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January 29, 2010 5:43 pm ET — 36 Comments

On January 28, Fox News host Glenn Beck purported to explain the origins of the financial crisis but instead made several false claims. Beck misinformed his viewers on the difference between institutions that provide student loans and those that purchase existing home loans, his own previous comments about the financial bailouts, and the Federal Reserve's regulatory role.

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Beck falsely claimed Fannie Mae "does student loans"

Beck: Fannie Mae and Sallie Mae are "who the government uses" to "give everybody [student] loans." During the segment, Beck asserted:

BECK: Oh, by the way, you know the president? He talked about, you know, giving everybody student loans? You know, and taking care of that, last night? You know who the government uses to handle all that money and give everybody loans? Yeah, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It's going to turn out well, don't you think?

Beck later clarified:

BECK: By the way, because we had an argument in the break -- Fannie does student loans, Freddie does not, but Fannie does, and Sallie [Mae] does. But, I just -- the reason why I lump them all together is because mom, dad, child: I mean, it's the same stuff.

Not "the same stuff": Fannie and Freddie are GSEs that deal in mortgage lending; Sallie is a private corporation that provides student loans

Fannie and Freddie purchase existing home loans; Sallie provides student loans. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are government-sponsored entities that operate in the home mortgage market, not in student loans. The SLM corporation, or Sallie Mae, is a publically traded for-profit corporation that offers several types of educational loans. Sallie Mae terminated its government charter and completely privatized in 2004. As it notes on its website: "SLM Corporation and its subsidiaries are not sponsored by or agencies of the United States of America." Student loans awarded through the Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) program can be administered through the Department of Education's William D. Ford Direct Loan program or through any private lender, including Sallie Mae.

Beck again falsely claimed he didn't want "greedy bankers [...] to get the money in the first place"

Beck again falsely claimed he opposed bank bailouts. Beck also asserted of the "greedy bankers" who got bailout money: "I didn't want them to get the money in the first place." In fact, in September 2008, Beck called for a bailout bigger than $700 billion, but subsequently claimed he "hated" former President Bush for starting the bailouts. Beck previously acknowledged supporting the bailout on the December 2, 2009, edition of his show.

Beck falsely suggested Fed "job" before financial crisis included overseeing Goldman Sachs

Beck: Greenspan's advisers were supposed to "oversee things like Goldman Sachs. ... That's their job." From the January 28 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Ask anyone on Earth and they'll tell you the biggest fat cats on Wall -- the Wall Street bankers, the biggest fish in that evil sea, is Goldman Sachs. They're the worst of the worst.

[...]

BECK: Whose job was it to protect this before it all melted down? The Federal Reserve. See, that's their job. Their job is to protect the economy. Well, what were they doing at the time? Well, they were working with this guy. And they were lowering rates; they were making it easier to get money -- making it easier. They took money and make it less cheap, made it more enticing, and they gave it to these people and they gave it to these people. Got it? All the while, Alan Greenspan is on record blaming China. What he's saying is it's China, it's China, it's China.

Renowned economist Anna Schwartz said there has never been a subprime mortgage crisis if the Fed had been alert. This is something Alan Greenspan must answer for. Well, he had to have some pretty good advisers around, right? I mean, Alan Greenspan, he's no dummy. Greenspan had a bunch of advisers. He does. He has a bunch of people. They have a bunch of chairs. They have 12 Fed chairs all around the country, and really smart people sit in these Fed chairs and they oversee things like Goldman Sachs. They oversee Citigroup or Bank of America. That's their job.

In fact, the guy who sat in one of these chairs, the Fed chair, the New York Fed chair, it was his job under Alan Greenspan to watch these guys. To make sure that everything was on the up and up. Make sure nothing is wrong. The Fed's only job is to stand as a sentinel to guard against nefarious bankers.

In fact, the Fed had no authority to regulate Goldman until after financial crisis hit

Goldman sought Fed regulation after financial crisis because "regulation provides its members with full prudential supervision." The Federal Reserve has regulatory and supervisory responsibilities over commercial banks:

In addition to monetary policy responsibilities, the Federal Reserve Board has regulatory and supervisory responsibilities over banks that are members of the System, bank holding companies, international banking facilities in the United States, Edge Act and agreement corporations, foreign activities of member banks, and the U.S. activities of foreign-owned banks.

