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Media conservatives falsely claim Obama's Supreme Court criticism was "unprecedented"

January 29, 2010 10:18 am ET — 48 Comments

Right-wing media are attacking President Obama for his criticism of the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC during the State of the Union, calling it "unprecedented" and accusing the president of "intimidation." In fact, Obama's comments were not "unprecedented"; Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have previously used the State of the Union to criticize judicial actions, including those of the Supreme Court.

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Right-wing media accuse Obama of "intimidation" in "unprecedented" Supreme Court criticism

Drudge: "INTIMIDATION: Obama directly condemns Supreme Court; Dems cheer." On January 27, the Drudge Report linked to a CBSNews.com video clip of the State of the Union speech with the following headline:

intimidation

Napolitano: Obama's "attempt to intimidate" the Supreme Court has "never happened before." On the January 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Andrew Napolitano said that the president's comments regarding the Supreme Court decision had "never happened before" and that he had "insulted them to their faces." He claimed that the Supreme Court justices were "guests" at the State of the Union and that "in that environment, [Obama] attacks them in a position where they cannot respond, and then attempts to intimidate them by inducing members of Congress to stand up and applaud, suggesting that he's right and they're wrong."

Krauthammer: Obama's comment "I believe is unprecedented." On the January 28 edition of Fox News' Special Report, Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said, "President Obama attacked the Supreme Court at the State of the Union address, which I believe is unprecedented." He called the comments "a direct attack" and "a breach of etiquette which shouldn't have happened."

In fact, presidents have a history of directly addressing and criticizing the Supreme Court

Harding criticized the Supreme Court for overturning the Child Labor Law in his 1922 State of the Union. In 1922, the Supreme Court found the Child Labor Law of 1919 to be unconstitutional. In his State of the Union address, President Warren G. Harding criticized the court for putting "this problem outside the proper domain of Federal regulation until the Constitution is so amended as to give the Congress indubitable authority. I recommend the submission of such an amendment."

Reagan criticized the court for its ruling on school prayer. In his 1988 State of the Union address, Reagan expressed his displeasure with the court's recent ruling on school prayer:

And let me add here: So many of our greatest statesmen have reminded us that spiritual values alone are essential to our nation's health and vigor. The Congress opens its proceedings each day, as does the Supreme Court, with an acknowledgment of the Supreme Being. Yet we are denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray. I believe Congress should pass our school prayer amendment.

Reagan directly attacked the Supreme Court for Roe v. Wade. In his 1984 State of the Union address, Reagan attacked the 1973 Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade, during a discussion on abortion:

And while I'm on this subject, each day your Members observe a 200-year-old tradition meant to signify America is one nation under God. I must ask: If you can begin your day with a member of the clergy standing right here leading you in prayer, then why can't freedom to acknowledge God be enjoyed again by children in every schoolroom across this land?

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During our first 3 years, we have joined bipartisan efforts to restore protection of the law to unborn children. Now, I know this issue is very controversial. But unless and until it can be proven that an unborn child is not a living human being, can we justify assuming without proof that it isn't? No one has yet offered such proof; indeed, all the evidence is to the contrary. We should rise above bitterness and reproach, and if Americans could come together in a spirit of understanding and helping, then we could find positive solutions to the tragedy of abortion.

Bush condemned "activist judges" who are "redefining marriage by court order." In his 2004 State of the Union address, Bush criticized "activist judges" who, according to him, were "redefining marriage by court order":

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our Nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

The outcome of this debate is important, and so is the way we conduct it. The same moral tradition that defines marriage also teaches that each individual has dignity and value in God's sight.

