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Quick Fact: Palin falsely suggested health reform would increase deficit, denied Obama cut taxes

January 29, 2010 7:07 am ET — 23 Comments

Fox News contributor Sarah Palin falsely suggested in a January 28 Facebook post that Democrats' health care reform plans would increase the deficit and that President Obama has not cut taxes. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated that the health care reform bills passed by both the House and Senate would reduce federal deficits through 2019 and beyond, and the recovery act signed into law by Obama included $288 billion in tax relief.

In response to State of the Union address, Palin suggests health reform would increase deficit, denies Obama cut taxes

From Palin's January 28 Facebook post:

[Obama] dared us to "let him know" if we have a better health care plan, but he refused to allow Republicans in on the negotiations or consider any ideas for real free market and patient-centered reforms. We've been "letting him know" our ideas for months from the town halls to the tea parties, but he isn't interested in listening. Instead he keeps making the nonsensical claim that his massive trillion-dollar health care bill won't increase the deficit.

Americans are suffering from job losses and lower wages, yet the president practically demanded applause when he mentioned tax cuts, as if allowing people to keep more of their own hard-earned money is an act of noblesse oblige. He claims that he cut taxes, but I must have missed that. I see his policies as paving the way for massive tax increases and inflation, which is the "hidden tax" that most hurts the poor and the elderly living on fixed incomes.

FACT: CBO estimated that health reform bills would reduce deficits over next 10 years and beyond

CBO: Senate bill yields "a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion" over 10 years. On December 19, 2009, CBO reported of the Senate bill incorporating the manager's amendment:

CBO and JCT estimate that the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act incorporating the manager's amendment would yield a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion over the 2010-2019 period.

CBO also estimated on December 20, 2009, that the bill will continue to reduce the deficit beyond the 10-year budget window that ends in 2019 "with a total effect during that decade that is in a broad range between one-quarter percent and one-half percent of GDP."

CBO estimated the House bill will result in $138 billion in deficit reduction through 2019. On November 20, 2009, CBO reported of the House health care reform legislation, "CBO and JCT now estimate that the legislation would yield a net reduction in deficits of $138 billion over the 10-year period." CBO also stated in its November 6 estimate that "[i]n the subsequent decade, the collective effect of its provisions would probably be slight reductions in federal budget deficits. Those estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty."

FACT: The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act included $288 billion in tax relief

Recovery act included significant tax relief for individuals, families, and businesses. As Media Matters for America has noted, the recovery act contained $288 billion in tax relief, including the Making Work Pay tax credit, a two-year annual credit of $400 per individual or $800 for families. In addition, the recovery act included a temporary increase in the earned income tax credit, a temporary increase in the refundable portion of the child tax credit, an increase in the first-time homebuyer tax credit, and tax incentives for businesses.

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    • Author by bludog1 (January 29, 2010 7:26 am ET)
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      What is missing from this discussion is that no one believes the assumptions that the majority has built into the draft conference report submitted to CBO. However, the CBO is obligated to treat those assumptions as "fact" in its consideration of the impact of the proposed legislation. When you look at the history in Congress (both parties) of the accuracy of its assumptions to justify legislation, you see that history is bad to terrible. So I do not have confidence in these assumptions or the resulting impact statement put forth by CBO.
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        • Author by wesley (January 29, 2010 9:31 am ET)
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          -- you're like any of these party of no politicians -- punkin

          Here's what Pres.Obama says about the policy of saying no:

          -- the first couple of years that I was in the Senate, the Republicans controlled the agenda, which meant that most of those votes are votes against efforts by the Republicans on issues that I feel very strongly about. So I have no problem defending a record of saying, no --
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          • Author by At_odds (January 30, 2010 1:59 am ET)
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            Yes, but a whole party saying no on everything when such liberal efforts have been made to move to the middle. Not one conservative after all the discussions has made any real contribution. Not one has done anything to fix health care. And we have had 20 years to fix it. Tort reform? Opening state lines? A few pages of last minute thoughts to have something to show the people that "Yes, they care too." What a weak attempt at showing initiative.
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      • Author by whatthehell (January 30, 2010 1:31 am ET)
           
        This is the most intelligent post I have ever read on this site.
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    • Author by goesto11 (January 29, 2010 9:20 am ET)
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      It's easy to miss deficit reduction and billions in tax relief when you have your head up your a**.
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    • Author by wesley (January 29, 2010 9:27 am ET)
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      -- House bill will result in $138 billion in deficit reduction through 2019 -- mmfa

      Just another example of our govt. over-promising and destined to under-perform.

      Heck, our govt. can't even accomplish the simple task of building a border fence. The fence was authorized in 2005 and it's still not complete.

      It's ludicrous to believe that they can successfully risk a trillion dollars to fix health care when they can't even construct a privacy fence.
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      • Author by anonymiss (January 29, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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        How long do you think it should take to build a 2,000 mile long fence? For it to be finished in 5 years, they'd have to build about a mile of fence per day. Do you think that's reasonable? That's 5,000 feet of fence every 8 or 9 hours. Yeah, when you put it that way, maybe 5 years to "accomplish the simple task of building a border fence" isn't so long, after all?
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        • Author by wesley (January 29, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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          Pres.Kennedy announced in 1961 our goal of putting a man on the moon...and it was accomplished in 1969.

