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Beck spins anecdotal OFA claim into school "indoctrination" yarn

February 02, 2010 8:27 am ET — 35 Comments

Glenn Beck ran with the right-wing claim that President Obama -- through an Organizing for America internship program -- was attempting to use the public schools to "indoctrinate" students. Beck's claims were based on a series of distortions and false assertions.

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Beck baselessly inflates anecdotal story to suggest Obama using schools to recruit students for campaign

Beck: "They are now recruiting our high school students." From the February 1 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: I just showed you the necessary ingredients for eroding freedom, and one of the keys, long-term, is education. Oh, that's ridiculous, Glenn, they're not, they're -- really? Education's not controlled by the progressive agenda or even by the administration? Really? Well, then tell me a little bit about this. Obama, through Organizing for America, has announced new internships at high schools. They are now recruiting our high school students to, quote, "build on the movement that elected President Obama by empowering students across the country to help us bring about our agenda." End quote.

Beck: "This is the actual form that your kids are handed at school." Although Beck appears to be echoing a blog post in which Atlas Shrugs' Pam Geller refers to only one instance -- brought to her attention by one of the blog's readers -- in which an Ohio school teacher distributed the OFA applications, Beck never mentions that his segment is based on a solitary anecdotal story. In fact, holding up some papers, he asserts, "This is the actual form that your kids are handed at school."

"Che indoctrination": Beck suggests recommended readings for internship will be read in schools

Beck falsely suggested that OFA's internship reading recommendations will be read to children in schools. Although the suggested readings are part of the internship curriculum -- not recommended as school curriculum -- Beck stated:

BECK: During the first week, in the curriculum -- national intern organizer curriculum -- suggested readings: Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. That's on the reading list. In the first week. Now, if you want your kid reading this book, you're either a progressive, a Marxist, or you don't know what's in it. Things like, don't worry about it, the ends justify the means. Really? Wow, I didn't learn that from my president. Any other president. This is the second step in the Che indoctrination. First, you get the kids in the T-shirt, and then you read them Saul Alinsky in school, recommended by the president. Maybe we should start printing Saul T-shirts right now. What do you say?

Beck suggested that the recommended readings amount to teaching kids unethical behavior. In addition to referring to the readings, particularly Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and Zack Exley's The New Organizers, as "Che indoctrination," Beck stated:

BECK: I want you to know. If my kid is going in for -- to be an intern for a campaign, and it teaches them about civics, duty, honor, standing up for things that are principled, learning more about our country and its founding, that's great. But if you're teaching my kid that the ends justify the means, that tearing people apart without evidence, without any kind of substance, something that they did in their past, and if you think that's OK -- just smear 'em to get elected as long as you win -- I don't think America should be OK with that.

Beck: "Obama loves [Alinsky] for the schools." Suggesting that there is something underhanded about recommending reading Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, Beck stated:

BECK: Here's the real cruxt [sic] of this issue. You want to read the book, read the book. You want your kids to read the book, read the book. I have no problem with it. Serve for Obama. Do it. But how come this administration always dismisses people like Saul Alinsky? They dismiss all of these radical '60s influences -- the Bill Ayers of the world, who, by the way, never apologized for the bombing of the Pentagon -- in fact, he said he didn't do enough -- and is currently working in education.

How about Saul Alinsky? A Marxist who was passed off in the media just, what, a year ago? Year and a half ago? Oh, nobody pays attention to him. Who is this guy? Since then, we find out that Obama loves him for the schools and Chris Matthews has just said this.

MATTHEWS [video clip]: Well, to reach back to one of our heroes from the past, from the '60s, Saul Alinsky.

BECK: One of the heroes from the '60s. And again, Obama's Organizing for America sends this out for your kids.