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    • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 10:22 am ET)
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      It wasn't unprecedented, but even if it was, Obama had the right to slam the decision. The S.Ct. is not a group of GODS, it is simply the third of our three CO-EQUAL branches of government. Get over it.
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      • Author by txthinker (January 29, 2010 10:35 am ET)
           
        And in this instance, they were wrong.
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      • Author by Max Credits (January 29, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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        Totally agree. Apart from this not being unprecedented, I'm somewhat taken aback by this notion of Media conservatives that "unprecedented" = "bad". Does "politics as usual" now = "good".
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (January 29, 2010 11:07 am ET)
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        You are correct, so he should accept their opinions / expertise in the Constitution, much like they do his. I would be interested if any S. Court in the past have ever called out a President in their courts.
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        • Author by shaggles (January 29, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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          Every time they overturn a law he has signed they demonstrate that they are not simply accepting his opinions/expertise.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
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          Nice tyr, but Justices Scalito, Thomas Roberts, and Alito have, time and time again now, demonstrated very little "expertise" in Constitutional matters. Soemtimes I wonder if they've ever even read the document, or have any appreciation AT ALL for the historical context in which it came into being.

          James Madison would be rolling over in his grave.

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        • Author by magnolialover (January 29, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
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          Thing is, he does accept their opinions, he doesn't have to agree with them though.
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        • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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          Thanks for the advice, corporate shill!
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        • Author by loonz (January 29, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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          He accepted the views of the four experts on the court and dismissed the five conservative justices.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 30, 2010 1:04 am ET)
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          Why should he accept their expertise in the Constitution. You are forgetting that President Obama is a Constitutional attorney.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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          "I would be interested if any S. Court in the past have ever called out a President in their courts." - MarkB

          We know you would be, Mark. You are, after all, the same person who did not know that any programs instituted by FDR are still in use today. So, forgive us if we do not want to take the time to explain basic American history or civics to you.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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        Agreed. And I'm 100% with every critic of this decision besides. It was a, absurd ruling, and the latest in a long line of absurd rulings issued by the Roberts Court in which the Rights of Corporations have taken precendent over the Right of individulas.

        Justice Alito is the one who ought to be ashamed of himself.

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        Bong hits for Jesus, dude!
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        • Author by shaggles (January 29, 2010 2:20 pm ET)
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          Speaking of absurdities I found this on Crooks and Liars:

          The Best Democracy Money Can Buy

          I assume from some of the language that Murray Hill, Inc actually opposes the Supreme Court ruling and wants to point out the absurdity of corporate personhood and perhaps prompt a lawsuit to stop this but maybe they just have balls. 'Huge brass ones' as Stephen Colbert would say.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
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            I think I have a very principled reason why corporations should be given the same right to "speech" as private citizens: The coporation cannot speak with one voice for all of it's shareholders, employees, customers, etc... IOW, whether you define the sherholder strickly as stockholder or look at the big picture, there are many voices in that group. Who decides what the CORPRATION want to say? Well... that would be THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. And THE BOARDMEMBERS were elected by the shareholders to RUN THE COMPANY; not to speak for them in political matters. How should a shareholder vote in the election of a boardmember if he thinks that the best people to run the company in a business sense differ to much form him politically, and he doesn't want them to leverage his company's funds to speak out with in partisan matters? Vote for the less qualified candidate? Ultimately, a "corportaion" merely becomes a tool for a few people to speak for tens of thousands, whether those people agree with them or not.

            I'm not saying we SHOULD, but I can see lifting restrictions on individual donations LONG before I could see deregulating corporate "speech." The SC decision her is baffling to me. Predictable, by still baffling.

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            Just a thought.
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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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              Wow. I really need to proof-read better! That first line should have read:

              I think I have a very principled reason why corporations shouldn't be given the same right to "speech" as private citizens.

              Kind of changes the whole point. Sorry about any confusion!

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        • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 4:00 pm ET)
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          "Justice Alito is the one who ought to be ashamed of himself."

          Amen! He's just one of 5 corporate owned judges that are selling our democracy to the highest bidder.

          Please forgive me if I ignore the opinion of the CORPORATIONS that are rallying this attack on our President using their media whores. For everyone that supports Alito's disrespect, there's a corporate master behind them.
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      • Author by I'mRight (January 29, 2010 3:25 pm ET)
           
        the supreme court is not an equal branch it has power over the other two thats why they were yelled at by the dems cause they made elections even again and dems really need the unfair advantage
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    • Author by magnolialover (January 29, 2010 10:32 am ET)
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      This is sort of like how the Obama administration criticizing the media was also "unprecedented". As in, if a dem does it, then it's bad.
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    • Author by mrcourt123 (January 29, 2010 10:44 am ET)
         
      Great citations. It should probably be said though, Bush's attack was on the Massachusetts State Supreme Court. You know, just to be fair and balanced and all that good stuff.
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    • Author by SLRTX (January 29, 2010 11:03 am ET)
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      Just 2 words sum up the hypocrisy of the conservatards:

      You lie!
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (January 29, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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        Sorry, that would be more in line for this President, since he told several the other night.

