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Right-wing media jump to defend Palin after "crib note" criticism

February 08, 2010 1:15 pm ET — 395 Comments

Right-wing media figures have rushed to defend Sarah Palin from criticism that she apparently wrote "crib notes" on her hand during her Tea Party Convention appearances by claiming, among other things, that it's a "non-issue" and that having notes on her hand was "folksy," "down to earth," and "just like busy moms."

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Right-wing media defend "busy mom" Palin's "crib note[s]" by claiming it's "folksy" and "down to earth"

Fox & Friends: Palin was "folksy," "down to earth," and "it's an exact opposite of reading off the teleprompter." On Fox News' Fox & Friends, after co-host Steve Doocy noted that the "left" was criticizing Palin for apparently using crib notes while she took a "shot at the guy who uses a teleprompter," co-host Gretchen Carlson replied, "I think she did it on purpose. Yeah, because I think it's an exact opposite of reading off the teleprompter. Reading off complete script written for you with every word in a sentence, and here she's just taking crib notes on her hand. It makes it look as if she can just talk off the cuff and that she just jotted down a few couple notes before she went off to give a big, long speech." Later, co-host Brian Kilmeade called it "folksy," and "down to earth." From the February 8 edition of Fox & Friends:

CARLSON: I think she did it on purpose.

DOOCY: You do?

CARLSON: I think she did it on purpose. Yeah, because I think it's an exact opposite of reading off the teleprompter. Reading off complete script written for you with every word in a sentence, and here she's just taking crib notes on her hand. It makes it look as if she can just talk off the cuff and that she just jotted down a few couple notes before she went off to give a big, long speech.

KILMEADE: I am jealous.

DOOCY: I think she did -- I think she did it because she probably does it a lot. I do that all the time.

KILMEADE: I personally am jealous, because I used to get in trouble if I wrote on my palms because my mom explained to me the ink would get through my pores and I would die. So I stopped doing that in the fifth grade.

DOOCY: Really?

KILMEADE: Why doesn't she just -- there's nothing wrong with if she had a card. Just jot a card down -- energy, taxes, hope, whatever it is. But -- then no one has a problem. But to sit there and look at -- do the interview and then look down at her hand, I think that is -- it's, like you said, Gretchen, before, folksy, absolutely. Down to earth. I can identify. But if you're going to write it on your hand, why not just say, staffer, can you hand me a card? And then it would have been OK.

CARLSON: Like I say, I think it was on purpose. But anyway, we may never know.


Gateway Pundit's Hoft: It's a "non-issue" for the "TelePrompter-less former Governor." On Gateway Pundit, blogger Jim Hoft wrote: "On Sunday the left went bonkers after they discovered that the TelePrompter-less former Governor Sarah Palin wrote notes on the palm of her left hand for her speech to the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville. The far left absolutely freaked over this non-issue rather than focus on her brilliant speech knocking the Obama Administration's horrid record on economics and national defense." 

NRO's Spruiell writes in defense of Palin: She "speaks from concise notes like everybody else. And, like other busy moms, she sometimes writes notes on her hand."
 Stephen Spruiell at the National Review Online blog The Corner wrote of the criticism: "On the left, where this opinion of Palin already prevails, anything which reinforces it will be picked up and cheerfully passed around. And, to the extent that anyone not on the left notices this giddy snobbery, it will play to Palin's strengths." He continued, "For example, one might say: 'Unlike the guy who needs a three thousand dollar teleprompter to get out of bed in the morning, Palin speaks from concise notes like everybody else. And, like other busy moms, she sometimes writes notes on her hand.' The comeback is so obvious that, again, I really can't figure out why Palin's detractors are bringing this up at all."

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    • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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      Why would ANYONE with the political philosophy like Sarah Palin need notes like she had to remember to talk about tax cuts or energy policy or lifting American spirits? Really? She couldn't study ahead of time, and have memorized some talking points to fit the questions that she was asked? Really? This is what 'real' politicians do - they get asked a question, and they answer the question with the talking points they want to respond with. She couldn't do that? She's that incompentent?
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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        When we watch people on shows like Washington Week or the Sunday morning talk shows, they often have notes in front of them. If you didn't know this before, watch next week, and see them glance down to their papers to ensure they cover every factoid they wanted to include. They do that because they aren't practiced politicians who have talking points that should be supported by their internal political philosophies!

        Politicians are different. And one who mocks someone for using a teleprompter shouldn't be having to write notes on her hand about straightforward issues like this.

        She's not a kid cheating on an exam in school. She was supposed to be talking about her core political beliefs. That's the failing I think this shows - Palin is very shallow, and doesn't have deep knowledge. This is a flaw that she's shown repeatedly.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (February 08, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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          And one who mocks someone for using a teleprompter shouldn't be having to write notes on her hand about straightforward issues like this.


          Yeah but Unprecedented B has to use the prompter for Sixth Graders?!

          While you're at it tell the Harvard educated B that it's Corpsmen, not Corpse-men...Just trying to help.
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          • Author by pete592 (February 08, 2010 1:49 pm ET)
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            So where are the goal posts going to move next?

            First Obama is inept for using teleprompters, then we have pictures of Palin using them, and now there's some sort of minimum age requirement for the audience?
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            • Author by wookie294 (February 08, 2010 1:54 pm ET)
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              Palin has already moved the "retard" goal post to allows Rush the opportunity to continue making fun of handicapped people. LMAO!
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            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (February 08, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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              It's very simple, pete. In TBone Slickwillieville, Republicans + teleprompters = okay. Democrats + teleprompters = bad...
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              • Author by pworrall5511 (February 08, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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                Add to this, he didn't use a teleprompter for the six graders olds but was for something for the press after the 6th graders
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                • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 3:36 pm ET)
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                  So why does Barry need the teleprompters for the press? Are the questions pre-selected then put up on the teleprompter for him to answer? Wouldn't want to get the answers wrong, would he? Or questions he's not prepared for!
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                  • Author by mary59 (February 09, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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                    Give it up, boom boom. You're trying to attack Obama where he's strong and it doesn't fly in the reality based community. There are other things to notice & criticise, but not this.
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                  • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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                    He uses a teleprompter when reading speeches so that he doesn't waste time memorizing a speech - he's got a few more important things to keep himself busy, you know!!!

                    It wasn't a question and answer session he was using it in, you doofus. It was for his prepared remarks for the press. Do you get some perverse pleasure from providing evidence that you're so highly politically partisan that you can't think straight?
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          • Author by rusty hinges (February 08, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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            That talking point has been proven false.
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          • Author by mhughen (February 08, 2010 1:58 pm ET)
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            I love it when the anti-intellectual right-wing uses "harvard educated" as a slur AGAINST Obama. Freakin morons forget that GWBush was a (mediocre) Harvard Business School graduate!!!

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            • Author by LJane (February 08, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
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              Was Obama a mediocre graduate? I haven't seen his grades, have you?

              Why is that?
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              • Author by dbtexas (February 08, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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                Yeah, only the low brows get to be editor of the law review. Wanna try another tact?
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                • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 08, 2010 4:33 pm ET)
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                  And don't forget about the above average men who became Cheerleaders at Harvard, LOL.
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                  • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 9:49 am ET)
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                    Bush was a cheerleader for Yale because he was too manly to be a football player.
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              • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 9:51 am ET)
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                Because you didn't do any research. If you're curious about something do research, Even a mediocre person can do that.
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            • Author by indictgwbush (February 08, 2010 5:20 pm ET)
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              And lest we forget that ws' grades weren't good enough to get accepted to the university of Texas.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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                What's your source for that claim?
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 11:45 pm ET)
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                Since the original poster failed to document his claims I looked it up myself, and what it looks like to me is that reportedly his grades weren't good enough to get him into the University of Texas Law School. That's different than just the undergrad university 40 years ago. Lots of people don't get into law school, and grades are only one factor.

                He was easily accepted into the undergrad program at UT - that was one of his safe, back-up schools.
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            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
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              I'm no fan of GW....but...he graduated with higher grades than Kerry. Kerry was none-to-pleased that Tim Russert was going to let that cat out of the bag. Can we drop the 'idiot' thing yet?

              Otherwise, its just one side pointing out Obama saying dumb stuff and the other saying Bush is the idiot. Stupid isnt it.
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              • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:04 am ET)
                   
                Interesting construction: In your view it is evident and obvious that Obama says "dumb stuff" and the right merely needs to point it out so that it will be revealed to all. Meanwhile, those who hold that Bush is "the idiot" are merely making a claim that is not self-evident.

                Yes, it is rather stupid.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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              Actually Bush was a Yalie. Make of it what you will.
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          • Author by ConstanceRifleII (February 08, 2010 2:16 pm ET)
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            If you're just trying to help, you might want to check you facts. Obama held a PRESS CONFERENCE at the school, after talking to the children without the podium and teleprompter. He was addressing reporters. Now, whether or not reporters can be considered sixth graders, that's another matter.

            Oh, and that link is to Mr. Instapundit himself.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:22 pm ET)
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            Duh, massive FAIL.

            1) He did NOT use the teleprompter for the address he gave for the sixth-graders. Massive FAIL. Maybe YOU need to go back to sixth grade. Most of us educated people know to verify stories before we run with them. Factcheck knocked the teleprompter meme out of the water last week.

            2) This distain for teleprompters is ridiculous. It doesn't make sense for the President to have to waste time to memorize speeches - so they are written down. He can be looking at his speech on paper, or he can be looking at his audience. I mean, this is why people memorize speeches, so they can be looking up instead of reading their notes. Using a teleprompter is the right and proper thing to do! It's ludicrous to suggest that there's something wrong with it when one considers the alternatives!!!

            3) So, likely he'd never seen the word written before, and didn't know how it was pronounced. Omigod. What a shock. My son, who taught himself to read when he was 3, pronounced "character" with a "ch" sound at the beginning, because "character" isn't a word that one says in common conversation very often. He also pronounced "opponent" like "opposite". He'd heard "opp-o-site". He'd never heard "o-po-nent", so he pronounced it like it looked to him. You can bet that Obama will never mispronounce it again! He made an error. It's not comparable to Sarah Palin needing crib notes to remember her 'core values' like tax cuts and energy issues! Why would she need a reminder to talk about those things unless she's ignorant and a talking head without much of a brain INSIDE that head?
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            • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 08, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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              And what about when Sarah asked VP Biden if she could call him Joe, yet still confused the word Joe with O'Biden? LOL.

              Bottom line, Sarah Palin sees Russia from her house and will need to read notes on her palm to know what to do if there was a breach. Huh? Yeap, this is ONE crucial credential to have when running for President as a Conservative, Right-winged Republican name Sarah Palin. Uh, oh. LOL.
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            • Author by mattcable250650 (February 08, 2010 8:14 pm ET)
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              I heartily agree that to whine and groan about someone using a teleprompter is complete idiocy. Words in politic can be useless and irrelevant, but there are times and places when people are paying close attention and when the precise words used matter and matter a great deal. In a health care speech, people noticed when Obama didn't mention the public option. Senator Lieberman took that as a confirmation that he could toss the public option overboard.
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            • Author by coldteablues19577325 (February 09, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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              "This distain for teleprompters is ridiculous." --DellDolly

              I don't get it either. MSM and other pundits use it all the time, and it's okay for them? Why is it not okay for the president when giving a speech? Presidents and other speech-givers have long used notes when giving speeches, so what's the issue with moving into the 20th/21st century and using teleprompters?
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            • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 3:51 pm ET)
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              1) Wow, he needs teleprompters to talk to the media. Does he have to have his questions pre-screened for him, and someone to give him the answers?
              2) The issue is that he can't seem to handle giving a speech WITHOUT a teleprompter.
              3) It's nice that you equate Obama with your 3 year old. It's terrible when a supposedly college educated person has a hard time with simple words. Do you really think that Sarah writing a few notes on her hand for a speech she didn't need a teleprompter for really compares to the Commander-in-Chief mispronouncing titles of people in the military? I'm beginning you doubt your initial assertion "Most of us educated people" that you are included in that group.
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              • Author by mary59 (February 09, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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                Lame. The issue is that you run from real issues and use fake ones like this to deflect from palm pilot palin.
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                • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
                     
                  Running from what? I didn't make a few words written on her hand an issue, the media did.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 4:50 pm ET)
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                "Corpsman" is a simple word?

                On what planet?

                And Sarah Palin stupidly used a written copy of her speech - that's really ignorant, in this day and age, to insist on a paper copy of a speech, so that your audience sees the top of your head every few moments.
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                • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
                     
                  Uh, this one! Maybe it's too hard for you. The word is also used in Peace Corps, News Corps, Press Corps. Do any of these sound familiar?
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          • Author by mk3872 (February 08, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
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            FYI, Tbone, Obama was speaking to the media in a classroom, he was not speaking to 6th graders.

            When he spoke to the children, there were no teleprompters.

            BTW, what did you think of the teleprompters St. Palin used on the campaign stump in 2008?

            At least Obama doesn't need crib sheets to answer simple pre-screened questions ...
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          • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
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            Oh boy, the speech Obama gave using a telepromptor was on education. He didn't need teleprompters to speak to 6th graders...Jezzz,I've seen cons raise these same two points on another site. My,my so much for independent thinkers.POTUS mispronounced a word,OMG next you'll be calling for his impeachment. What was the narrative you cons were passing around before?...that the president just gave good speeches, now you want to attack him for using something ever president in recent history has used? Do you really want to go the teleprompter attack route after the arse kicking he gave the Republicans a few weeks ago. C'mon need-to-bone-up Obama was giving a policy speech on education to the nation and if mispronouncing a word was a national security concern GWB would have been impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors."

