Palin's tea party speech full of false and misleading national security claims
During her address before the National Tea Party Convention, Fox News contributor Sarah Palin made numerous false and misleading claims about national security and foreign policy, including suggesting that the Obama administration doesn't use the word "war," that interrogators didn't ask alleged Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab about his training and future al Qaeda plots, and that Abdulmutallab has not provided information since he "lawyered up and invoked our U.S. constitutional right to remain silent."
CLAIM: Abdulmutallab "lawyered up and invoked our U.S. constitutional right to remain silent"
From Palin's February 7 National Tea Party Convention speech:
PALIN: What followed was equally disturbing after he was captured. He was questioned for only 50 minutes. We have a choice in how to do this. The choice was only question him for 50 minutes and then read his Miranda rights. The administration says then there are no downsides or upsides to treating terrorists like civilian criminal defendants. But a lot of us would beg to differ. For example, there are questions we would have liked this foreign terrorist to answer before he lawyered up and invoked our U.S. constitutional right to remain silent. [CNN Transcripts, 2/6/10]
REALITY: Administration source reportedly says Abdulmutallab currently "cooperating," officials say he provided intelligence after being Mirandized. Responding to Senate Intelligence Committee chairwoman Sen. Diane Feinstein in a February 2 hearing (accessed via the Nexis database), FBI Director Robert Mueller agreed that "Abdulmutallab has provided valuable information" and that "the interrogation continues despite the fact that he has been Mirandized." Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair testified in the same hearing: "There are decisions that have to be made in which you balance the requirement for intelligence with the requirement for a prosecution and the sorts of pressure that you bring onto the people that you arrest in either form. It's got to be a decision made at the time. And I think the balance struck in the Mutallab was a very -- was an understandable balance. We got good intelligence, we're getting more."
Moreover, a February 2 Reuters article reported "a law enforcement official['s]" comment that "Abdulmutallab is talking and has been talking since last week providing useful, actionable and current intelligence that we've been actively following up on." The New York Times also reported:
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man accused of trying to blow up a jetliner bound for Detroit on Dec. 25, started talking to investigators after two of his family members arrived in the United States and helped earn his cooperation, a senior administration official said Tuesday evening.
Mr. Abdulmutallab, 23, began speaking to F.B.I. agents last week in Detroit and has not stopped, two government officials said. The officials declined to disclose what information was obtained from him, but said it was aiding in the investigation of the attempted terrorist attack.
"With the family, the F.B.I. approached the suspect," the senior administration official said, speaking to reporters at the White House on the condition of anonymity because of the pending legal case. "He has been cooperating for days." [New York Times, 2/2/10]
CLAIM: Abdulmutallab not interrogated about training and future plots
From Palin's February 7 National Tea Party Convention speech:
PALIN: There are questions that we would have liked answered before he lawyered up, like where exactly were you trained and by whom. You are bragging about all these other terrorists just like you, who are they? When and where will they try to strike next? [CNN Transcripts, 2/6/10]
REALITY: Interrogators reportedly sought and received such information from Abdulmutallab. Appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on January 20, FBI Director Robert Mueller testified that interrogators interviewed Abdulmutallab "to gain intelligence, intelligence about whether there's another bomb, whether other coconspirators, where'd he get the bomb" (accessed via Nexis). Also, Newsweek's Michael Isikoff reported on his blog:
While at the hospital, he was interrogated for "about an hour" by veteran FBI agents with the bureau's Joint Terrorist Task Force in Detroit. During that hour, one official said, the agents learned a wealth of information from Abdulmutallab about his connections to Al Qaeda; who he met with in Yemen; where he got the bomb that was sewn into his underwear; and "who trained him in Yemen." Added another official: "We got a lot of leads."
The Associated Press similarly reported: "Shortly after 3:30 p.m., FBI agents began interviewing the suspect in his hospital room, joined by a CBP officer and an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent. The suspect spoke openly, said one official, talking in detail about what he'd done and the planning that went into the attack. Other counterterrorism officials speaking on condition of anonymity said it was during this questioning that he admitted he had been trained and instructed in the plot by al-Qaida operatives in Yemen."
CLAIM: Obama administration uses "words like 'overseas contingency operation' instead of the word 'war' "
From Palin's February 7 National Tea Party Convention speech:
PALIN: Let me say, too, it's not politicizing our security to discuss our concerns because Americans deserve to know the truth about the threats that we face and what the administration is or isn't doing about them. So let's talk about them. New terms used like "overseas contingency operation" instead of the word "war." That reflects a world view that is out of touch with the enemy that we face. We can't spin our way out of this threat. It is one thing to call a pay raise a job created or saved. It is quite another to call the devastation that a homicide bomber can inflict a "manmade disaster." I just say, come on, Washington, if no where else, national security, that is one place where you've got to call it like it is. [CNN Transcripts, 2/6/10]
REALITY: Obama has repeatedly used the word "war." President Obama used the word "war" at least seven times during his January 27 State of the Union speech. Moreover, following Obama's January 7 remarks on the attempted Christmas Day bombing of a Northwest Airlines flight -- remarks during which Obama stated, "We are at war. We are at war with al Qaeda" -- numerous conservative media figures falsely suggested that prior to that speech, Obama had not characterized the fight against terrorists as a war. In fact, in his inaugural address, Obama stated that "[o]ur nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred," and he has repeatedly discussed terrorism as the rationale for U.S. military action abroad.