While the Federal Reserve had regulatory authority over banks, before the financial crisis, Goldman Sachs was an investment bank and not subject to Fed regulations. Goldman announced its conversion to a bank holding company on September 21, 2008 -- after the financial crisis became clear. In announcing its conversion, Goldman officials explicitly cited the benefits of Federal Reserve oversight as a reason for the move:

In recent weeks, particularly in view of market developments, Goldman Sachs has discussed with the Federal Reserve our intention to be regulated as a Bank Holding Company. We understand that the market views oversight by the Federal Reserve and the ability to source insured bank deposits as providing a greater degree of safety and soundness. We view regulation by the Federal Reserve Board as appropriate and in the best interests of protecting and growing our franchise across our diverse range of businesses.

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"When Goldman Sachs was a private partnership, we made the decision to become a public company, recognizing the need for permanent capital to meet the demands of scale. While accelerated by market sentiment, our decision to be regulated by the Federal Reserve is based on the recognition that such regulation provides its members with full prudential supervision and access to permanent liquidity and funding," said Lloyd C. Blankfein, Chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs. "We believe that Goldman Sachs, under Federal Reserve supervision, will be regarded as an even more secure institution with an exceptionally clean balance sheet and a greater diversity of funding sources."

NY Times: Goldman, Morgan Stanley acknowledged model was "too risky" in seeking "far greater regulation" under Fed. In a September 22 article, The New York Times reported: "Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, the last big independent investment banks on Wall Street, will transform themselves into bank holding companies subject to far greater regulation, the Federal Reserve said Sunday night, a move that fundamentally reshapes an era of high finance that defined the modern Gilded Age." The article continued:

The firms requested the change themselves, even as Congress and the Bush administration rushed to pass a $700 billion rescue of financial firms. It was a blunt acknowledgment that their model of finance and investing had become too risky and that they needed the cushion of bank deposits that had kept big commercial banks like Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase relatively safe amid the recent turmoil.

It also is a turning point for the high-rolling culture of Wall Street, with its seven-figure bonuses and lavish perks for even midlevel executives. It effectively returns Wall Street to the way it was structured before Congress passed a law during the Great Depression separating investment banking from commercial banking, known as the Glass-Steagall Act.

By becoming bank holding companies, the firms are agreeing to significantly tighter regulations and much closer supervision by bank examiners from several government agencies rather than only the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, the firms will look more like commercial banks, with more disclosure, higher capital reserves and less risk-taking.

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    • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
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      Or the Constitution or the Founding Fathers or anything else.
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    • Author by SLRTX (January 29, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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      I've posted this before, but it continues to apply to Becker-heads:

      "However big the fool, there is always a bigger fool to admire him." -- Nicholas Boileau
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    • Author by Bad News (January 29, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
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      "I Don't Know Much About History"
      "Don't Know Much About Biology"

      "But What i Do Know is i Hate Beck"
      "Of America He Doesn't Give a Heck"

      "If Glenn Beck Would Just Go Away"
      "What A Wonderful World This Would Be"
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    • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 7:31 pm ET)
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      Based on the clips shown here tonight, he doesn't know anything at ALL. Unbelievable. He just makes it up as he goes and his faithful followers lap it up like kittens with milk.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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        Don't worry, I am sure diamonds or kdork will be along soon to ensure us that Beck is very truthful and has America's best interests at heart.
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    • Author by bluestate69 (January 29, 2010 7:41 pm ET)
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      beck seems to fancy himself a history "professor", yet he is habitually at odds with the facts. beck's methodology is flawed at the core. he first starts with his opinion, then he looks for "evidence" to back up his opinions. when that evidence doesn't exist, beck simply uses his "opinion" as factual evidence.
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      • Author by tolebell (January 29, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
           
        Yes your right. He does. Have you ever heard "You know your a redneck if you get all your political news from Glenn Beck" People that can't read , also vote . That is what is a scary thought
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      • Author by diamonds (January 30, 2010 2:54 am ET)
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        I regularly watch his show and I haven't seen any examples of him using his opinion as a fact... Is that even possible by definition? Glenn is one of the best commentators I know at regularly citing facts and primary source research.