            The fact of the matter that you would like to distract us from is that Palin was not giving a speech she was answering pre-selected questions(she knew the questions before hand)from a partisan audience that paid from $350-$550 to hear her. She's scribbling notes on her hand to questions she's been preped on, while critcizing the President for using a teleprompter and the hyprocrisy is lost on you? Hehehe! P.T. Barnum's maxim still rings true every second.
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            • Author by dogbreath (February 08, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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              This whole thing is humorous to me. I love how Obama is getting slack for misprounouncing one word, when Palin cannot even speak in complete sentences. The mispronunciation issue is really interesting given the fact that Bush said something EVERY day of his presidency that was either mispronounced or not even a recognized word in the English language. I don't think that is a misunderestimation either!
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              • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 08, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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                "ROTFLMAO"....THANKS.
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              • Author by prtsimmons (February 09, 2010 2:11 pm ET)
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                Great point. I just checked out an on-line list of the 50 Greatest Bushisms... I feel great now that I've had a good laugh. Can you imagine the equivalent list of Obama's goof-ups? "Obama's Top Three Minor Mispronunciations". Even the RW bloggers can't make Obama's minor gaffes into something important after we all witnessed Dubya's constant mauling of language and logic.

                "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." -- G.W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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            • Author by indictgwbush (February 08, 2010 5:25 pm ET)
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              Where would saint ronnie(enemy of the middleclass)have been without a teleprompter?
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          • Author by trelan1701 (February 08, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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            And yet, he didn't need a teleprompter to embarrass the GOP in a live session they couldn't edit. Except Fox edited it anyway. Surprise!
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            • Author by albertsenj (February 09, 2010 1:28 am ET)
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              Well Fox couldn't find anything to 'balance' against the live video of shellacking the GOP got from President Obama that day and it just didn't fit what they'd led their viewers to 'decide'.

              Now, the GOP is backing away from talking with Obama in public about healthcare on the 25th.
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          • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 08, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
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            Did you hear this one liner from Rush today? Rush was in awe of himself with making fun about the same thing. Hmmm, you Republicans really do spread those ONE liners around don't you? LOL.
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          • Author by txthinker (February 08, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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            Yeah but Unprecedented B has to use the prompter for Sixth Graders?!

            Wrong as usual, T Boone.

            When Obama spoke to those Sixth Graders, he did not use the teleprompter. It was there for when he read a prepared statement to the press.

            Please get you facts straight, M'kay???

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          • Author by Publius39 (February 08, 2010 6:16 pm ET)
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            Well, being in the Marine Corps and having to deal with Corpsmen, I can say that it is very easy to some who don't have a background in the military to pronounce the p in the word. That's a little too sensitive to be an objective criticism of the president.
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          • Author by rendesign (February 08, 2010 11:27 pm ET)
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            While you're at it, tell George Bush that it is nuclear...NOT NUCULAR By the way, he also used a teleprompter with that word clearly spelled out right in his face and still couldn't pronounce it.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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            Corps WAS pronounced corpse back in the day. You know why? Because the word originates from the French word MEANING corpse. Two seconds of research confirmed that. But I guess it's a crime in Right wing world to use French terms. So what do you call Hors d'oeuvres.
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            • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 5:25 pm ET)
                 
              Here is you research:
              [kɔr] masculine body; mort (dead) body, corpse; military corps; prendre corps take shape; le corps diplomatique the diplomatic corps; le corps électoral the electorate; corps étranger foreign body; corps expéditionnaire task force; corps médical medical profession
              Notice the difference between c-o-r-p-s and c-o-r-p-s-e. Only in reference to a dead body is the -pse annunciated.
              So do you annunciate the H in Hors as well?
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          • Author by open_mind (February 09, 2010 11:03 am ET)
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            Yeah but Unprecedented B has to use the prompter for Sixth Graders?!
            Sixth Graders can be a tough audience. They are very intelligent. Now 140 Republicans is apparently a piece of cake.
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          • Author by CrashGordon (February 09, 2010 1:15 pm ET)
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            Debunked!

            At least vet your sources before you use them as proof.
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          • Author by coldteablues19577325 (February 09, 2010 3:41 pm ET)
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            "While you're at it tell the Harvard educated B that it's Corpsmen, not Corpse-men...Just trying to help.
            " --TBone


            So what's your point, that the president is also the one who types in the teleprompter feed?
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        • Author by gg (February 08, 2010 2:37 pm ET)
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          I agree, if these are her core beliefs why does she need a crib sheet to know what they are, and if they are not her core beliefs whose are they?
          Though with her notes on her hand she has sewed up the junior high vote.
          Sarah's new slogan "Talk to the Hand"
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        • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (February 08, 2010 7:16 pm ET)
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          So if Sara is shallow for a couple of notes on her hand "HI MOM" the what the heck ids Obama for having to use a teleprompter for a 6th grade speech, or ANY speech for that matter... He uses a Teleprompter over 90% of the time he speaks in public or is interviewed... You just dumb...
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          • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:17 pm ET)
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            Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself this way, ABBA humjob? First, using broken English, you repeat a debunked talking point about President Obama using a teleprompter to speak to 6th graders (... the what the heck ids Obama for having to use teleprompter for a 6th grade speech...), and then follow that up with a clearly made up claim about the FREQUENCY with which the President uses a teleprompter (... He uses a teleprompter over 90% of the time he speaks in public or is interviewed..."). You then top that all off with an insult that is simply majestic in its lack of self awareness ("... You just dumb...").

            A little piece of free advice, Mr. humjob: if you're going to criticize and insult people for their communication skills, make sure that you have your facts straight, and do it in something that at least distantly resembles proper English. Otherwise, you come off as an arrogant, uninformed, mush-mouthed, critical thinking-impaired Rushbot ditto head.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 11:52 pm ET)
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            Only stupid people who have a teleprompter available would choose to not use one.

            It keeps you from having to choose between wasting time memorizing a speech or reading from the podium and not being able to look out towards your audience. Neither choice is the best option is the best one if a teleprompter is available!

            It is DUMB to NOT use a teleprompter.

            It's even dumber to not understand that it's dumb to not use one.

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          • Author by TURK 63 (February 09, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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            Maybe he uses a teleprompter so people don’t misunderestimate his strategery.
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          • Author by TX (February 09, 2010 2:46 pm ET)
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            The way Obama looks from side to side while reading off the telepromoters drives me nuts, it's so distracting I can barely stand to watch (or listen) for that matter! It's like watching a cat watch a tennis ball go back and forth. It's called EYE CONTACT! Look forward, memorizes SOME of the speech and get off the stupid telepromtors.

            Of course, who knows what things would be like nowadays if he actually thought for himself instead of having everything scripted for him...
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            • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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              He does this, just like your pastor does in church if he memorizes his sermon, to have eye contact WITH THE AUDIENCE that is in the room, you fool.

              It's the way it's always been done, but somehow you fault Obama for it?

              Thanks for showing us that you aren't being sincere.
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              • Author by TX (February 10, 2010 9:09 am ET)
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                Typical response, immediately resort to name calling when you don't like something I said.

                My pastor didn't use telepromters during his sermon, instead he started from the pulpit and then moved around and made a point to stop and have direct eye contact with is audience. I know other people and past President's used teleprompters - I'm not denying that. I was simply stating that watching him go back and forth drives me crazy!
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 10, 2010 10:16 am ET)
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                  Wow. Ready here wants Obama to make eye contact with him through the television. Did it occur to you that he is making eye contact with the actual audience rather than the TV audience? Wake up and stop getting your "news" from hate radio and Fox - it is making you look silly and simple. If you want to see Obama work without any notes, watch the Q&A session when he completely wiped the floor with the Republicans and your silly talking points. It got so bad your trusted fair and balanced network had to cut away.
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        • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (February 08, 2010 7:20 pm ET)
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          You are a real treat dulldolly - how very pathetic... comment on Barry's near constant use of the teleprompter.. Then he can't even read corpsman he read "corpse man"... big difference and HE was READING... Suppose your going to call me a racist "troll", claiming it's a Kenyan dialect... pathetic...
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          • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:19 pm ET)
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            Yes, your post was indeed pathetic, ABBA humjob.
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          • Author by Johaely (February 08, 2010 8:33 pm ET)
               
            Funny you bring both of them up. Do you have any video proof about Obama using a telepropter on interviews and while talking to children? And about Corpse(man)/Corps(man), the words are homophonous, unless you have some sort of drawl.
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          • Author by Dee Dee (February 08, 2010 9:57 pm ET)
               
            Teleprompters are used for speeches. The last 4 presidents used them, elected officials uses them, newsreporters uses them. The rigth-wing have nothing. They been touting this only since President Obama's been using them and never when anyone else has. So, when Sarah said, "O Biden during the vice-president debate and during the tea party speech pronounced "nuclear" (noo-clear)like bush did, instead of ( noo-klee-er)that's o.k. You and her are the ones pathetic. She took all those people to the bank @ $500 a pop. Hubby was in the parking lot with the engine running waiting for her to try to get hurry to the bank.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 11:58 pm ET)
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            He's very smart to use a teleprompter whenever possible. It make sense to not waste time memorizing speeches and when one uses a teleprompter, you don't have your face looking down at a typed speech.

            It's not my fault you and others haven't thought through the criticism of using a teleprompter!

            And mispronouncing corpsman? An easy mistake to make.

            And I have no idea why you think that it'd be HARDER to mispronounce it since he was reading it - that's WHY he mispronounced it - because he was reading it, and he wasn't just repeating someone else who was saying it!

            You DO know that there's a p and an s in the written word corpsman, right?
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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            Corpse is the original French pronunciation of the word corps, Which is the original word from which Corps comes from.
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      • Author by rkcomments (February 08, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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        Hey doocy, unlike your mom and Palin, my mom is smart and never wrote on her palms. My mom is NOT a MORON. Stop insulting American Moms.
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        • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
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          I have written on my hand a few times in my life to remind me of important things I might forget.

          I'll never forget my core beliefs though. That's what Palin wrote down, supposed core beliefs. For a scripted Q&A!
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (February 08, 2010 7:13 pm ET)
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            Especially since she's been on this same "script" since she was nominated for V.P. She never says anything new or different. That's why this is so hilarious - she can't remember the talking points she's repeated 1,000's of times.
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          • Author by b-normal (February 08, 2010 10:14 pm ET)
               
            Everybody. She is in it to make money for herself and her family. Just like Glen and Rush. Beware of wolfs in sheep clothing!!!!!
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        • Author by kcboomer (February 09, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
             
          So I guess it's ok for you to insult Doocy's mom and Palin?
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      • Author by DeirdreFlanagan6 (February 08, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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        Since Sarie has never let facts get in her way...she doesn't need notes...her sing-songie, not-stop, incomprehensible, run-on, wack-a-doodle, eye-spinning answers on Fox Sunday was done w/o notes on her hands....remarkable. If I heard her invent one more verb/adverb form I was going to bite through my lip...why doesn't someone...anyone ask her what a specific word actually means?
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        • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 08, 2010 4:50 pm ET)
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          Hee, hee. Did you see Ed Schultz try to follow what Sarah was talking about during her speech at the Tea Party? Ed looked drenced in 'what-the-h$ll-was-that' when trying to discuss what Palin said. It was toooo funnnnny. LOL.
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      • Author by progressivevoicedaily (February 08, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
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        How does any right winger not have their talking points memorized? This shows how unqualified she really is. If you can't recite the talking points verbatim than your not watching enough Fox News Mrs. Palin. Shame on you. She got mixed up about half way through the speech and the whole thing almost derailed right in front of our eyes. One of these speeches it will, and I hope the camera's are there to catch her run of the stage crying!!! Of course it will be all the 'Liberal Media's' fault.
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        • Author by Mah (February 08, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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          I think I can quote her talking points, since Ive been hearing the same thing over and over and over again ever since the campaign...tax cuts, Im really good with energy, Obama is a terrorist...

          I just can not even begin to understand how she doesn't know something that she has been repeating ad nauseum for over a year and a half.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (February 09, 2010 7:23 pm ET)
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        DELLDOLLY,I believe the answer is yes.She was her in TEXAS and got a big cheer when she mentioned SECESSION. We fought a bloody CIVIL WAR over that issue.She should have her clock cleaned over that but no one will call her out on it. These wingnuts are really losing it.
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    • Author by achorn316 (February 08, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
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      despite what the righties say, it shows she cant even remember the answer to a pre-screened question that she knew in advance.

      Thats why she isnt interviewed by anyone other than Fox. The hard questions wouldnt be given to her in advance, and she wouldnt be able to WRITE THE ANSWERS ON HER HAND!
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    • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
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      So I guess MMfA thinks it is an issue? Well it isn't, who cares? It's as much of an issue as these reflexive right wingers who say she wrote notes on her hand because she's a "busy mom". Lol

      It's amazing the silliness that the media covers these days, not to mention those watchdoggers that monitor it.
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      • Author by worrierking (February 08, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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        Palin made it an issue by using her hand to hold her "core" values while criticizing the President for using a teleprompter. Something every president has used since teleprompters were invented.

        It goes to the hypocrisy of Palin and her followers. We have big problems in the country and her side has no solutions, only slogans which can be condensed to fit in their palms.
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        • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 1:46 pm ET)
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          I share your opinion completely on Palin, don't misunderstand. She is a shallow and phony opportunist with nothing but crowd pleasing slogans. But I hardly think this is some issue, she criticizes Obama on everything and never offers anything of substance - because she has none.
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          • Author by captain_mike (February 08, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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            I think it is more a source of amusement than an "issue".

            Palin is divorced from the issues and has no grasp of reality. In her reality things like seeing Russia from Alaska, becoming a born-again virgin, and quitting the only real position of responsibility she ever had as a springboard to the Presidency of the United States are all possible.