CLAIM: "Our president spent a year reaching out to hostile regimes, writing personal letters to dangerous dictators"
From Palin's February 7 National Tea Party Convention speech:
PALIN: It's that same kind of misguided thinking that is seen throughout the administration's foreign policy decisions. Our president spent a year reaching out to hostile regimes, writing personal letters to dangerous dictators and apologizing for America, and what do we have to show for that? Here's what we have to show. North Korea tested nuclear weapons and longer-range ballistic missiles. [CNN Transcripts, 2/6/10]
REALITY: Bush, Clinton also wrote personal appeals to North Korean leader. A December 6, 2007, Associated Press article reported, "President Bush's personal letter to North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, raising the possibility of normalized relations if he fully discloses his nuclear programs by year's end, is a turnabout for a president who has labeled the communist regime part of an 'axis of evil.' " AP further reported that the letter "reflected how U.S. policy toward the nation has shifted from the days when Bush shunned the dictator." Also, a May 27, 1999, Associated Press article reported, "North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, received a letter on Wednesday from President Clinton brought by a special envoy to the isolated Communist country, the official North Korean news agency reported. The envoy, William Perry, delivered the letter through Kim Yong Nam, head of North Korea's legislative Supreme People's Assembly, according to the Korean Central News Agency, which was monitored in Seoul."
















middle-of-nowhere island for that.
Second, why are we talking about her? I don't know a single progressive, conservative, or independent who would vote for her.
MMFA's best strategy would be to just remain silent. Let the elephants put her on the ticket for 2012, then kick back the Lazy Boy and watch.
Drop it MMFA! You're just giving her ilk ammunition.
When we need to fill that job classification, we'll let you know.
Don't call us, we'll call you.
MMFA will decide what they should cover, but I got to tell you, ignoring jerks and liars like her shouldn't be done, and MMFA knows that.
Wow isn't it thrilling(and chilling) to contemplate a Palin Presidency...who would she want for Secretary of State ..Tom Tancredo?Now now ..what job for Rush?..Oh no no he wouldn't take the pay cut..maybe she'd let him keep his day job..coz its so important to "REAL AMERICANS"!!!
Don't mean to sound like a pig here, but it's something I've noticed.
Are you forgetting scumbag-John Edwards? You know, the progressive icon.
No. No. No.
However, the opportunity to make the rules in public office tends to be a draw for the scummiest of us...
In the end the conservatives may be wasting a lot of energy on promoting her. There are a lot of places in this country where she could not be elected dogcatcher.
John Edwards had a massive personal failing. On everything else, he was pretty wonderful. He made a lot of money by working hard to make something of himself and by choosing a profession where he could help the little guy, hold businesses accountable, and make a ton of money for himself, all at the same time. He was a generous and thoughtful politician with many good ideas.
And because of his massive personal failing, John Edwards hasn't HAD a national voice, and I don't think he ever will again.
There's no comparison between Palin and Edwards. She's ignorant AND stupid. She's nakedly opportunistic to the detriment of her family and her constituents!
Why do you think she is given a voice in the national arena?
-Newt Gingrich
-David Vitter
-Larry Craig
-Mark Sanford
-John Ensign
-Ted Haggard
-Dan Crane
-Strom Thurmond
-Rudy Giuliani
-Bob Packwood
-Henry Hyde
-Dick Armey
-Duke Cunningham
By the way, I wonder how you guys reconcile the "sanctity of marriage" with the fact that St. Ronnie was our first divorced president.
Are you forgetting scumbag-John Edwards? You know, the progressive icon." - pong
Are you suggesting one of Sarah's kids is not Todd's. I never heard that one before. Please, pong, enlighten us to the Palin sex scandal.
her slobbering admirers.
So I assume you're against Bush's wars and the PATRIOT Act.
NOT so sure about your China example. Despite our massive debt we owe them, they're doing just fine.
What I don't understand is why Democrats sit by and allow this false image to be continually perpetuated. Republicans/conservatives have a strategy of repeated things over and over again, saying them louder and louder no matter whether they are true or not. Democrats have a strategy of rebutting once then moving on. That is why the perception of Dems being weak on fighting terrorism persists.
When conservatives lie like this, Democrats should be just as active, just as repetitive, just as loud in clearly pointing out the lies and showing the truth of the matter. Do not rebutt once then sit back and wait for the consertatives to make the next outlandish claim. Rebutt, expose the lie, rebutt, expose lie over and over again. Stop being defensive and play some offense.
