paid back the (forced) loan, with interest", but neglects fannie, freddie, aig GM hmmm... pathetic.
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        • Author by hamroad (January 28, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
             
          ,,,"I fail to understand..."
          Yes it is true. YOU DO FAIL.
          You are on here constantly, but have YET to make a valid criticism.
          Calling everyone with whom you disagree "pathetic" is not an argument: it's a child on the kindergarten playground calling others names.
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    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 28, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
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      That speech was pathetic. It was all about him. I only wish Joe Wilson had spoken up again. The way he blamed President Bush for everything reminded me of a four year old at a playground -- "I know you are but what am I". He should have thanked GWB for keeping us safe for eight years.

      If Obama were even remotely serious about deficit reduction he would cancel the remaining unspent portion of the political slush fund known as the stimulus bill. His "freeze" does not even constitute a drop in the bucket.

      THis is classic Cloward-Piven. He is intentionally trying to drive us into bankrupcy. He is still trying to foist a government takeover of healthcare and cap & tax on us. Note to Obama, "global warming" has been debunked, move onto your next fraudulent conspiracy.
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      • Author by allanbrauer (January 28, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
           
        Tell Kenneth the Page we're all sorry his career was destroyed BEFORE the Pubs thought up the audience gimmick. Sucks to be him. Sucks to be you even more, huh?
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:48 pm ET)
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        He should have thanked GWB for keeping us safe for eight years.


        There's a lot of BS in your post, but it's all dwarfed by your dismissal of the death of thousands of Americans on 9/11/2001. You make me sick.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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          Bush kept us safe by creating more terrorists and failing to capture bin Laden?

          Up is down. Black is white. War is peace. I think I understand now.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        Wow. Bobby here thinks 9/11 happened on Clinton's watch. Sad, sad, very sad. How far does the right have to distort reality to blame everything they have screwed up on the Democrats? It is amazing to watch.
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      • Author by pilotx (January 28, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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        Global warming has been debunked? That's news to climate scientists. Now, the people who really know something about the atmosphere are still studying the effects increased levels of CO2 will have on the climate but if you want to believe Rush and Sean and others who don't even have a college degree then that's fine but the rest of us will continue to monitor the progress of those who are qualified to make such observations. On another note should we also thank Bush for not capturing Bin Laden and totally destroying the economy as well as our standing in the world? Gotta take the good with the bad. Seems conservatives either A. claim Bush wasn't a really a conservative or B. forget his record low approval rating.
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        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 28, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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          "Global warming" is a hoax. It is a scam. It is a backdoor ruse to impose socialism. The enviro-whackos are watermelons -- green on the outside, but red on the inside.

          A group of communist thought it up as a means to attack private industry and redistribute wealth. The earth is not warming. This is a complete lie.
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          • Author by PurpleState (January 28, 2010 7:32 pm ET)
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            Of course it's a lie. We Americans are great at lying! Americans...can do...ANYTHING.
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          • Author by pilotx (January 28, 2010 11:02 pm ET)
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            Do you actually know any climate scientists? Are you a climate scientist yourself or is this idea of yours based on an uneducated opinion. Who exactly are you listening to. BTW, most climatologists refer to the complex issue of climate change as "global climate variation" which is real. There is debate about how much is natural and how much is caused by our actions but there have not been any case closed moments like you are referring to. Then again your screen name reflects a man who believes the earth was "made" in 7 days and questions the science of volcano monitoring. Very telling.
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            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 28, 2010 11:34 pm ET)
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              Because the earth is not warming you took "global warming" and rebranded it as "climate change" to deflect attention away from the fact that the earth is not warming.

              I trust scientists like Dr. Roy Spencer, Dr. Bjorn Lomborg, and Dr. Christopher Horner who all say it is a hoax.

              The climate-gate emails prove that your side is complely making it up. It is time to move on to your next hoax, because the gig is up on this one.

              Earth made in seven "days". How do we know how long a day is. Perhaps a day is 24 hours, perhaps in God's time a "day" could be 100,000 years.
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              • Author by allanbrauer (January 29, 2010 2:24 am ET)
                   
                On our planet, a day is 24 hours. YMMV.
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              • Author by mary59 (January 29, 2010 9:58 am ET)
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                Boy that's some pretty great proof you've got there. You trust the scientists that support your beliefs.

                The earth IS warming. The warming causes severe WEATHER, including extreme cold. It has to do with ocean currents. You seriously need to read credible sites on this.

                I really wish people would stop putting gate on everything they think is a scandal. Their e-mails didn't prove anything, except to the uninformed eager to deny climate change.

                Don't think the Bible needs to be defended. Yes, a "day" can be an eon. A lot of the Old Testament is symbolic.
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                • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 29, 2010 3:04 pm ET)
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                  OK, here's the deal. After Ronaldus Magnus destroyed the USSR, Russia did not have the money to finance all of their temperature monitoring stations. There were hundreds of temperature monitoring stations in Siberia that were off-line for the 1990s. When you subtract Siberian stations, the global mean temperature will obviously rise.

                  In the 2000s the government of Russia brought these stations back on-line and the global mean temperature returned to its historic average.

                  This was probably done intentionally to perpetrate teh scam. The Communists seek redistribution of wealth. THey conspired to make it appear that mean global temperatures were rising in order to create a pretext for global socialism.