        Lobbyist
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        • Author by jarossiter (January 29, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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          Ahh there's an original position, a politician lied.

          Here's a clue for you. THEY ALL LIE!!!!!
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        • Author by SLRTX (January 29, 2010 11:47 am ET)
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          foot -

          I agree. That was a whopper.

          And that changes Fox's lies how??????
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        • Author by BobStreamMedia (January 29, 2010 1:31 pm ET)
             
          If you don't like lies, you're going to hate FOX News. Man, those guys make the President look like Mother Theresa. Unless she lies, too.
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        • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 4:02 pm ET)
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          Like what? What did he lie about? You have several so air them! Teach us the truth!
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          • Author by boulderhippy (January 30, 2010 8:37 pm ET)
               
            He said he wouldn't raise taxes on people earning less than $250,000 a year. His first days in office he signed SCHIP. The majority of people that have to pay that tax make WAY less than $250,000 a year. No matter how you try to justify it HE LIED!!!

            Gitmo is still in service. He claimed to be bipartisan and yet he can't even get partisan support.

            If I were a true believer like you, I would be more upset than the repubs. Just because he is giving the mid-terms to them without getting any leftist agenda bills passed into law.

            Obama = continuation of Bush agenda for 4 more years.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 4:20 pm ET)
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          Such as...?

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          Good luck.
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      • Author by wrench (January 29, 2010 11:39 am ET)
           
        its amazing that the only people that dont lie is liberals
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    • Author by kraftysue (January 29, 2010 11:04 am ET)
         
      A commentor on Glenn Greenwald said,

      Article II, Section 3
      He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient."

      First, it's not only allowed that the president would give his views on the 3rd branch's ruling, it is a constitutional requirement, if he feels it needs consideration by Congress.

      Second, Obama is absolutely correct that, regardless of how you stand on the court's ruling, it is an important ruling and unarguably merits consideration by congress.

      Third, the SCOTUS is a guest at the SOTU. They are there by courtesy. The constitution clearly states that the business of the communication is between second and first branches.


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    • Author by swift (January 29, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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      Andrew Jackson forced the Cherokee off their land in Georgia, despite the Supreme Court finding that it was unconstitutional. "John Marshall has made his decision; let him enforce it now if he can," he said. So as far as a president disrespecting the Supreme Court, criticizing a recent ruling is not much.
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      • Author by dave (January 29, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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        Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have previously used the State of the Union to criticize judicial actions, including those of the Supreme Court.

        Nice, you guys at MMFA couldn't resist lumping Bush into this, even though he had nothing to do with the criticizing the SC. You have Harding and Reagan, and even Ronnie addressed them 11 years later, not two days, and never mentioned them by name.
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        • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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          So you support selling our government to the corporations? Duly noted. America thanks you for your service.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 30, 2010 1:01 am ET)
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          Bush may or may not have been criticizind the Supreme Court, but some of the conservative media blasting him for criticizing an equal branch of the Government. Federal Judges are a part of the Jucial branch of the government, so Bush was criticizing an equal branch of the government as well.
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    • Author by southerngal (January 29, 2010 11:32 am ET)
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      Another silly manufactured ginned up recipe of much ado about nothing. It's Obama's speech, he can say any damn thing he wants. It's Alito whose etiquette should be questioned, sitting there shaking his head mouthing not true. If you're there as an invited guest and you choose to attend, then be respectful and accept professional criticism, a difference of opinion.

      Even thought this wasn't, we need more unprecedented-isms in Washington anyway, I say bring 'em on.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
           
        I agree, righton. Although, I do not have that much of an issue with Alito. I agree as an invited guest he should be more respectful. But, most judges have a hard time accepting criticism. I am amazed how well the other justices accepted it to be honest.
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (January 29, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
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      This just in: A corporation has taken the next logical step...

      http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/thom-hartmann-interviews-corporation-now-run
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      • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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        Thom Hartman rules.