        Yes, he typically starts with a hypothesis and then examines the surrounding evidence and facts to back up that claim. That's how you are supposed to present an opinion, by first presenting it, and then supporting your claim. That's just common sense, really, how else are you supposed to present a viewpoint?

        But if I am wrong, examples would be welcome. I'm not going to claim he is perfect or always remembers his facts straight (though even then, that still won't disprove his point at large).

        I mean, what is MMfA supposed to be disproving here anyways (I know what it is, but I'm not sure anyone else does)? They haven't even listed the overall point he was trying to make, only saying that specific facts he presented were wrong (even though he corrected it that same show!) and imply that all his points must be wrong because of it, which is of course not how you go about disproving opinions.
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        • Author by jeffro (January 30, 2010 4:49 am ET)
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          Opinions are like.....Well, you know the rest. You got nuthin'.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (January 30, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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          But if I am wrong, examples would be welcome

          You can find them at mediamatters.org. Lots of them.
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          • Author by diamonds (January 30, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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            When has he claimed his opinion was fact? MMfA publishes lots of quotes that are supposed to be somehow controversial, but no specific rebuttals. Are you claiming you are not supposed to present facts to back up your opinion...?
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            • Author by At_odds (January 31, 2010 5:23 am ET)
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              "I regularly watch his show and I haven't seen any examples of him using his opinion as a fact... Is that even possible by definition?"

              Absolutely! They are his opinions but he tries to present them as if they were a fact. Do you really not understand? Well, it is kind of like your claim here:

              "Glenn is one of the best commentators I know at regularly citing facts and primary source research."

              Like when he cherry picks random quotes ignoring their context? When it comes doing research Glenn Beck would probably disagree with you, [url=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/csTS7fk01iI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/csTS7fk01iI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>]here[/url].

              How often do you hear him say, "In my opinion." No he states just about everything as if it were fact. Im shocked that you really need someone to show you examples. It seems as though you are just hoping that nobody is going to take the time out to post them.
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              • Author by At_odds (January 31, 2010 5:41 am ET)
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                "I regularly watch his show and I haven't seen any examples of him using his opinion as a fact... Is that even possible by definition?"

                Absolutely! They are his opinions but he tries to present them as if they were a fact. Do you really not understand? Well, it is kind of like your claim here:

                "Glenn is one of the best commentators I know at regularly citing facts and primary source research."

                Like when he cherry picks random quotes ignoring their context? When it comes doing research Glenn Beck would probably disagree with you, here.

                By the way, do you remember when he "cried" on his program? I bet you fell for that too, huh?

                How often do you hear him say, "In my opinion," anyway. No he states just about everything as if it were fact. Im shocked that you really need someone to show you examples. It seems as though you are just hoping that nobody is going to take the time out to post them. How about all of Beck's ratings on Politifact , which rates his most truthful claim out of 11, as half true. He has one of the worst profiles that Ive seen on politifact. I know you are now going to question politifact's bias, and you are going to say that 11 is a small number of lies for a commentator, so before you do, I would just like to point out that the lies you'll read in politifact are constantly repeated by Beck.

                Anyway if you need more examples just watch Beck for 20 minutes. I do regularly (entertainment purposes), as you said you do also.
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        • Author by scanlontodd9871 (January 30, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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          Opinions are not facts. So what you are saying is that Glenda does not have a news show but an opinion show. Just as we all thought.
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        • Author by tjmccool2284 (January 30, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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          Glenda's primary thrust here is that the Goldman cabal was really running the market that caused the melt-down. The biggest problem with that is he's only right if you believe that because people move from Wall Street to the government and back again they have no desire to serve, only the cynicism he has.
          He also claims that the Fed's job was to oversee the Wall Street banks. He's wrong. Period. Journalists and commentators have lazily lumped investment banks (pre-2008) with commercial banks. Goldman, like Bear, Lehman, Morgan Stanley etc. was an investment bank and as a public company overseen by the SEC.
          The Fed oversees bank holding companies and participates with the OCC and the FDIC in regulating commercial banks.