            I wish her great success. I hope the Republicans nominate her to run for President in 2012. I can't think of a better way for them to enable a second term for President Barack H. Obama...who may not be all many of us hoped he would be but who is a damn site better than what we've had for some time and, given another seven years of opportunity, might actually figure out what it is that the majority of Americans expect from a President and how to deliver that to his country.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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            MMFA's point isn't about Palin though. It's about the rightwing media defending her.
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            • Author by Max Credits (February 08, 2010 2:35 pm ET)
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              Perhaps if right ON were to write "Media Matters" on his palm and consulted it prior to posting, others would not have to explain to him WTIH every so often.
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              • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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                And you don't ever see the dots.
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                • Author by Max Credits (February 08, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
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                  Let's try these dots... If Fox & Friends, Gateway Pundit and NRO did not defend Palin's handy work, would Media Matters have posted this item?
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                  • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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                    If you think what's on Sarah Palin's palm is an issue worth covering, then you go with that.
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                    • Author by Max Credits (February 08, 2010 2:58 pm ET)
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                      Now that you mention it, the more time right wing media spends telling stupid lies, the less time they can devote to telling lies that damage America. Good point.
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                      • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 3:12 pm ET)
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                        Glad to see you agree, it's stupid. Now see, that wasn't so hard was it?
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                        • Author by Max Credits (February 08, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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                          Hard would be having to accept that one's political beliefs are aligned with Palin and her defenders.
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                    • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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                      They aren't COVERING what was on Sarah Palin's hand though.

                      They're covering the rightwing media making excuses for Palin.

                      No legitimate news organization makes excuses for ANY politician!

                      This is not rocket science, but you're so determined to try to TURN this into a discussion about what she wrote that it's clear that it scares you for us to discuss how FoxNews shouldn't be making excuses for a politician!!!
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                    • Author by papa bear3 (February 08, 2010 8:37 pm ET)
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                      YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!
                      It is the Stigmata, this is how she receives her talking points, they are of divine origin!!


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            • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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              Palin is the issue that the rightwing media is defending. You are so literal and can never seem to connect simple dots. Or you're just argumentative, either one is meh.
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              • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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                right ON/Tommy would only need on crib on his hand: WITH. He's a one-trick pony, unless it's a gay issue.

                By the way, I was impressed by The Who's tribute to you yesterday.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
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                The ISSUE is FoxNews and other media creating excuses for Palin.

                It doesn't MATTER, not one bit, WHAT she did that they are creating excuses for. What she did is irrelevant!!! It's their excuse-creating that's the problem. It's their defending a politician for ANYTHING that's an issue. It's ANY media coming to the defense of ANY politician on either side of the aisle that would be the problematic behavior for a legitimate news organization.

                Thanks for your continuing efforts to show us how scared you are of us addressing the topic of FoxNews and others doing what no legit news organization would do!!!
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            • Author by riverdog (February 08, 2010 6:03 pm ET)
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              defending her from what exactly, left wing loons? stupid non issue, so she writes on her hand. so what.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 6:19 pm ET)
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                The issue is NOT what she wrote on her hand.

                It's FoxNews and other rightwing media sources defending her and making excuses for her!

                But her writing notes on her hand SHOULD be an issue for any of her fans.

                She was being dishonest. She was pretending that she didn't need any reminders, so she didn't have any index cards, but she did need reminders - reminders about her core talking points, as a matter of fact. You should care about her dishonesty.

                It's telling that you don't care about her disingenuous behavior.
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            • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (February 08, 2010 7:22 pm ET)
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              and the left-wing nutter media doesn't defend Obama ? AND get a tingle up the leg??
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              • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:29 pm ET)
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                That's your best shot? Cliched and vapid right wing talking points are the best that you can do?

                Pathetic.
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              • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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                No that's your side that gets tingles up your legs, Before it was Bush with his bunched up Depends in the flight suit that confused right wingers in thinking it was his manhood and got them so excited. Now it's Palin with her naughty librarian looks.
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          • Author by dbtexas (February 08, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
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            Wow! Never thought I would agree with "right ON". Thanks!
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 09, 2010 4:08 pm ET)
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            I agree. I also do not understand why she continues to garner so much attention. Her national ticket got whupped, she quit her governor's job halfway through. She is a facebook blogger that fails to ever get her facts straight. Who cares what she thinks? If this is the best the Republicans have to offer, Obama has absolutely nothing to worry about.
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      • Author by eb (February 08, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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        The Fox people started telepromptergate. Teleprompters have been around for years but all of the sudden they imply sinister motives since everything Obama does must be sinister by definition. The funny thing is that now that the right has stigmitized telepromters, it will be difficult for right wing politicians to use them without taking on all that anti-teleprompter baggage. You could say that for the fox people, it is not politically correct to use a teleprompter anymore- notes are ok for now until Obama starts using them.

        Fox and friend, hannity, rush, Beck, run the risk of backing themselves into a corner by demonizing such a large segment of our political discourse and ideas. By attacking so much with such a broad brush, the run the risk of looking like hypocrites when they need a teleprompter or think that something might require a progressive type of intervention. Of course, looking like hypocrites is nothing new for these bunch.

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        • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:34 pm ET)
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          I'm particularly amused at how often these Faux News personalities attacking President Obama for using a teleprompter are doing this WHILE READING A SCRIPT OFF OF THEIR OWN TELEPROMPTERS!!!

          They are the very definition of hypocrisy.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
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        The rightwing 'defending' Palin is the issue that MMFA is discussing here.

        It's not proper for them to defend her. That's not their job!!!

        But thanks for showing us that you still don't know what this site does and why. The research posts are for factual research and information when there is stuff in the media that furthers the conservative agenda.

        Covering for Palin furthers the conservative agenda. It IS an issue when that happens.
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        • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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          These are empty headed talking heads on a morning cable show and partisan hack bloggers giving their endless opinions, they are not reporters reporting on her. You can't be that stupid to think they are all the same.
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          • Author by pongotwistleton (February 08, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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            You can't be that stupid to think they are all the same.

            Are you new here?
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            • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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              Rhetorical
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              • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 4:21 pm ET)
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                This is one article out of over 30 on this site covering different topics of conservative misinformation. I think it is getting the amount of attention it deserves. You very rearely find any topic MMFA covers as pertinent.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
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            They are members of the rightwing media.

            Thanks for showing us how scared you are of us talking about this issue, despite your assertion above that these people doing this behavior are supposedly small fry and not worthy of any attention!!!
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            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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              Scared? LOL. This thread has over 200 comments in less than a day. Sarah Palin scares the hell out of you (and many others). Excuse me for enjoying this 'controvery'.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:04 am ET)
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                And very few of the comments (and NONE from the poster to whom my post was directed to)are about how the rightwing media made excuses for Palin, which is not the way that a legit news organization should behave!

                Someone who was not talking about the actual topic of this article is scared to talk about that topic.

                The fact that this thread has over 200 comments isn't a sign that we're scared of ANYTHING your side of the aisle has to offer! It's a sign that we're very interested in doing all we can to protect our nation from people like Palin and her supporters. You act like that concern is because she's so 'good'. It's because she's so very, very bad.
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              • Author by open_mind (February 09, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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                Sarah Palin scares the hell out of you (and many others).
                Damn straight, she scares the hell out of me. Just not in the way you nutjobs think it does. We don't want or need another George W. Bush Presidency, thanks.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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                If you had any sense she would scare the heck out of you too, but then you choose MaineiacMan as your tag, nuff' said.
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 09, 2010 4:13 pm ET)
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                  I can assure you she does not scare Obama. Fox News and hate radio can gin up this tea party base into a lather all they want. They are a very rabid, very partisan, very niche sector of the electorate. Their electoral impotence has been proven over and over again. If the Republican party were smart, they would be appealing to the millions of independent Americans in the moderate middle that tend to agree with some of the conservative agenda (at least what used to be their agenda). Obama would love nothing more than the rabid right to continue to run the Republican party and run a Palin or a Tancredo against him. That would be an electoral bloodbath.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
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                    I understand what you're saying MH and I agree. The fear I was speaking about was the ability of demagogues to use the fear,anger and frustration generated by a economy tittering on the brink of collaspe to push the country into accepting policies that will destroy us.
                    Just look at those here who find anyway to defend SP despite all the facts. I'am afraid that the noise machine they have created along with the unleashing by the Supremes of limitless money by corporations into our political system will drown out the peoples voices and their needs.
                    The Republicans don't believe in HCR,or SS, public education,DOE or any of that yet they were able to sell a segment of this population to go against their own self-interest. "Keep government hands off my medicare!" Then they have the nerve to NOW come out with their plan for America and what is it? Privitize SS, cut Medicare and ration care for grandma.People are searching for answers and alot of what their getting is demagoguery parading as solutions. The voices of those who point the fingers at the disenfranchised and poor,the middle-class are heard far more often than the voices talking about the greed and robbery of Wall St. Even though we won the election those who would want to us to march backward in history seem to be screaming the loudest and that is the danger I see in Palin. She is scary because her ignorance is celebrated and defended instead of mocked and ridiculed. The mantra of "states right"(once the clarion call of the segregationist and the seccessionist)have garnered an ear again,and nativism is on the rise and despite the efforts of those with good will the policies we get are so watered down the effects are slow to realize and not deep enough to solve the problems again creating more room for the scoundrels to plan and manuever in the interest of their corporate pimps. Glenn Beck,Sarah Palin and others are able to gain audiences because of the uncertainty in peoples lives. Histroically demagogues have used national histrical antagonism to mislead and divide the people. In Europe and particularly in Germany Hitler blamed the Jews and the Communist for the ills of the German people. Is it any wonder that here in the good ole USA with our particular history of subjugating the native americans,enslavement of the Africans, and the manifest destiny that saw us take over half of Mexico aka.,the Southwest and California ,the progressive movements that led to the new deal and labor reform that ACORN,progressives(trade unionist)and people of color are being targeted as the anvil dragging America down? The fear I have is not in the superiority of the arguments and solutions being proposed by the like of Palin et.al., but in the abilty of those with money and power to figure out ways to fool and divide the people into accepting policies contrary to their own interest. The old axiom of "figures don't lie but liars can figure" comes to mind.
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                    • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 10, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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                      Sorry, congero. I pretty much agree with your sentiment. I was actually responding to Maniac. I am just not very good with the computer, I guess. I always get mixed up going through a long thread.
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        • Author by ABBA|Proudly teaBAGGING Liberals (February 08, 2010 7:23 pm ET)
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          uh wait... it's not the "right-wing" medias job to defend Sara, but it's OK for the left-wing nutter MSM to defend Barry? Hmmm... I get it.
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          • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:36 pm ET)
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            No, you don't.

            And I doubt if you ever will.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:06 am ET)
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            It wouldn't be right for anyone in the media to create excuses for ANY politician.

            Exposing the public to factual information that debunks rightwing talking points is NOT 'defending' Obama. It's defending the truth.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:06 am ET)
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            When does the MSM defend Obama? Especially for a character flaw? Fox News constantly defends right wingers for their shortcomings, ESPECIALLY if it's hypocritical.
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      • Author by trelan1701 (February 08, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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        Honestly, if the right didn't make such a big deal about teleprompters and leapt so hard to defend her, I wouldn't even give this a second glance. Politics is complicated stuff and even a seasoned public speaker needs help occasionally.

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    • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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      Be careful -- very careful -- we have a president who cannot apparently get along without teleprompter support for just about every speech, presentation!
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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        He sure did knock the slates out of a bunch of GOP Congressmen the other day in his totally off-the-cuff replies to their typed up questions.

        BTW, you are aware that Palin usually uses a teleprompter or she has the typewritten speech on the podium in front of her like she did the other day, right? So did Bush and every other modern president. So do the folks like Hannity, O'Reilly, et al, who use this very, very tired meme.
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        • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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          Exactly. They all use teleprompters for nearly every word they utter these days. What with the 24/7 news cycle and everything recorded and any gaffe played to the hilt, they are all so nervous and scared of making any little slip-up. If they make an off-the-cuff remark somebody will be right there to use it for some political maneuvering against them. We have forced them all to be robots and not just human beings anymore.
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          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (February 08, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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            Then, RO, your problem should be with the cretins who decided to phony up this whole teleprompter issue in the first place. And that "nearly every word" thing was rather thoroughly shredded when Obama went in front of 140 Republicans--without a teleprompter--and handed them all their collective heads...
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            • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:02 pm ET)
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              If the topic were the cretins who decided to phony up this whole teleprompter issue in the first place, then I would say that was also a non-issue. Contact the folks here at MMfA as a thread suggestion if you are so eager to see my opinion on it.
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              • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (February 08, 2010 2:08 pm ET)
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                IOW, liberals are simply supposed to STFU every time the right-wing shriekbags decide to phony up a new fake issue with which to attack. Yep. Got it. Check...
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                • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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                  And I am not supposed to say that I think this is a phony non issue unless I also include my opinion on how you believe the entire issue got started in the first place? Get over your whine.
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                  • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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                    And I am not supposed to say that I think this is a phony non issue...
                    If you did that, you'd be utterly silent.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 4:27 pm ET)
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                    "And I am not supposed to say that I think this is a phony non issue..." RO

                    You think every issue they report on is a non-issue, that is your major complaint in almost every post. But you see this is just 1 article @ a site that has over 30 articles daily about different topics involving conservative misinformation.
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                    • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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                      Somehow Tommy long ago decided that he was going to be the hall monitor around here; telling MMFA what they should and should not publish. Oddly, they never seem to listen to him. It reminds me of fundies who pray and pray and the prayers are never answered beyond the probability of statistical chance. Wouldn't someone get the hint that it doesn't work at some point?
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                      • Author by foghornleghorn (February 08, 2010 7:16 pm ET)
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                        Except for his opinions on gays and religion, Tommy is a fraud. He's intellectually dishonest because he can see through the misinformation, but doesn't care that there are millions out there who can't.
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            • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:22 am ET)
                 
              It should be noted that HoR Repos had Frank Luntz and several days to prepare the questions with they hoped to trap President Obama. The score stands:
              Phony, staged, contrived: GOPper House members.
              Extemporaneous, articulate, and in comand: PotUS.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:35 pm ET)
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            They use teleprompters rather than wasting time memorizing speeches.