Yet conservatives have also advocated the use of Alinsky tactics. As Media Matters for America has pointed out, counterpoint to the idea that reading Alinsky amounts to liberal indoctrination is the fact that a number of conservatives have not only confessed to reading Rules for Radicals but also to actively using Alinsky tactics:

  • Tea Party leader Michael Patrick Leahy has written a book based on Alinsky's work in which he "argues that today's conservative radical should follow the tactics of Saul Alinsky, but apply the morals and ethics of Martin Luther King."
  • The Los Angeles Times reported that conservative activist James O'Keefe found an "unlikely source of inspiration" in Alinsky and that O'Keefe "took to heart" Alinsky's principle to "[m]ake the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
  • On Glenn Beck, David Horowitz advocated for conservatives to follow "what Saul Alinsky argues" -- i.e., "shout[ing] things whether they are true or not" and "stag[ing] a die-in" -- in order to "catch the other side off guard" and win the health care debate.
  • The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder reported: "[I]n Kansas City, Missouri, a group of conservative organizers will conduct a most unusual training session. They will teach the 'Rules for Radicals' laid down by the god of community organizing, Saul Alinsky. The idea: learn to recognize the footprints of the enemy."
  • The Washington Independent's David Weigel has reported that "Alinsky has found a thriving and surprising fan club in the modern conservative movement," with "many 'Tea Party' activists say[ing] they're cribbing from Alinsky."

Beck suggested that an NEA website's recommendation of Rules for Radicals -- for "association representatives" -- amounts to indoctrination

Beck: "[I]t's not just if you want to be an intern. ... The government is training radicals instead of educating children."

BECK: Oh, and it doesn't stop there, because it's not just if you want to be an intern. How about this one? The NEA has issued a new recommended reading on their website. Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. That's fantastic. The average American -- are they with Saul Alinsky, the ends justify the means? Should the average American just blow all of these things off as unrelated coincidence? That the government is training radicals instead of educating children.

But the recommendation is for the NEA's "site leaders," not children. The part of the National Education Association's website on which the recommendation appears is called "Association Representative Resources" and is described as follows:

This area of the NEA website is dedicated to recognizing and developing effective site leaders, whether they be called "Association Representatives," "Building Representatives," "Shop Stewards," or any other name.

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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 02, 2010 8:53 am ET)
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      But if you're teaching my kid that the ends justify the means, that tearing people apart without evidence, without any kind of substance, something that they did in their past, and if you think that's OK -- just smear 'em to get elected as long as you win -- I don't think America should be OK with that.

      Funny how much that sounds like the CONSERVTAIVE agende and the CONSERVATIVE'S tactics.

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      Apparently PROJECTION is the only thing the Right doesn't suck at.
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      • Author by nerzog (February 02, 2010 9:11 am ET)
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        I was thinking the same thing. Karl Rove perfected those tactics into a science.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 02, 2010 10:17 am ET)
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          Oh, I think it WAY predate Rove's emergence into the public consiousness. I rememebr thinking this about Limbaugh back as early as 1993 / early (pre-Speaker Gingrich) Clinton years. LIBERALS are the ones who want to TAKE YOUR FREEODM AWAY?! Yeah, RIGHT! WELFARE is RACIST? Huh?! DEMOCRATS "taxing and spending" is bankrupting the Gov't and causing all the economic touble? (WHAT economic "trouble"? And how is BORROWING and spending any better?!)

          Limbaugh seemed, to me, the first that I can remember who made a regular staple out of projection. The rest just followed suit, seeing how well it WORKED.

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          Rove just read his books.
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          • Author by angels4light (February 02, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
               
            Perhaps borrow and spend is better because it is the way of some Republicans.
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      • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
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        You're 100% correct, NiceguyEddie. It cracks me up every time Blech mentions Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, because it's OBVIOUS to anyone who has read the book that Beck's (and the conservative right's) whole spiel is taken directly from its pages.

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    • Author by epkklk851 (February 02, 2010 9:09 am ET)
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      "But if you're teaching my kid that ends justifies the means, that tearing people apart without evidence, without any kind of substance um, something that they did in their past, if you think that's okay, just smear them to get elected as long as you win, I don't think America should be okay with that.........."