          While MMfA is correct that the remaining IBs (Goldman and Morgan Stanley) converted to bank holding company status for regulation, the more important part back in 2008 was access to the Fed window. Lack of liquidity sank Bear and Lehman, and Goldman and Morgan had problems with their overnight repo financing and needed the liquidity from the Fed.

          Glenn has a great sense of populist themes and how to exploit them but his model has been tried before. He must pine for the days of hisPartyfavorite political party.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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            You are correct, tjm, and it was nice of you to take the time to explain it to diamonds. But, do you really think this will have any affect on the Beckers? You will notice that the Beckers conveniently forget to explain how Beck was for the bailouts under G-Dub (in fact, wanted them to be larger) but against them once they were Obama's. This would conflict with the character he portrays for them every night as an independent rather than a shill for the far-right and their true believers.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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          And there is diamonds, right on cue.

          "I'm not going to claim he is perfect or always remembers his facts straight (though even then, that still won't disprove his point at large)." - diamonds

          That's my personal favorite. That should be in a time capsule somewhere to let future generations know how the Beckers' minds worked - or didn't work.
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          • Author by diamonds (January 30, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
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            Is that analysis wrong? A single incorrectly recalled fact does not, in fact, by itself, make your entire point at large incorrect. In fact, rarely does MMfA present the larger point Beck tries to make, that would harm their argument that Beck can't tell the truth, they will only present little sound bites, out of context, or even entirely misquoted, and then disprove it, and then imply that he is always wrong because of it.
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            • Author by At_odds (January 31, 2010 5:53 am ET)
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              "A single incorrectly recalled fact does not, in fact, by itself, make your entire point at large incorrect."

              Good thing media matters has documented multiple lies and included context for many of them. Good thing it shows a pattern of deceit rather than just soundbites and out of context quotes.

              "they will only present little sound bites, out of context, or even entirely misquoted, and then disprove it, and then imply that he is always wrong because of it."

              Hmm...How about you give us an example of these taken out of context quotes or little soundbites.
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            • Author by bintx (January 31, 2010 6:24 pm ET)
                 
              Beck doesn't try to make any points. He throws crap out and hopes that some idiot like you believes him enough to keep watching.

              I've been listening to Beck for years on the radio, diamonds. The man is a JOKE. He says crap with confidence and people like you believe that he is basing his opinions on fact [you stated that above]. He's not. He MAKES IT UP! He's a comedian, a self-described clown. He has no education to speak of and you believe he knows what he's talking about. That's very sad. He's laughing at people like you. He's got a history of telling lies over the airwaves in order to fool his listeners into believing something that isn't true. He thinks it's funny.
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        • Author by blurider (January 30, 2010 3:44 pm ET)
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          You want EXAMPLES? I strongly suggest you begin by reading the article you 'REPLY'd' to! This approach might also serve you in the future...

          One OPINION of Beck's as well as much of the right which appears to have casually slipped into tacit acceptance even by the mainstream media, is the ridiculous notion that the poor, usually minority people who got a few 'liar loans' and other loans they couldn't manage successfully, actually CAUSED the entire financial sector meltdown! Not the bankers, hoist by their own petard, not the 'too clever by half' (or more) geniuses of finance but the poor minorities who lied about not only their earnings but even their employment status!
          Further repeated or tacitly accepted is the myth that earlier Democratic administrations literally used C R A's to force banks and bankers to lend money to people with bad credit who could never pay it back!

          This myth holds the Jeffersons, the Ortegas and Hachims responsible for bringing down or nearly bringing down cities from Reykjavik to Oslo and investors all over the world who were 'tricked' by their dishonesty and the imposition of 'socialism' on gutless and foolish bankers by Democratic administrations. These administrations and these minority families according to the myth, actually tricked AIG and S & P into giving their bundled and 'tranched', bad credit AAA credit ratings since they were both so insidiously clever AND so economically naive!