            That's a good thing. If they can read it, and not make it sound like they are reading something, then they have more time to do the jobs they are supposed to be doing, rather than spending time memorizing a speech!!!

            The reason they either memorize a speech or use a teleprompter? So they are looking out at the audience or the TV cameras. It's the same reason that everyone on TV uses cue cards or a teleprompter for prepared remarks.

            It's been this way for decades. It's not a new thing that's being done in reaction to the 24/7 news cycle. What politicians used to do is waste time memorizing speeches. Once teleprompters were perfected, they stopped wasting that memorization time.
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            • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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              Stop your stupid arguing every point I make. If you don't think the 24/7 cable networks have had an impact on politicians unwillingness to be more spontaneous, then you have no business commenting on a website about the media and politics.
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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                No, when anyone makes a bogus argument, I will refute it.

                The person who needs to stop with the kneejerk reactions would be you.

                The 24/7 news cycle didn't affect this. Politicians used to memorize speeches or read directly from their notes on a podiums. Then, once teleprompters were perfected, they started using those. It was not a reaction to a 24/7 news cycle.

                It's not my fault your conclusion that it was a reaction to cable news wasn't a reasonable conclusion to come to. If you ignore that politicians used to memorize speeches so they could look at their audiences, then it might be a reasonable assumption, but given ALL the known facts, it's not. Too bad, so sad.

                They take advantage of that technology so that they ensure they smoothly get across all their points.
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                • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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                  I was right, you really have no business commenting here.
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                  • Author by peace4all (February 08, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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                    if you are right, it would be the first time.
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                  • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:43 pm ET)
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                    Tommy, who the hell are you to decide who does or doesn't have business commenting here? Are you under the impression that this is your private forum? You really DO think that you're the hall monitor here, don't you?
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                • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:14 am ET)
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                  Lyndon Johnson used a teleprompter. Did we have 24/7 cable news back then? They've been used ever since.

                  So, want to take back your false talking point that they're used to mitigate problems due to the 24/7 news cycle?

                  Yeah, I figured you wouldn't admit your error.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 09, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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            You are correct, rightOn. And, I believe it is time we accept some of this responsibility. We have forced our politicians to become robots. We pretend as if that's now what we want, and then pounce on any little comment as if it signifies that a man's entire belief system should be discounted because of one silly statement or mis-statement. We get what we deserve.

            And, if I was a right-winger I would stop using the entire teleprompter theme. That was put to bed pretty well during the Q&A session when the Republicans came armed with their talking point questions and Obama shot them down like clay pigeons. You may want to find another line of attack if you want it to attach.
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        • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 2:53 pm ET)
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          The difference is that the current pres cannot seem to get along without it. Large groups, small groups. It doesn't matter. the prompter is always there! And besides, it wasn't the Right that stirred up the so called controversy in the first place, which is why I phrased my comment the way I did.
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          • Author by So Fain (February 08, 2010 3:13 pm ET)
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            Wrong. Just last Friday he schooled the Republicans WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER. Are you retarded? (Sorry Sarah!)
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            • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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              So far as I could tell last Friday's event was one pol trying to out bark another! Nothing more. Neither scored points. Have a look at the polls following the session. He continues to fall like a rock
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              • Author by peace4all (February 08, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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                what planet do you live on? please feel free to show us the polls that show obama falling like a rock since cleaning the republicans clocks.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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                Yea I'd like to see these polls of Obama falling like a rock after kicking the Repugnicans butt at their own retreat.
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                • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
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                  RCP says that the average of all polls tracked, have come down 1.1 percent (49 percent on the 1/30 and 47.9 on 2/8). Mind you that is the average of all polls. Given the nature of RCP, each tenth of a percentage change is arguably more significant than in specific polls like gallop or rasmussen. Maybe not "falling like a rock", but certainly significant and negative.
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                  • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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                    RCP isn't a reliable source. It leans right since most of the polling sites are neutral but a few lean right.

                    It's an invention of the right to try to make their right-leaning poll numbers have more import. Too many people had figured out that Rasmussen Reports couldn't be relied upon.

                    Actually, between 1/29 and recently, his approval went up, and then went back down again due to the influence of the Tea Party convention. That's shown on Rasmussen. He's up, overall, on Gallup, up until then too.
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                    • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 7:38 pm ET)
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                      Rationalize as you like. RCP averages polls from Gallup to Marist to Gallop to Rasmussen. You may not like it because if doesn't support your ideology, however, it is a credible barometer of what the polls are doing, according to Democratic polsters and Republican polsters alike. I am not aware of any credible polling that shows the effect of the Tea Party convention yet. It just ended yesterday!
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      • Author by pamiety (February 08, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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        However when he spoke to the GOP he didn't have a teleprompter and he did extremely well. Actually he embarrassed them.
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      • Author by So Fain (February 08, 2010 3:12 pm ET)
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        Wrong 1000 times over, bludog1. The last example was Obama TORCHING the Republicans WITHOUT a telepromter? He took questions (and the best your team could muster) and fed them back brilliantly without a teleprompoter or sharpie notes on his palm.

        Do Fox Newzies even bother checking facts before they type here? Do they think we're just softball debaters like they talk with every day at the water cooler?

        Face it. Obama is smarter than you and it makes you angry.
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        • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 3:59 pm ET)
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          Then tell me. Why is it that he speaks so eloquently when promted and so jerkily without? And yes this responder does read, and listen before he speaks.
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          • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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            Everyone does this. It's easier to deliver a speech smoothly then it is to speak extemporaneously. At least he's eloquent some of the time. Bush sounded just as stupid and halting when reading a speech as he did in off-the-cuff remarkes.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:11 am ET)
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            Again, Are you too scared to look at how elegantly Obama cleaned the clocks of Republicans who read their questions from cards? He does interviews from people reading from cards and handles it excellently.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 10, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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            He sounded pretty eloquent when he was making a room full of Republicans look like simpletons. He trashed each and every one of your phony talking points. Why? Because the right is arguing from a place of complete failure. They have no ideas.

            Any reasonable idea they have has already been incorporated into the current legislation - as Obama so politely explained to the slow kids in class. And, still they refuse to offer any support. They refused to support the stimulus, yet pose for pictures when the stimulus funds projects for them and their constituents. Do you not think the moderates in this country cannot see through this?

            The Republicans are clearly only interested in obstruction. Party over country. Each and every time. If you cannot see that, then you need to stop getting your info from hate radio and Fox News. They are letting you down. The fact that all you can ever point to is trivial nonsense of complete insignificance like you have never seen his 5th grade report card and he uses a teleprompter for the State of the Union speech and he has not stopped at each person's house to allow them to inspect his birth certificate (which are arguments you could make for every damn president in modern history) just shows how shallow and inept your side is. You have no arguments of substance. I suggest you find some or else enjoy the political wilderness.
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        • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 4:20 pm ET)
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          I used to think that but not I am not all that impressed. The brilliance is in the speeches written by others and delivered by him. When he is on his own, he stumbles like other pols do, he grasps for campaign cliches like other pols, he rambles like other pols. In short, he is just like other pols and the public seems to be concluding the same thing, based on the trend of polls --and yes, note the plural tense.
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          • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
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            I used to think...
            Explains a lot. Thinking to a con is like garlic to a vampire.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 4:39 pm ET)
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            Still waiting for a link to these polls that show Obama dropping like a rock.
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          • Author by rumpleteasermom (February 08, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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            We are obviously not hearing the same off the cuff remarks. Oh sure, I hear the hesitation stops, but I also hear the words that come after them - well thought out complex answers.

            Frankly, I find it refreshing to have a President that thinks in complex sentences and lets that show. Speaking absolutely and decisively all the time may appeal to those for whom soundbites represent the bulk of their political understanding. But for those of us who understand that the issues facing us today are complicated and require complex solutions, this president is like a breath of fresh air.
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            • Author by LKL (February 10, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
                 
              I totally agree.

              I guess this is why we get so many sound bites from our politicians - look at all the people who apparently don't recognize an intelligent, thoughtful remark when they hear one.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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            Obama writes most of the meat of his speeches himslef, Which is much more than you can say about Bush and Reagan.
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    • Author by whatIthink (February 08, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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      She used a telepalmter.

      Or, it could be refered to as the teabagger version of a palmpilot.

      H/T to Daily Kos where I orginally saw these terms.
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    • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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      Folksy??? Try childish. This is something that a 7th grader would do, not a "busy mom." I was a VERY busy single mom with two very active children [sports, church, etc.]. I never wrote on my hand, especially things I was claiming to be my feelings on something.

      Besides, she had already been briefed on the question to which these three items were responsive She couldn't REMEMBER these three things which were supposed to represent her opinion? That's just sad.

      As for the speech, she was reading it from the podium. She looked down REPEATEDLY during the speech.

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      • Author by armadillo (February 08, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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        Someone should edit her speech to show only the time spent looking down at her script. All the head bobbing and pauses were annoying.
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        • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 2:30 pm ET)
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          Exactly. She read that speech. Just because it was on the podidum made no difference at all. She was trying to give the appearance, based upon her comments in the speech, that she didn't NEED a teleprompter. Sorry, but a typewritten speech on the podium in front of her is no different than having it on a teleprompter.
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:13 am ET)
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          Head bobbing? Now that's an image to take from the naughty milf.
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      • Author by Unreality (February 09, 2010 1:14 am ET)
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        Folksy? I'd say sophomoric, but that's an insult to sophomores, freshmen, and for that matter 6th graders. This kind of stuff is pure 5th grader.

        That she doesn't use a TelePrompTer to deliver an important written speech is beyond idiotic. To suggest otherwise is to reward incompetence.

        Imagine Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase trying this folksy approach, the common man touch. Would the Tea Baggers (and Faux Noise) gang give Dimon the same compliments?

        Imagine Steve Jobs of Apple reading from a piece of paper at the iPad announcement. ROFLMA! Professionals like Jobs rehearse like a demon so they can do it from memory using Keynote slides for cues. If you ever suggested Steve, or any CEO, do a Palin to be more folksy you'd be pulling your head out of your ***hole.
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        • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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          Yup, it's smart to use a teleprompter. It's common sense to use one too, so your audience sees your face rather than the top of your head.

          It's political theater to choose to use a paper copy of a speech instead.

          And it's dishonest to put keywords on your hands in the hope that no one will see you cheating a glance at them.
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    • Author by Bad News (February 08, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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      Gretchen Carlson, Didn't you see Sarah Palin look at her Cheat Notes during the Q&A?
      The poor Woman can't keep simple thoughts in her Head & her own Brain Static at Bay.
      "Oh i think she did it on purpose" Gretchen, When you defend a Fool you by default become the Fool.
      Gretchen Carlson, "Ted Kennedy is a Hostile Enemy of the United States" maybe it's time for Gretchen to go back to School.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by wookie294 (February 08, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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      When is this "news" channel going to have its "Toto moment" where the curtain will be pulled away for even Fox viewers to see it's a sham? Perhaps never.
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      • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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        ...where the curtain will be pulled away for even Fox viewers to see it's a sham?
        They'd never allow themselves to believe it. Even today, it takes a huge amount of self-delusion to believe in the veracity of the channel, yet a tiny vocal sliver of our population believes them.
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    • Author by Druidblue (February 08, 2010 1:37 pm ET)
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      I keep hearing about Obama's requirement for a TelePrompter, but...

      ...where was his TelePrompter when he completely owned the Warpublicans one-on-one?

      Oh, that's right- there wasn't one, because the notion Obama requires a TelePrompter is a lie, unlike the fact that Palin is so dumb she probably had to write down "Alaska was the 50th state- it's not a country" on her hand.
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    • Author by shaggles (February 08, 2010 1:37 pm ET)
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      Busy Mom! HA! Good one. The President isn't busy. Nah. Just moms like Sarah. That's probably why she quit her Governorship too, right?
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    • Author by proudconservative (February 08, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
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      a-dolly-in-the-dell,

      Would you prefer a more modernized type of crib-note, such as a 'teleprompter' to use in front of every audience, including 6th graders?

      Two problems with that, what if the teleprompter failed, think of how foolish someone could look? or even if it did, to not know how to pronounce a word like 'corpsman' because you don't know what you are even talking about?

      And teleprompters require electricity from those meanie coal-fired or nuclear powered plants, so what of the presidents's carbon footprint enlargement and personal affront to algore as he flies on his private jet somewhere in the world?

      Speaking truth to/about progressives with a shout out to all those Haitian 'corpse-men' in their native creole tongue.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (February 08, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
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        So I presume you'll have this same criticism of any RepugnantCon who uses a Teleprompter--or the palm of her hand?

        *crickets*

        Just as I thought, proudconartist...
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        • Author by proudconservative (February 08, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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          forthehateof . . .,

          Was anyone looking at ralm's palm when he uttered his now infamous f***ing r******d leftists (now that should have the *'s in it!)???
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          • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 2:32 pm ET)
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            How about when Rush used the word 30+ times?
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            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 8:00 pm ET)
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              To moch Rahm...and it worked.
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              • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:52 pm ET)
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                And how exactly did he moch him?