      Glenn you do this to other people every day! You never apologize. You lie and smear and then tell people to tune in tomorrow for more! Have you no shame? Have you no decency? Have you no honor? If you did, you would quit your show tomorrow and never venture into the public arena again! And if Fox had any sense of moral obligation they would fire you and all the other mouth pieces and cease opertation. But that isn't going to happen, is it?
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    • Author by nerzog (February 02, 2010 9:17 am ET)
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      The funny thing is that every generation has some Troglodytes who get all bent out of shape over something on a school's reading list.

      Books like The Diary of Anne Frank, Catcher in the Rye, Slaughterhouse Five and Huckleberry Finn have aroused self-righteous indignation in some ignorant rube like Glenn Beck. They would have us believe that reading a book, any book, will somehow undermine their "family values".

      Stupid is a hard habit to break.
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      • Author by mk3872 (February 02, 2010 9:51 am ET)
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        Freedom of speech should only apply to conservatives and corporations, I guess
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    • Author by mk3872 (February 02, 2010 9:51 am ET)
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      My head hurts. I feel like we're replaying the late 80's and early 90's all over again. Church ladies and nosy conservatives railing against books, arts, freedom of speech ... Freedom of speech should be saved only for big corporations, is that it?
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    • Author by seahawks123 (February 02, 2010 10:24 am ET)
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      Glad to see you libs don't deni any of this. Barak Hussein Obama MMM MMM MMM!!!
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      • Author by vhw28672478 (February 02, 2010 10:31 am ET)
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        wrong again
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      • Author by raine315 (February 02, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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        • Author by seahawks123 (February 02, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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          Nancy is getting kids to say no to drugs not to idolize the president unlike the indoctrination going on by this adminastration and his cronies.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (February 02, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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            Nancy is getting kids to say no to drugs not to idolize the black man in the white house unlike the indoctrination going on by this adminastration and his cronies.

            There, I fixed your post.
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          • Author by mk3872 (February 02, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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            Yeah, Republicans make NO effort to ever try to get kids to idolize Reagan ... LOL!

            [http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/la/LACOVreagan_miller2.jpg]
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    • Author by Sks1 (February 02, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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      Beck until you apologize for ur calling the president a racist and hates white culture comment,,no one wants to hear from you...and ur lying rants,,,when Bush visited schools it was considered patriotic..BECK just go away...
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      • Author by phredicles (February 02, 2010 10:42 am ET)
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        And I'm still waiting for Bleck to explain what "white culture" is.
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        • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 1:15 pm ET)
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          That's easy! NASCAR, Wal-Mart, McDonald's... did I miss anything? "White culture" is a euphemism for rampant consumerism, unbridled overconsumption and a complete disregard for the earth and those who share it with us.

          So yeah, I guess you could say that Obama has a deep seated hatred for "white culture". Who wouldn't? Well, aside from the brainwashed corporate-controlled zombies that call themselves "conservatives" "tea partiers" or "republicans", that is. Hell, I'm white and I hate "white culture" (or lack thereof). Other cultures are vibrant and full of tradition. What do we have besides an (unjustifiable) air of superiority? The Simpsons? The NFL? A bunch of commercial nonsense with no real historical or cultural value? It's pathetic, really.
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      • Author by null1fy (February 02, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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        When Bush visited schools he also didn't brainwash kids to sing songs like: "George Walker Bush, MMMM MMMM MMMM"
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        • Author by Moribund (February 02, 2010 5:03 pm ET)
             
          A teacher set that up. They also told the parents what they were doing, the lyrics they would be singing and had to sign a permission slip for it. The children had the option of not doing it.
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        • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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          Those kids never sang TO Obama, but ironically, some kids from the Gulf Coast serenaded Bush after the catastrophe that was hurricane Katrina (and Bush and FEMA's pathetic response to said catastrophe). And yes, they sang a song ABOUT Bush and FEMA. MMM, MMM. Mrs. Bush then read a story to some homeless kids who sat on the cold, WET ground while Mrs. Bush stayed dry in a folding chair. Nice photo-op, huh?
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    • Author by former NeoLib (February 02, 2010 11:33 am ET)
         
      The "ends justifies the means" is practiced by tyrants, simply put. In other words, take the ascended figures from human history out of this equasion.