          One wonders how Jimmy Carter or Clinton (the myth allows the choice) ever managed to find so many submissive and downright stupid bankers and economically illiterate homeowners to risk their freedom and futures.

          Most importantly, to the myth - this crisis was generated by the impulses of 'liberals, progressives and socialists' and grew from bottom up!
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          • Author by blurider (January 30, 2010 4:08 pm ET)
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            Truth be told the, crisis was generated and re-powered from the top down.
            It didn't happen 'because their were 'liar loans', there were liar loans (or at least the huge proliferation of liar loans) because of the 'invention' or discovery of the concept of financial derivatives. In steps the bankster boys found that not only could they bundle all kinds of loan paper (investment credit) into packages which could be sliced and diced (tranche - slice [Fr]) and made so complicated as to be difficult to analyze. Amazingly this served to conceal the true nature of the paper so well that the rating agencies would rate the CDOs and the alphabet soup of derivatives as high as AA or AAA when they might contain a lot of marginal loans from the minority folks and others with bad credit, shaky employment or no jobs at all.

            Once this discovery was tested and proven by the schemers at the top, they sent word down the line to the neighborhood banker or finance company to encourage the liar loans - in fact to write all the bad paper on all the marginal prospects, they could because no one in the conversation would ever have to be responsible for collection or loss.

            The myth is just one more example of disservice to the working and middle class by Fox and their corporate masters to further convince them that whatever's good for the ol' massa is good for the slave!
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        • Author by achrispage6992 (January 30, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
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          Jesus!!!! And to think that people like you bemoan politicians trying to rationalize everything they do. There are numerous examples of Beck lying outright to his audience. That's right LYING! Not to mention his fear mongering involving world calamities while he points to himself as a lone voice in the wilderness. Do you even realize how similiar this mans rhetoric towards progressives is to that of Hitler's towards the Jews? Do you not SEE!
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        • Author by blurider (January 30, 2010 8:55 pm ET)
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          Read it again, diamonds! (without your slanted, right wing 'readers'!)
          He corrected one error - at the urging of his producer or off camera support, then repeated another. (That Fannie does make student loans)

          He also asserts that the Fed should have been regulating Goldman when in fact, they had no authority to regulate Goldman!

          He typically makes such bold assertions without any concern for fact or truth or detail because that's what he's accustomed to doing and the show slips by without him being called on such distortions and he's seldom corrected by his support team. When he is called on his facts he still clings to fragments of his spiel out of an overactive ego, caring nothing for the truth!

          I submit that you are blind to the truth or knowingly involving your own ego in his defense. Take note! That's much kinder, much more forgiving, than calling you out for consciously lying or distorting the facts.
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        • Author by vysotsky (January 31, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
             
          "I regularly watch his show and I haven't seen any examples of him using his opinion as a fact."

          I don't know whether Beck ever said something like, "It's my opinion and it's a fact." But he's certainly misrepresented outright falsehoods as facts.
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        • Author by bintx (January 31, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
             
          Glenn is one of the best commentators I know at regularly citing facts and primary source research.


          Wow! That is unbelievable. Just Friday night he was spewing complete and utter nonsense about the Ph.d. program in this country. He cited NO facts at all, just a bunch of flat out lies.

          You really must get out more. You obviously are just as educationally deprived as Beck. The man is a lying lunatic.
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        • Author by PompanoTom (February 01, 2010 3:22 pm ET)
             
          Left or Right leaning, the only political commentator out there that explicitly, repeatedly cites her resources is Randi Rhodes. But that's radio.

          TV's got nothing of merit...nothing. It's all propaganda, it's all a metaphor for control. Pravda was state-run. Advertising money is the capitalist version, and switching and splicing facts is the M.O. of keeping the bucks rolling in.

          Opinion vs. Fact

          • Rain falls - fact.
          • I think that it rains harder in Florida than anywhere else in the world - opinion
          • I'm telling you, it rains harder in Florida than anywhere else in the world, and that's the truth - opinion masquerading as fact.