                Glass houses, ManicheanMan... glass houses.
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                • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 9:23 pm ET)
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                  its his schtick...use phrases that slip out of the mouths of those on the left side of the aisle over and over again. Things like "negro dialect" and "f'ing ret..." Thanks Harry, thanks Rahm! Lefties jump on Rush when he repeats thier own words....and he eats it up.
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                  • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 9:32 pm ET)
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                    That whooshing sound was my last comment flying right over your head.
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 9:55 pm ET)
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                      Not really paying much attnetion to abstract references...not really worth it...just be straight up and get out of the tequila!
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                      • Author by mescal (February 09, 2010 3:07 am ET)
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                        If I'm the one in the tequila, then why are you the one who types as if he's drunk? ;o)
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                  • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:23 am ET)
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                    Hew took a non recorded use of the adjective retarded which in Rahm's case can be argued as being non offensive, It didn't attack the mentally challenged.

                    When Rush used the NOUN "retards" or was it "retarts" in misquoting Rahm he was insulting the mentally challenged.

                    Now is that too Nooooanced for you?
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 11:05 am ET)
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                      LOL! Way to nooooanced! You are totally contorting yourself to defend Rahm saying "f-ing retarded" as non-offensive and Rushes mocking of Rahm as offensive. It makes you look like a total partisan hack. Cant you just admit that it was a stupid and offensive thing to say?
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                      • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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                        Yea we've noticed how braindead "dittobotts are.
                        I like the way Steve Colbert sums it up in this video. I think you'll like since he uses her reasoning in calling her a "F--king Retard." Enjoy:
                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/09/colbert-sarah-palin-is-a_n_454744.html
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:26 am ET)
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                Yeah, we KNOW that Rush CLAIMED that he only used it to "mock" Rahm, but the evidence disproves that. See, we actually don't take ANYONE'S word for anything, and if you actually listened to what Rush said, he was NOT simply mocking Rahm and repeating what Rahm said.

                You don't know what you're talking about.

                Once again.
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                • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 10:00 am ET)
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                  Ah...so your claim is that Rush really feels that was and that Rahm doesnt???

                  Stop making yourself look like a silly partisan apologist.
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                  • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:25 am ET)
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                    What Rush said verbatim on the national airwaves and what the Wall Street Journal said Rahm said in private are two different quotes.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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              as a noun no less, Which is offensive unlike using it as an adjective.

              As in: "The fire extinguisher retarded the flames that was starting to engulf the house."

              A legitimate use of the word that one can argue was in the same context as Raum's
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              • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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                See my reply above. You are a verbal and moral contortionist if you are somehow not offended by what Rahm said and yet you are offended by the way Limbaugh did it (to mock him).
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                • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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                  You are the braindead partisan. We read what Rush said and have heard the comments he made,he was calling liberals "retards." You want to excuse him thats fine but don't pretend he didn't use the word in the same way offensive way Rahm did. You cons are so desperate you drop all reason . Teleprompter=bad,writng on hand=good. Rahm=bad,Rush=good. Birhters are not respresentaitve of tea-party movement we are told, yet they invite a birther to speak at their convention giving him a standing ovation. Tea-party not racist but invite as main speaker Tom Tancredo who speaks about bringing back literacy test(used to discriminate against Afro-Americans in the south)and denigrates those who voted for Obama as not being able to speak english or spell vote. You pretend to be representative of the common man yet despise him in everything you expound. The mental gymnastics you guys twist yourself into is amazing. Too funny dude, you ain't foolin' nobody,it's the SOS you guys always play when caught red-handed in lies and hyprocrisy, you down play and accuse the other side of partisanship. Your tactics are old ,tired ,pathetic and desperate.
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                  • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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                    Hey, at least you can admit that when Rahm said it, it was offensive.

                    Now for the rest of your list -
                    Teleprompter - OK, as Doll said you cant expect a president to memorize every speech.
                    Writing on hand - see teleprompter comment
                    Rahm - not bad, stupid
                    Rush - mocking what comes out of the mouth of liberals IS funny.
                    Birthers - bogus
                    Tea-party - Unfortunately it appears headed for doom if they are going to go the route of the birthers.
                    Tancredo - waaaay to far to the right for me (and another sign that the tea-party movement is headed toward the fringe.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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                      And you have your head so far up Rush's butt you can't admit what Rush said was equally if not more offensive. Oh and the tea-party movement and it's convention(600 attendees)has always been fringe in politics as a whole but a sizeable portion of the Republican Party at least in it's views.
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                    • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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                      Having index cards notes in one's lap? Fine.

                      Putting those notes on your hand, so you look like you don't need notes when you really do? Dishonest.

                      Putting 3 of your core beliefs on your hand to cheat from, meaning you can't even remember these things? Pure ignorance.

                      Comparing that to using a teleprompter? Trollish.
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          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (February 08, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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            No, but we were looking at Soulless Sarah's mouth when she gave your boss Rush a free pass to call developmentally-disabled people r*****s...
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      • Author by pete592 (February 08, 2010 1:58 pm ET)
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        "Two problems with that, what if the teleprompter failed, think of how foolish someone could look?"
        Well, he can revert back to the hard copy on the lectern in front of him and give the speech old-school just like every president in history has done.

        Making even the most simple of concepts easier for conservatives to understand.

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        • Author by Dradeeus (February 08, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
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          I'm pretty sure Obama didn't have a teleprompter when he faced off against the Republican House. (and being asked on-the-spot questions.)

          He not only didn't look foolish, he... well, you know the rest.
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        • Author by bludog1 (February 08, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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          He has tried that before when the prompter actually did fail and he ended up repeating stuff he had said, misidentifying people, and skipping blocks of material. He wasn't very nimble on those occasions.
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          • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
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            Right. When? Strangely, we don't take your unbiased word for it.
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          • Author by pete592 (February 08, 2010 6:17 pm ET)
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            And you know that he skipped blocks of material HOW? You had an advanced copy of his remarks and you followed along?
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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            http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/200903250039

            Debunked nonsense. Almost all the links go to a town hall meeting, where there WASN'T a teleprompter, and to a link from The ONION!
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            • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
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              How embarrassing for bludog.
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              • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:34 am ET)
                   
                lol
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              • Author by bludog1 (February 09, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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                And that is the source of objective reporting? You have to be kidding! MMFA is a lot of things, but objective is not one of them. Properly named, it should be called Only Progressive Media Matters For American (OPMMFA).
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                • Author by DellDolly (February 10, 2010 3:22 am ET)
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                  And you STILL didn't provide a link to ANY evidence of your accusation, and somehow we're the ones with the problematic argument?

                  What a loser you are. You are the one who made an accusation. MMFA provided evidence that one recent alleged example of what you claimed had happened never actually DID happen.

                  If it's bogus, you would have shown how it was bogus. But it's not bogus, and you know it, and so you make an ad hominem attack against MMFA. We know, when you can't debate the facts, people of your ilk make personal attacks.
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      • Author by Jen7 (February 08, 2010 2:01 pm ET)
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        Is that all you got Proudconservative? Really? "Oh looky, he pronounced something wrong!" He uses a teleprompter! Guess what? Palin used one on the campaign. More than once.

        The fact is, Palin is a joke. She can't remember 3 simple talking points before a q and a that she already knew the questions?!?

        Let's compare that to Obama at the GOP retreat where he kicked their butts. Or at town halls during the q and a.

        Obama is miles ahead of Palin on every issue and intellectual level. Grow up. Seriously.
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        • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:37 am ET)
             
          Remember, she called him "Joe" because she couldn't be trusted not to call him Sen. "O'Biden". Not retarded but it seems to indicate some kind of learning disability or brain disfunction.
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      • Author by bethqh (February 08, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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        You've got to get your facts right. President Obama had the teleprompters set up in the sixth grade class for his press conference following his address to the children. He did not use the teleprompter when he spoke with those children. So get over it.

        And you know what, I'd rather have a president who can pronounce "nuclear" correctly. I think that is a more important term...
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:29 am ET)
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          Corps is a word taken form the French word meaning and PRONOUNCED corpse. Nuclear was never pronounced NewQuooler.
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      • Author by Daryl McCullough (February 08, 2010 2:06 pm ET)
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        Do you realize how foolish you look? Trying to make a big issue out of mispronunciation of a word? Are you claiming that intelligent people don't mispronounce words? Are you claiming that Sarah Palin, or George W. Bush never mispronounce words? You're making a big issue out of the use of teleprompters when politicians (and TV personalities) routinely use teleprompters. You wonder what Obama would be like without a teleprompter, even though we have an example, his heart-to-heart with Republican Congressmen, in which he did brilliantly without a teleprompter.

        How does your post make any sense whatsoever? My guess is that it doesn't need to. Republicans have been doing just fine ever since they discovered that talking points don't have to make sense to be effective.
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        • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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          Are you claiming that intelligent people don't mispronounce words? Are you claiming that Sarah Palin, or George W. Bush never mispronounce words?
          Leave them out of it. The issue at had is regarding intelligent people.
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        • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 8:57 pm ET)
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          President Obama mispronounces one word and the wingnuts go nukyooler.
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      • Author by armadillo (February 08, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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        Uhm, she also confused Alaska and America. What's your excuse for that? Bet it's as good as "busy mom."
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        • Author by YouDontMeanThat (February 08, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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          Has the Prez named the 57 states he was going to visit while on the campaign trail?
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          • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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            You know you should really update your attacks, the one your using has been debunked many times,I guess they didn't send you the memo. Today the talking point is teleprompter,as in President Obama didn't need a teleprompter to kick the republican congressmens arse during their Q&A at the republicans retreat. Take note and try and keep up Sparky.
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          • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:14 pm ET)
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            YouDontMeanThat - Post of the day!
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            • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:31 am ET)
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              Yeah, a debunked talking point, repeated again, WOULD be the kind of post that YOU declare the post of the day.

              Do you REALLY think that Obama EVER thought that there were 57 states?

              What's true? He was thinking about having visited 47 states out of 50, and 57 popped out of his mouth.

              He KNEW that there are 50 states, and he knew that he had visited 47 of them, was fixing to visit the 48th, and wasn't going to get to Alaska or Hawaii since those states weren't really competitive and it took too much flying time to go to either place during a hectic primary season.

              He knew way too much info for this urban legend to hold water, and yet YOU think it's the best comment of the day? Wow. How can you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning?
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:32 am ET)
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            You mean the 57 primary states he participated in? Did you know there are 7 territories that aren't states that get to vote in the presidential elections. You might learn some of them if you took the time to look at some of the newest quarters.

            But I forget a minor misstatement is the equal of ignoring a warning that terrorists will attack the United States in right wing world.
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 2:32 pm ET)
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        You are aware that the teleprompter failed on Sarah at the RNC last summer, right? She looked pretty darned foolish and even more foolish when she denied that there was a teleprompter failure.

        You look foolish repeating tired old NON-CONSERVATIVE talking points, phony conservative.
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        • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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          Actually, I am corrected. Palin CLAIMED that there was a teleprompter error which caused her to flub her speech. There wasn't one.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
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        Would you prefer a more modernized type of crib-note, such as a 'teleprompter' to use in front of every audience, including 6th graders?

        Massive FAIL. Obama didn't use a teleprompter in front of 6th graders. Factcheck.org debunked that right after the bogus charge was made.

        Two problems with that, what if the teleprompter failed, think of how foolish someone could look?

        If and when teleprompters fail, they use their written notes, and lose the ability to look at the audience throughout the speech. It's better to have that problem very rarely than to waste time memorizing every speech!!!

        or even if it did, to not know how to pronounce a word like 'corpsman' because you don't know what you are even talking about?

        So, he had never seen that word, and didn't know how to pronounce it. He'll learn from this mistake, and won't mispronounce it again. It's not a slight against the actual corpsman - it was a mistake. So what? He's not perfect. We're not the ones who say he's the messiah, remember - that's your side's false portrayal of us! It's YOUR side which is dishonestly trying to protect Palin's image here, remember!
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        • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 2:51 pm ET)
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          Your posts are nothing but retreads of ones you wrote about five minutes prior. Why you feel the need to repeat them again is beyond me. Their brilliance has already been recorded, save yourself the trouble. And for the rest of us.
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          • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:00 pm ET)
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            Why you feel the need to repeat them again is beyond me.
            It's like whack-a-mole. A new con troll rears his/her ugly head spouting debunked talking points and they have to be bopped with the truth. DellDolly's diligence and patience in this regard is duly appreciated.
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            • Author by southerngal (February 08, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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              Or "stung" by your thoughtful and insightful prose no doubt. If you need DollySue to help you wade though around here, you cling right to her. Carry on big boppers.
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              • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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                Somebody has to quickly extinguish the creeping ignorance around here that occurs with every con talking point post. You certainly don't do anything to advance the debate.
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          • Author by LKL (February 08, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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            Really? You are blaming Dolly for the fact that other people keep bringing up the same stuff (like the Obama used a teleprompter in front of 6th graders story)?
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            • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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              Exactly. If he weren't a Log-cabin Republican, I'd think he has a crush on our DellDolly. However, I know better.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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            Your kneejerk personal attacks caused by your personal animus towards me is boring and useless.

            Debunking a rehashed talking point is necessary and required. It's not my fault people like your buddy here repeat debunked talking points. If you can't figure out why various troll posts which repeated debunked talking points need to be refuted, then you aren't nearly as smart as I give you credit for. Of course you DO know why I repeatedly refute the same dumb talking points over and over again, but your personal animus is so great, it compels you to attack me over stupid stuff in ways that you KNOW are disingenuous!

            And when I EVER think I need your advice, I'll let you know.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:35 am ET)
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            Oh my God, You're on someone who repeats a talking point? I don't think anyone could be as black at the pot you are.
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        • Author by rumpleteasermom (February 08, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
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          So, he had never seen that word, and didn't know how to pronounce it. He'll learn from this mistake, and won't mispronounce it again.