        "Of course since I can create 100 or 1000 corporations with a few strokes of the pen, and each one should be able to vote in an election.... who needs to run for Congress? Corporate voting alone should solve so many problems." - Mike2
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    • Author by politeradical (January 29, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
         
      Of course the righties were justified in slamming Obama.

      That decision had nothing to do with abortion.
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    • Author by DellDolly (January 29, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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      The unprecedented thing was Justice Alito's actions.

      And according to the story I heard yesterday, he has a chip on his shoulder about Obama.

      Obama voted against Alito because, as Obama said at the time,

      "(W)hen you look at his record - when it comes to his understanding of the Constitution, I have found that in almost every case, he consistently sides on behalf of the powerful against the powerless; on behalf of a strong government or corporation against upholding American's individual rights.

      If there is a case involving an employer and an employee and the Supreme Court has not given clear direction, he'll rule in favor of the employer. If there's a claim between prosecutors and defendants, if the Supreme Court has not provided a clear rule of decision, then he'll rule in favor of the state. He's rejected countless claims of employer discrimination, even refusing to give some plaintiffs a hearing for their case. He's refused to hold corporations accountable numerous times for dumping toxic chemicals into water supplies, even against the decisions of the EPA. He's overturned a jury verdict that found a company liable for being a monopoly when it had over 90% of the market share at the time.

      It's not just his decisions in these individual cases that give me pause - it's that decisions like these are the rule for Samuel Alito, not the exception."

      So Obama voted against Alito.

      And then when Obama was visting DC in early January as President-elect, he went to the Supreme Court. He was met by 8 justices. Guess who snubbed him by not being there? Alito.

      And then, when Obama first got into office, what was his first act? To sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act, to counter the USSC ruling that Alito had authored.

      Alito is a spiteful little man.

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      • Author by fantagor (January 30, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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        Thanks to Bush, the court has two corporate shills for the next 30 years.

        My advice to everyone is have yourselves officially labeled as a corporation.

        Then your rights shall remain unencumbered by the idiocy of the Toxic Twins, Altio and Roberts.

        Randy
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    • Author by BobStreamMedia (January 29, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
         
      Conservatives spend 1/2 their lives bemoaning "activist judges" and the Supreme Court's ruling on Roe v/ Wade. There's no greater hypocrisy than criticizing Obama for doing the the very thing that distinguished a generation of Conservatives from the rest of us. In fact, the main reason this court was 5/4 in favor of the ruling was because of a generation of Conservative Activism that's been galvanized about politics for the sole purpose of getting the Supreme Court to rule in their favor and to repeal Roe v/ Wade. We can thank James Dobson, the American Family Association, the Family Research Council, and the rest of the "Family" groups for this one--they're the ones pushing this country toward Corporate Fascism because they uncritically follow the Business Party, hoping it will get them their coveted Supreme Court majority and a re-trail of Roe v/ Wade.
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    • Author by donwelty (January 29, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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      There have been decisions that I agree with and others that don't. The decisions of the court now are not like the decisions of 150 years ago. Sometimes conservatives have the majority and other times liberals do. Roe v. Wade has angered conservatives since it was decided. Finally, the catholic church has acknowledged that maybe there is something to evolution and it only took 150 years--although I would have preferred a shorter period. This time the court voted one way, it may take a few years for them to vote to overturn it. It took from 1896 in Plessy v Ferguson to 1954 in Brown v. Board of education, but it was overturned. The evolution cases will be disliked by conservatives, but because that is a matter of science and not religion, those will probably not be overturned and it will take 100 years for conservative groups to accept that fact, and even then, not all will.
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    • Author by whatIthink (January 30, 2010 10:15 pm ET)
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      markbfoot199 said "You are correct, so he should accept their opinions / expertise in the Constitution, much like they do his"

      So, I expect every frigging consevative to shut the hell up about Roe v Wade and "accept their opinions / expertise in the Constitution..." Otherwise they can all shut the hell up about Obama criticizing the Sitizens United ruling.
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