          Remember when Beck quoted some university study on Fox and Friends? I forgot what it was about, but it was back around the time of the 2nd Tea Party rally in Washington (the one where Hannity ran footage from a totally different, prior event and Jon Stewart called him out on it). He couldn't name the University. That's the sort of thing that urks. He gets his following and then can say something like that and his followers will think that there is concrete empirical analysis out there for this or that. He doesn't need to mention the university and in the end, people, accustomed to this style by the news as it is, just accept it as FACT even though for all we know it's hear-say or made-up stats in his mind.

          The lines been crossed, by the way, when comedy shows and cartoons need to point out the sad truth that news skirts.

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    • Author by open_mind (January 29, 2010 9:40 pm ET)
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      Thank you for setting that straight MMfA. The best criticism is educational at the same time. I feel sorry for the poor schmucks that get their education from "Professor" Beck.
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    • Author by pabobfin (January 30, 2010 2:09 am ET)
         
      Isn't using the term "Unhinged" with "Glenn Beck" redundant?
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    • Author by captfoster2 (January 30, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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      "Beck "don't know much about history"... or economics"

      For what its worth...

      We all already knew this!

      What's even better is when self admitted fans of Glenn start spouting off the propaganda and made up crap this delusional fruitcake speaks and they say it as if they are just so sure that it is the truth.

      It gets even better when, after they have already decided not to accept the facts (you can tell many of them are using up a few brains cells, but after a few, they resort to the 'F%@k You' defense) or they proceed to call me a Communist or a product of Obamamania or that I must have gone to public school.

      Propaganda is as propaganda does
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    • Author by peets101 (January 30, 2010 2:00 pm ET)
         
      It would be nice if we could build a wall around Beck, using his lies and disinformation like bricks. I's sure that there are more than enough to wall him off from the world.
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    • Author by sicfish (January 30, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
         
      Article states "Fannie and Freddie purchase existing home loans; Sallie provides student loans. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are government-sponsored entities that operate in the home mortgage market, not in student loans".

      -It took me no longer than 7 seconds to find on http://www.realestatezing.com/fannie-mae/student-loans.html

      Fannie Mae Student Loans and their benefits

      Fannie Mae student loans are perhaps the best choice as they fall under the government loan category. The most important feature of these loan terms is that the rate of interest is very low usually about 3 percent or slightly over it. As a student, it is important for you to know that many college students face huge debts in an attempt to finance their school and college expenses. So, achieving the lowest available loan rates will definitely allow you to save thousands of dollars from your student loan repayments.

      seriously, that took 7 seconds to find. Now as an article trying to debunk an argument you would think that they could at least get their first point right.

      Words of advice: Stay away from the keyboard dumdums.








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    • Author by leatherhelmet (January 30, 2010 8:09 pm ET)
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      "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are government-sponsored entities that operate in the home mortgage market, not in student loans."

      That is incorrect. Fannie Mae will consolidate student loans into a mortgage loan. That is one of the reasons we had the crash was the government encouraged loans for more than the homes were worth and people were consolidating all their debt into one payment -- debt that included student loans.
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    • Author by shelby73 (February 01, 2010 9:07 am ET)
         
      I really liked the ridiculous show he had about the artwork at Rockefeller Center- you know, the SOCIALIST plot that Rockefeller came up with 70 years ago. He loves to use his scary words, you know Communist, Socialist, Fascist. Yet he literally doesn't know what they mean. Republicans love to rewrite history, confident the American people are too stupid to know the difference, and Beck does this every day. Thank God we have Beck on the tv every day to explain the REAL history,you know , that Hitler was liberal, Stalin was liberal, every brutal dictator was liberal, and of course President Obama is liberal, therefore he is EVIL like all these other evil liberals. Oh, and wasn't it just last week he talked about the Beatles song Revolution, which was a secret message from the Beatles. Does that mean Beck is channeling Charlie Manson? Using Becks logic, I guess so. Sorry I can't explain the Beatle reference better, I just didn't get it. One other thing about these Beckheads, they act like he does his show like its a public service. That he's doing it for the folks, and of course ,the country he loves so much. Its like they don't know he's getting paid millions for his schick, and they just lap it up. Sometime he reminds me of the guy on the tv in the movie, V for Vendetta. Scary
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