          Actually, if he is anything like me he probably WILL repeat the mistake anytime he is READING the word. I'd bet even money if he isn't looking at it, he says it correctly and if he is looking at it, he mispronounces it. I do exactly that with that particular word. "p"s and "S"es are not usually silent in our language so some of us who are strong phonetic readers have a hard time not voicing them in this particular case.
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          • Author by rumpleteasermom (February 08, 2010 5:03 pm ET)
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            Just out of curiosity, I looked it up.

            Listen to the "hear it" audio on this page. LOL

            BTW - in many dictionaries there is an alternate pronunciation listed that voices the s but not the p.

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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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            You might be right. I bet he doesn't do it, because the right has made such an issue of it, but he might do it.

            I would suspect that if that word is ever in a speech again, he'll practice reading that word.

            In any case, it's not a big deal. It's an understandable mistake, just like my three year old boy reading about opponents in a Nintendo Power magazine and pronouncing it "op-oh-nent", like opposite, because he'd never heard anyone say the word "opponent".

            You should have heard the way he said "piranha plant"!
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            • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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              I was a very early reader and I still have trouble with some words that aren't pronounced as they are spelled that I came across in print before I heard them pronounced. It makes a whole lot of sense considering how overwhelmingly intelligent Obama is and probably was as a young child.
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              • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:44 am ET)
                   
                Remember the essay he supposedly wrote in kindergarten about wanting to be president.
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              • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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                Two words I mispronounced after reading it for years that are favorites of mine are:

                Tao- I pronounced like WoW with a t at the beginning.

                and

                Macabre- I pronounced it Mah-cob-bray.

                I had similar moments of embarrassment.
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                • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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                  How about epitome? That was my downfall.

                  I have said it correctly when using it - but pronounced it e-pi-tome (like dome) when I was reading it out loud last year.
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                  • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 09, 2010 5:02 pm ET)
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                    My problem words have been:

                    Abacus. I pronounced it uh-back-iss. I still have to stop myself and think before I pronounce it.

                    Archipelago. I pronounced it ar-chih-pih-lah-go. This can be blamed on my early reading of Ursula LeGuin's Earthsea Trilogy.
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                    • Author by LKL (February 10, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
                         
                      Epitome gets me too!

                      Also, "misled" - it looks to me like the past tense of "misle" -- I pronounce it "mizzled" and wonder what it means . . .

                      And now I will always pronounce archipelago as if it rhymes with Key Largo :)
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        • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 5:02 pm ET)
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          He botched the word in the past....guess he didnt learn, doll.
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          • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:22 pm ET)
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            Thanks for providing a link to back up what you allege, goofball.

            He mispronounced it more than once during the prayer breakfast. Is that what confused you - did those multiple errors during one event make you think he did it on another occasion?
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            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:31 pm ET)
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              He did it in October 2009. He was in Jacksonville, Florida, at the Jacksonville Naval Air Station.

              Here is your link Doll. It is at the 7 min. 30 sec. mark Eat crow.
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              • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:32 pm ET)
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                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwdYwEZYWY
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              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:48 am ET)
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                Okay, show me a news story about his mispronounciation from the time of the event. I find ONE thread on Free Republic that mentions it at the time. How exactly is he supposed to know about it if no one brings it to his attention?

                Otherwise, like I said, once he is made aware of it, it's likely that he won't make the same mistake again!

                Until someone tells you that you're making an error, no one can't fault you for making the same error a second time. You somehow KNOW that he was made aware of his error back in Jacksonville, but made that same error again?

                And what crow do I need to eat? I TRIED to find another example of him doing it BEFORE I asked YOU why you didn't provide the link you should have.

                Remember, you're the one who made the accusation and did nothing to back it up!

                And Obama HAS pronounced "corps" right, multiple times. So it's just corpsman that he has never associated with the war movies with someone shouting "coreman, over here"!
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                • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 10:10 am ET)
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                  You stated "So, he had never seen that word, and didn't know how to pronounce it. He'll learn from this mistake, and won't mispronounce it again". I provide PROOF to you that you are wrong and that he has seen the word before and he has mispronounced it. EAT CROW. Can you not see how you look like a total partisan apologist hack?
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                  • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
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                    What a fool - if no one points out to someone that they've made a mistake, they don't KNOW that they've made a mistake, and so there's no reasonable assertion that they should LEARN from that mistake!

                    But this recent mistake WAS pointed out to him. So, he'll learn from this mistake.

                    You didn't provide ANY proof that he knew about his previous error, and without that proof, you got nothin'.

                    And when I need to use YOUR interpretation of my behavior as my guide, I'll shoot myself.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:41 am ET)
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            He pronounced it the old French way and we know how much we hate the French.
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            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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              How noooanced of him. Just laughable.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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                You really need to drop the Beavis and Butthead routine and grow-up, being a maniacman will get you no where.
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    • Author by nerzog (February 08, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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      Let's get the Palintwit one of these...

      [http://www.twincityknitting.com/tck/images/products/QBWB2large.gif]
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      • Author by mochabear (February 08, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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        When "teleprompter" is put into the Fox Nation search page - there are 1,310 articles mostly slamming Obama. Sarah writes on her hand like a first grader - and it's perfectly acceptable by the crazies...
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        • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:25 pm ET)
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          Chris Matthews just brought up a good point - she could have had an index card or two to remind her of important things to talk about.

          Instead, she wanted to pretend that she didn't NEED any reminders, and so she wrote some things on her palm, and snuck a couple of glances at her hand to ensure she covered the important things!

          That pretense should bother her fans. Instead they defend her.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 7:02 pm ET)
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            It's amazing the knots they twist themselves into in defending her. They can even read her mind.
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    • Author by latichever (February 08, 2010 2:16 pm ET)
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      I double-dog dare Palin to do what Obama did responding extemporaneously to both the Republican and Democratic senators. I'd even let her use notes, on her hand or elsewhere.

      Funny, I don't recall the Republicans or Fox or their minions raising a ruckus when Senator Jim Bunning, who has lost both literal and figurative miles on his fastball, used a teleprompter in a debate!
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    • Author by rhetor (February 08, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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      As a professor of speech communication who has taught public speaking for years I just have to say that all of this (Palin using notes or Obama speaking from a teleprompter) is much ado about nothing. There are acceptable modes of address from memorizing a speech, to speaking off a manuscript where it is in front of you as Palin did the other night or off a teleprompter as Obama often does, to speaking extemporaneously off from notes, to speaking impromptu. We expect different modes of address for different occasions. There is nothing inherently wrong with a politician speaking any of these modes of address.

      Having said that, it does not look professional when you write it on your hand. Had she had a few note cards with her, Palin, would have looked more competent.

      Just my professional opinion.
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:49 am ET)
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        Right. It is interesting because:
        1. Writing on one's hand strikes most as crude and juvenile.
        2. She was attempting to skewer Obama for his use of teleprompter.
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    • Author by rhetor (February 08, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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      As a professor of speech communication who has taught public speaking for years I just have to say that all of this (Palin using notes or Obama speaking from a teleprompter) is much ado about nothing. There are acceptable modes of address from memorizing a speech, to speaking off a manuscript where it is in front of you as Palin did the other night or off a teleprompter as Obama often does, to speaking extemporaneously off from notes, to speaking impromptu. We expect different modes of address for different occasions. There is nothing inherently wrong with a politician speaking any of these modes of address.

      Having said that, it does not look professional when you write it on your hand. Had she had a few note cards with her, Palin, would have looked more competent.

      Just my professional opinion.
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      • Author by John Paradox (February 08, 2010 6:55 pm ET)
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        When I worked as a DJ/announcer, the majority of my comments were either basic information (that was Black Sabbath with Iron Man), or totally ad lib, including live presentations for station promotions. While there are more important information situations (since mine were 'folksy') where specific terms or logic threads are needed, many people who are experience public speakers can need some form of outline or prepared speech to clarify the details of what they are saying.
        Remember, there are few people who are good at 'ad libs' (e.g. comedians Robin Williams and Jonathan Winters), most are not and require some form of 'reminder'.

        Also, The Onion did a great spoof of the whole telepromptergate....
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    • Author by Bronxboy47 (February 08, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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      Just how bright do you have to be to remember your own core values? Why would Palin need a cheat sheet to remind her of them? That surreptitious glance into her palm says all you need to know about Ms. Palin.
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    • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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      I've got a serious question . . . are you folks who are defending this woman doing so because you really think that she is competent or is it simply because she has an (R) behind her name and she alleges to be a "conservative"?
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      • Author by So Fain (February 08, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
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        They are just corporate shills doing their master's bidding.
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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        Couldn't answer me, could you? Why not? If you really think she is competent, tell me why you believe that she is.
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:57 am ET)
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        Would they defend a Democratic woman (or man) who did the same?
        Or are their standards more elastic than that?
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    • Author by AB-001 (February 08, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
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      The "Obama Teleprompter" talking point is out full force today on Fox, Newsbusters, Limbaugh, et al. It goes without saying they forget there was no teleprompter or scribbled-on-the-hand talking points when Obama addressed the Republican Congressman.

      Facts. They really have a nasty habit of getting in the way of a good message.
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 8:58 am ET)
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        Not if you continue to ignore them. They can be merely wished away.
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    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 08, 2010 3:41 pm ET)
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      That's a brilliant analysis. Palin's strength is her outside the box thinking. She probably did do it purposefully to deliniate that she does not need a Tele Prompter. He reads an entire speech verbatim and she only needs three words. Obviously, Sarah is clearly more intelligent than Obama and she is subtly pointing this out to us because she is too modest to explicitly state that she is more intelligent than Obama.

      The fact that she used this strategy to subtly make her point points to just how brilliant she is!!!
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      • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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        Hehehehe!!! Brilliant!
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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        LOL!!!!! Sarah Palin hasn't had a cogent thought in her life.
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      • Author by dbtexas (February 08, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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        Sarcasm, I assume?
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      • Author by New Frontier (February 08, 2010 5:27 pm ET)
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        Obviously, Sarah is clearly more intelligent
        Obviously. She reads newspapers. Which ones, specifically? "All of 'em. All the ones that have been put in front of [her] all these years."
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:44 am ET)
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          That's true, you have to be REALLY intelligent to read ALL the newspapers.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:28 pm ET)
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        You ill-informed,ignorant dummy.

        She read her speech from a written manuscript.

        The stuff that was on her hand was for a scripted Q&A session!!!

        And the fact that any other posters would uprate this post that so clearly shows how out of the loop you are is evidence that your side isn't very sincere or trustworthy.
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      • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 9:09 pm ET)
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        ROFLMAO!!!
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    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
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      This thread would more accurately be titled "left-wing media mock Palin for crib notes....right-wing media reacts".

      So what takes more intellect....reading from a teleprompter word for word or looking at a word written on your hand and then discussing the subject?

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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
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        She read her speech from a typewritten copy on the podium . . . she repeatedly ducked her head to look down at it. The three words she wrote on her palm were the answer to a pre-screened question that she already knew her answer for . . . that's really, really bad.

        BTW, she didn't "discuss the subject," that was her ANSWER.
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      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 08, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
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        Reading a TelePrompter requires no intelligence. It requires no ability to think. A second grader could do it.

        Obviously Sarah was speaking extemporaneously. She only needed three words to jog her memory for a 45 minute speech. Obama could never do this - he lacks the intellect.
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        • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:02 pm ET)
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          Nice satire.
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        • Author by dbtexas (February 08, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
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          You really believe this? I had given you the benefit of the doubt before. Guess I was wrong. I would love to see a debate between Obama and Palin. The "lack of intellect" would be amazing. I fear you would be disappointed. To call Palin trite would be an insult to trite people.
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          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 08, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
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            Sarah would annihilate Obama in a debate. Sarah would merely speak from her heart and Obama would try to memorize poll tested focus grouped banalities. We would come off as the insincere conniving politician that he is whereas Sarah's core principles would resonate with the American people.

            Obama's overconfidence would do him in.
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            • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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              Sarah would annihilate Obama in a debate.
              OK. Now I'm really convinced this is satire. You should work for Colbert.
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            • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:17 pm ET)
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              LOL!!!!!

              Sounds like you are about as bright as Sister Sarah.

              Those "core principles" of hers was WHAT SHE WROTE ON HER HAND!
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            • Author by New Frontier (February 08, 2010 5:28 pm ET)
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              Sarah would merely speak from her heart
              You don't need to write on your hand to speak from your heart.
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            • Author by eb (February 08, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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              Sarah would merely speak from her heart and Obama would try to memorize poll tested focus grouped banalities.

              Actually for Palin, speaking from the heart means spitting out endless conservative cliches. Anyone who has followed conservative and christian politics could speak from the heart like Sarah Palin.

              It is easy: Say your family is the most important thing in your life. Then say your country is the most important thing in your life but that you hate the government. Then say your small town background is the most important thing in your life. Besides it makes you more viruous and a real American. Then say a few things that show that you have the good heart of the common man, unlike all those well informed and educated elitist. Then say you support God,country, and the military unlike liberals who hate America and want to take everything away from everyone. Finally let them know that you do normal everyday things like hunt, follow sports teams and play with guns.

              No, Sarah speaking from the heart is tired and old but fits well with the Fox news/glen beck worldview of good guys bad guys. Keep it simple so that you make everyone feel good about feeling good. Don't confuse people with all those damn details.
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          • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
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            One word - 'Corpse-man'
            One question - How many State's in the Union?

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            • Author by New Frontier (February 08, 2010 5:17 pm ET)
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              How many State's in the Union?
              There are 50 States. I'm not sure what you mean about "State's". That looks like one of them there mistakes you mock Obama for.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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                good one New Frontier.
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                • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 7:39 pm ET)
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                  Oh my! Got me on punctuation. Good boy! Now just laugh it off and cast me aside because I am too stupid to think for myself. Still no answer for this little gem.