          If we could land a man on the surface of the moon in 8 years...I think a couple of years is sufficient to build a fence.
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          • Author by vhw28672478 (January 29, 2010 11:50 am ET)
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            you are wrong building a fence will not work
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          • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
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            But there weren't any Moon Men sneaking onto the LEM, looking for jobs. Different set of circumstances.
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          • Author by fleetw1978 (January 30, 2010 10:33 am ET)
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            Build a 50 foot fence and someone will build a 52 foot ladder. DUH!! Have you ever heard of a tunnel?? Simple solutions generally come from simple minded people.
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 29, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
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        You dishonest weasel.

        If we do nothing, we'll spend (in your words, "risk") MORE than if we pass either one of the bills currrently being considered.

        Dishonest weasel, Wesley.
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    • Author by markbfoot199 (January 29, 2010 9:56 am ET)
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      I would like for you all here to show me any government social program that has not cost us Billions of Dollars. This is a lie, they would collect money for 3 to 4 years before real benefits kick in, then the next 6 years gets to use the money from those years. After year 10, then what? Now that Healthcare is on hold, why not go after the fraud in Medicare first? Then lets look at tort reform and cross state line competition.
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      • Author by wesley (January 29, 2010 10:05 am ET)
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        Amen...brother Ben.

        Tackling fraud should be an ongoing, every day job for our elected officials...not passing more and more onerous legislation and then walking away from their responsibilities.

        The untold horrors that would arise from trying to implement a 2000 page health care law would rival the IRS tax code.
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        • Author by anonymiss (January 29, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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          Except the IRS tax code is about 22 times longer than the health care bill. And actually, when condensed and printed like a regular book, the health care bill is a measly 200 pages compared to 44,000 pages of tax code (and growing). But yeah, 200 pages really rivals 44,000, doesn't it?
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        • Author by anonymiss (January 29, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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          Except the IRS tax code is about 22 times longer than the health care bill. And actually, when condensed and printed like a regular book, the health care bill is a measly 200 pages compared to 44,000 pages of tax code (and growing). But yeah, 200 pages really rivals 44,000, doesn't it?
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        • Author by vhw28672478 (January 29, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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          You are wrong
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      • Author by At_odds (January 30, 2010 2:42 am ET)
           
        How about the fact that in 2000 government programs totaled to less than the total revenue (giving us a surplus)? And your benefit complaint doesn't take into account that some items go into effect immediately and a lot money is being used to transition to this system. Funny that even after 10 years the CBO predicts a surplus between revenue and govt health expenditure also. If we go after fraud why don't we go after the fraud that actually equates to something substantial and hurts the people. Something like regulating the insurance industry. Selling across state lines, as the conservatives want it, would result in reduced benefits and according to the CBO, 5% or less decrease in average costs. But we would have even less regulation than we currently have (so a lot more unfair insurance practices). Additionally, the cost of living differences in different states would result in inequalities. Do you really think that opening state lines would increase competition to the point that every insurance company will just drop their rates and unfair practices? Do you honestly think that the competition contained in an entire state is not enough to let the invisible hand do all the possible work it can do? Do you realize that by opening state lines, yes you open up more options for consumers, but you also open more demand from consumers in the same proportion? Oh and by the way, state lines are opened somewhat in the democrat plan (there is just regulation in place to protect consumers). This is just a ploy to deregulate, which this decade has proved can and will screw over the consumer. But at least companies wont have anything to worry about.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (January 29, 2010 10:10 am ET)
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      Well let's see.....I bought a new storm door for $300 last year and I got a $90 tax credit for that. I also bought some caulk and weather stripping and I get a 30% credit on that. I also see where the xtra 800 I got during the year in less withholding is added to my total withholding for the year, thus showing an $800 savings in tax for 2009. Seems to me I am paying $900 less in taxes than what I would have paid had it not been for the stim bill. Far be it for me to turn down 900 bucks. Thank you Mr. Obama.
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      • Author by anonymiss (January 29, 2010 11:16 am ET)
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        I was starting to think maybe I was the only one who got some new tax breaks this year! I concur, thank you Mr. Obama!

        Making work pay tax credit: $600 refunded plus $20 less withholding from each pay check since April '09

        American Opportunity tax credit (for college students with qualified expenses) - $5000 for 2 students

        Looking forward to taking a credit for energy efficient improvements we're making this year, too!
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    • Author by clearstate (January 29, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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      We've been "letting him know" our ideas for months from the town halls to the tea parties, but he isn't interested in listening."


      The only things that we've heard from the town halls and tea party events are Obama is a socialist, a marxist, a communist, an un-documented citizen, a nazi, and a witch doctor. Where in that mix are ideas on how to fix health care???

      Nice try. You should spend more of your time trying to explain to your tea party buddies why they should pay you $100,000 just to speak to them. What happened to the average hard working Americans who don't have a lot of money? Each ticket, just to hear you speak, is over $300 and another $500 or so for the lobster and steak dinner at the resort. Sister Sarah only pretends to care about the average American as long as she gets a big pay check out of it.
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 29, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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        Obama is talking to the Republican caucus right now, and they are asking him questions right now, but he gave an opening address, and he clearly told them to stop with the false charges that he isn't willing to listen to other ideas. He specifically mentioned 3 fairly major things that were incorporated into the health care reform bills due to Republican input.

        And I thought that Palin's take from this event was $150,000, not $100,000.
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    • Author by clearstate (January 29, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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      Hannity still spouts the crap that there is no Republican input in either health care bill and that they've been locked out of every meeting even though they both have amendments from Republicans.

      Yeah, $150,000 sounds a lot better. Either way, she's only doing it for the money. She doesn't care about the tea party people, as long as they keep donating money to the Republican Party.
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