                  The earth is not warming - it is a hoax and a scam.
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          • Author by rms (January 30, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
               
            Bobby J: "Global warming" is a hoax. It is a scam. It is a backdoor ruse to impose socialism. The enviro-whackos are watermelons -- green on the outside, but red on the inside.

            This from someone who didn't realize that 9-11 happened during Bush's tenure. Lot's of credibility here...

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    • Author by allanbrauer (January 28, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
         
      Loved this post so much I based a blog entry on it here. Good work rounding up the usual suspects!
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    • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (January 28, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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      Either BHO learns like JFK or he's going down the rabbit hole like jimmy carter.... my bet is on the rabbit hole.... a less than mediocre 1 term president...
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      • Author by mary59 (January 29, 2010 10:02 am ET)
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        You know, Jimmy Carter was less effective because people such as yourself. You like facades such as Reagan produced instead of substance, which was what Carter was and is about. Yes, Carter isn't as good at stagecraft. Sorry that so many people would rather look at the show and ignore reality.
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    • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (January 28, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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      I did however fail to give BHO credit where credit is due.

      He kinda expressed support for nuclear power and drilling for OIL... hmmm... not-pathetic....
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      • Author by Johaely (January 28, 2010 5:05 pm ET)
           
        Because using non-renueable sources will fix the energy crisis, yep...stop saying pathetic.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (January 28, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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      Oh yes that was the best STOU i've ever seen. It was all I, I , I, I and did I say I yet?
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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        I thought he spent all his time talking about Bush. But you're mad that he talked about himself ?

        Try to get your talking points straight, zombies.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
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        Ah, interesting. So, he talked about G-Dub too much. No, he talked about himself too much. So, he should have talked about the state of our country without mentioning anything that has happened over the last decade that either he or his predecessor was involved with? Perhaps, if he would have just talked about a horrid professional football team in the Northwest, you would be happy. Snap out of it. Your constant listening to Fox News and hate radio has poisoned your brain.
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        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 28, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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          He should just admit that he is in over his head and resign.
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          • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2010 4:28 pm ET)
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            You do? Jindal should resign? And I thought you were a Bobby Jindal fan!
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            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (January 29, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
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              Jindal is a Rhodes Scholar with a long resume. Obama is a community organizer who has never held a private sector job.
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          • Author by Johaely (January 28, 2010 5:07 pm ET)
               
            Resign, why? He hasn't done anything illegal, and being a "socialist" is not illegal in this country.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 29, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
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            I'm not going to argue with you, Bobby. Jindal certainly looked over his head the last time when he gave the rebuttal. If you feel Bobby Jindal should resign I will agree with you.
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      • Author by PurpleState (January 28, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
        3  
        It was an awesome State The Of Union?
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    • Author by Jabberwocky (January 28, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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      The right-wing response to Obama's SOTU address: "jerk," "arrogant," cocky"


      I thought those words were reserved for Bush. That's unfar to use them on Obama.
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      • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
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        Actually, there's a lot of folk who deserve those accolades...GW certainly could share. They don't really fit Obama, but right wing nuts are good at projection.
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    • Author by hamroad (January 28, 2010 1:04 pm ET)
         
      ... "blaming of the past administration is pathetically unpresidential"...
      Amazing charge: yet President Reagan WAS 'presidential,' right? But Reagan did nothing but blame President Carter in HIS first SOTU. Repub's are STILL blaming Carter, CONSTANTLY harping about how "Carter was the worst president..." blah, blah, blah.
      As to President Obama being "cocky" and "arrogant," what could possibly be the point? These were two of the most treasured attributes of their ongoing love affair with President GW Bush!! So the President must do this heinous thing with his face during those periods when he is not being "pedantic and professorial," right? Yet whenever President Obama is polite or considerate of another culture, whenever he behaves with modesty; he is assailed as "apologising to the entire world"?!?!
      In the words of conservatives following every election in which a repubic candidate wins: "GET OVER IT! AN ELECTION WAS HELD... YOU LOST!!"
      When well neo-cons, stop the endless fount of pathetic, hyperbolic, hypocracy? Typical conservative transferrance and projection.
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    • Author by me ne frego (January 28, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
         
      I thought he had a plan. I was looking forward to Transparency, and really believed Health Care could be improved.
      Another Stimulus?
      Written by the same guys that gave us 17% unemployeement?
      If he want a fight, we will fight for our Country!
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    • Author by ProgLib (January 28, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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      These people are so hateful and ignorant. I can understand MagCynic's point about the left doing the same with Bush's past SOTU's, but these people criticizing Obama on his SOTU are lying and claiming he did or said things that are not factual. It's as simple as that... the facts are not there, and these idiots need to spew their talking points to avoid fact checking.
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      • Author by Johaely (January 28, 2010 5:08 pm ET)
           
        Their "critiques" simply show that they didn't hear the SOU in general. It seems like if they wrote it before the speech and just posted it after it finished.
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    • Author by Llovebins (January 28, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
         
      Who cares! what these right wingers have to say any!

      mediamatters, please pass/spread this link to others. This is good news on healthcare bill.

      Thanks & keep up the good work.

      http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_53508788-0b88-11df-99e6-001cc4c002e0.html
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    • Author by politeradical (January 28, 2010 8:28 pm ET)
         
      I'd prefer "cocky and snide" as opposed to "rambling" "incoherent" or "wrong on EVERYTHING" like the last guy.

      Methinx the wingnut pundits are really intimidated by a President who can speak in complete sentences.
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