      I'm sure that members of both parties have excercised this maxim at times. However, no one has flagrantly flaunted/encouraged it to the degree that this radical administration has, simply put. Clinton wrote her thesis on Alinsky; Obamma taught it at school.

      Consider what this world would be like if everyone vagrantly followed Alinsky's rules of conduct. Please bear in mind, the trajectory is not always in line with one's own beliefs and desires.
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    • Author by Ravioliman66 (February 02, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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      No doubt Obama is trying to brain wash school children. Obama's expertise is what? Community organizing!!

      Obviously Obama can't get adults to agree with him, so he's got three years to find school children who can vote in the next election to brainwash.

      Disgusting.....
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    • Author by tobehonest (February 02, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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      just fyi....beck isn't going after "liberals" he's going after what he calls "progressives." on numerous, numerous occasions he has stated that there are progressives in both parties and that this is not a republican-democrat issue. so to suggest that because some conservatives read or recommend Rules for Radicals Beck is being hypocritical, is to miss his point
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      • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 10:18 pm ET)
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        Beck is a liar. Clearly this IS a republican-democrat issue. Have you ever seen Beck pal around with a democrat? A REAL democrat? I'd say that speaks VOLUMES in and of itself. There is no such thing as a "progressive" republican. No. Such. Thing. Beck will say that George W. Bush is a "progressive", because people dislike Bush and anything associated with him. By doing this, "progressive" becomes pejorative. And that, my friend, is a play straight out of Rules for Radicals, which indeed makes Mr. Beck quite the hypocrite.
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        • Author by tobehonest (February 03, 2010 7:34 pm ET)
             
          actually, there is such a thing as a progressive republican. calling yourself a republican does not make you a conservative, as george w. proved. and i would bet that a lot of his viewers are still fans of bush, so bashing him is certainly not pandering to that audience. and about who beck pals around with, i really don't know who that is, republican or democrat. i assume his wife is his main pal
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    • Author by angels4light (February 02, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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      It seems to me that Mr. Beck is only OK with it when he is the one doing the smearing...
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    • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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      Yes, the very same public schools that (in large part) can't even teach students to read or do basic math before they're 18 somehow manage to pull off successful political indoctrination of our children. Riiiiight.
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      • Author by null1fy (February 02, 2010 2:46 pm ET)
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        But, if they ever did teach these things to children, there's also a chance that one of them might fail! Can't have that. Good thing we have the Department of Education to lower everyone's standards.
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        • Author by anonymiss (February 02, 2010 10:13 pm ET)
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          Do you realize the redundancy of what you just said? They ARE failing...hello? The DOE does the best they can with what they have. Let's hope Obama can clean up the steaming pile of dung that is NCLB. I think we need to ask ourselves, "IS OUR CHILDREN LEARNING YET?". The answer is clearly no, they isn't.
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          • Author by null1fy (February 03, 2010 5:53 pm ET)
               
            Schools are failing BECAUSE of the DOE feeding our children political indoctrination.

            Hello?
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    • Author by proudObamasupporter (February 03, 2010 10:25 am ET)
         
      I think anyone with an IQ above 10 should be able to figure out what Beck is all about! Money, and he is making lots of it off the idiots who watch him and buy his books.
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    • Author by vannschro (February 03, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
         
      This may be a little out of place. But, can any of you progressives explain to me what is wrong with repecting and upholding the Constitution of The United States of America?
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      • Author by rsinebada7366 (February 04, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
           
        NOTHING. I am a liberal and I believe in respect for and upholding of our Constitution including all of its various amendments.
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