                  Here is the link for dolly.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
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                  • Author by New Frontier (February 08, 2010 7:58 pm ET)
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                    because I am too stupid
                    Ohhh, so you don't like a taste of your own medicine??? That's too bad.
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 8:04 pm ET)
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                      Sorry NF...I didnt realize that fifty-seven was only an incorrect punctuation away from fifty! LOL
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                      • Author by New Frontier (February 08, 2010 8:32 pm ET)
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                        Dumping on another person's mistake while simultaneously making a very, very stupid one of your own. For a wingnut, it's not surprising. But nevertheless it's very amusing.
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                        • Author by MaineiacMan (February 08, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
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                          LOL! and so are you....again, you are focusing on a punctuation error as being "very, very stupid" but you only go as far as saying that Obama stating there are 57 states is "someones mistake"....and not "very, very stupid". Gee, thanks for extending my punctuation error the same courtesy as Pres. Obama's "mistake". You sound like an apologetic intellectual idiot. Is your name Joe Klein?
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                          • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 12:53 am ET)
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                            What's true? He was thinking about having visited 47 states out of 50, and 57 popped out of his mouth because he was over-tired.

                            He KNEW that there are 50 states, and he knew that he had visited 47 of them, was fixing to visit the 48th, and wasn't going to get to Alaska or Hawaii since those states weren't really competitive and it took too much flying time to go to either place during a hectic primary season.
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                            • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 10:22 am ET)
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                              Jump right on board there huh doll? Gotcha, my punctuation error shows how "very, very stupid" I really am and Obama's 57 states error is merely a mistake.

                              Thanks for yet another partisdan apologist explanation.

                              I'd love to hear your 'explanation' on this one from Obama while discussing a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people - "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed."

                              Go ahead, I can play this stupid game with you all day.
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                              • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:53 am ET)
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                                IT does when you attack someone's lack of intelligence. Especially the way your did it. First grade mistake.
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                              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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                                What a tool.

                                I didn't say anything about your ignorant punctuation error, but it is pretty ignorant to think that plural words require an apostrophe. It's pretty ignorant to make an error and confuse possessive formatting with plural word formatting.

                                What I typed IS the explanation. Go find the YouTube video of the event. He was really tired, and was doing exactly what I said he was doing. To suggest that he was unaware of how many states we have is yet another example of an ignorant thing to say. For some reason, some trolls like you get pleasure from negative attention that proves how ignorant you are.

                                And again, another accusation from you without a link? One would think you would have learned, but nope, you're too ignorant to get a clue it appears. Maybe you should look it up, and find out that it was, yet again, another time when he misspoke - he never thought that 10,000 people died. How do you look at yourself in the mirror after being so dishonest?
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                                • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 3:08 pm ET)
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                                  What an elitist! LOL (That stands for "laughing out loud" for those of you above such things...doll...NewFrontier). Now I've heard that a punctuation error is "very very stupid" and "ignorant" too. Neat.

                                  I know Obama isnt stupid but I LOVE feeding examples of him looking stupid back to the people who shovel out intellectual drivel and view themselves and their views as superior and those with other views as stupid.

                                  Because you like links doll....here is a favorite of mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

                                  And a new one http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/09/miss-me-yet-billboard/
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                                  • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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                                    It wasn't a "punctuation error".

                                    It was ignorance of how to write plural words. An error would have been putting in a semi-colon instead of an apostrophe - but NO punctuation was called for.

                                    And no one looks "stupid" when they make a misstatement like Obama did here. They look like they made a mistake, like we all do at one time or another.

                                    This has nothing to do with people judging others with differing views "stupid". If people (like YOU) thought that people with differing views were stupid, or LOOKED stupid, well, that's the wrong way to behave.

                                    But in this conversation, you are the only one exhibited that behavior - suggesting that they are superior and that others (Obama, in this case) look stupid because they disagree with him politically!
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                                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 10, 2010 9:05 am ET)
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                                      Hey Doll, throughout this thread you use the word "rightwing". What an ignorant tool you must be to maul the english language like that. There is no such word. They are two words.

                                      Glass houses suck.
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                                  • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 09, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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                                    Wow. According to your mangled logic, our worst fears about George W. Bush were true!
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                                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 10, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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                                    "I know Obama isnt stupid but I LOVE feeding examples of him looking stupid" - Mainiac

                                    I think that says it all, Mainiace. You argue for something you know is not true for the sake of simple-minded politics. You do not care what the truth is nor what is best for the country. You only care what is best for your "team". The red team. Cause Rush says it is so. You can flip from one side of an argument to another. You have no true principles. You only defend the far-right at all costs. Party over country.
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                                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 10, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
                                         
                                      Hey Huckster -
                                      This entire thread denegrated down to 'who is the bigger idiot'. My team is not "Republican". To late for them. What Obama is doing is not "good for America", in fact it is downright un-American. Before you jump on me, GW did some downright un-American stuff to. I am done with Dems. vs Repub. "My team" will consist of people/politicians willing to uphold the constitution, reduce the size of government and allow the engine of this country, our economy and our people to succeed again. Pardon my pettiness in pointing out some instances in which Obama appeared foolish....just throwing a little back at the people who throw it at me.
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                            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 09, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
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                              Interesting that there indeeed are 57 nations in the global islamic caliphate? Freudian slip?
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                              • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
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                                Nope. He happened to have already visited 47 states and we have 50 states!

                                But thanks for continuing to ruin your reputation!
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                              • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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                                Yea Booby you foiled Obama's plot. We all know he is a Muslim Mancurian canidate that doesn't have a birth certificate. You nut!
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                      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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                        Actually "states" and "state's" are two different words. Perhaps you selected the wrong word out of ignornace or perhaps it was a careless error. Usually such an error is not worth commenting on. Your readers give you the benefit of the doubt and infer that you did not really believe you meant to imply something about one state possessing something.

                        Now as you joyously celebrate the error that reasonable recognize as a misstatement attributable to a brain cramp, do you *really* think Obama beleived that there are 57 states?
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                  • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:51 am ET)
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                    And the fact your capitalize the word state.
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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                      Shame on me for grammatical errors. Was that word big enough for you? Did I punctuate that sentance correctly?

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                  • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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                    "...Now just laugh it off and cast me aside because I am too stupid to think for myself..."---MM

                    I know it's tough times for adolescents and those that think like one. Unappreciated and misunderstood...there,there...it's going to be ok. Now go do your homework or no TV. Hehe!
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 09, 2010 3:11 pm ET)
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                      I'll tell what does make me stupid....working in the private sector under this President!
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            • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:18 pm ET)
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              LOL!!!

              You are just as stupid as Bobby "Let Mr. Rogers exorcise your demons" Jindal fan.
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            • Author by Johaely (February 08, 2010 8:45 pm ET)
                 
              So suddenly, Obama can lever live down a subtle slip of the toungue (57 states), because that totally shows how stoopid is "Barry O" .
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:48 am ET)
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            You gotta remember he calls himself a Bobby Jindall fan who failed to even READ a speech effectively. So Jindall failed to do something that his fan thinks is second grade level skills.

            So forgive him his statements. He is on par with Trig on cognitive skills.
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            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 09, 2010 11:37 pm ET)
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              Classy! Insult a baby with Down's Syndrome. Jindal is a Rhodes Scholar. He will also be our 46th president on 1/20/2021 after President Palin finishes her two terms.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
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          Hehehehe,another zinger. Keep em' coming. One suggestion though, she wasn't giving a speech when she was reading off of her hand,she was answerering a pre-scripted question...Ouch! Kind of messes up your joke,but I'am sure you being a comedic writer can fix that. Otherwise keep up the good work,can't wait for the next side-splitting post.
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          • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
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            Yeah, and those were her "core principles" she had written on her hand! LOL!
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        • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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          No she wasn't speaking "extemporaneously." She was reading from the typewritten speech on the podium. You just admitted that Palin has the intellect of a second grader.

          If you want to see extemporaneous, give the videos of Obama wiping the floor with the GOP congressmen last week. That's the real reason why Cornyn said that the Senate would not do the same thing.

          The three words weren't for her speech. She had that all written out in front of her on the podium and read the majority of it verbatim, like she usually does from teleprompters. The three words were her responses to a question regarding her beliefs. The questions had been pre-screened and she knew what questions were going to be posed. She had to write a cheat sheet for her beliefs ON HER HAND. That's what a teeny-bopper in junior high school does.

          Personally, I think you are being intentionally obtuse just for the hell of it. Have fun.
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        • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 9:10 pm ET)
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          Still ROFLMAO!!!

          Stop it, man. You're killing me!!!
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      • Author by whatIthink (February 08, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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        Those words on her hand are her CORE VALUES!!!!!! I know what my core values are, I certainly don't need to write them on my hand. It's like asking a mathetician what 2+2 is, then excusing him for having to look at the crib sheet on his hand for the answer.

        Besides, I see not one of you Palin apologists have even come near to addressing the fact that Obama spanked the GOP without a teleprompter or notes.

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        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 08, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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          He did nothing of the sort. Paul Ryan in particular put him in a box from which he could not escape. He told Tom Price that they shouldn't debate a specific issue there and they could do it later. He cried "Uncle". He didn't know his facts so he needed to get answers before trying to debate them with Price.

          Mike Pence also schooled him. The GOP absolutely got the better of him.
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          • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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            What are the cons smoking these days. It must be some pretty good stuff.
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          • Author by whatIthink (February 08, 2010 5:01 pm ET)
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            Riiiiiggghhhhhtttt, and that's why Republican aides were saying what a big mistake it was to allow cameras in. Because we ALL know how much conservatives to air things that make them look good. And conservatives were looking so good that Fox had to cut away, right?
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            • Author by congero6189599 (February 08, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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              But,but...he mispronounced a word and after long hours and 16 months on a campaign he said 57 states...OMG is that all you got? After the last 8 yrs. of OBGYN's not being able to practice their love on their patients, and people not being able to put food on their families,a president that mangeled a speech even with a teleprompter you should feel ashamed in attempting to compare the two.

              Really you cons should try to be more consistent,either the president can give a good speech and nothing else or he's stupid and can't talk straight . You cons need to learn to walk,what your arguments amount to is more akin to hopping. You go from point to point ,no matter if they contradict each other or fail to logically connect,you just hop from one to the other. Walking would be like puting one foot(point) infront of the other balancing(logically connecting them)in a logical progression. The problem though with you cons(that post here)is that you would have to make sensible arguments not regurgitate soundbites,like the President said 57 states. Drop the Beavis and Butthead thing.
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          • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:20 pm ET)
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            LOL!!! No wonder Bobby Jindal is your hero.

            You are really stupid and blind. Keep telling yourself what you want to hear.
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          • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 9:20 am ET)
               
            If victory is awarded on the basis of who says stuff that you most agree with, then the REPOs scored a clear victory in the eyes of their partisans. More objective observers say that President Obama owned the room.

            When you factor in that GOPpers had days to prepare with message guru Luntz, his mastery was all the more impressive.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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        Let's do a fair comparison.

        Which takes more intellect?

        Reading crib notes from one's hand, notes that describe what supposedly are some of your core values and beliefs, in a friendly, scripted Q&A session?

        Or

        Shooting down multiple false talking points from your political opponents in a massively successful way without any notes at all?
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      • Author by Johaely (February 08, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
           
        Depends. Sarah read the talking points she says everytime she opens her mouth and apparently, she doesn't understand the concept of subtlety.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (February 08, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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      Ode to Todd

      Obama’s gonna kill us
      How do I know?
      'Cause my Todd he told me so
      He's my source of policy
      He's all I need - don't ya see?

      Obama hearts terrorists
      How do I know?
      'Cause my Todd he told me so
      My ear bud died - damn battery!
      Thank Todd! - my palm was his Plan B

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      • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 9:19 pm ET)
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        OMG, am I enjoying this thread!

        You've got to to put those words to music, drafted.
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    • Author by Nemmino (February 08, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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      Palin was awesome on Saturday. I tend to stay in the middle and not choose sides. I believe in what people say, not who they are. If I like someone's policies, that's what I care about, it doesn't matter if they're righties or lefties.
      However, I do not feel that Palin's cheat notes are something to dwell on. At first, I was in shock because of what she had written on her hand, but I think that in the bigger picture, do you know how frightening it is to stand up there in front of all of those people. What if she blanked for a minute? It was back up and she's being scrutinized now for playing it safe. I do think that her speech was not as meaty as I would have liked it to be, but she did for that short amount of time lift the spirits of those in the room, so who cares what anyone else thinks, the people there loved her!
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      • Author by AB-001 (February 08, 2010 4:23 pm ET)
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        If she's afraid of blanking in front of speaking in front of a crowd of supporters, then she ain't fit for being leader of the free world. That's a job that demands you think on your feet, and make hard choices in a short time span. And you can't guarantee you'll have all the notes scribbled on your hand when you need 'em during a world crisis
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      • Author by whatIthink (February 08, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
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        She's a professional politician and speechmaker. She makes her money from "stand(ing) up there in front of all of those people." She was paid $100,000 for this. The interview was rehearsed before hand. She knew what the questions were going to be. The questions were for answers she has given countless times. SHE SAID THE SAME FRIGGING THINGS IN HER SPEECH RIGHT BEFORE THE FRIGGING INTERVIEW!!!! How much "safer" could it have been made for her?
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      • Author by dbtexas (February 08, 2010 4:33 pm ET)
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        Awesome!? Don't get out too much, huh? Her policies? You mean the simplistic drivel spewed by one clueless about the complexities of the world we live in? By the one that couldn't complete a full elected term as governor? Geeez! Do you people think at all?
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      • Author by blueline99 (February 08, 2010 4:51 pm ET)
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        She's an employee of Fox News... if she has stage fright or camera fright, then she needs to look at a new career.
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      • Author by mescal (February 08, 2010 9:21 pm ET)
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        What if she blanked for a minute? You could time Simple Sarah's blankings with a calender!
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 11:02 am ET)
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          I wonder if she can watch a football game while eating a pretzel without passing out?
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 9:25 am ET)
           
        If you think that Palin was awesome on Saturday it tends to undermine your claim that you "tend to stay in the middle and not choose sides."