She has to - it's a FOX NEWS edict.
No "Homicide bomber", no studio in her living room.
Roger Said So.
Apparently she's not only calling for antagonizing N.Korea, but in making all these BS claims about Abdulmutallab, she's putting the administration in a position where they're either forced to sit back and look weak, or release classified information to proove her wrong. Talk about putting party ahead of country! The only way for Obama to refute (or preemt) this nonsense would have been to release everything Abdulmutallab had told them right to the press... which would have immediately rendered the intel completely useless!
This chick is dangerous.
I don't know if she falls into the category of evil or stupid, but I know where her FOLLOWING falls: Squarely in middle of teh stoopid.
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It can't be said too often: This chick is dangerous.
This woman, who reportedly had to hire a city administrator to actually do the job of running the town when she was mayor of Wasilla - now presumes to offer her sage advice on the correct procedures for handling terrorists.
Consider her use of the phrase "lawyered up." Allowing a suspect to talk to an attorney might, possibly, be a hindrance in a criminal case where the cops are relying on a confession.
But with the Christmas underpants bomber - that simply isn't the case. There were dozens of witnesses, plus the physical evidence - more than enough to pretty much guarantee a conviction. In this case "lawyering up" and allowing the suspect to talk to his family only INCREASES the chances that we'll get useful information.
A lawyer and his family are going to tell the guy that it is in his best interests to cooperate with investigators.
Sarah Palin ought to stick to catching fish and shooting animals. Leave the handling of terrorists to the professionals.
There is a difference between intelligence and wisdom. Sarah has both in abundence - Obama has neither.
It was very telling, that like the Tea Party itself, Palin's speech was nothing more than a childish tirade against the Obama administration, offering no policy, no solutions and no substance.
It's easy to point fingers and blame. It's hard to actually come up with ways to solve problems.
Obama's gonna kill us
How do I know?
'Cause my Todd he told me so
He's my source of policy
He's all I need - don't ya see?
Obama hearts terrorists
How do I know?
'Cause my Todd he told me so
My ear bud died - damn battery!
But in my palm was our Plan B
(additional verses welcome)
Seriously - it's not that Sarah Palin "scares" anyone... interms of her threat to Barack Obama winning another election... it's that she scares people because just the thought of her being IN CHARGE of this country, and international reltions, is nothing short of a nightmare prospect!!
That's because you're a moran.
You know what Sarah Palin has on Barack Obama? A Sports casting stint. A beauty pageant title. ...I'm sure Obama is jealous...
EVERY President except one(and presidential nominee) has released his academic records - this is how we know President Bush had better grades and higher SATs than Jean Francois Kerry.
We know why Obama won't release his academic records - they will debunk the myth that he is intelligent. He is like the Wizard of Oz. He has an image of being big and powerful, but when you pull back the curtain or take away the TelePrompter, a tiny little man is revealed.
Sarah has one hundred times the stature little Barry Soetero could every hope to have.
You know what Sarah Palin has on Barack Obama? A Sports casting stint. A beauty pageant title. ...I'm sure Obama is jealous...
Here's the thing, lad: Reagan was willing to work with the Repub establishment and build up his credibility while also knowing when to work in the background. Palin doesn't. She's out purely for herself, and she won't get the establishment support Ronnie Raygun did.
(Also, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Reagan was a traitor.)
Eight years of Bush should have helped Americans understand that compentence means something. If Palin is serious about running for the presidency in 2012 the G.O.P. should all be locked up for not taking a hand upside her head.
If you want to have notes, you write those notes on index cards.
If you want to HIDE the fact that you need to be reminded to say stuff, you write notes on your hand instead!
Sarah was merely calling attention to this. It was a brilliant strategic gambit on her part.
Maybe she should used a teleprompter.
He did not correct anything. Barry repeated his stale hackneyed banal talking points. The GOP owned him.
...this is quite literally the stupidest thing I have ever read.
We live in America, and in America, if you don't immediately kill arrant nonsense, no matter how ridiculous, it can grow and thrive and eventually take over, like crab grass or reality shows about fat people.
-Bill Maher
Bill hit it right on the nose. Clinton was impeached, John Kerry was publicly smeared, and to this day there are those who still believe our presidents place of birth hasn't been brought to light. Sarah Palin IS that arrant nonsense, reincarnated for the likes of every conservative hack this country has produced. The idea of paying it forward was meant to help the world, but when people breathe in Sarah Palins words, and exhale them for others, its like spreading carbon monoxide. Its invisible to those of us without the right tools to detect it, and the longer it leaks out the more harm it will do. I often find humor in the stories written about her, and many others..To me its as close as humorous politics can get, but If anyone thinks this transparent humor and nonsense will disappear on its own, I think they're in for a rude awakening in the next couple years