        This is the response of a syncophantic true believer.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (February 09, 2010 10:59 am ET)
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        Your post reveals why Sarah Palin should never be in the White House and this is coming form a fan.

        You believe in what someone says but not who they are or what they do? So you'll vote for someone who "says" they'll cut spending but ignore the fact they do the opposite. No wonder people vote for Republicans.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 10, 2010 10:48 am ET)
           
        I believe in what people say, not who they are. - Nemmino

        Huh? Who they are? What does that mean and why does it matter?

        And, you pretend to have watched her speech and yet you state the crib notes on her hand were for the speech. If you had actually watched any of it you would know that she had a written speech in front of her at the podium. Actually watch the speech. See the papers in front of her? That is the speech she is reading. The crib notes were for the informal Q&A session afterwards. She wanted to appear as if she did not need notes for it. Probably because Obama had just done a Q&A session with the Republicans and wiped the floor with them. But, you can actually see her reading her hand to refresh her memory for her stock answers like "Energy" and "Budget or Tax Cuts". Try to keep up.

        "she did for that short amount of time lift the spirits of those in the room, so who cares what anyone else thinks, the people there loved her!" - Nemmino

        So what? That crowd loved Tancredo too. That does not mean we should reinstate the poll tax or literacy tests at the polls. Or do you think it does? I mean the people loved it, right?
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    • Author by faithfuldem (February 08, 2010 4:00 pm ET)
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      so this is where we are now, if u use a telepromter to give a speech on policy thats wrong? but if u write down talking points on ur hand thats folksy? gimme a break, this notion that folksy can run a country is moronic at best. come on people we need smart people to lead this country out of this depression, because this is the depression of our generation. this is serious business and we need cooperation on both sides to get through this, not partison hacks trying to divide us.
      p.s the market has been going down ever since the electin of Scott Brown, GO FIGURE.
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:21 pm ET)
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        And, if you read your speech from typewritten pages on the podium in front of you, that somehow makes it better than having the same speech on a teleprompter [which is how she usually does her speeches.]
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    • Author by scanlontodd9871 (February 08, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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      Damn right it was on purpose. She is to dumb to write it on a card. If she would have done that instead I really don't think she would have looked that foolish. What a dimwitted "retard".
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    • Author by MrPlow (February 08, 2010 4:36 pm ET)
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      I like imagining the outrage that would have followed if Obama had something written on his hand during his Q&A with the GOP. Think they would have written it off as "folksy" or whatever?

      It's ridiculous the lengths the right goes through to justify her behavior. First, during the campaign, they criticized Obama's lack of experience, then they nominate someone with even LESS experience, and say "Uhhh, but she has EXECUTIVE experience." Then they criticize his use of teleprompters, Palin gets caught with notes on her hand, and they say "Yeah, but it's not feeding her every line."

      I wish they would just admit "You know, she's just not that savvy. Let's move on to someone a little more polished." Then they'd never again have to contort themselves into a pretzel defending her.
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    • Author by everettbme (February 08, 2010 4:39 pm ET)
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      CARLSON: Like I say, I think it was on purpose. But anyway, we may never know.


      What a silly statement. Of course will find out the truth. Sarah Plainy Simple will come out and say that Carlson was right, she did it all on purpose to make Obama look stupid.
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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (February 08, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
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      My students were amazed that I never used notes or had to look at a pad when I gave lectures in Art History. First of all, I had spent the night before, sometimes MOST of the night, writing and studying the subjects I wanted to cover. Secondly, and certainly MORE important, I was INTERESTED in my field of expertise. More importantly, I RESPECTED my students. How could they respect ME if I could not put two sentences together without looking at a piece of paper and not at them? Most good teachers work this way. The key was I was INVOLVED in my profession. 'Nuff said!
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    • Author by updoc101 (February 08, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
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      I just don’t get it. This woman is so transparently phony that I am amazed that she is given any credibility whatsoever. She is a fake. She is a twit. She could not roll a smooth rock down a steep hill. And I can state with a certain degree of confidence that she will never, ever hold high political office and that she will be the eventual cause of her own undoing. This is a media whore of biblical proportions whose persona may resonate with the trailer park crowd but who will lose her feathers in the big wind of real politics. Can you imagine any other political figure being questioned on a real news show (not Fox) reading off of their palm and not being roasted at the stake of public ridicule? I find her style offensive, her voice like veritable fingernails on a chalk board and her presentation condescending and juvenile. She is the pet rock of this decade.
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      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 08, 2010 11:58 pm ET)
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        She will be one of our greatest Presidents ever - possibly better than Reagan. She has the intelligence, wisdom (even more important than IQ),vision and leadership to restore this nation. She has the right ideas and the right agenda. She is on the correct side of each and evey issue -- she does not deviate from conservative orthodoxy on any issue. She will never change.

        I doubt many of the folks here are all that familiar with the best selling Book of all time. Read the Book of Esther and tell me that you don't see obvious parallels between Queen Esther and Sarah Palin. They are both wise and righteous leaders.
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        • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 09, 2010 9:36 am ET)
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          Why do you assume that liberals are unfamiliar with the Bible? And why don't you just say "Bible" instead of cloaking it in a euphenism? This is a very elitist assumption you make.

          As I recall, Esther was the Jewish wife of the King of Persia who dissuaded him from enacting a policy that would have been genocidal to her people. I fail to see the parallels to the Quitter from Wasilla. Can you elaborate?

          thanks
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        • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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          You are certifiably C-R-A-Z-Y ! Yikes!
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        • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (February 09, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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          BJF- If The National Lampoon was still around, you'd be writing for it! VERY funny stuff indeed.

          "Possibly better than Reagan." Oh, my sides!
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        • Author by rusty hinges (February 10, 2010 11:05 am ET)
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          A rock would be a better president than St Ronnie Raygun.
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    • Author by eg23 (February 08, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
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      I usually agree with the criticisms on MMFA, and i usually enjoy the debate that follows. But, in the context of ALL of the other major glaring issues worth addressing... doesn't criticizing Sarah Palin for her hand-notes seem kind of petty and silly? I mean, criticize her ideas all day long, that's what we need more than ever, but... this just comes across as an unnecessary waste of energy. As responsible citizens we have so much of substance that need our attention, why are we all yapping about this? Or am i way off base?
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      • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (February 08, 2010 5:53 pm ET)
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        doesn't criticizing Sarah Palin for her hand-notes seem kind of petty and silly?
        That's not what MMFA did.
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      • Author by bintx (February 08, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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        The notes on her hand WERE her "ideas." The basis of much of her speech was on Obama being an empty suit with charisma who just read from a teleprompter. I think, given that context, you are way off base.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 08, 2010 6:58 pm ET)
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        Get a Clue.

        When you start out by saying "I usually agree with the criticisms on MMFA...", it loses you credibility, and doesn't help your point at all.

        And try to improve your reading comprehension. This isn't about what she did at all.

        It's about how it's inappropriate for any media to create excuses for a politician!

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    • Author by ProgLib (February 08, 2010 8:17 pm ET)
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      Wouldn't you know it? As usual, the Palin-sympathizers start coming out of the wood works first thing Monday morning.
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    • Author by papa bear3 (February 08, 2010 8:27 pm ET)
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      YOU IDIOTS!!!!!
      It is the Stigmata, she is receive her talking points from . . .
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    • Author by egb (February 09, 2010 12:24 am ET)
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      One of the very best things about Sarah Palin is she angers mmfa followers (and alternet, and dailykos and huffington post also) believers to the bone. That alone is worth contributing to SarahPac. Each time someone at mmfa writes about Sarah Palin the article gets as many or more comments as any other article.

      Just to compare Sarah and Barack, one would find that Sarah comes out ahead. More experience in government; able to speak without being fully scripted; she believes in life for all; she doesn't want the government to take over our lives; she can speak to and understand real people; she can listen to the American public; and she is NOT a narcissist. The Republicans had the wrong person run against Obama.

      Right now she's raising scads of dollars for various conservative candidates for the fall elections. That, combined with the observation that the American public seems also to be turning against the Obama Socialist vision of America's future, bodes well for Sarah Palin and America. Most of the mmfa folks here will have a lot to be talking about during the next 9 months and probably well beyond.
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      • Author by scanlontodd9871 (February 09, 2010 8:59 am ET)
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        "Right now she's raising scads of dollars for various conservative candidates for the fall elections." Why should she be raising money for conservatives? I thought she was a Teabagger?
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      • Author by Johaely (February 09, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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        Just to compare Sarah and Barack, one would find that Sarah comes out ahead. More experience in government; able to speak without being fully scripted; she believes in life for all; she doesn't want the government to take over our lives; she can speak to and understand real people; she can listen to the American public; and she is NOT a narcissist. The Republicans had the wrong person run against Obama.


        Wow, there are so many things wrong with that statement.
        More expirience in Gov.: Palin was the mayor of a small town (even though its a position of authority, a mayor's job is no different form the dreaded Comunity organizer.) She also resigned from governorship amids a bunch of scandals.
        Able to speak without a scrypt: Funny you ignore the Republican-Obama convention, where unscrypted answered coherently all the republican questions. And how she needed to write notes in her hand her cliched "Values".
        Life for all: Chances are that she believes in death penalty, being a "pro-lifer" and all.
        Government to take over our lives: That's just the same talking point consevatives love to make. Learn new words will you?
        She can speak and understand real people: So people in cities and blue states are not real? Why is she suddenly Miss humble with such an elitist belief.
        NOT a narcisist: Nah, she is just an elitist self-important woman who only believe that she and people like her should be the only ones whose voices are heard. TOTALLY NOT NARCISSIST.
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    • Author by everettbme (February 09, 2010 1:00 am ET)
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      I think the right wing media is doing exactly what they wanted to do. They are getting everyone looking at and paying attention to a nothing thing about crib notes, and getting people's attention off the fact that Sarah Palin not only called for a revolution, but that she also suggested President Obama declare war on Iran. We are already fighting 2 wars, and now Sarah wants us in another.
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      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (February 09, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        Not quite. She did not suggest that Obama SHOULD declare war on Iran. She suggested that he might "wag the dog" and start a war with Iran in a cynical attempt to increase his political standing by creating a rally around the flag dynamic. Sarah is not the only person who thinks Obama is capable of this.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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          You Palinistas are pathetic in your defence of her every gaff. I know you dittobots can actually read her confused mind and understand her mangeled run-on sentences , but in the real world they have transcripts and we can think for oursleves.

          WALLACE: How hard do you think President Obama would be to defeat in 2012?

          PALIN: It depends on a few things, say he played — I got this from Buchanan — say he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decide to really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel–which I would like him to do. That changes the dynamics of what we can assume will happen between now and three years. Because I think if the election were today, Obama would not be elected.

          WALLACE: You’re not suggesting that Obama would cynically play the war card?

          PALIN: I’m not suggesting that, I’m saying if he did, things would dramatically change if he decided to toughen up and do all that he can to secure our nation and secure our allies. I think people would shift their thinking a bit.

          Now that is some confusing double-speak I'am not suggesting but if he did.
          If he did what?
          SP: toughen up and do all that he can to secure our nation and secure our allies. I think people would shift a little bit.

          Lets see what is the thing that would secure our nation and secure our allies?
          SP:Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decide to really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel–which I would like him to do.

          What a confused unskillful contradictory rant.
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      • Author by jimhum (February 09, 2010 9:26 pm ET)
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        Please tell me, what and who are the right-wing media? The Main Stream Media consists of Scribblers and Babblers.

        After you name FOX news, who else is there?

        Radio talk hosts are not the media.

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        • Author by congero6189599 (February 09, 2010 10:32 pm ET)
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          Worldnetdaily,American Spectator,washington times,conservative editorialist on various papers,and magazines and TV shows on CNN,MSNBC,New York Post,Wall St. Journal,Drudge Report,Politico, other conservative publishers and think tanks and publications,and I don't accept your rejection of right wing radio as not being part of the media. They most certainly are as they are a means of disseminating right-wing ideology and talking points. Rush does it on his show dialy and we've seen the deference given to him by those on the right. Also there is the magazine that W.Buckley started,the name escapes now, thats off the top of my head,if you stopped pretending I'am sure you could think of a few also too.
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        • Author by ProgLib (February 10, 2010 5:37 am ET)
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          Radio talk hosts are not the media.


          Then what are they? Just one of the "folks"? What a stupid comment to make.
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    • Author by kyle b.c. (February 09, 2010 1:43 am ET)
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      these people on the right are fools. they weren't notes for her speech, they were notes for the Q&A afterwards. which would seem to suggest that she was fed at least some of the questions before- hand. this is ridiculous. she can't memorize three words for some Q&A? come on now. and people on the right are also fools for mocking Obama for using a teleprompter. all politicians use one, they need to get over it.
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    • Author by a2zblue (February 09, 2010 7:34 am ET)
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      Now, if the goppies will just be dumb enuf to nominate her in 2012 . . .

      I wonder how long it's going to take her before she gets tired of being used -- and using them? She's in it for power, and so are they.

      Should really be nasty-ugly. Can't wait!
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    • Author by proudObamasupporter (February 09, 2010 10:15 am ET)
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      Does anyone really think these three idiots believe the b.s. that comes out of their mouths?
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